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Lord Zso Sahaal
15-01-2009, 21:09
++++I know that I have miss labled my Log as I have decided to do Heresy era Marines now. Sorry for any confusion.
Allow me to explain my poll quickly, by Traitor Marines being killed by mine, I mean something like a dead traitor on the base of my Ultramarines or say for example one of my Captains posed as if slaying a traitor.+++++

Well what is there to say? The sheer level of awesomeness from the Pre-Heresy logs combined with the Heresy novels and art books has driven me to make a new army, Pre-Heresy Ultramarines. My reasoning is thus, when I started out my first army was Ultramarines (beginers mistake I know), the above stated reasons and the fact that whilst my mind was turning cogs over the PH idea I remembered I had a few marines in PH gear (armour through the ages and some Rogue Trader items) so bang the idea was brought into reality. Currently this wil only become a skirmish force that will be constructed alongside my Ad Mech. And my idea of an army list follows something like this.


HQ
1 Company Commander
5 Man Command Squad

Elites
5 Man Squad of Terminators

Troops
2 x 10 man Tactical Squads

Fast Attack
2 Jet-Bikes
5 Man Assault Squad

Heavy Support
1 Legion Fellblade (the one Baneblade I havnt painted yet)
1 Mk 2 FW Pre-Heresy Land Raider (this is down as a maybe)

Optional Support
1 Warhound Titan
1 Knight Titan

Well there we have it, another piece of madness from myself, I am as I write this in the process of painting the first few minatures and converting them, however I have only done the very minimum of a basecoat of yet so I will ad some pictures tomorrow with any luck.

Sahaal

G.Hawke
15-01-2009, 21:14
it sounds great Zso... except one small point.

ULTRA-SMEGGING-MARINES?

seriously? why not pick a good legion... why not the night lords? the raven guard? hell even the emperors children of guillimans lapdogs...

either way i'll be watching, just a question if i boo, or i cheer your legion choice...

Hawke

Lord Zso Sahaal
18-01-2009, 01:21
Evening people, time for that update. I have now completed three out of the 10 in the tactical squad, I have completed a Tech Marine and started another. Both Techies are Rogue Trader, one is carrying a Power Axe, the other was a Techie biker with a spanner. I have converted him to now have some standing legs, and has now got a boltgun. The jetbike will have a new rider made and I also decided to scav the other jetbike from my ad mech force along with a couple of marines for spares and the older armour suits. Work has begun on the Fellblade, however it is only currently very.... blue, once some detail work has begun I will post some pictures for you all.
I have also just made an order to Forge World for the Red Scorpian Veteran Assualy Marines. Thrice purpose, the helmets (obviously), the chest armour is along the lines of the older varients and also the assual squad itself. Thus serving many purposes in one I thought it was great, but its easy to please me when theres Warhammer envolved :D, so without further delay, the minatures so far.....

Tactical Squad (In need of reinforcements), the marine on the right was my quick attempt to create a crusade feel helmet. Didnt go too well but I used it anyway as although its not great I think along with others it will be fine.
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9265/dsc00273ws2.jpg

Completed Tech-Marine, stolen from the Mechanicus army
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9664/dsc00274ug9.jpg

WIP Tech-Marine
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/2759/dsc00276qf9.jpg


it sounds great Zso... except one small point.

ULTRA-SMEGGING-MARINES?

seriously? why not pick a good legion... why not the night lords? the raven guard? hell even the emperors children of guillimans lapdogs...

either way i'll be watching, just a question if i boo, or i cheer your legion choice...

Thanks Hawke, I was expecting this sort of comment lol. As I said in the starting post, its the Chapter (should be called legion for this log) I started out on and to be honest, although all beginers start on them I love the look of them. Anyways I look forward to more comments from you....

More pictures to come as soon as the models are ready. C&C welcome.

Sahaal

Lord Zso Sahaal
19-01-2009, 00:02
Quick update for today, just some pics.

Tactical Squad so far
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9274/dsc00282vn1.jpg

Tech-Marines (I would like to get some power limbs for the back packs)
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3525/dsc00284oq6.jpg

Group Shot
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/337/dsc00286kc4.jpg

With any luck I should have started the Fellblade in earnest tomorrow, so possibilty of images of that tomorrow!

Sahaal

G.Hawke
19-01-2009, 00:23
it is with Extreme begrudgery I'll say this. they look... Acceptable.

Where it not for the legion you've chosen, the ever lackluster ultra-smurfs, i'd say they were exceedingly good

hawke

Lord Zso Sahaal
20-01-2009, 19:21
Just complete the Jek Biker, sorta. The only thing left to do is tidy up one of the eyes which im not happy about and to put the legion iconography on the shoulder guard, but sadly I cant find any more transfers so I will have to order some.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6475/dsc00287vx9.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9587/dsc00292kz1.jpg

Also I was looking around for models to convert to use as a Commander for the Legion detatchment and found what I think is the perfect model that requires no conversion, I had forgoten GW had released them its one of the masters of the chapter models; the master of the arsenal model

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1240989_99060101358_masterofthearsenalmain_445x31 9.jpg

What do you think? Work well? Seeing as he is in Mk.4 armour I think it will work very well as head of the army. Well ive run out of regal blue paint and other supplies so work will slow down for now until my re supply shipment gets here.

Sahaal

Magos Explorator
20-01-2009, 22:30
Nice models! For reference, the guy above is not Mark IV but I think Mark III.

LegendFX
21-01-2009, 08:56
Yup, thats Mark III.

Nice conversions, very tight. I'm going to keep my eyes on this one.

Apologist
21-01-2009, 09:56
Hurrah another Pre-Heresy Ultramarines player. Nice one!

Looking nice, too I see you've gone for the gold banding, which I think's a good choice. Looking forward to the updates.

Lord Zso Sahaal
23-01-2009, 23:18
Evening people, some more pictures to show progress. Although nearly done, the Fellblade below needs some slight fixes and weathering, apart from that its done. Also I have got some images of more marines for you all :) Hope you enjoy.

Fellblade
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1435/dsc00294xe0.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8216/dsc00295wv2.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1804/dsc00296ss6.jpg


More pictures below, would have done four on this one but for some reason its says ive got five when I input four onto this post......

Lord Zso Sahaal
23-01-2009, 23:26
Completed Jet-Bike
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7845/dsc00298by1.jpg

Latest Finished Marine, note the missing magazine from the Bolter, my attempt to add some character to the model by making it look like he was caught out in the middle of re-loading so has grabbed his side-arm
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/750/dsc00299zg9.jpg

Group Photo
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8189/dsc00300rp8.jpg

Damn it, happened again four images and it says its five. Another post in a sec then....

Lord Zso Sahaal
23-01-2009, 23:26
Three WIP Marines, on the left is my attempt at making a MK. 3 Iron Armour suit without the 'Crusade' style helmet.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6752/dsc00302cf3.jpg

Hopefully these are up to scratch (minus the touch ups I need to do), keep the comments flowing please. Not holding out hope but maybe, just maybe my Forge World stuff will arive tomorrow.... Their delivery isnt great sadly :(

Sahaal

Lord Zso Sahaal
26-01-2009, 22:25
Another brief update for you all again. Ive completed three more marines one is my attempt at a Mk3 and one is an attempt at a Mk.5 heresy armour(not pre-heresy I know, but hey ho), infact im changing this log to
Heresy era Ultramarines
the other is a generic mix of armours. I also completed the Fellblade (minus transfers) although when I uploaded the picture of it to imageshack I noticed that I missied some bits with the weathering, its obvious on the image so I will go back and work on it but I shall upload onto here anyways.

Three Marines
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/977/dsc00310ut5.jpg

Fellblade
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4451/dsc00307td6.jpg

Group Photo
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3145/dsc00303od9.jpg

All that remains to go into squad one now are one bolter marine and a rocket launcher marine. Hopefully also I should be able to start on the Assualt Squad soon.

Sahaal

Bleys
26-01-2009, 22:46
These look really nice!
I got to tell you though, I think most of the old (really old) SM models GW made look like crap (characterfull though!). I'm not critisising your work, merely GW's early sculpters... Except the squad sergeant, the model got an air of meaning business ^^. Overall I much more prefer your three latest guys, they look very pre-h.

O and I love the jetbike! Somehow it get's me thinking of a fully armed and armoured knight, riding a Shetland pony... great stuff :)
EDIT: go with Word Beares! First amongst traitors :D

G.Hawke
26-01-2009, 22:55
go with the EC! they suck the most, and some smurfs killing EC's seems fair for what fulgrim does to G-man

love the BB

hawke

Noserenda
27-01-2009, 00:05
Liking the Infantry, but the Jetbike looks way too small for its rider, id be inclined to try and source an older model to ride it just so its scale is consistent.

The Fellblade is nice, but really needs to be "marined", possibly visible crew but the Transfers may well sort that out.

Bad guy wise, stick on a Word Bearer. Its not like the Ultras actually killed any other Traitors :p

Good start tho dude! Always keen to see more Heresy Stuff!

Zothos
27-01-2009, 00:10
Night Lords and more Night Lords....stay true to your name.

Noserenda is correct, the old beaky marines would look better on the bikes due to scale. The conversion is great..the dimensions just look kinda wonky through no fault of yours.

Wolfie159
27-01-2009, 16:39
plus to add on zothos's comment on the "beaky" marines (lol) think of the aero-dynamics of the helmit!

Lord Zso Sahaal
01-02-2009, 21:33
plus to add on zothos's comment on the "beaky" marines (lol) think of the aero-dynamics of the helmit!

This is for everyone thats mentioned the bike, I do agree on the fact it looks a little small, however I think it looks alright. But I will make the next one with a Beaky for you guys

Short update to show progress despite the fact that its small.

First Assualt Marine
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5879/dsc00312dr9.jpg

I am also working on restoring an old Mk.2 Predator I found, I also found and old Whirlwind but sadly its beond fixing. Hopefully I should have some more images tomorrow of the marines and the tank.

Sahaal

deadpool2345
06-02-2009, 20:09
Good job Zso, they are coming along really nicely!!

thinking that the jetbike looks old school!!

where did you get it from? i wants one...
just a suggestion, if i were you i would add armour plates to the front of the jet bike. to make it look more space marine-y
keep it up
DP

synapse
06-02-2009, 20:13
word bearers for me ;)

and ive always loved that old techmarine model. nice to it revamped

the1stpip
06-02-2009, 21:42
I agree, I started with Ultramarines back in 2nd, and I still have a soft spot for them.

Grats on doing what YOU want, and not following everyone else.

Lord Zso Sahaal
07-02-2009, 20:12
word bearers for me ;)

and ive always loved that old techmarine model. nice to it revamped

I saw it on ebay a few months ago and thought 'its perfect for my Ad Mech' but now its works even better for pre heresy. And yes deffo a very good model


I agree, I started with Ultramarines back in 2nd, and I still have a soft spot for them.

Grats on doing what YOU want, and not following everyone else.

My point exactly, I know that Ultramarines can be boring and they recieve allot of stick but I wanted to go back to how I started out, but with a little twist in it.

Progress then, sadly not much.....

Assualt Squad so far....
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2125/dsc00317qx6.jpg

Group shot of completed marines with Titan
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5885/dsc00319fh7.jpg

And the latest arival from ebay.... a Rogue Trader Marine riding a lizard :eek:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6668/dsc00315rf2.jpg

Just to be awkward and different in the same idea I thought this could finish the fast attack 'biker' squad, two jet bikes and a lizard. Something along the line of the marine lost his bike in a crash or it became damaged so he improvised on the battlefield...?

Keep the comments up they are much appreciated!

Sahaal

Lord Zso Sahaal
12-02-2009, 22:39
Evening all, just to let you all know this hasnt died, ive been a little pre occupied as of late. However when I find my camera tomorrow I will get some pictures up of what I have done. Also as a side note does anybody know what a Stormbird looks like? Size, shape, how many marines it carried ect....
If you can help me it would be great.

Thanks all

Sahaal

Chris_Lancaster
12-02-2009, 23:31
Looking good :)




I am also working on restoring an old Mk.2 Predator I found, I also found and old Whirlwind but sadly its beond fixing. Hopefully I should have some more images tomorrow of the marines and the tank.

Sahaal

What counts as beyond fixing? I thorough wrecked a Rhino for a piece of terrain, four years later I've come back to 40k (and with a better attitude to my models...) and I managed to get it looking remarkably good considering I had to re-build half the hull :eek:

Lord Zso Sahaal
22-02-2009, 21:21
Ok I know that this is a little......late but I finaly got round to photographing the WIP second Tactical Squad. I plan to get this squad finished by the end of next week at the latest because I want to have a game with them at my local store and I cant stand using half painted models. Updates will apear as I complete each model.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9652/dsc00363.jpg

Comments and thoughts please :)

Sahaal

Khornate Fireball (Ork)
08-03-2009, 06:38
I am also working on restoring an old Mk.2 Predator I found, I also found and old Whirlwind but sadly its beond fixing. Hopefully I should have some more images tomorrow of the marines and the tank.

Beyond fixing, eh? I don't suppose it's beyond lootin'? I mean, depending on how much is damaged and in what ways, you could use it for conversion fodder, and even if it's severely broken, you could do something Orky with it... But then, of course I would say that, Big Mek I am.

captainramoz
02-06-2009, 15:53
Mini marines adorable(yes i know they are second ed)
still adorable

schlissi
25-06-2009, 09:28
Good conversion but boring legion choice. also the paint job is not so nice. But keep going on!

Shruikine
31-08-2009, 00:54
Likin' the Fellblade

Lord Zso Sahaal
31-08-2009, 21:01
Oh dear :/ I had forgotten about this log. Sorry guys. Errmmmm I am still alive, the marines are still going and I will post some pics as soon as I get the chance, been really busy with my new job last few weeks. Oh and ive got Krieg on the go too :)

Sahaal