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Raellos
13-02-2009, 06:21
I'm trying to place my campaign around a large chaos incursion, and I'm wondering how long ago from the current timeline the Gothic War (12th Black Crusade?) was from the current 40k date.

Thanks in advance!

MajorWesJanson
13-02-2009, 06:28
1. 781.M31, beginning of the 1st Black Crusade aka The First Battle of Cadia.
2. 597.M32, beginning of the 2nd Black Crusade a failed attack on defences of Cadia.
3. 909.M32, beginning of the 3rd Black Crusade aka the Host of Tallomine. Daemon Prince Tallomin leads an attack that is crushed by the Space Wolves.
4. 001.M34, beginning of the 4th Black Crusade. Destruction of the Citadel of Kromarch on El'Phanor.
5. 723.M36, beginning of the 5th Black Crusade. Doombreed, a prince of Khorne declares war upon the Adeptus Astartes. The Warhawks and the Venerators are lost.
6. 901.M36, beginning of the 6th Black Crusade unknown events and details.
7. 811.M37, beginning of the 7th Black Crusade aka the Ghost War. The Blood Angels are slaughtered at Mackan.
8. 999.M37, beginning of the 8th Black Crusade unknown events and details.
9. 573.M38, beginning of the 9th Black Crusade - led by a Slaaneshi Champion named "Jihar the Lacerator".
10. 001.M39, beginning of the 10th Black Crusade aka the Conflict of Helica. Iron Warriors fight and defeat Iron Hands at Medusa.
11. 301.M39, beginning of the 11th Black Crusade unknown events and details.
12. 139.M41, beginning of the 12th Black Crusade aka the Gothic War. Abaddon the Despoiler tries to capture the Blackstone Fortresses.
13. 999.M41, beginning of the ongoing 13th Black Crusade. Major attack on the Cadian system.




From Lexicanum

Iracundus
13-02-2009, 06:44
Don't believe everything you read on Lexicanum.

The Gothic War aka 12th Black Crusade began 143.M41. 139.M41 and the years up to 143.M41 were the preluding events laying the foundation for the attack, marked by Abaddon gathering the artifacts to control the Blackstone Fortresses.



The first outright battles of the Gothic War were fought as the year 143.M41 came to a close. p.94 BFG rulebook

Leftenant Gashrog
13-02-2009, 14:58
The first outright battles of the Gothic War were fought as the year 143.M41 came to a close. p.94 BFG rulebook
Of course the previous page says "Many Imperial scholars believe the Gothic War to have started several years before the first invasion fleets actually entered the Gothic Sector." so its not like the Lexicanum entry is without canon precident..

Of course the actual question was "how long ago was it" so the end of the war is also relevant, BFG page 102 puts that as around 160.m41

Raellos
13-02-2009, 17:18
I assume it's still 999.M41?

Anyway, thanks for this. I can place the invasion of my sector during the the Gothic War, which will easily allow me 2/3 centuries for the borders to stabilise, Space Marine chapters to recruit and recover and regiments tithed for the crusade that will be the campaign.

Chaplain Dionitas
13-02-2009, 18:18
As of 5th edition it's practically new years eve 999.9 M41

schoon
14-02-2009, 00:37
Well, let's see here. The confirmed ones I can find are:

781M31 The First Black Crusade. This Chaos incursion became known as the Battle of Cadia.

139M41-160M41 Gothic War. Abaddon leads Black Crusade against the Gothic Sector with the aim of capturing the Blackstone Fortresses. He also utilizes the Planet Killer to spread terror throughout the sector.

139M41 Ninth Black Crusade.

999M41 Thirteenth Black Crusade. Abaddon the Despoiler launches his latest Black Crusade into the Cadian Sector.

Raellos
14-02-2009, 02:12
139M41-160M41 Gothic War. Abaddon leads Black Crusade against the Gothic Sector with the aim of capturing the Blackstone Fortresses. He also utilizes the Planet Killer to spread terror throughout the sector.

139M41 Ninth Black Crusade.


Erm, not too sure about that.

laudarkul
14-02-2009, 07:53
Could you post links/details regarding the sources of information? i just want to have them as a /fav ;).
The Black Crusade of Jihar the Lacerator started on 599.M37 and took place in the area of space call "The Gloom Worlds" full of human mutant population (ogryn, ratlings and so on). This crusade is presented in the " Tactica Imperialis " - A History of the Later Imperial Crusades by Dan Abnett & Andy Hoare.

Vaulkhar
14-02-2009, 10:51
It's worth noting that a Black Crusade is really just the Chaos version of a Waaagh!. Contrary to what Lexicanium states, not all are initiated by Abaddon - he's merely (!) been responsible for 13 of them. If I remember my codices correctly, they're noted as happening once every couple of hundred years, which would put the total at around 40 since the first in late M31