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Commissar Molotov
19-01-2009, 22:17
Just about everything else hobby-related that I do is over in my other thread (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175083), but this is so different that it deserves to be in another thread.

Recently, in no small part due to my friend Barret, I've been considering a 28mm superheroes game. I spent a night hastily writing a radical mish-mash of Inquisitor, Necromunda and Mordheim into something... super.

Realising that my efforts were a little lacking, I've done some looking online and have found a couple of rules-sets that have caught my eye. Rules-sets that'll get bought soon! At the moment I'm looking at the second edition of SuperSystem by Four Color, and I'll gve my review on that as-and-when I receive it.

Until then, I've been biding my time writing fluff. In the past weekend I have assembled a cast of probably thirty characters, a number of which could be villains or heroes. I'll make it clear here that in some instances I've stolen wholesale from other, existing characters by Marvel, DC and others. In part that's because I like this being a little cheesy. it's also because Marvel, DC and others have neatly sewn up the market!

I've decided that in order to lure my friends into this venture of mine, I need to create a couple of decent characters. I've decided on a setting - the New York-esque metropolis of Patriot City. The main characters will be the Paragons, an Avengers-esque group of heroes. At times they might do their own thing, follow their own storylines, but otherwise they'll join together to fight for Truth, Justice and soforth.

My first character is Thunderbolt:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0001.jpg

Obvious conversion thus far. I've taken off nearly all the gems and stones and I've filed the feet to be slightly less pointy.

Thunderbolt is intended to be one of the central characters of my narrative. An Iron Man-esque character, he's a wealthy industrialist fighting crime but also having a good time with the ladies (which'll form a key plot-point that I'll tell you guys about later!) I don't want to spoil his storyline too much, so I'll leave him there for now.

I always thought Geordi LaForge before when I saw that particular scout head. Now I'll always think of Cyclops!

I imagine him in blue and gold, or blue and silver. Blue's likely going to be a key colour through many of the Paragons.

This is my next character, X-Ray:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0001.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0002.jpg

At this point you're allowed to scratch your head and wonder if you've stepped into a Fantasy painting log! X-Ray is intended to be the "geek" of the team, physically frail but mentally powerful. He's a renowned scientist who was called in by the Government to examine a crashed space vessel. In the process of the examination he tripped some sort of mechanism, flooding his body with radiation and turning him into (to use his words) "a shadow at Hiroshima." The pole he's leaning on will be some alien staff - I need something decent to top it.

X-Ray is based a little on Beast from the X-Men, and a little on Doctor Manhattan from Watchmen - as a result I'm considering painting his skeleton entirely blue! His flesh has been completely stripped away, but replaced with some sort of alien substance.

I'm considering sculpting a labcoat/sunglasses, though I'm a bit wary that it might not look up to scratch, and the "walking skeleton" effect might be lost a little!

There's going to be a LOT of progress in this thread, though it'll likely be a bit sporadic. I have mini-orders from Reaper and Hasslefree due, so hopefully I'll be able to show you some more of my ideas as they form. I'm really looking forward to this thread as it's something different from the typical GRIMDARK in which I'm usually submerged.

Hope you guys find it interesting, too!

- Mol.

Barret
19-01-2009, 22:21
For X-Ray, what about a shorter coat, like a bomber jacket, instead of the full trench/lab coat? That might obscure the skeleton-ness less...

Commissar Molotov
19-01-2009, 22:29
Awesome to have you around, spurring me on to these heights of insanity! I'm not sure about a bomber jacket, just because it might look a bit odd (I say that as though a skeleton in a labcoat is normal!) on its own without trousers, shoes, etc. By contrast, a labcoat on its own is almost acceptable, in an eccentric superbeing sort of way. At least, the mind questions it less... I think?

El-Diablo
19-01-2009, 22:46
You Molotov, are bonkers mate.

Stark raving bonkers.

Nice little idea though, your not the only one looking into other games recently, im jumping on the post-apoc bandwagon myself.

Anyway, onto the figures - I think Thunderbolt needs something on the lower half - the parts themselves suit a superhero perfectly, but the addition of the larger scout head I think makes the Eldar frame a little top heavy.

As for X-ray, glasses are a must to show off the 'geekyness', possibly even a bag to keep generic sci-fi equipment in?

MrInsomniac
19-01-2009, 22:53
This. Is. Epic. I'll be following this for sure!

Commissar Molotov
19-01-2009, 23:02
You Molotov, are bonkers mate.

Stark raving bonkers.

Nice little idea though, your not the only one looking into other games recently, im jumping on the post-apoc bandwagon myself.

Anyway, onto the figures - I think Thunderbolt needs something on the lower half - the parts themselves suit a superhero perfectly, but the addition of the larger scout head I think makes the Eldar frame a little top heavy.

As for X-ray, glasses are a must to show off the 'geekyness', possibly even a bag to keep generic sci-fi equipment in?


Hah, I was hoping you'd find this before I had to PM you! It gives me something (else) to do, when I'm not fiddling around with albino Orks and waiting for IA: Sword Bearers to drop into my inbox sometime before the next ice-age and our sun going supernova... :angel:

If you lived a little closer I'd join you in the post-apoc. Hasslefree have some wonderful zombie-hunting miniatures and a game like that would be a blast to play. Now that would be something that could be very easily be kitbashed out of Necromunda rules!

Mmmm... possibilites... (I mean brains! Brains!)

Thunderbolt is a bit top-heavy, I admit. But to me the skewey proportions are a lot more okay in the exaggerated world of superheroes! I'll have to think about something to put on the bottom half - suggestions are welcome. I looked at putting pouches at his waist but that seemed to make him a little low-tech considering he's effectively an Iron Man parody.

He does need a bit of converting on the back because I'm not using the Eldar "vanes" - I'm going to be using some Space Marine parts... more on that later.

(Actually, I do need to PM you something quite juicy I got off my brother... check your B+C inbox when you read this.)


This. Is. Epic. I'll be following this for sure!

Yay! It's always nice when someone who isn't one-of-my-friends-that-I-bully-into-replying likes these things! I'll try to keep on top of this, though university and the postal service might conspire to get in my way! At the very least I have a LOT of fluff and a LOT of storylines planned. Patriot City will be a busy place!

Wolf Scout Ewan
19-01-2009, 23:44
Cool idea!

I play City Of Heroes and so the superhero mini idea appeals to me! Will be watching!

Bregalad
20-01-2009, 02:12
The superhero stuff I know of:
1.) HeroClix and everything by Wizkids of course, with established rules.
2.) Pulp City http://www.fantization.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=416 (more coming)
3.) Reaper Chronoscope http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/chronoscope/ (more coming)
4.) Superfigs http://www.fourcolorfigs.com/ (w. rules, 28mm, more here http://www.agisn.de/html/superheroes.html ) rules https://www.wargamersheadquarters.com/product/1-supersystem-superhero-miniature-battles-2nd-edition.html
5.) Lance and Laser http://lanceandlaser.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PLST&Store_Code=LAL (25mm)
6.) The Marvel Heroes board game: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/14808 and Monopoly.
7.) Marvel Heroscape http://www.hasbro.com/games/kid-games/heroscape/default.cfm?page=Marvel
... and one miniature range of several generic super hero fractions that I can't find at the moment.

Even GW made some a long time ago: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/citsuperheroes.htm , here a collection of more old and current stuff http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/super-heroes.html .
Even more info here: http://www.herogames.com/digitalHero/Samples/dh12miniatures.htm

Cpt_Tiberius
20-01-2009, 02:40
Ha ha! I love it. So far I am digging what you have going on. Here are some suggestions:

Thunderbolt. What about mounting the top of a tau shield drone to his back to create an "electron collider"? also he could use a belt I think. the tau range is your best bet for accoutrements for the "tech" guy I think.

As for X-Ray. I agree the lab coat might be a bit much, a shoulder bag of science gear could be nice. also a cyber monocle might give him that "professor" feeling.

So far so good. makes me want to kit bash a super hero myself...

-T.

Commissar Molotov
20-01-2009, 04:02
Cool idea!

I play City Of Heroes and so the superhero mini idea appeals to me! Will be watching!

Thanks for the post! I played City of Heroes on a free thirty-day trial and I really enjoyed it. Not perfect - obviously not enticing enough for me to pay money for it - but I did enjoy it. I liked their character creator.

I just checked, and City of Heroes is set in Paragon City, isn't it? I actually considered Paragon City as the name for this setting - my other option was New Edison City. In the end I've gone for Patriot City, which is actually the setting for the Freedom Force games.

Wonderful thing with comics - I can just say the Paragon universe is just part of the multiverse!


The superhero stuff I know of:
1.) HeroClix and everything by Wizkids of course, with established rules.
2.) Pulp City http://www.fantization.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=416 (more coming)
3.) Reaper Chronoscope http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/chronoscope/ (more coming)
4.) Superfigs http://www.fourcolorfigs.com/ (w. rules, 28mm, more here http://www.agisn.de/html/superheroes.html ) rules https://www.wargamersheadquarters.com/product/1-supersystem-superhero-miniature-battles-2nd-edition.html
5.) Lance and Laser http://lanceandlaser.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PLST&Store_Code=LAL (25mm)
6.) The Marvel Heroes board game: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/14808 and Monopoly.
7.) Marvel Heroscape http://www.hasbro.com/games/kid-games/heroscape/default.cfm?page=Marvel
... and one miniature range of several generic super hero fractions that I can't find at the moment.

Even GW made some a long time ago: http://www.solegends.com/citadel/citsuperheroes.htm , here a collection of more old and current stuff http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/super-heroes.html .
Even more info here: http://www.herogames.com/digitalHero/Samples/dh12miniatures.htm

Bregalad - thank you very much for these posts. Heroclix interests me but I don't know about the scale. My Google results have been a bit sketchy. How would a Heroclix model stand next to a 40k model, or the Hasslefree stuff I'll be getting?

I've bought a few of the Chronoscope models - two of the Captain Griffon, one of the Firefox (she'll become notorious jewel-thief "Amethyst" - heavily inspired by Catwoman!) and one of the Crosswire... I also got that wrestler with the fold-up chair.

Superfigs perplexes me. Some of the models are really good, and I'd like to get my hands on them. From what I read, it's almost certainly the rules-set I'll be using, too. But the Superfigs website itself, from what I saw, hasn't been updated since 2007. Is the Company still going? Are the models easily available?

My friend actually has the Marvel Heroes board-game. We tried it out and it wasn't that good, sadly. I don't think he'd enjoy me converting the models, though!

If anyone can find decent generic superheroes I'd be over-the-moon! Too many models have guns and it's so difficult to justify a city where every superhero has guns! They can't ALL be like the Punisher.

Finally, thank you for the link to Agis Neugebauer's site. I'm really very, very impressed!


Ha ha! I love it. So far I am digging what you have going on. Here are some suggestions:

Thunderbolt. What about mounting the top of a tau shield drone to his back to create an "electron collider"? also he could use a belt I think. the tau range is your best bet for accoutrements for the "tech" guy I think.

As for X-Ray. I agree the lab coat might be a bit much, a shoulder bag of science gear could be nice. also a cyber monocle might give him that "professor" feeling.

So far so good. makes me want to kit bash a super hero myself...

-T.

With regards to Thunderbolt I've already made up a jetpack for him... because I'm not using those Eldar "vanes" I've cut up some intakes from Space Marine backpacks. It looks pretty good, actually - and I reckon it'll look better when it's painted. A utility belt might be a good way of helping to bulk him out a bit, too.

As for X-Ray... next you'll be suggesting I give him one of those head-mirror things to make him more Doctor-ly... ;)



Anyway, here's a few pics.

These first three show my 'jetpack' for Thunderbolt. Four Space Marine backpack intakes cut up and rearranged. It just needs a tiny bit of green-stuff.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0002.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0003.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0004.jpg
Apologies for the hideously blurry last pic, but it's one of the best pictures at showing the layout of the intakes - helps show that it's not too bad.

Commissar Molotov
20-01-2009, 04:05
Next, a couple of pics (because Tiberius has gone to bed.)

He sent me this over MSN to explain his ideas regarding Thunderbolt:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0001-belt.jpg

I quite like the belt design, though I'm open to opinions from others - I'll be giving it a go tomorrow unless anyone posts a better suggestion. The Thunderbolt symbol... eh. I dunno.

Funnily enough, we then both sent eachother a picture over MSN at almost the same time.

This was mine:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0003.jpg

This was his:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/x-ray-coat.jpg

So obviously we're thinking along the same lines... opinions on the coat are definitely welcome!

Barret
20-01-2009, 07:20
T-bolt's jetpack looks good, like it's an integral part of the suit.

For X-Ray, I think I prefer Tiberius' version of the coat, as it still gets the point across while hiding less of the skeleton.


Also, giving him one of those head-mirror things would be awesome. ;)

Geckilian
20-01-2009, 09:53
Finally. FINALLY. A log about superheroes and supervillains. Not long ago I started playing SuperSystem with my friends, and it really is an incredible system. It's et a lot of versitility, and it's easy to change around if everyone agrees that something doesn't flow quite smoothly. I personally have a team of mad scientist supervillains and their various creations (called Cultured Clash), so I'll be watching this log closely!

Thunderbolt s certainly shaping up well. He does look a tad top heavy, but then quite a few superheroes do. Some form of belt will alance it nicely, as shown in that edited picture above. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing some of your supervillains.

Bregalad
20-01-2009, 10:20
1.) Heroclix, Indyclix etc are all exactly the right scale. They are realistically portioned, so it depends on your "malformed" GW miniature sculpts (big hands etc) whether they fit.
2.) Superfigs are still sold, e.g. here http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/categories.asp?cat=47 . Don't know of the company status though.
3.) Black Hat sells these http://blackhat.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=121_122_141
4.) World Works has some paper terrain for them http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/
5.) Gale Force 9 makes Heroclix material like effect markers and IIRC a table mat.

Taarnak
20-01-2009, 16:53
SuperSystem is still alive and well.

Here is the Yahoo Group (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Superfigs/) and the website from one of the creators of 2nd Edition: The Annex (http://dave.dynip.com/S2Annex/default.htm)

Both of these sites have lots of action on them. I know for sure that you can get vendor recommendations on the Yahoo Group if you ask.

I cannot recommend the SuperSystem rules highly enough. Excellent system for Supers (and honestly just about anything else). Points build system and campaign rules built-in. Great stuff.

For whatever reason, the official site is not updated very often anymore. I assume it has to do with the split of Old Glory and Westwind, but I do not know for certain.

Hope that helps some.

~Eric

Commissar Molotov
20-01-2009, 19:34
T-bolt's jetpack looks good, like it's an integral part of the suit.

For X-Ray, I think I prefer Tiberius' version of the coat, as it still gets the point across while hiding less of the skeleton.


Also, giving him one of those head-mirror things would be awesome.

I'm very seriously considering one of those head-mirrors now... I blame Tiberius!



Finally. FINALLY. A log about superheroes and supervillains. Not long ago I started playing SuperSystem with my friends, and it really is an incredible system. It's et a lot of versitility, and it's easy to change around if everyone agrees that something doesn't flow quite smoothly. I personally have a team of mad scientist supervillains and their various creations (called Cultured Clash), so I'll be watching this log closely!

Thunderbolt s certainly shaping up well. He does look a tad top heavy, but then quite a few superheroes do. Some form of belt will alance it nicely, as shown in that edited picture above. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing some of your supervillains.

I remember your Penitent Spectres from the B+C! It's good to see you here. I'm also glad to receive opinions from another superhero player!

I do have a few supervillains in the works. Actually, a number of my characters currently could be heroes or villains. And in an odd way that works - I like the idea that many villains are simply villains through some crazy random happenstance or a quirk of fate. Of course, some are irredeemably evil and must be severely bonked on the head!

Plus, there'll come times when the heroes clash, or when they have to team up with villain A to defeat villain B. Such is superherodom!

Thanks for the comment, I hope the thread is worth your attention!


1.) Heroclix, Indyclix etc are all exactly the right scale. They are realistically portioned, so it depends on your "malformed" GW miniature sculpts (big hands etc) whether they fit.
2.) Superfigs are still sold, e.g. here http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/categories.asp?cat=47 . Don't know of the company status though.
3.) Black Hat sells these http://blackhat.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=121_122_141
4.) World Works has some paper terrain for them http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/
5.) Gale Force 9 makes Heroclix material like effect markers and IIRC a table mat.

I spent today looking around my city for Heroclix models. Alas, no joy! :( I seem to remember a time when they were everywhere. Now I have no idea where to look. I tried Toys-R-Us, Asda, WH Smiths... I might try Forbidden Planet but I'm unsure if I'll have any luck.

I saw those Black Cat models but I'm a bit disappointed with the sculpting and size of them. Golden Oldie is a wonderful concept but if only it were executed just a touch better - then I'd do a minutemen-style super-team in Patriot City's past and the legacy of those heroes.


SuperSystem is still alive and well.

Here is the Yahoo Group (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Superfigs/) and the website from one of the creators of 2nd Edition: The Annex (http://dave.dynip.com/S2Annex/default.htm)

Both of these sites have lots of action on them. I know for sure that you can get vendor recommendations on the Yahoo Group if you ask.

I cannot recommend the SuperSystem rules highly enough. Excellent system for Supers (and honestly just about anything else). Points build system and campaign rules built-in. Great stuff.

For whatever reason, the official site is not updated very often anymore. I assume it has to do with the split of Old Glory and Westwind, but I do not know for certain.

Hope that helps some.

~Eric

Thanks for the post. The lack of updates on the Superfigs site actually really put me off initially - it just seems like they're not bothering to try! I'm keen to get my hands on the models though (I wish I didn't have to rely on the internet) so I'll give it a look. Thanks for letting me know.


I've started green-stuffing a utility belt on Thunderbolt, pictures probably tomorrow.

Bregalad
20-01-2009, 23:22
(Marvel, DC and Indy) Heroclix are best bought as individual miniatures on ebay. There are close to 1600 items sold currently, so something should be there for you. I suggest looking through http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/ to get an idea of what you want and then search for the ebay store who sells most of what you want. Be aware that most Heroclix miniatures are sold with blue, yellow and red base rim (different stat wheels) with same sculpt but different prices (rarely different paint jobs). The blue="rookie" ones are dirt cheap and best buy if you just want the minature, often much less than a dollar, so "buy now" stores are convenient.

Easy E
21-01-2009, 00:42
You can find the old Marvel Super Heroes rules online for free here: http://www.classicmarvel.com/

I find the powers book particularly useful, but I think this game is fun and could easily be adapted into miniature combat.

Illuminator
21-01-2009, 01:09
Very good idea Mol, the name Paragons is very fitting as well. I think you've started another trend. :D

I think that Thunderbolt looks appropriate as the Superhero team's leader, though as others stated he looks a little too top heavy. I blame it on the head! I think the addition of the high tech belt will balance it out slightly. I think that new boots could look good too actually. Would you be opposed to trying out a different set of feet. If you are in fact trying to push the comic look, I think it would actually help the model if you went with moderately oversized feet.

As for X-Ray, I definitely dig the shorter coat since you can see more of his skeletal frame.

Do you have anymore ideas for the Paragons besides Amethyst? I'm eager to see how this log progresses and I'll be watching closely.

Geckilian
21-01-2009, 01:33
I'm glad you remember those Penitent Spectres! The little critters are doing incredibly well at the local GW.

At any rate, if you're in the US this place may be useful for you - StrikeZoneOnline (http://store.strikezoneonline.com/Singles/HC.html). Though it doesn't have every single Heroclix figure made, it does have a wide range at very low prices. I've seen some nice ones at rookie level for 25 cents....

You know, I'll have to update my general log with my supervillains now, curses.

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 02:20
(Marvel, DC and Indy) Heroclix are best bought as individual miniatures on ebay. There are close to 1600 items sold currently, so something should be there for you. I suggest looking through http://www.wizkidsgames.com/heroclix/ to get an idea of what you want and then search for the ebay store who sells most of what you want. Be aware that most Heroclix miniatures are sold with blue, yellow and red base rim (different stat wheels) with same sculpt but different prices (rarely different paint jobs). The blue="rookie" ones are dirt cheap and best buy if you just want the minature, often much less than a dollar, so "buy now" stores are convenient.

Awesome, an approach I hadn't really considered but that might be worthwhile. Thanks! There are some interesting models on there, and at very cheap prices - 99p for a model makes it an interesting proposition.



You can find the old Marvel Super Heroes rules online for free here: http://www.classicmarvel.com/

I find the powers book particularly useful, but I think this game is fun and could easily be adapted into miniature combat.

Thanks - I believe it'll be easier to draw my friends in with a skirmish game over a roleplay initially - they're Necromunda fanatics, so it might be easier. I played a game with my best friend (and chief painter) today using a SuperSystem Primer and it was fun! Very different (and his terrible luck with dice seemed to carry over into this game too, which is fun!)


Very good idea Mol, the name Paragons is very fitting as well. I think you've started another trend. :D

I think that Thunderbolt looks appropriate as the Superhero team's leader, though as others stated he looks a little too top heavy. I blame it on the head! I think the addition of the high tech belt will balance it out slightly. I think that new boots could look good too actually. Would you be opposed to trying out a different set of feet. If you are in fact trying to push the comic look, I think it would actually help the model if you went with moderately oversized feet.

As for X-Ray, I definitely dig the shorter coat since you can see more of his skeletal frame.

Do you have anymore ideas for the Paragons besides Amethyst? I'm eager to see how this log progresses and I'll be watching closely.

Hah, well I don't think I started the trend. I was actually incredibly surprised that there weren't more superhero threads on Warseer when I did a search.

Thunderbolt's head is big, yes. Though as I've said the weird proportions don't matter too much. I'm not sure about changing his feet though, because I want to retain the "single armoured suit" look. I want to avoid 'boots' because so many of the other characters will have them.

Amethyst won't be a Paragon, though she will be a sometime romantic interest for Thunderbolt despite being a (minor) villain. I've got a bunch of characters planned but I'd rather wait until I have the parts to make them before unleashing them on people. Which is difficult because I'm such an impatient person!


I'm glad you remember those Penitent Spectres! The little critters are doing incredibly well at the local GW.

At any rate, if you're in the US this place may be useful for you - StrikeZoneOnline (http://store.strikezoneonline.com/Singles/HC.html). Though it doesn't have every single Heroclix figure made, it does have a wide range at very low prices. I've seen some nice ones at rookie level for 25 cents....

You know, I'll have to update my general log with my supervillains now, curses.

Unfortunately I'm in the UK :( but thanks for the link. And be sure to let me know when you put your villains up! I'd love to see them.

Geckilian
21-01-2009, 02:50
Oho, I'm UK too. At any rate the villains are up (as well as a lot of other stuff I've neglected to put in my log....) in the general section.

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 03:10
Oh, cool. Where did you get your copy of SuperSystem from?

Geckilian
21-01-2009, 03:44
I got it here - http://www.sabersedge.com/fourcolor.asp and I also got the 2007 annual, since it doesn't cost much, has 4 new powers which are highly thematic and simply awesome (like the power Nemesis) and elaborate on the slugfest scenario. One, for example, has a 'Night in the Museum' feel, with all the museum exhibits coming to life to attack the heroes and villains.

I tend to prefer a pdf copy, since it can be shared much easier. If you ignore the example characters, background pages and full picture pages, it's very quick to print too, since it's basically only the character and henchman creation pages and scenarios you need to play.

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 04:02
Fantastic! I actually had an idea where the Patriot City Museum would have a visiting exhibition come to life - I had the idea of the Chinese Terracotta Army coming to life and striding down the boulevards. Though a re-animated skeleton dinosaur could be a brilliant idea...

I've started GSing X-Ray's labcoat. I've gone for the shorter style after doing some googling on coats. I'm part-way through but I've got to leave it to cure before building off what I've got. Patience isn't my strong-suit!

Illuminator
21-01-2009, 04:38
Fantastic! I actually had an idea where the Patriot City Museum would have a visiting exhibition come to life - I had the idea of the Chinese Terracotta Army coming to life and striding down the boulevards. Though a re-animated skeleton dinosaur could be a brilliant idea...

The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor meets Night at the Museum? :) Either way I like both ideas, so why not incorporate both at different times in the setting of Patriot City?

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 09:59
Hah, something like that.

Here's some quick shots (apologies for the dodgy camerawork)

Thunderbolt's Utility Belt:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0005.jpg

X-Ray with in-progress coat:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0004.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0005.jpg

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 18:47
Finally, the sort of update Painting people like! The sort with paint in!

I managed to convince my friend Nick to paint Thunderbolt as he's going to be playing him, and his "quick" paintjobs far outstrip my painstaking ones!

First up, here's a painted Thunderbolt:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0006.jpg


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0007.jpg


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0008.jpg


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0009.jpg

Commissar Molotov
21-01-2009, 18:48
Thunderbolt next to X-Ray:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Paragons-0001.jpg

And a close-up of X-Ray. I know with primer it's difficult to discern, but I've added a staff-top made from a Fantasy Empire General mace.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0006.jpg

[sgt.Harris](voltarian)
21-01-2009, 19:00
This is Great!

i may have to use this if you dont mind , and ill try to make my friends want to play too!

when you make up the rules would i be able to use them or not, is that against forum rules for homemade rules?

anyway cheer , volt

Barret
21-01-2009, 19:14
Holy crap, that was fast. T-bolt looks great! The utility belt really sets off the model and adds that little missing touch.

Taarnak
21-01-2009, 19:38
T-bolt does look great! Look sort of Iron Man meets Batman to me.

Looking forward to X-Ray being finished.

If you get the SuperSystem rules be sure to get the Annual that Geckilian mentioned and the Holiday special. The Holiday Special should be free.

~Eric

Kyrios
21-01-2009, 22:27
If no-one else has mentioned it I really must recommend Dr. Horrible's sing-a-long blog. You can watch it free on http://drhorrible.com/mushortio.html if you live in the states or download it on other sites.
You can't go wrong with a supervillain musical.
(Dr.Horribles goggles would be nice on X-ray's forehead)

Geckilian
22-01-2009, 00:02
Aha, nice T-bolt, though I reckon he would have looked great with the thunderbolt mon his chest.

Dr. Horrible's sing-a-long blog is the entire inspiration for my team of supervillain mad scientists, heh. Indeed, you really can't go wrong with a supervillain musical.

LordKhaine
22-01-2009, 00:09
these are fraggin mint lol

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 00:29
First up, an up-to-the-minute update off my workbench... uh... desk.

Anyway, here you go:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0001.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0002.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0003.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0004.jpg



(voltarian);3221257']This is Great!

i may have to use this if you dont mind , and ill try to make my friends want to play too!

when you make up the rules would i be able to use them or not, is that against forum rules for homemade rules?

anyway cheer , volt

I considered making my own rules, as I'm a keen specialist games player, but I've decided against it. I'm looking into SuperSystem, which is a rules-set many people use. You should be able to find the site through a google search, or just check through this thread.


Holy crap, that was fast. T-bolt looks great! The utility belt really sets off the model and adds that little missing touch.

Cheers. Also it makes him look a little less skinny, which is good.


T-bolt does look great! Look sort of Iron Man meets Batman to me.

Looking forward to X-Ray being finished.

If you get the SuperSystem rules be sure to get the Annual that Geckilian mentioned and the Holiday special. The Holiday Special should be free.

~Eric

Thanks, I definitely will.

If no-one else has mentioned it I really must recommend Dr. Horrible's sing-a-long blog. You can watch it free on http://drhorrible.com/mushortio.html if you live in the states or download it on other sites.
You can't go wrong with a supervillain musical.
(Dr.Horribles goggles would be nice on X-ray's forehead)

I'm definitely a fan of Doctor Horrible. One of my favourite Whedon creations. I considered googles but I'm not sure I'd be able to pull them off... though I do have some scout bits... it might just happen...


Aha, nice T-bolt, though I reckon he would have looked great with the thunderbolt mon his chest.

Dr. Horrible's sing-a-long blog is the entire inspiration for my team of supervillain mad scientists, heh. Indeed, you really can't go wrong with a supervillain musical.

Yeah, Nick didn't want the flashy chest symbol, so that's fair enough. It's his character, after all.


these are fraggin mint lol

Cheers mate.

Barret
22-01-2009, 00:42
That is so much win I think my pancreas just exploded.

AtmanAbecedarian
22-01-2009, 02:43
Wow, this project is progressing with marvelous results!
Cthonic villains...pure boss.

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 13:36
That is so much win I think my pancreas just exploded.

Might've known you'd like him ;). By the way, your model came from Heresy; I'm just waiting for the Hasslefree one.


Wow, this project is progressing with marvelous results!
Cthonic villains...pure boss.

"Cthonic villains"? You're closer (and yet much further) than you think!

Cheers for the comment. :)


EDIT: Nice pun on "Marvel"ous, by the way.


Whilst I think about it, I'm undecided as to whether Xray's bones should be blue or green. Thoughts welcomed!

AtmanAbecedarian
22-01-2009, 15:47
Closer AND further??? Hmmm.
Xray would be cool bright green.

Easy E
22-01-2009, 18:05
I think X-ray needs sunglasses and a stethoscope, but that might just be me.

Also, his bones should be neon green.

Barret
22-01-2009, 18:48
:D Tentacles FTW!


And by closer and further, Molly means that Cthonic sounds like "Cthuvian", which is the right word and why you're close, but Cthonic means "of the earth" and not "horrible gribbly from the depths of time/space", which is why you're far.

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 18:49
Well, that's not what I meant at all! You Lovecraftian Uber-geek, you.

El-Diablo
22-01-2009, 20:26
:D Tentacles FTW!


Got to agree with Barret there. You can't beat a good set of tentacles.

Nick's paintjob on Thunderbolt looks the business, bright and obnoxious, just like every superhero should be. Well, except the Punisher.

You've got me thinking about superhero's now, I might have to come up with a figure for you to use in your games. Maybe even a super-villain? I think my mind is configured more for Villains than Heroes anyway.

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 20:36
Ooh, that sounds interesting... I look forward to hearing your ideas.

By the way, what do you reckon as to X-Ray's skeleton? Blue or Green?

That latest character is on hold for a while because I need to source some lizardmen arms. (And university work... boo!)

Barret
22-01-2009, 20:55
I know green seems to be the common consensus, but it occurred to me that it might end up looking kind of "ghostly", as pale green is a common way to paint spectres and such. Blue still would get the weird, irradiated look but without him being confused for a ghost.

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 21:25
Good point well made. I hadn't considered that, and my brother's planning a LOTR Army of the Dead! Oops. It's definitely worth considering, though I was planning a nasty, eye-hurting, acidy-type green. Goblin Green or somesuch.

That said, blue was my initial though and it does pay homage to Doc Manhattan and to Beast, the initial inspirations for the X-Ray character...

El-Diablo
22-01-2009, 22:23
Ooh, that sounds interesting... I look forward to hearing your ideas.

By the way, what do you reckon as to X-Ray's skeleton? Blue or Green?




I was thinking about quite a suave Villain, similar to the guy from the movie The Crow. Decadent, arrogant and pretty handy with a sword. He needs a 'super power' though, and a lot more thought.

Either that or a pair of henchmen, one male, one female. Again obvious stereotypes, the male would be the muscle and think he's in charge while it's the female who's the more skilled fighter and the brain of the two.

As for X-Ray, i'd go with green, but i'd only use it in the shading and add white for highlights.

Barret
22-01-2009, 22:42
I can see them now... The Crimson Kingpin? Rouge Assassin? Magenta Mastermind? The Scarlet Letters? The Red Hand Gang?

El-Diablo
22-01-2009, 22:54
I can see them now... The Crimson Kingpin? Rouge Assassin? Magenta Mastermind? The Scarlet Letters? The Red Hand Gang?

Trust you to get a red joke in!

I quite like the Crimson Kingpin though........

Barret
22-01-2009, 22:58
Well, you're the guy whose idea of a non-red model is Speed Freeks. ;)

El-Diablo
22-01-2009, 23:16
Well, you're the guy whose idea of a non-red model is Speed Freeks. ;)

You got me there. You may also be interested in the first mini in this (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179675) post.

Commissar Molotov
22-01-2009, 23:41
I was thinking about quite a suave Villain, similar to the guy from the movie The Crow. Decadent, arrogant and pretty handy with a sword. He needs a 'super power' though, and a lot more thought.

Either that or a pair of henchmen, one male, one female. Again obvious stereotypes, the male would be the muscle and think he's in charge while it's the female who's the more skilled fighter and the brain of the two.

As for X-Ray, i'd go with green, but i'd only use it in the shading and add white for highlights.

Sounds interesting! I look forward to seeing where you go with them.


I can see them now... The Crimson Kingpin? Rouge Assassin? Magenta Mastermind? The Scarlet Letters? The Red Hand Gang?

You forgot "Rouge Rogues"!


You got me there. You may also be interested in the first mini in this (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179675) post.

Glad to see you've got it online, I look forward to seeing updates and not having to bounce everywhere around the internet! :)

Commissar Molotov
24-01-2009, 18:16
I was talking to Nick on MSN today and he suggested that I take out a bit from the Atlantean's ankles so that he looks less like he's standing on his tip-toes. (Though to a degree I like the idea that he looks almost predatory, like he's stalking.)

Still I worked this up in Paint (bear in mind I'm on a laptop with a touchpad rather than a mouse) and I was interested in what people thought.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlanteanconversion.jpg

Barret
24-01-2009, 18:56
Hmmm... I think I prefer with the ankles on. If you want to do anything about the ankles and tippy-toes look, what about adding dewclaws to ankles ?

Commissar Molotov
24-01-2009, 19:13
Hrm, worth considering. I was trying to decide if I wanted to move away from the "dinosaurian" angle afforded by the Kroot feet. I could try to make them more like webbed flippers but I'm not sure how cheesy they'll make it look.

I mean I'm planning on using those lizardmen arms you have and they have three fingers plus thumb (assuming I'm not going to be resculpting the hands.)

Decisions, decisions!

Illuminator
24-01-2009, 19:32
I prefer the Atlantean without the ankles. It's sorta hard to explain for such an inhuman creature, but the Atlantean still retains human qualities, keeping those protruded ankles make it look more and more distant from a human. I'm not sure if that's the way you want to go, but I think it would look better if you went for a tough fish-like human, than a dinosaur-alien. Also, go for the webbed feet, it helps move the model away from the clawed toes that triggers that t-rex appearance.

Commissar Molotov
24-01-2009, 19:36
I thought it was funny how Namor and Aquaman both come from Atlantises that are populated by very human races. My plan is to paint him in greys, with black eyes, to evoke the air of a shark. There's elements of the Martian Manhunter and Uatu the Watcher. And sadly he's not going to be a villain - Though the Atlantean race might be... I want to play on that juxtaposition between a devilish appearance and benevolent actions. I thought a cool scenario might be the Paragons having to defend the Atlantean from a riotous mob. I'm all about telling stories!

My idea is that the Atlanteans were the basis for Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos and that they've had limited contact with humans throughout their history - Plato, obviously. That was why AtmanAbecedarian was close (by calling them 'Cthonic') but far (by calling him a 'villain'). :)

And as an incredibly ancient race, I can see some worth in giving them links to Dinosaurs, but perhaps evoking the air of a shark or a squid is better. I just don't want him to become cheesy. As he stands he's currently one of my favourite ever conversions, and I don't want to ruin him! :)

AtmanAbecedarian
24-01-2009, 19:41
I dig the Atlantian as is, however if you were to mod the ankles I think it would be cool to have fins running up the legs.
Also, as for Xrays paint job, I think a it may be interesting to use a dark blue base with a bright green overcoat with generous highlighting. Just pulled that together...but it would give him a rather ethereal glow.

Commissar Molotov
24-01-2009, 22:28
Someone on the Forum of Doom posted this link of Blight from one of the Batman animated series:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/blight.jpg

Which definitely has some value for consideration with regards to X-Ray. A moment with paint to invert the picture (I'm no photoshop wizz!) has this to provide some idea for a blue version - though perhaps the blue version would have black bones too:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Inverted-Blight.jpg

Illuminator
24-01-2009, 22:55
That's a really cool image, though X-Ray would be considerably smaller in stature correct?

Commissar Molotov
24-01-2009, 22:58
Well, as modelled he's around the same height as Thunderbolt, though I consider scale to be a little bit of an elastic concept with these models, especially as I'm buying from a number of manufacturers who make a number of models in a number of scales!

I imagine X-Ray would be a bit smaller, yes, as he'd be a scientist brought in by the military to study the [whatever irradiates him]. Still, it's an interesting effect i hadn't considered. Though as the Xray model doesn't have any "skin" to be painted translucent, the effect would have to be something different - black bones with green in the recesses, and I think that might make him look a little too TRON-ish.

Barret
25-01-2009, 21:46
I like the idea of painting the Atlantean like a shark, it emphasizes his inhumanity. I think that giving him full-on flippers might look a bit clown-ish, but webbing between his toes would be fine.

For X-Ray, what about green or blue bones with black in the recesses? The other way around sounds kind of odd to me. Until now, I was picturing him as being green or blue at darkest and leading up to almost white.

Commissar Molotov
26-01-2009, 02:00
I'm not sure, really, but I'll likely be giving it a go today. I didn't know about Blight from Batman Beyond but it gives me another justification to avoid green! Blue it is.

I am actually going to work on a villain soon, too. I've got the scavvy boss (the top-left model in this (http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1252064_99110599153_NecroScavvy-Main_873x627.jpg) picture) and I'm likely going to be using him as a evil villain character - possibly using the name "Blight", or "Poison" or "Toxin".

AtmanAbecedarian
26-01-2009, 02:20
Ooooo, villians! That should be a fun mini to work with.
If you're going for the "noxious chemical/substance" you could also go for "Bane", "Virus", "Canker", "Cancer", "Taint"...just food for thought.
I wait intently for more! :)

Commissar Molotov
26-01-2009, 02:26
Funny you should mention "cancer" - my concept with that character was that his body was riddled with tumours and he's terminal, so he cares little for the consequences of his actions. It allows me to have a villain likely to invest in "uber-weapons" and the like.

I'm still waiting for my orders to come from Hasslefree (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk) and Reaper (http://www.reapermini.com) which is why I'm still working on GW models. I have considered some of the Necromunda Spyrers (which I've got sitting around somewhere) might be useful Supers. I'm also going to paint some Necromunda Orlocks as a street gang and some Redemptionists as a cult that'll feature later... :)

For those that're interested, the Hero-related models I'm buying from Hasslefree are:

Dionne (b) HFA021
Harby HFA037
Kitty HFA043
Baker HFA036
Narg the Torturer HFV010
Wolf & Jo HFH020
Summer HFF007

I've since seen a bunch more Hasslefree models I want to consider for heroes and other major characters, but that'll have to wait until my bank account recovers a bit!

As for Reaper, I've ordered:

Captain Griffon, Superhero #5708
Crosswire, Super Villain #5636
El Diablo, Pro Wrestler #5711
Firefox, Female Super Hero #5752

Though I'll tell you more when they arrive! :)

Commissar Molotov
26-01-2009, 19:11
Well, Barret asked for a picture of Blight as he stands, so I took a quick snap - It's pretty dark here so I had to artificially lighten it a bit.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Blight-001.jpg

I'm only really happy with the grey at the top. I'm a little lost as to the colour-scheme to go for with him...

Oh, and something I think you'll like: Batman versus Rorschach!

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/800px-CountdownArenaCropped.jpg

Barret
26-01-2009, 19:15
Pffft, Rorschach would totally defeat Batman. Or they'd just go compare tortured childhoods together...


Anyways, Blight looks good so far. You replaced the gun with the blade, and removed the club-thing, right? Is the blue a base coat, or you going with a two-tone scheme?

Commissar Molotov
26-01-2009, 19:18
The Boss actually comes without hands - there's a Scavvy weapon sprue - which is where I got his left hand for. His right hand is actually taken from the Khrangar the Sharp limited edition model that was released by the Black Library as part of a diorama with Eisenhorn.

As for the blue (which is Fenris Grey) I originally tried Catachan Green... I'm thinking now that a brown might work, otherwise I might do him entirely in grey/greys. I'm just not sure what to do with him, colour-wise. I just come up with their dastardly deeds!

EDIT: Thinking about it, it could be cool to put Fabius Bile's injection-gun in his left hand.

Khrangar
26-01-2009, 20:09
I think fabius bile's injector would look better than what he has now. Also, I think it's Khanjar the Sharp, not Khrangar... that's me :P.

Khrangar

Commissar Molotov
26-01-2009, 20:13
I think fabius bile's injector would look better than what he has now. Also, I think it's Khanjar the Sharp, not Khrangar... that's me :P.

Khrangar

Hrm, Lexicanum's Pontius Glaw article (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pontius_Glaw) doesn't say one way or another, and my copy of Eisenhorn is ninety miles away, so I'll cede. It's your username that subconsciously influenced me, I think!

As to the injector, my idea was that he'd have it in his lowered hand - he'll keep both, as I think both would emphasise his bio-technological aspect.

Geckilian
27-01-2009, 00:12
Nice to see the project storming on! It's good seeing the progress, since it's helping to spur me on with painting new Supervillains for my team (which will be hired soon, mwahahahaha....).

The figure for Blight certainly is a great one - he's a heavy in my misc techno gang - but his lowered hand looks slightly ill-defined, and the weapon in the raised one doesn't appear to be actually attached in any way. I may just be because it's not fully painted yet, but overall I reckon the injection gun would suit the figure more.

Commissar Molotov
27-01-2009, 02:18
Hey, nice to see you around. The weapon in the raised hand is attached, it's just not particularly clear. The device is something like this:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Weapon.jpg

And he's gripping it in his hand. (That's how it's sculpted.)

I'm envisaging something like this for the figure:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Blight-002.jpg

AtmanAbecedarian
27-01-2009, 03:11
Blight looks great so far. That's a really interesting weapon in his hand. What is its function?

KaynetheDragon
27-01-2009, 03:36
That's a really interesting weapon in his hand. What is its function?

Stabby death? :p

This stuff looks really cool, gotta love homebrewed superheroes.

As far as X-ray goes, I saw it suggested before, and I am seconding the motion for black recesses, blue bones. Highlighted really well to make him look glowy.

Also, if your going to be buying loads of Reaper Minis, here (http://www.miniature-giant.com/) is a site that offers really significant discounts on them, as well as having a huge selection.

Commissar Molotov
27-01-2009, 06:11
Blight looks great so far. That's a really interesting weapon in his hand. What is its function?

I saw it as some sort of bio-injector or somesuch. I wanted something aside from all the swords/axes/clubs you see on just about every 28mm model!




Stabby death? :p

This stuff looks really cool, gotta love homebrewed superheroes.

As far as X-ray goes, I saw it suggested before, and I am seconding the motion for black recesses, blue bones. Highlighted really well to make him look glowy.

Also, if your going to be buying loads of Reaper Minis, here (http://www.miniature-giant.com/) is a site that offers really significant discounts on them, as well as having a huge selection.

Thanks for the response! I'll check that site out.

Commissar Molotov
27-01-2009, 10:34
Just a quick update -- I'm certainly not in Nick's league but I got a bit of paint onto X-Ray and I repainted Blight so that he's all grey for now:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Blight-003.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Paragons-0002.jpg

[sgt.Harris](voltarian)
27-01-2009, 16:05
looks good!

I have an idea for x-ray , what if you drybrushed a little bit of a lighter blue over the top of his bones , that would make a nice kind-of highlighted effect! :D

Commissar Molotov
28-01-2009, 23:14
Just a bit of an update:

My progress on Blight:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Blight-004.jpg

Nick salvaged my X-Ray paintjob:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Xray-0007.jpg

and a new character, based on Heresy's 'Major' (http://heresyminiatures.com/hsf014.htm):
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Military-0001.jpg

This guy's meant to be the military contact with the Paragons, their 'Nick Fury', so to speak. (No eyepatch though, Barret!)

Barret
28-01-2009, 23:36
Noooo! Eyepatches make everything better! They're like kilts, but for your eyes.

Commissar Molotov
28-01-2009, 23:39
... you mean because there's nothing underneath?

Barret
28-01-2009, 23:53
Badoom-bing-crash.

Seriously though, they're all looking good. The only suggestion I might make is to give X-Ray another highlight of a brighter blue to make him more "glowy".

Commissar Molotov
28-01-2009, 23:55
I'll give that some consideration, definitely.

Also, a new character I've been fiddling around with:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Hammer-01.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Hammer-02.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Hammer-03.jpg

Barret
28-01-2009, 23:58
I guess that makes this hammer time...


Interesting character. What's the base model?

Frowbakk
29-01-2009, 00:02
I think you should add some water effects to X-Ray to make it seem like his flesh is still there, but mostly invisible.

Commissar Molotov
29-01-2009, 00:03
I guess that makes this hammer time...

Stop.







Interesting character. What's the base model?

A Goliath Juve with his mohawk (and both arms) removed - I was going to try to find a picture but it seems the GW site only has one of the more recent Goliath juves pictured (which is lame.) The arms are from the Empire Flagellant kit, and the hammerhead is actually a sensor from the Apothecary backpack.

Barret
29-01-2009, 00:08
That makes the sense. I suspected that might be the origins of the arms. Seems like everybody is getting lots of use out of that kit.

Commissar Molotov
29-01-2009, 00:17
At first glance it's not a very easily-used kit - in that it seems to have very limited applications. I actually originally got it because of the Castigators' zealous nature. But it's an incredibly well-sculpted kit, the musculature on the arms is well done (as opposed to, say, Catachans) and so I definitely think it's worthwhile. You need only look at CMDante's threads for further proof.

El-Diablo
29-01-2009, 19:55
Looks like i've missed a bit then.

I really like where your going with Blight, but im not too sold on his stabby stick. He looks very much like a diseased surgeon, how about a nice sharp looking knife? There's a slightly curved one on the chaos marine sprue that would look great combined with Fabius Bile's weapon.

As for his paint job,:).

I'd wash some green into the folds of the cloth to give it a little more life though, there looking a little flat at the moment.

The goliath based figure looks like it's coming on well, it's got a nice 'evil henchman' look about him.

CMDante
29-01-2009, 20:20
Those new style necromunda goliaths are awesome models, been trying to get my hands on some for a reasonable price for a few years now but they're rare on ebay and a bit of a rip off from GW online.

Keep up the good work

Cheers,

Dante

Commissar Molotov
30-01-2009, 02:23
I think you should add some water effects to X-Ray to make it seem like his flesh is still there, but mostly invisible.

Hey, sorry for missing this post. I'm a bit dubious about doing something like that because I hear so many horror stories about water effects. It's a neat idea, though, but I wouldn't want him turning into some semi-transparent blob! Plus, I'm not entirely sure if his flesh is still there!


Looks like i've missed a bit then.

I really like where your going with Blight, but im not too sold on his stabby stick. He looks very much like a diseased surgeon, how about a nice sharp looking knife? There's a slightly curved one on the chaos marine sprue that would look great combined with Fabius Bile's weapon.

As for his paint job,:).

I'd wash some green into the folds of the cloth to give it a little more life though, there looking a little flat at the moment.

The goliath based figure looks like it's coming on well, it's got a nice 'evil henchman' look about him.

Yeah, I'm not 100% sold on the stabby stick but I quite liked it at the time. I was trying to move away from how every single 28mm sculpt seems to have a gun! I can't find the Fabius Bile injector which is a shame, because I thought I could find one. As for the knife, that seems to come across more as "butcher" than "surgeon" - if I could sculpt it'd be great to give him a scalpel.


Those new style necromunda goliaths are awesome models, been trying to get my hands on some for a reasonable price for a few years now but they're rare on ebay and a bit of a rip off from GW online.

Keep up the good work

Cheers,

Dante

Yeah, they are nice models, though some of the faces are a little questionable. My friend Nick's got a nice Goliath gang and he had this juve spare. I'm hoping to use some of my Orlock miniatures as a street gang (simultaneously painting them up for a future Necromunda campaign) and my Redemptionists/Cawdors as an evil cult.

Thanks for the comments! :)

Illuminator
31-01-2009, 07:25
I really like that last model, the hammer guy. The Necromunda Goliath base was a good choice, and I think the toned musculature works well for the character. What other characters do you have planned? Will we be seeing any in the near future?

Commissar Molotov
31-01-2009, 11:34
I really like that last model, the hammer guy. The Necromunda Goliath base was a good choice, and I think the toned musculature works well for the character. What other characters do you have planned? Will we be seeing any in the near future?

Cheers for the comment! I'm not sure how soon you'll be seeing new characters because I'm busy with university work (oh, how I hate it!) but I did go out and buy some Heroclix models. I have mixed feelings about them - the sculpts veer between average and terrible. There are a couple of nice models. These are the ones I've got that are perhaps the most usable:

Batman (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HDBA/HDBA_004.jpg)
Doom (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_040.jpg)
Immortus (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_020.jpg)
Ms. Marvel (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_008a.jpg)
Ringmaster (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_049.jpg)
Tombstone (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_003.jpg)
Triton (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_037.jpg)

I say these are the most usable because they're the best sculpts, and I have ideas for all of them. I'm going to be converting and repainting them. Hopefully they'll be pretty cool.

Hopefully, my Reaper and Hasslefree orders will come soon, too.

Heru Talon
31-01-2009, 15:27
Someone on the Forum of Doom posted this link of Blight from one of the Batman animated series:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/blight.jpg

Which definitely has some value for consideration with regards to X-Ray. A moment with paint to invert the picture (I'm no photoshop wizz!) has this to provide some idea for a blue version - though perhaps the blue version would have black bones too:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Inverted-Blight.jpg
In blue.

See attachment:

Easy E
01-02-2009, 02:16
Hammerman...

Reminds me of Steel or the real american folklore hero whose name escapes me at the moment. I think you have two ways to go with him, either tech up the hammer or make it mystical.

If you want it to look mystical, I recommend using some stwisted wire around the characters hands and hammer (similar to how you make barbed wire at 28mm scale) and paint the wire like lightening/power weapons.

Commissar Molotov
01-02-2009, 02:21
I imagine you're thinking of John Henry?

I'm actually planning just to leave it as a normal hammer, the idea being that he's a punk kid. He's one of the Challengers, who'd probably be the X-Men equivalent in this universe, being quite politically active and attempting to raise awareness for Metahuman rights.

Easy E
01-02-2009, 04:58
That's the guy.

Will the Challengers be meta-humans?

Commissar Molotov
01-02-2009, 05:15
Yes, the Challengers are going to be metahuman mutants. They're led by a Charles Xavier-esque character who is more akin to Malcolm X than Martin Luther King - he's an agitator, trying to raise awareness of the mutant's lot and to challenge peoples' viewpoints. The Challengers will cross paths with the Paragons - they're not "evil" or "villains" but there will be some conflict! :)

Commissar Molotov
01-02-2009, 22:27
My order from Hasslefree came today! I'll get some pictures up tomorrow.

Commissar Molotov
02-02-2009, 00:12
I have some new pictures; these are all models from Hasslefree Miniatures (www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk) aside from one Heroclix model.

This is the Blackbird, a dark avenger stalking the streets of Patriot City:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Blackbird-0001.jpg
(Made from Hasslefree's Dionne (B) (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=817), unconverted because I like the model a great deal.)

This is Corona, one of the first character concepts I came up with, a long time ago:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Corona-0001.jpg
(Made from Hasslefree's Summer (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=1578), with her arms bent. The pom-poms are going to be re-shaped slightly and re-sculpted to become flaming balls of energy.)

Next, Goliath:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0001.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0002.jpg
(This guy is made from Hasslefree's Wolf (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=154). I'm in the process of turning him from a Barbarian into a super-hero - which due to the nature of spandex, is relatively easy. I'm going to be removing the sword and replacing it with a street-sign - or a lamp-post - that he's pulled from the ground to bludgeon the villains.)

Commissar Molotov
02-02-2009, 00:14
Here's Savage:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Savage-0001.jpg
(This guy is based off Hasslefree's Harby (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=980) with a variant head from the 'Wolf' miniature.)

The Shield Maiden:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0001.jpg
(She's Hasslefree's Jo (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=155). At the moment I've just sculpted some boot-cuffs onto her boots to make her a bit more superhero-esque, but I want to take the feather out of her hair.)

Lastly, the Spectre, who was probably the second hero concept I had:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Spectre-0001.jpg
(This model is a Heroclix Doctor Doom, who stands a bit taller than just about everything else. Which is fitting for this character, actually.)

Commissar Molotov
02-02-2009, 08:42
An update! My camera always takes better pictures in daylight.

Started work on turning Corona's pom-poms into balls of energy:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Corona-0002.jpg

I've taken the feather out of Shield Maiden's hair:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0002.jpg

And I've glued Savage together:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Savage-0002.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Savage-0003.jpg

Commissar Molotov
02-02-2009, 11:10
No love for superheroes today, then! Here's some further progress.

This is Revenant, made from Hasslefree's Baker (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=985).
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Revenant-001.jpg

As I said earlier, I'm trying to give the Challengers a sort of 'jumped-up punk' look, and here's where I stand with them at the moment:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Challengers-001.jpg
(From left to right we have Revenant, Corona, and the hammer-guy-who-hasn't-got-a-name-yet.)

Here's the starting line-up of the Paragons: Goliath, Shield Maiden, X-Ray and Thunderbolt:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Paragons-0003.jpg

Also, here's 'Tombstone', made from Hasslefree's Narg the Torturer (http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=1602):
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Tombstone-0001.jpg

El-Diablo
02-02-2009, 11:49
Nice little line up so far Mol, though i'd be very tempted to turn 'Tombstone' into the Juggernaught, ala Xmen.

Have you made any progress on finding a rule set?

Commissar Molotov
02-02-2009, 11:53
I've found a rules-set, I just can't afford it right now due to unforeseen money problems. I'm probably going to have to ebay some of my models/books, unfortunately.

I've cross-posted these on the ammo bunker, by the way. :)

Heru Talon
02-02-2009, 19:46
I've found a rules-set, I just can't afford it right now due to unforeseen money problems. I'm probably going to have to ebay some of my models/books, unfortunately.

I've cross-posted these on the ammo bunker, by the way. :)
How much are you out on cash?

AtmanAbecedarian
02-02-2009, 20:21
Keeps gettin better and better. I really like Spectre, he makes me think of the Dark Defender character from the second season of Dexter.
Likin how X-ray turned out, has a really ethereal look to him.
As always, keep up the goodness!

doghouse
02-02-2009, 20:31
This is really good, it's always great to see someone breaking out of the box and I think these are fantastic!
I think thunderbolt is my favourite so far, maybe some police and bank robber style minis would be a great addition to these as henchmen and allies.

Brother Muninn
02-02-2009, 20:43
Good looking stuff thus far. Since you've already used one necromunda model for a base have you considered any others? As soon as I saw your eldar/scout conversion I thought about how Spyrers could potentially make a great looking super hero team.

~Muninn

Commissar Molotov
03-02-2009, 02:12
How much are you out on cash?

Hah, well at the moment I have 40 to last me until April 3rd... which is twelve weeks away. Right now I'm just looking for stuff to sell - for example, I'll probably try my copy of Insignium Astartes because I know people would probably want it. :(


Keeps gettin better and better. I really like Spectre, he makes me think of the Dark Defender character from the second season of Dexter.
Likin how X-ray turned out, has a really ethereal look to him.
As always, keep up the goodness!

Thanks! I've undercoated a bunch of the models and the Spectre looks really quite interesting now he's not in the colours of Doom. I think he's got loads of potential.



This is really good.

I can retire now, right? :)


...it's always great to see someone breaking out of the box and I think these are fantastic!
I think thunderbolt is my favourite so far, maybe some police and bank robber style minis would be a great addition to these as henchmen and allies.

I've definitely got a soft spot for Thunderbolt, especially because he was the first one I created. I'm hoping that as the others get painted and join the ranks it'll all start to come alive. I recently got a sent a link to Reme Bostal's terrain blog (http://remibostal.canalblog.com/)... well, a blog with terrain in it. Some really interesting stuff. Made for Heroclix, but the kind of stuff I'd like to make.

I'm going to be painting some Necromunda Orlocks as generic gangers (with the additional bonus of having a painted gang for when my circle next decides to play Necromunda) and some police might well be very cool indeed. Thanks for the idea!


Good looking stuff thus far. Since you've already used one necromunda model for a base have you considered any others? As soon as I saw your eldar/scout conversion I thought about how Spyrers could potentially make a great looking super hero team.

~Muninn

I've definitely given thought to some spyrers. The Orrus would make a good Iron Man-esque character, the Yeld could be two very different characters depending on whether you use the wings or not (or even made your own jetpack), and the Malcadon could be a cool (but incredibly dark) Spider-man sort of type. I don't really like the Jakaras, though!

[sgt.Harris](voltarian)
03-02-2009, 10:42
looks good, for my version of this me and my friend are doing , i might try some hasslefree and also other companies!


but im liking the concept of your characters and the game its awesome!

Commissar Molotov
03-02-2009, 10:58
Sounds good! I left Leicester just before the snows swept in on Sunday and so I've been able to get some work done. I've assembled most of another Atlantean last night and hopefully there'll be some painting soon. Stay tuned!

Heru Talon
03-02-2009, 15:10
Hah, well at the moment I have 40 to last me until April 3rd... which is twelve weeks away. Right now I'm just looking for stuff to sell - for example, I'll probably try my copy of Insignium Astartes because I know people would probably want it. :(
Photocopy it before you sell it. ;)

Commissar Molotov
03-02-2009, 21:27
Well, they're up now on ebay so we'll see. At the moment I'm not selling IA, but I've put up Codex: Chaos, Codex: Tyranids (2E) and Codex: Sisters of Battle. I'm considering putting up Codex: Imperialis/Wargear, among others. We'll see.

Regardless, this is about heroes!

The Spectre undercoated:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Spectre-0002.jpg

Sbield Maiden in the process of being painted (lots, LOTS more to do):

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0003.jpg

Goliath, half-way through his converting:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0003.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0004.jpg

I'm actually setting a competition of sorts. The person who can suggest the best super-suit for Goliath will get their design painted!

Commissar Molotov
03-02-2009, 21:30
Next, three members of the Marvels, Patriot City's superhero team from the 1940s. These three models are all converted heroclix; they aren't painted yet.

Centurion; I'm considering giving him a Chaos Warrior helmet in a sort of Doctor Fate style:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Centurion-0001.jpg

Flamestorm:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Flamestorm-0001.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Flamestorm-0002.jpg

Bluejay:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Bluejay-0001.jpg

Geckilian
03-02-2009, 22:32
Nice work there, you're certainly building up a fair few supers and mildly putting my lack of updates to shame, heh. I'm still only focusing on my supervillain team Cultured Clash, so not quite as diverse as your lot.

Bummer about the financial situation, though at least SuperSystem is a relatively inexpensive ruleset. I'll be continuing to watch this plog to see how everything turns out.

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 04:06
Thanks! I guess I'm having the mad rush now so that I can introduce the characters as-and-when circumstances demand. Pretty soon I need to go back to my Orks and get stuff done.

Still, here's a second version of Centurion:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Centurion-0002.jpg

Filthy O'Bedlam
04-02-2009, 04:41
Don't know why, but this thread makes me extremely happy. Keep up the good work.

Cheers, Filthy

AtmanAbecedarian
04-02-2009, 05:33
I like Centurion with the helm...but it is Flamestorm who catched my eye immediately. Love it. Keep going with this stuff man!

Ghod
04-02-2009, 06:27
Good to see something different and you have made a fine start on the supers.

Hope to see more...

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 10:21
Don't know why, but this thread makes me extremely happy. Keep up the good work.

Cheers, Filthy

Cheers! Hopefully I won't disappoint.


I like Centurion with the helm...but it is Flamestorm who catched my eye immediately. Love it. Keep going with this stuff man!

Thanks! People seem to like Flamestorm. He started out as a heroclix model of Triton (link here (http://www.wizkidsgames.com/images/figures/Rotating/HMSI/HMSI_037.jpg)) but ended up like this. Once he's repainted I reckon he should turn out quite cool.



Good to see something different and you have made a fine start on the supers.

Hope to see more...

Well, here goes! Tiberius got back to me with these photoshops of Goliath:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0004-color.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/belt.jpg

And Nick's bought the supersystem rules! Huzzah! So I've spent the morning looking through them and I'm due to start writing up some characters soon.

Raellos
04-02-2009, 12:29
Goliath looks amazing! Very dynamic. Might I suggest making whatever he's holding look more like a makeshift weapon, like a pipe, or suchlike?

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 12:33
Raellos: Thanks for the comment! The original model is a Barbarian called 'Wolf' by Hasslefree miniatures. The model comes with a sword held in two hands. We've taken the sword out and at the moment there's a hole drilled through both hands into which we've put a piece of brass rod as a placeholder. I've given some though to having him wield a streetlight/lamp-post or a road sign, but it's just a case of converting it. If not, I'd just have it as a lead pipe, slightly bent where he's klonked someone. I do like the idea of him having ripped something out of the road to lay into a villain, though - it makes me think of this renegade Ogryn (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Chaos/Ogryn/og2.jpg).

Raellos
04-02-2009, 13:35
I'm the proud owner of that renegade ogryn; I have not painted it yet though, half because I'm saving it for a reward, half because it's a bit intimidating!

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 13:56
You are lucky! Forgeworld Renegades are lovely models, and it's one of the (many) armies on my "I'd love to start if I could" list.

Evidence of progress:

Undercoated Goliath:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0005.jpg

Undercoated Marvels (three of the five, anyway - here we have Flamestorm, Centurion and Bluejay - I'm just missing Ox and Greyhound):
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Marvels-0001.jpg

Here's the Atlantean next to another Atlantean - his brother and a General in the Atlantean armies.
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0005.jpg

The shaft will be turned into a trident as soon as I can source a decent one. I'm also going to be resculpting the hands. The brother is much older than the Atlantean, and has a number of differences. I had thought that he was perhaps a different caste - I've explored ideas of the Atlanteans being a caste race. Anyway, he was made with a Termagaunt head rather than a Genestealer head so his head is a little sleeker and narrower, with a number of armoured plates.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0006.jpg

I realise he needs a lot more work but it showcases some of my ideas.

Raellos
04-02-2009, 14:02
I'd have a hard time justifying the cost of FW renegades had I not bought a heap second hand off of Catbarf. They really are worth it though, and they'd be great to complement your CSMs in the other thread.

But, back to your stuff; Centurion looks great! Though I can't help thinking he's shaking his fist after a foiled plan.

"Damn you Paragons!"

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 14:13
Yeah, it's a little tricky. Now he's undercoated he looks very much like Magneto. He is starting to look more like a villain, whereas Centurion the character is meant to be the leader of the Marvels (the 1940s super-team in Patriot City). I'm torn - I could either paint him up as Centurion and hope the ol' red-white-and-blue make him look more heroic, or I can use the model for a villain and search for something a little more 'Captain America' for Centurion.

Raellos
04-02-2009, 14:43
It's probably the helmet and the dark colour, but once you paint him he should be ok.

[sgt.Harris](voltarian)
04-02-2009, 15:45
i reckon he will look great in red white and blue and i also think a shield in his right arm would also look pretty cool

AtmanAbecedarian
04-02-2009, 16:08
Oh man, Goliath is gonna be somthin beastly.
I can't wait to see how Flamestorm turns out, I can completely understand why hes got a strop rep here. The GSed flames are awsome!
Also diggin the Atlanteans, they continue to be one of my personal favorite conversions. I may have to jack your conversion concept for a Cthonic I-dunno-what-yet for my Reaverkin.
I really like your clever use of mini ranges. You really have a talent for givin these guys a sense of personality and character. 5-stars for you.

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 20:14
It's probably the helmet and the dark colour, but once you paint him he should be ok.

I'm hoping so!


(voltarian);3260644']i reckon he will look great in red white and blue and i also think a shield in his right arm would also look pretty cool

Well, I did somewhat think of The Statesman (http://motusg.bravehost.com/myPictures/Statesman.png), the 'mascot' for City of Heroes - he has a somewhat similar helmet but doesn't come across as a villain.


Oh man, Goliath is gonna be somthin beastly.
I can't wait to see how Flamestorm turns out, I can completely understand why hes got a strop rep here. The GSed flames are awsome!
Also diggin the Atlanteans, they continue to be one of my personal favorite conversions. I may have to jack your conversion concept for a Cthonic I-dunno-what-yet for my Reaverkin.
I really like your clever use of mini ranges. You really have a talent for givin these guys a sense of personality and character. 5-stars for you.

Well, that's probably the best hobby-related compliment I've ever received! Thank you.

Nick came round and he got some work done on Shield Maiden:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0004.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0005.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0006.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Shield-Maiden-0007.jpg

Commissar Molotov
04-02-2009, 20:15
And here's a (dodgy late-night) photograph of the Paragons as they stand:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Paragons-0004.jpg

[sgt.Harris](voltarian)
04-02-2009, 20:45
looks good , the statesman would be awesome for the colourscheme of centurion and i was wandering, do you play the game as i have it but i never got the CD key :p




(BTW im not asking you for the CD key i was saying that there wasnt one in my box set)

Commissar Molotov
05-02-2009, 04:01
I played City of Heroes for the free thirty day trial but I didn't pay to continue. I thought it was a pretty decent game, though.

Not much model progress at the moment, though I've been working on character stats so that I can try some test games. I've also brought my friend Darren in on the project - he tends to be our scenery-maker, so I've shown him the work of Remi Bostal (http://remibostal.canalblog.com/) and also this nifty site (http://artofk.home.comcast.net/~artofk/HeroBuilding.htm).

Taarnak
05-02-2009, 13:25
Lots of awesome stuff here. (http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/)

It is paper terrain, yes. However, it is extremely well designed and holds up well to gaming. Worldworks is quality stuff.

Thanks for the link to Remi Bostal's work. I hadn't seen it before and it is very, very good.

~Eric

Commissar Molotov
05-02-2009, 13:47
Nifty, thanks. Darren was talking about this sort of stuff yesterday. I'm interested in scenery insofar as the suspension of disbelief. But I'm not super keen on spending huge amounts on money on scenery - at least, not yet!

Deus Ruinus
05-02-2009, 18:09
some interesting super heros..and villains. im likening it, including the colours you chose for each character

NelZord
05-02-2009, 18:11
YAY warhammer super heroes!! Kool stuff dude keep it up :D

Commissar Molotov
07-02-2009, 10:26
@ Deus Ruinus, Nelzord: Thanks, guys!

I've not done too much related to the Paragons in recent days. Still, here's a WIP picture of Goliath:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Goliath-0006.jpg

The yellow is several thinned coats of Iyanden Darksun.

Here's some GS-work on the Atlanteans:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0007.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0008.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Atlantean-0009.jpg

Raellos
07-02-2009, 13:04
Goliath makes me want to play a D20 Modern campaign (I think it's the visual style of the head in particular, reminds me of the art in the book).

Problem is only two of us are nerd enough. It'd be a bit sad me DMing one person...

Commissar Molotov
08-02-2009, 06:51
I guess I can see what you mean - I think he's supposed to be similar to Conan the Barbarian. And it sounds like you have to corrupt some of your friends!

Here's a small update showing that Thunderbolt's upgraded his suit a little. It now features micromissile launchers on the shoulders that can stun and entrap enemies (represented by the entangle power.) It's made from a Battlefleet Gothic Cruiser turret.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0010.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Thunderbolt-0011.jpg

Commissar Molotov
19-02-2009, 16:13
Bit of a diverse update this time. Darren got back to me and he's put together these first two buildings out of cardboard and paper. They're pretty decent for our use, in that they're enough for us to suspend our disbelief and believe we're fighting in a city.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Building-001.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Building-002.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Building-003.jpg

I've also bought this model:
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/DR_DR7_1.jpg

It's the "Deadly Gamesman" from Black Scorpion Miniatures (http://www.blackscorpionminiatures.com). I'm intending to use it as a Riddler-esque villain called "The Gamesmaster" who will plot fiendish plots and generally try to get in the players' way.

Dazz1286
20-02-2009, 11:17
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http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/Building-002.jpg
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In the corner of this image you can also see the start to the golden hotel I am making. It is really easy to print things out and stick in on boxes that I have gone a bit crazy with it. Almost all the cereal in my house is now sitting bags in the cupboard becasues I've stolen all the boxes.

Commissar Molotov
20-02-2009, 13:44
Heh, nice. I'm looking forward to seeing it completed. I'm also giving some thought as to how much terrain we need for a 4x4 table. After all, if we have too much terrain the game would be difficult to play. I've been looking at some of Reme Bostal's stuff:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/7451820.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/7451836.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/8194970.jpg

It makes me consider what terrain we could/should use. Obviously stuff that's interchangeable or modular would benefit us so that we're not constantly fighting over the same stretch of Patriot City. If we get some of Nick's 40k trees we can have areas of parkland and the like, which is cool. Perhaps if instead of going high we could have some two/three storey tall buildings which are long, so we've got blocks of apartments or the like, and we can have alleyways and the like. I'm not sure. It'd be cool if you could sketch up some designs?

Easy E
27-11-2009, 19:00
Any updates on this awesome log or has INQ28 taken over your soul?

Commissar Molotov
03-12-2009, 00:03
Hey; nice to see this thread surfacing. I've had the Paragons on my mind recently... inq28 has definitely taken up a lot of my time but I will hopefully be returning to Patriot City in the new year!

Classically Drained
10-12-2009, 17:26
I'm trying to start a 28mm roleplaying game based on my own superhero universe. I hope you do come back to this, if for no other reason that Thunderbolt and X-Ray! are good inspiration for my players: most of them only collect GW stuff and were complaining about making characters!

Commissar Molotov
17-12-2009, 19:42
Hey, I'm always surprised when this thread resurfaces, but it's clear that something about superheroes excites the little kid in all of us! Thank you for your post, CD - it's certainly inspired me to try to work a bit more on the PARAGONS project.

As a result, I've revitalised my blog at http://patriot-city-paragons.blogspot.com/ and whilst initially it'll be a retrospective gathering up my work, that's good too as it lets me slip back into the superhero mood slowly!

Classically Drained
22-12-2009, 16:19
I'll be checking that blog out as soon as I'm home...


... curse these work computers!

leonmallett
24-12-2009, 14:43
I enjoyed reading through the thread and have started watching the blog. Great project - it looks like lots of fun, and you have created some tremendous conversions.

Commissar Molotov
04-06-2010, 13:58
Now, I've been immersed for a while in the Pulp City game. (Link here (http://pulp-city.com/)). The game disappoints me because it doesn't have any facility for creating generic characters, but the models are brilliant. I've ordered a bunch, and I'm going to be making a "Paragons Mk. 2" to continue this project.

Thunderbolt was the first character we created, and whilst I loved the idea, it suffered somewhat from fact that, because it was built around a plastic Eldar, it ended up looking very squat and short compared to some of the other models that we used. As a result, I've been looking at using the Pulp City model Nuclear Jones as the basis for a conversion.

My Pulp Miniatures arrived today - they were a bit of a mixed bag, really - they're very 'fine' models. By that I mean that they're very nice models indeed, but they're also "realistically" scaled, making some of them smaller than the GW models I was using. That said, they ought to work alongside models from manufacturers like Heresy and Hasslefree.


http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/0001Comparison.png

This image shows the old Thunderbolt alongside Pulp City's "Nuclear Jones", the model I've selected to replace him. As I mentioned earlier, he was intended to have a headswap with the donation from The Gentleman, but once I got the models together I saw that the Gentleman's head was just a touch too big for the Nuclear Jones model.

I've gone a different direction now, cutting the head off the "Doctor Mercury" model and transplanting it. It's perhaps a little too small, but that perhaps works, because I was hoping to greenstuff a faceplate onto it. (I was thinking, ironically, of using Apologist's MkII Crusade helmet guide (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3140065&postcount=307) as a basis)

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/0002Thunderbolt.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/PARAGONS/0003Thunderbolt2.jpg