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garth40k
18-02-2009, 16:02
was just wondering what people would say there best (as in most proud of) conversion is :) just thought it would be fun to read what projects people have done and are proud of.

garth
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precinctomega
18-02-2009, 16:35
I think I'm most proud of these two:

http://fc91.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/091/8/6/54mm_Pre_Heresy_Dark_Angel_by_precinctomega.png

http://fc74.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/006/d/1/54mm_Harlequin_Composite_by_precinctomega.jpg

R.

garth40k
18-02-2009, 16:52
o wow im jealous!
they are amazing!
how long they take you??

garth
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kaled
18-02-2009, 18:28
No idea which conversion I'd call my favourite - the Fleet Commissar I'm working on at the moment is looking pretty good so far... but there's plenty of time to screw him up yet!

Most of my favourite models are pretty simple conversions like both versions of Inquisitor Kaled (1 (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kaled.jpg) 2 (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kaled_mk2.JPG)). I'm also quite proud of my ogryn (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ogryn.JPG). And after using them in a game the other weekend I'm pretty fond of my Ordo Sicarius warband (1 (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/red_queen.JPG) 2 (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/blackjack.JPG) 3 (http://www.kaled100.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/operative.JPG)). But if you were to ask me again next week I'd probably give you a while different list of favourites...

garth40k
18-02-2009, 18:47
again all beautiful models!
i havent done any yet :P il get there

this is as far as ive got with my first inq model :P
(i know i shouldnt be posting it in a conversions thread)
http://warseer.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5843&cat=500
any thoughts about it welcome...
(p.s. im sorry for the poor quality photo)
garth
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garth40k
18-02-2009, 23:41
scratch tht ive now finished my first inq model and i'm well proud haha

precinctomega
19-02-2009, 19:30
Is garth40k the only person on Warseer who signs off posts with kisses? ;)

Both of those models are about 3 months' work each. They have their own development threads in my signature. I'm doing an Arbitrator conversion at the moment that I rather like. And I really should finish my Magos Biologis and Enginseer conversions, because they're pretty good, too (and have been languishing, 75% done, for over two years).

R.

garth40k
19-02-2009, 20:05
Haha you know you love it. To be honest I don't even realize I put any kisses most of the time I just do.

Do you have any hints, tips or just damn good advice for anyone who has done a conversion before and isn't sure where to start. LOL I don't think I would dare attempt a project yet in fear of screwing it up.

Garth
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kaled
19-02-2009, 22:23
Do you have any hints, tips or just damn good advice for anyone who has done a conversion before and isn't sure where to start.Start with simple things - head swaps, weapon swaps, repositioning arms & legs, that type of thing. That'll get you used to working with the tools and using greenstuff to fill gaps and resculpt bits you change. It's possible to do some pretty excellent and unique conversions just by swapping parts arounds between models and using greenstuff to patch up the joins - most conversions fall into this category. However, as your skills improve you can move onto more complicated things like sculpting entire body parts or building bits from scratch.

garth40k
19-02-2009, 23:07
Cool thanks :)
So I have changed the staff on my eisinhorn model so he is holding it instead of t being on his back. Does that class as a conversion?

Garth
Xxx

kaled
20-02-2009, 06:44
Cool thanks :)
So I have changed the staff on my eisinhorn model so he is holding it instead of t being on his back. Does that class as a conversion?Yeah, it's a simple one, but it counts. :)

garth40k
20-02-2009, 09:03
yay! haha

ok i got my guys painted. started reading through the rules (complex for my little brain). do the profile in the book give off good characteristics. by that i mean are the part where it tell you how to make a good inquisitor or assasin reliable or do they make the characters too powerful/weak??
if so how do i know i got my stats right??

garth
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kaled
20-02-2009, 13:21
do the profile in the book give off good characteristics. by that i mean are the part where it tell you how to make a good inquisitor or assasin reliable or do they make the characters too powerful/weak??
if so how do i know i got my stats right??Simple answer, you don't know. It all depends on the people you're going to play against - some groups use the profiles in the back of the book. Other people think those stats are a bit high and prefer to use slightly lower stats (because if your character has BS=90 then he's almost never going to miss and it takes away some of the tension in the game). Lower stats open up a few more tactical options - e.g. do you just blast away on semi-auto and hope you hit, or do you carefully aim and make each shot count. Other people work from the descriptions at the start of the rulebook (p15 of the LRB, p23 of the hardcopy).

There's no one right answer. You need to decide amongst your gaming group which road you want to go down - personally I prefer the latter and I expanded on those descriptions a little in the article I wrote for B&C (link (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=465)).

garth40k
20-02-2009, 14:05
lol that useful thanks.
ok here goes an example just to see if i understood it.

just for an inquisitor::

WS BS S T I Wp Sg Nv Ld
69 42 55 59 65 64 67 78 81

i know that you cant really tell me if they are "right" because when i find a group we will decide on it like you said. but the way i decided on these is that he is more useful with his sword then shooting. he is an average level psyker and a natural leader who is brave and normally first to charge into combat that makes others run in fear.
does these stats represent this well/badly? and why :)
i know im asking alot of annoying question that im sure you answer all the time haha
any help would be great. thanks.

kaled
20-02-2009, 15:44
WS BS S T I Wp Sg Nv Ld
69 42 55 59 65 64 67 78 81

i know that you cant really tell me if they are "right" because when i find a group we will decide on it like you said. but the way i decided on these is that he is more useful with his sword then shooting. he is an average level psyker and a natural leader who is brave and normally first to charge into combat that makes others run in fear.It's probably worth starting a new thread as this one has now veered off the original subject. However...

For a henchman type, that character would be fine. Most characters in Inquisitor are generally at the 'veteran' level or above, and in general warband leaders are a touch more powerful. WS=69 is good, but if he's a bit of an expert with a sword I think you could add about 5 to it. BS=42 isn't great and I'd expect an Inquisitor to have trained with firearms so something in the 60s would be reasonable. S & T in the high 50's to low 60s is probably 'normal' for an Inquisitor. Usually people make their warband leaders Speed 5, so an I of about 70 - this represents them being quick-witted and decisive more than them having very fast physical reactions. The main area where an Inquisitor is going to shine is in his mental stats and it's common for them to be in the 70-80s across the board.

Bear in mind that although I've used terms like 'average' and normal' in what I've written above, characters vary a lot and often higher or lower stats are appropriate. Generally people shy away from having too many stats in the 90s - but in the case of a powerful character like an Inquisitor, one or two might be appropriate.

The thing to do is work out who your character is, where he came from, what his career has been like and all that sort of stuff and then fit the stats to it. As a simplistic example, if you decide that your character was an Administratum adept then you wouldn't expect him to be as good with weapons as someone who has been in the Guard all their life, but he's likely to be more intelligent and well read. Working out the details of their life can also help when choosing equipment - so for example a character who was in the Guard might still prefer to carry their trusty lasgun rather than requisition something new.

garth40k
20-02-2009, 22:06
Hmm I see :) ok il do that then.
Your right about the thread LOL too many questions not to do with the point LOL