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ArtificerArmour
23-12-2008, 09:56
Hey all again ;)

Another question. I remember the Tallarn Desert Raider article mentioning Tallarn was a lush planet before the Iron Warriors virus bombed it. When did this event happen? Before or after the siege of Terra?

Sikkukkut
23-12-2008, 10:42
Before, I think, since the accounts I've read say that once Tallarn was bombed to dust it was the scene of some massive armoured battles - that implies it was during the Heresy rather than after Horus' defeat.

Lord Damocles
23-12-2008, 10:45
It probably depends on which source you look at...

'Codex: Titanicus' has the titan battles on Tallarn taking place after the siege of Terra (during The Scourging).

However... a bit of fluff about Johnson and Russ which I was perusing a couple of days ago in an old White Dwarf mentioned the battle of Tallarn before the assault on Earth.


There you go. GW + dates = cluster****

Personally I'd go with the virus bombing taking place prior to the siege of Terra, the tank battles raging at the same time as the seige, and the titan wars continuing after the siege had been lifted, which kind of covers all bases.

Sikkukkut
23-12-2008, 12:10
Personally I'd go with the virus bombing taking place prior to the siege of Terra, the tank battles raging at the same time as the seige, and the titan wars continuing after the siege had been lifted, which kind of covers all bases.

Sounds good to me. If Tallarn (or anywhere else) is strategically valuable then it makes sense there'd be more than just one fight for it.

InquisitorNiels
23-12-2008, 19:25
Wasn't there a artifact or a warp gate underground in Tallarn? I seem to remember a short story about it, maybe I was wrong. That is why the Iron Warriors attacked the planet, but never got to it, then latter it was found and all sorts of bad things happened.

Could someone clear this up for me, it has been a while but I seem to remember this as taking place on Tallarn.

Paddy Mcfee
23-12-2008, 19:36
It was some kind of eldar warp portal. The Tallarns were digging about and found a huge stone circle pit thing and started poking about in it. They get attacked by Eldar who are trying to stop them accidentally unleashing large amounts of Demon related doo doo. The Tallarns accidentally unleash large amounts of Demon related doo doo. The Eldar and Tallarns team up and take 'em down. I think it was in a WD article about famous guard regiments. Hope that helps!

(anyone feel free to correct any errors I've made but I think thats the gist of it)

Lord Cook
23-12-2008, 22:43
It was some kind of eldar warp portal.

Judging from the descriptions of the inscriptions on the portal, it was almost certainly either a pre-Fall Eldar artifact, or Slaanesh-aligned Chaos. In either case the Eldar attacked because the humans were on the verge of digging it up. However the Eldar attack failed to prevent humanity from reaching it, and a horde of daemons poured out of the portal and were only defeated after the Eldar and humans joined forces.

I seem to remember Tallarn was virus bombed on the orders of Horus himself, which would clearly put it before the Siege of Terra. Not sure about that one though.

Lord of ???
24-12-2008, 05:14
The world of Tallarn was once a fertile planet bathed in the gentle orange light of its twin suns. Oceans, plains and lush jungles covered its surface, and its people prospered. The world was a virtual paradise. All of this ended during the Horus Heresy.
CHAOS ATTACK!
In a devastating surprise attack, the Iron Warriors Chaos Space Marines struck the planet. Thousands of virus bombs rained down on Tallarn and the people ran to their enviro-shelters, deep beneath the surface. As they hid, safe from the devastating bio-infestation, the deadly coils of DNA mutated as they were programmed to do. Animals, plants, even insects died as the virus did its work, destroying the planet's ecosystem and leaving an empty shell devoid of life.
After seven weeks of isolation the virus had run its course and the remaining people of Tallarn emerged upon the surface. They found a world covered with the acrid slime of plants and corpses not yet decayed - for the world was completely sterile, without even bacteria to aid the decomposition of its dead. The stench was strong, and more than one person died from it.
The Iron Warriors sent their task-force to repossess the world for the Dark Gods of Chaos. From underground bunkers the Tallarn forces emerged to do battle with the invaders. Soon, reinforcements from both sides arrived, rival space fleets bringing vast armies to fight over the worthless remnants of the dead planet.
The Battle of Tallarn raged for many months and was the largest armoured conflict of the Horus Heresy. Outbreaks of viral infection from rogue DNA residue made it almost impossible for infantry to operate outside their protective shelters. The battle was finally decided by armies of tanks. When the fighting ended the empty, putrid wastes of Tallarn were littered with the wreckage of more than a million shattered vehicles.
A HOLLOW VICTORY
Chaos was driven from Tallarn at great cost, yet for all the millions that died there seemed little gained from the fight. The planet was destroyed and rendered useless for large scale habitation, industry or agriculture. The armies of the Imperium might well have given up Tallarn had their commanders realized the extent of the devastation, but once the armies were in motion there was no going back.
At the time the Chaos attack made little sense. It seemed insane that even the fickle Gods of Chaos should expend such energy fighting over a devastated world of no particular strategic significance. But in the aftermath of the Horus Heresy there were few left to ponder such questions. Amongst the evils of the time it was just another demonstration of the random destruction of Chaos.
TALLARN SURVIVES
Within a thousand years of the Horus Heresy Tallarn evolved into a very different world from the prosperous planet of former times. Deserts of sulphurous sand stretched from pole to pole and all water disappeared except for a thin residue in the atmosphere. No vegetation remained on the surface exposed to the blistering, wind-blown sands. All that grew was the carefully husbanded crops of the Tallarn themselves, sheltered in their protective horticultural domes.
The surviving Tallarn now lived in domed towns or in natural caverns hollowed out in the planet's rock. Fierce winds drove the Tallarn into their shelters, corrosive sulphur storms made all travel risky, and eventually a system of tunnels was built to facilitate travel beneath the surface.
Above their settlements the Tallarn built vapour traps to catch water from the thin atmosphere. These tall towers still stand above their domes to this day, and all the water they use is caught by these cunning devices and channelled into subterranean holding tanks.

slasher
24-12-2008, 08:22
That sounds a lot like arrakis, ie nothing but desert with windtraps to get the moister out of the air.

Phunting
24-12-2008, 10:04
And of course there's the added continuity mistake that it's already mentioned as a desert planet during one of the early HH books...

Lord Damocles
24-12-2008, 11:50
It was some kind of eldar warp portal.
The Cursus of Alganar.

One of three gateways by which the ancient Eldar could contact their gods.;)

Leftenant Gashrog
24-12-2008, 12:17
And of course there's the added continuity mistake that it's already mentioned as a desert planet during one of the early HH books...

If memory serves there was no mention of Tallarn having been virus bombed in the original fluff - it was just a desert world, it could be they have decided to revert to the older fluff with the novels (much like they chose to revert to the RT era spelling of Isstvan rather than Istvaan)

As for when Tallarn took place.. Space Marine 1st edition mentioned that the Tallarn campaign lasted 3 years, with the capital city alone changing hands several times. So theres no problem with it being both before and after the Siege.

ArtificerArmour
24-12-2008, 12:23
And of course there's the added continuity mistake that it's already mentioned as a desert planet during one of the early HH books...

"It's drier than a Tallarn's sandal" - 40K rascialism for you there :p

decker_cky
24-12-2008, 17:27
Maybe there was another reason for the saying and Horus just had a dark sense of humour which was the real reason he got the Iron Warriors to virus bomb the planet.

TheMartyr451
25-12-2008, 08:25
It was some kind of eldar warp portal. The Tallarns were digging about and found a huge stone circle pit thing and started poking about in it. They get attacked by Eldar who are trying to stop them accidentally unleashing large amounts of Demon related doo doo. The Tallarns accidentally unleash large amounts of Demon related doo doo. The Eldar and Tallarns team up and take 'em down. I think it was in a WD article about famous guard regiments. Hope that helps!

(anyone feel free to correct any errors I've made but I think thats the gist of it)

It's heavily featured in the 2nd Edition Imperial Guard Codex. :p

Lord of ???
25-12-2008, 08:40
what this event

During the construction of an arterial tunnel, Tallarn miners struck an outcrop of hard black rock. They were unable to break through this strange substance which was quite unlike any other they had encountered. After some days they decided to divert their tunnel to go around it. As they did so they discovered something very strange. At first the black wall seemed like a natural formation, but soon they realized they had uncovered a deliberate construction.
The initial excavations revealed a huge wall of strange black rock carved over its entire surface with weird entwined figures. The figures were human sized yet not entirely human, possessing a grace and beauty which rendered their grotesquely inscribed cavorting all the more perverse. Giant earth movers were brought in to dig out the layer of sulphur sand in which the wall was buried, and bit by bit it was slowly and painstakingly exposed to the daylight.
The Tallarn soon discovered the wall was not straight but curved, in fact part of a huge circle. Carefully their most skilled technicians worked to uncover the entire thing, a huge ring-shaped mound almost half a mile across.
THE DANGER AWAKES
It was not until the whole circle was exposed that the disaster happened. With a blast of power the circle screamed and writhed, its inert form turned suddenly to moaning flesh. Where before there had been carvings now there were the creatures themselves, Eldar creatures, yet twisted with an uncanny evil, locked together by some sorcerous bond into a sickening embrace of depraved passion.
Within the circle itself, blackness boiled and stars wheeled - stars that belonged in another part of the galaxy altogether.
THE DARK LIBRARY
In the Dark Library of the Eldar a custodian shivered as he felt an unaccustomed surge of power. Adrift from time and space his mind searched the endless, strands of probabilities and found the thread t6t led to Tallarn. After so long it had been discovered: the Cursus of Alganar, legend of evil from before the Fall, vortex of unimaginable power, one of the three mythical Gateways of the Gods.
His mind shifted into synchronicity with -the Farseers of his race, tracing the paths that linked his mind to the Craftworlds of the Eldar. When that knowledge touched the Farseers the Avatars of Khaine would wake. And Khaine would recognise the work of his ancient destroyer Slaanesh - Bane of the Eldar, Prince of the Chaos Gods.
ELDAR ATTACK
The Eldar struck from the skies without warning or explanation. To the Tallarn it was an unwarranted act of aggression. Little could they imagine that the fate of the entire Eldar race was bound up with their strange discovery. To the Eldar there was no time for explanation or discussion. They couldn't know whether the Tallarn were in league with Chaos or whether the fierce desert people were unwitting pawns in the Dark Gods' game. As far as they were concerned the only option was to attack, to destroy the Cursus if they could before it was too late.
The Tallarn fought back with characteristic ferocity. Years of living upon the burning sulphur deserts had honed them into resilient fighters. To the Eldar the deserts were an unknown quantity. Even the hardy Aspect Warriors died under the heat of the sun, whilst the Eldar Guardians fen to the lightning raids of the human fighters. But the Eldar did not give up. They could not afford to abandon their attack. The survival of the galaxy depended on it.
THE DARK GODS AWAKE
But it was already too late. The gateway that was the Cursus grew in power by the minute. Its screams and wails filled the desert as the dark light brightened and fluxed within its core. Lights and stars swirled and clashed, fountains of spinning incandescence spat into the night sky. The laughter of gods rebounded across the sulphur dunes and Eldar and humans alike shuddered in terror.
From the Cursus poured the minions of Chaos. There were things indescribable to men. Things that awakened primal terrors in Eldar hearts - horrors of slime and flame that cackled and bounded into battle, transparent bodies of pure energy dividing and reuniting in a cascade of colours, vile fleshy things that pulsed with inner power and sucked at the air with poisonous lips. Long-legged abominations carried slender and elegant creatures upon their backs, beautiful and yet sickening to look upon. It was as if all the 4aemons of hell had fallen upon Tallarn.
THE BATTLE FOR THE CURSUS
The human commander called a truce and hurried to the Eldar lines where the alien Seers sat waiting. Knowledge had finally opened their eyes. The runestones lay cast upon the desert floor. Hope in union was predicted. Division would lead to damnation, darkness and death. With their fates so clearly predicted, the Eldar and Tallarn joined forces.
The two races fell back before the Chaos onslaught. Many were caught and destroyed in the early confusion, but the Chaos advance was slowed by the merciless hit and run tactics of the desert raiders. Humans led Eldar jet-bike riders into the attack, and soon the Tallarn and Eldar were able to regroup.
As the daemon hordes advanced beyond the Cursus their power waned, as if they were dependent upon its proximity for their power. And so it was, for the tendrils of Chaos though long are very tenuous, and only blood-letting and victory can sustain the link between the Dark Gods and their minions.
CHAOS DEFEATED
With skill and cunning the Tallarn drew out the Chaos battle lines. Choosing their targets carefully the Tallarn launched one attack after another, always retreating before the Chaos hordes could turn to meet their fire. It was a tactic calculated to drain the power of the horde, and it worked better than even the wily sons of the sulphur desert could have hoped.
The Eldar Seers saw the runes change, saw the opportunity develop. The daemons were fading fast, their glittering bodies growing ever more transparent, their cries ever weaker Now was the time to hit them hard.
With a furious charge the Eldar and Tallarn threw their remaining strength against the gibbering horde. It was a last effort that would result in absolute victory or utter defeat. The Chaos hordes shuddered and the bodies of the daemons seemed to fade and dull. The crackle of energy died and the spark of life vaporised into the oily air.
Many lay dead, human and Eldar, gored by monstrous claws, crushed by the sensual caress of a poisoned tongue, or torn apart by razor sharp teeth. Many Eldar waystones were collected from the field, and many Tallarn taken back to their domes to surrender the water from their bodies to the hydrotanks. But it was victory nonetheless.
THE CURSUS
Once the Eldar had departed in peace, and the people of both races had exchanged their promises of friendship, the Tallarn returned to the Cursus. They found the black stone cold and lifeless once more, just as it was when they had first uncovered it. However, they knew now that the stone was not dead but merely sleeping, awaiting its time again, waiting for the call of its evil masters.
The Tallarn buried the Cursus beneath the sulphur sands once more and placed within its circle the mysterious devices that the Eldar had given them for that purpose. Then they sealed the surface with plascrete and turned their backs upon it.

Paddy Mcfee
25-12-2008, 19:18
Yeah, that event. :)