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ChaplainVarnus
03-02-2009, 14:59
Would anyone really, really like to see GW release a new army of whatever you wanted? As in, make an idea for an army and they'd make it. I'd really like to see an army of Cat Warriors, with instead of vehicles had giant Cats armed like the Brumak (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5997/bru20pa1.jpg) from Gears of War 2.
Another idea is an army of shapeshifters with random stats, allowing you to buy any models you want (Like a Carnifex alongside SoB in a Trukk).

Any ideas?

IronNerd
03-02-2009, 15:07
As much as I like the idea of new armies, GW can't keep up with the ones we have now. So no, I'd rather they leave new armies out of it and focus on the ones we already know and love.

genestealer_baldric
03-02-2009, 15:15
they cant keep up with these current armies if they keep firing all there manufacturing teams :(

i would rather they devlope current armies that recive little enough love as it is, dark eldar, space wolves, etc.. or if they do bring new ones in may be kill off some other ones(hopefully the necrons :) ), as long as they dont use the excuse of the "tyranids did it again"

laudarkul
03-02-2009, 15:29
You have to agree that GW must first at all to realign all the armies on the same level (or at least partial)...Than maybe they could think to new armies, but they should begin with Mechanicus and after that a new army/new fluff.

javgoro
03-02-2009, 15:35
First they should consolidate what they have, then weŽll see.

SPYDER68
03-02-2009, 15:40
If they would have a seperate team for apoc.. and release codex's as fast as fantasy can with new models.. new armies would be welcome..

but then again.. we have dark eldar who has NEVER been redone since first release.. and marines are on their 3rd - 5th codex.. i lost count..

Laser guided fanatic
03-02-2009, 15:47
I would like a new army to happen but we all know it would be designed to make 12 year olds go "mummy i want that" so lots of gun porn etc. No fluff in the codex (which tbh i'm all for, i can't stand, i just feel ripped of when there is only 10 useful pages in a codex).

I can imagine them doing this with the imperial guard just renaming the codex Call of Duty: Future Warfare 40k.

ozzyboy
03-02-2009, 16:13
Yea, i was thinking about this the other day, but people are right. Games Workshop cant keep up with the armies they have, let alone a new one. Also, I think that Laser is right. it'd be solely to bring in more profits (which is understandable) but wouldn't advance the the setting.

BaronDG
03-02-2009, 16:18
New? Not really, but there are several existing themes that could be developed to army lists. And I want a zombie army. Or several...

thenamelessdead
03-02-2009, 16:23
They should probably ditch one and start keeping the main armies up to date. And stop making so many space marines codices.

Refyougee
03-02-2009, 16:43
I think a "Cat people" army would attract too many furries to the game; not to mention that some armies have not been updated in over half a decade.

Just by updating a Codex they bring sales up because they invariably "break" one or two of the units, so it would be great if they did that a bit more often because we would benefit as well.

Doppleskanger
03-02-2009, 16:49
I would love to see two new armies, Adeptus Mechanicus and one more Xenos army, but one that's an interesting new sci fi theme not an old world in space thiing.

However it is more important to finish updating all the existing lists, which in fairness isn't that far off now, and sorting out the whole GK/SoB/
Inquisition thing

Lord Damocles
03-02-2009, 16:51
I don't want to see any new full armies - GW hasn't updated three of my armies for almost a decade as it is.

I wouldn't mind 'Raiders' lists for a couple of the minor races though...

incarna
03-02-2009, 17:10
I think the game would be much better served if GW focused exclusively on the armies it already has in production. I feel the Tau, being an empire of a wide variety of species, would make an excellent catch-all for any additional alien types GW would like to introduce.

Pinball wizard!
03-02-2009, 17:18
Forget cat people what about crab people!

But seriously we need to focus more on exsisting armies so that they don't suck as much.

Johnnyfrej
03-02-2009, 17:35
I think a "Cat people" army would attract too many furries to the game
Exactly! It's a totally untapped market!

Mad Jack Deacon
03-02-2009, 17:40
Couple of things that I think would make sense (at least to me):

1. Marines consolidated into one book. I like the traits system, and with a bit of work you can get almost all the armies to fit. Yes, even the Wolves, BA and DA.

2. Same thing for the Eldar. The current 'dex is definitely a step in the right direction. In addition to craftworld, you have outcast, dark kin, and exodite. After all, it probably would be a cold day in hell before the craftworld eldar allied against their dark kin.

3. Same thing for Chaos. CSM and Demons all in one book. Should include all flavors from a cultist/traitor guard army to the legions to the demonic horde.

By doing these three things, GW would reduce 9 codices to 3. Work smarter not harder. Hell, if they really worked it they could write a Codex Imperium that covered SM, IG, and INQ with some great flavor thrown in here and there like pressed gangers and Arbites.

THEN they'd have time to get creative with new races.

AngryAngel
03-02-2009, 17:55
I would absolutely "Hate" a new army to come out currently. As others have said and I agree with they have plenty currently and can't keep up with those as is. Maybe if that situation changes, maybe then I'll say it would be cool, but not now.

Edit: Though Cat or Crab or Cat-Crab people would be nice. I think bringing furries to the game would be nice. Takes all kinds ya know.

Ubermensch Commander
03-02-2009, 19:42
I do not want any new armies out before addressing the existing armies in a satisfying way.
Also, Cat people is all fine and good, matter of fact that has the potential to be really fricking cool, but there already exists armies in the existing fluff that could stand to be created as a "new" army. Adeptus mechanicus, for example.

isidril93
03-02-2009, 20:08
Couple of things that I think would make sense (at least to me):

1. Marines consolidated into one book. I like the traits system, and with a bit of work you can get almost all the armies to fit. Yes, even the Wolves, BA and DA.

2. Same thing for the Eldar. The current 'dex is definitely a step in the right direction. In addition to craftworld, you have outcast, dark kin, and exodite. After all, it probably would be a cold day in hell before the craftworld eldar allied against their dark kin.

3. Same thing for Chaos. CSM and Demons all in one book. Should include all flavors from a cultist/traitor guard army to the legions to the demonic horde.

By doing these three things, GW would reduce 9 codices to 3. Work smarter not harder. Hell, if they really worked it they could write a Codex Imperium that covered SM, IG, and INQ with some great flavor thrown in here and there like pressed gangers and Arbites.

THEN they'd have time to get creative with new races.

nah...i love my black templars
dont make me use a...codex : space marines book *shiver*

Logarithm Udgaur
03-02-2009, 20:28
But Crab People will attract shellies to the game ::Shudder::

I think new armies would be cool in the old CA style, that way people that want to play them can, and everyone else can forget they exist.

Lord Damocles
03-02-2009, 20:36
that way people that want to play them can, and everyone else can forget they exist.
Like Dark Eldar.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Magelite
03-02-2009, 20:40
I'd like to see a faction consisting of two alien races, not necessarily allies like the Tau and Kroot, but more like a reversal of the Orks and Gretchin; little, smart but weak aliens leading squads of larger, stronger but stupider alien slaves.

Pyriel
03-02-2009, 20:49
thing is,current races have VERY narrow playstyles.

you have MEQ (chaos marines, all marine chapters), "hard-armoured infantry style".
you have the alien-esque Tyrannids, and Orks, as close combat hordes.Demons also have similar characteristics playwise, despite their fewer numbers.
you have Necrons (MEQ , but more shooty-oriented, and cant really play all-mechanized).
you have Eldar and Tau, skimmer armies.
you have Guard, which at this point doesn't really have a focus (despite the fact that i frequently play as IG), since it's not really that shooty (trust me, it's not) but just a mix of horde with different elements.

so basically, you have skimmer-shooty, MEQ of different types, and close combat-and perhaps Guard horde. thats just what you have.

what if i want to play an non-MEQ mechanized army?sort of like Eldar in tanks. Seriously; i have that problem.as a playstyle, i would TOTALLY play eldar if their tanks had tracks. perhaps i'd play sisters if they didn't have that generic 3+ save that bores me and screams "just play marines, don't kid yourself".

in the same way, i understand ppl asking for new armies.

Col. Tartleton
03-02-2009, 21:10
My theory though far fetched is thus:

GW made 5th edition both as a money maker and a point to finish all codices within reason. There will still be some better armies than others, but all armies will become effective to the rule set.

6th edition and beyond will be a physical core book, and down loadable codices. It will in fact be less work on their part, as 1 they will be able to be updated at will. New units may be added and everything from rules to point costs may be changed. And sure they won't be getting money for the codices, but as they have said time and again, they're a model company, not a rule company. So for the low cost of updating rules (that could be done for free by players if it mattered to them, there are plenty of qualified players who could do the job with the consensus of a forum (another thing they should bring back, in order to keep it updated.) Instead the players will spend their greenbacks on the very models that GW confesses to being the purpose of the operation. No one is going to play the game and think hmm since i didn't have to pay for the codex that saves me 20 some dollars. Why I can use that for something not warhammer related. Obviously if they were previously going to spend the cash on the codex they'll buy a few models with it.

GW fails to realize that its addicting to its core group and that new players won't in the long haul necessarily pay them as much. Another reason that spam armies should be made to be effective. Infantry IG should be made attractive because twenty guardsmen cost as much as space marines money wise but are only 2/3 the point cost. Also horde armies unlike meqs are never finished. A lot of people build a 2000 point list and stop with marines and then just coast and play or perhaps buy the new and shiny thing. With IG a player never stops, they just add a new platoon, a new company, battalion... onto their collection. Same with orks, same with gaunt focused nids, same with a lot of armies. And if not, players will probably have multiple armies to cater to, newbies are kids who are generally strapped to afford one and have their parental pay for it.

Sure gullible kids make good 1 shot buyers. New players are likely to buy a box or two and the codex and paint and you never see them again. They realize they have to assemble and paint the pieces. Its a model related army, its as much about modeling as playing. If you don't like making thing with your hands play a video game, its cheaper...

Back on topic, once (if) GW converts to online codices, they will be able to have a group of inner circle non executives working on keeping the rules up to date which will 1 keep things more balanced which frees up the main people to develop the black library into being effective (firing bad authors and finding new blood who are fluff nazi players on the side) updating the model lines, and introducing new races that will then be updated by the free suckers and this will draw customers. Models long run make more cash then books imo.

So in the future I see that GW will be able to drop a new race idea, put out an online codex, drop half a model line, then over time make new models through a rotation that will also adapt with the rules being updated. Maybe I'm looking too far though, that's probably Xth addition im talking about the way the top runs things :rolleyes:

TheMartyr451
03-02-2009, 22:08
Firstly I'd like to see the current armies all revamped and whatnot. After that, maybe Adeptus Mechanicus and Ordo Xenos.