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Stronginthearm
17-02-2009, 23:50
I'm a dwarf player and am considering adding an anvil to my army list, but have a question to throw out there, is the anvil something that is just really cheesy for a dwarf player to take? would value opinions

Harwammer
18-02-2009, 00:06
Normal anvils are okay really, they round off the dwarf army nicely (helps mitigate the dwarfs low M).

What is apparently 'cheesy' is thorek. People will advise you not to take him as he can churn out ancient rune strikes far too 'safely'. Plus many players frown upon the use of special chars (with the exception of daemons it seems :D)

Nicha11
18-02-2009, 00:40
Anvils= fine

Thorek= not so fine.

w3rm
18-02-2009, 00:57
Annoying? Yes
Cheesy? No

What alot of people on Warseer think is if they can't find a way to counter it it is bad. Or they just like to complain :rolleyes:. Yeah maybe that's it....

selone
18-02-2009, 01:28
Anvils= fine

Thorek= not so fine.

This. (10 chars)

larabic
18-02-2009, 02:28
Yeah def, Anvils are okay and def add a whole new dimensional to playing a dwarf army. Not just gun line or get charge and react, allows you to be more proactive, go get 'em!

cutty411
18-02-2009, 02:36
yes! they are

Stronginthearm
18-02-2009, 03:10
I like the 5 no's over the one yes

mistrmoon
18-02-2009, 03:48
yes! they are

....well done..... So have you actually played against/with one?

As mentioned the regular one is actually considered a little underpowered for what it costs. Thorek is another matter...he is a bit of a handful especially against wood elves.

Kerill
18-02-2009, 04:06
Not cheesy (apart from thorek).

DeathStar
18-02-2009, 04:24
thorek, is to good.. 3+ to hit hard with a re-roll.. but anviles are ok... just no thorek

Staurikosaurus
18-02-2009, 04:34
Anvils are fine, not so fine with Thorek as his re-rolls make it a bit over the top. Pretty much the biggest beef I have with it is if he does the 2d6 s4 hits (forget the name at the moment) and does NO WOUNDS your unit still moves at half. Such Bullsh!t

Tyranno1
18-02-2009, 08:01
On its own is fine.

But coupled with a maxed out gunline (or thorek) not so fine.

Fredmans
18-02-2009, 08:08
I would never field dwarves without one. Mainly for the extra movement. Dwarves without an anvil are extremely static and defensive. If you want to be active as well, pick an anvil.

/Fredmans

Necromancy Black
18-02-2009, 09:35
Anvils are fantastic when they blow the crap out of themselves. Doesn't happen alot, but it's great when it does :D

Seeing as they can only really do one thing a turn, and if they try to do more they greatly increase the risk of failure, I don't find them cheesey at all.

Grimbrow
18-02-2009, 11:00
My normal anvil works just fine and has never roused a complaint. Its not seen as nearly as much a threat as thorek because it cant do the 2d6 ancient power hits, but the normal slowy/shooty rune and the rune of moveyness make it extremely versitile. It even adds a bit of thinking to a gunline to get the best out of it :)

Oh, and I enjoy not having to fork out the full 505 points for Thorek craziness.

larabic
18-02-2009, 15:33
Just wished it didn't both require us to take a Lord and use up an extra hero slot for it. Hopefully in the far future it will be treated like the Cauldron.

Condottiere
18-02-2009, 15:48
If I know in advance that I'm facing it, then I don't find it cheesy.

Ixquic
18-02-2009, 15:52
Normal one is fine although line of sight should be required for the damage spell. Thorek is stupid and generally the only people that use him just can't stand to lose or are really bad players.

Bac5665
18-02-2009, 15:59
My guess is that in the next Dwarf book, it will work just like the cauldron and the EoTG; it wont take up a hero slot, but it will have either range or LoS requirements or both.

lcfr
18-02-2009, 16:01
A normal, non-Thorek is not cheesy at all. You run a risk of having it poop out on you for a turn, and ancient power is too chancy to attempt, so I'd say that for its cost it's underpowered.

Coram_Boy
18-02-2009, 16:06
It's not brilliant, but not terrible either.

The SkaerKrow
18-02-2009, 17:20
The Anvil of Doom isn't really cheesy, though it is exceptionally boring when everyone starts taking them in their Dwarf armies. Stay away from Thorek, and I doubt anyone will look at you funny for taking one.

Nerhesi
18-02-2009, 18:48
It is just one of those annoying things that people can not stop very effectively because you dictate if it works or not via one dice-roll.

It can't be dispelled, it can effect everything except single characters on non-large mounts. So it's not like it doesn't affect ItP troops or something.

Basically, it is a near-guaranteed magic phase. It's like Vanhel's spam - but instead of spam it is one cast that can't do anything about.

Sam W.