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tacoo
05-02-2009, 00:22
i was thinking of getting some ig stuff and mabey amkin and army out of that because from what i read it seems that ig is about hordes of guardsmen running towards(and sometimes away) from the enemy army to distract them while the tanks come p and blast chunks out of them, i was woindering tho how they played in tabletop because from what i hare they arent that good at this moment and usually dont last 2 long in anygame,. my friends after they saw me make a lift would probably adjust the whole kp thing for me since i keep hearing how they just loose in the first turn in missins involving that. if i got an army id probably get this of what i saw of ebay.

There is 1 Super Heavy Baneblade Tank
1 Leman Russ Battle Tank
1 Leman Russ Demolisher
2 Basilisks
1 Cadian pattern Sentinel
1 squad of Stormtroopers with sergeant, flamethrower, and plasma gun
1 heavy weapons squad with 2 heavy bolters, 1 autocannon, and missle launcher
4 squads of cadians with sergeants, assualt weapons, and comm soldiers
1 squad of 4 cadian snipers
1 command squad with general, medic, meltagun, and veteran soldier with shotgun
1 techpriest with with a gun servitor and technical servitor
1 Imperial Guard Codex
1 figure carrying case capable of carrying entire army (except the tanks)
2 cases with 42 die between them
current bid $155

do you think this sounds nice for starting since it takes care of most of my needs. of anything it sounds like i might need more guards men and thats it, but iv never even seen ig get used so im not too sure if i want to get this or also i saw a nice necron army stuff, this is what follows

necron army on ebay
1 DECEIVER
3 NECRON LORDS
1 NECRON LORD DESTROYER BODY
9 DESTROYERS
3 HEAVY DESTROYERS
11 FLAYED ONES
68 NECRON WARRIORS
7 SCARAB SWARMS
10 IMMORTALS ONE STILL IN THE PACKAGE
11 PARIAHS 2 STILL IN PACKAGE
2 TOMB SPYDERS
7 WRAITHS
2 MONOLITHS
CASE
current bid also $155
iv been playing for about 2 months now with mostly necrons, i alrdy have some models and a monolith but i was starting to like what i head about ig in reading and stuff, but i dont want to waste money on stuff i might not like. :confused:

Lord Raneus
05-02-2009, 00:31
I would say get Guard. Why?
Well, first off, they're getting a new codex and new support that will most likely make them very strong contenders in a couple of months.

Second, Necrons are, frankly, pretty boring. The army does basically one or two things well, while Guard are the epitome of free choice in 40k; you can have everything from a tank company to an elite group of armored infantry to waves of drugged-up conscripts.

In short, Guard are the way to go.

tacoo
05-02-2009, 01:03
if i get guard tho, what do they have to counter outflanking genesteelers and if i do get ig, what do you think i should buy next after that, if i win the auction that is (hopefully, still waiting on parents taxereturn so i get birthday money)

jason_sation
05-02-2009, 01:06
That seems like a really good deal on those guard!

tacoo
05-02-2009, 01:15
i know i nearly fainted when i saw there was a bane blade there,

STAY AWAY, MY FIND :evilgrin:

tacoo
05-02-2009, 01:18
uggh i wish i had more money so i could just bid on both, i mean all those metal models in the necrons saves me bout a month of yellin, anger, depression, drinking, reabilitation, then more anger, (my friend built a tyrant once and since then a favorite saying si f*ckin tyrant!!, mean while i only had to do a necron lord and a conversion for a destroyer lord)

Norsehawk
05-02-2009, 01:19
I would go with the Guard, they are getting a codex update pretty soon. Be aware that you might end up having to buy more guardsmen since they are probably getting a price trimming in the next codex.

Necrons, right now are really having some issues with the new rules in 5th edition, they are getting destroyed in melee combat due to them being fearless (I think, i'm not too big on the crons)

tacoo
05-02-2009, 01:20
there not fearless, that might be an upgrade i think, i mean make a few armour saves instid of watching them get nuked in a sweeping advance wouold make my cry in joy

Valharik
05-02-2009, 01:28
Go necrons. There are too many guard lovers out there, but necrons need a lot more love. :D

tacoo
05-02-2009, 01:31
can any1 tell me how many models i might be gettin, i guess the ig squads are around normal, what ever that is.

CrownAxe
05-02-2009, 01:44
I would go with the Guard, they are getting a codex update pretty soon. Be aware that you might end up having to buy more guardsmen since they are probably getting a price trimming in the next codex.

Necrons, right now are really having some issues with the new rules in 5th edition, they are getting destroyed in melee combat due to them being fearless (I think, i'm not too big on the crons)


there not fearless, that might be an upgrade i think, i mean make a few armour saves instid of watching them get nuked in a sweeping advance wouold make my cry in joy

Necrons don't have fearless and can't get fearless. the only necrosn with fearless AREN'T necrons so won't have WBB

Lord Raneus
05-02-2009, 02:03
They're getting destroyed because they are mediocre at combat and do not have ATSKNF.
Apparently what happens is that 'crons lose combat by 3-4 to assault specialists, unlike Marines they can be Sweeping Advanced and since they are so expensive with such low initiative they get wiped.

This is what I think people are talking about, anyways.

To counter stuff like outflanking genestealers you could always bust out a hellhound or something, I imagine. Or just shoot them more. :P

tacoo
05-02-2009, 02:16
after i get this i should have about $120 left, what should i get after this with that moneyy

tacoo
05-02-2009, 02:35
i was just lookin at ig codex and i dont really under stand, in a basic game i have to have 2 commanders in order to got 2 troop choices or can i get like command squad, get the infantry platoon from that then get a conscript platoon, armoury fist squad or what?

tacoo
05-02-2009, 03:14
never mind i think i understand how it works now

Lord Raneus
05-02-2009, 03:47
You're looking fairly solid on tanks, I personally would recommend maybe investing in another good-sized platoon of IG infantry, 4 squads isn't really enough.

senorcardgage
05-02-2009, 03:48
Go for the guard!

tacoo
05-02-2009, 04:06
if i read right, if i only have 1 command squad i can only have 1 platoon, right? and if i get support i can then get 1 conscript platoon, right? and no matter if i just got 1 platoon or 100, i can always get armoured fist right? thats my current questions. and i figured i will but the ig stuff so i posted sumtin in the armylist for help makin an army list of 1500 pts with this stuff. too bad i cant use a baneblade in 1500 :cries:

tacoo
05-02-2009, 04:08
i just realised ima be :mad: if i cant get this tomorror due to something like take return coming in or sumtin wierd happens on ebay!!!!

Stormhammers
05-02-2009, 04:14
I vote guard, they are just made of pure awesome. IG is more of a project, and they allow for much more customization.

You can have one platoon as a troop choice, and with that, you can also get a consript platoon. You can also have one armored fist squad per inf platoon, so long as you have the slots. You have one command squad as your HQ and you can get 10 more cadians and make two platoon command squads, and have two platoons on 2 squads.

tacoo
05-02-2009, 04:29
im confused, i dont have the codex yet as it comes with the deal but i looked at it breifly but i thought i only saw officer ppl in the actual command squad, i didnt even see a platon command squad unless thats the hq choice

Stormhammers
05-02-2009, 05:01
the platoon command squad is part of the inf platoons. its usually a junior officer, but it has most all the options of the command squad (save the support squads) the platoon command is a troop choice

Raxmei
05-02-2009, 08:43
Command squads confuse a lot of people. First, your army as a whole needs one command squad. Then each infantry platoon needs one command squad of its own.

The command squad in charge of the whole army has the full range of options in the codex entry for command squads. It is the only command squad that can take a standard bearer, master vox, senior or heroic senior officer, and support squads (fire support, antitank, special weapon, sentinel, as detailed in the command squad entry). Infantry platoon command squads must be led by a junior officer, and must be bought with 2-5 infantry squads.

Unless you use the Grenadiers doctrine your army must include at least one infantry platoon. Each infantry platoon your army has allows you to also have one conscript platoon and one armored fist squad.

In summary: Your HQ has a command squad. Your infantry platoons also have one command squad each.


It is not required for your command squads to be made of models sold as command squads. You just need a model identifiable as an officer and four guardsmen equipped as specified in the command squad codex entry.

tacoo
05-02-2009, 11:13
thanks for the clarification

Sleazy
05-02-2009, 12:38
both look extremely good value. I cant see them ending near those prices.

Like people say, guard offer a lot more customisation. Depends what you want though. Which fluff or look do you prefer?

You could buy that Necron army, sell off a lot of it and still have a viable army. I did something similar. You could look to lose say 28 warriors, the pariahs, a lord or 2, half the destroyers, half the wraiths....

Sell this lot in individual units and you'd make most of your outlay back.

Ubermensch Commander
05-02-2009, 17:22
Go Imp Guard. That way, you and your opponent will not be bored to tears after just a few games.
Also, new Guard codex coming out soon and from what I read that is a sweet deal for Guard stuff there on the ol' E-bay.

laudarkul
05-02-2009, 18:11
Choose what fit's you well. IG will receive a codex in a couple of months, Necron's next year. If you can buy both of them then try them then sell the other one:).

tacoo
05-02-2009, 23:19
ya i placed some bids on the IG and got out bid every time, still 3 hours lfet tho. but then i put a bid on the necrons. if some1 puts a bid on necrons ill see about another bid on ig ( currently $202) and ill go up some but i wont spen over like 215 since i have limited funds. if it exceeds what im willing to bid max there then ill jump back to necrons. just to let you guys know, i alreasy know a good bit bout necrons since i played them last couple months and i got the huge phalanx thing (the more expensive one that comes with a mono) so if i end up getting necrons, it will bring me up to 3 monoliths and i get more destroyers and even immortals (i love destroyers and immortals). if i dont get necron set then you know how good ill be off with ig from what hes sellin.