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warsmithferrousmaximus
21-02-2009, 23:04
hi everyone

i have just started planning a skaven army but would like some feedback on my plan. here goes

LORDS:
grey seer squiknip
lvl4 wizard, hand weapon
twisted crown of the horned rat
2x dispel scrolls pts 335

HEROES:
chieftan thorkiks
weeping blade, heavy armour
shield pts 96

chieftan skipthrot
handweapon,heavy armour
battle standard,
banner of the swarm pts 94

assassin rathnik
weeping blade, hand weapon
throwing stars, smoke bombs pts170

CORE UNITS:

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrat slaves
hand weapons, shield
musician, pawleader pts 72

clanrat slaves
hand weapons, shield
musician, pawleader pts 72

giant rats
2 packs packmasters have:
light armour, whip, hand weapon pts 60

nightrunners
nightleader
mixed weapons pts172

stormvermin
full command, halberds
heavy armour, umbranner
ratling gun pts275

SPECIAl UNITS:
plague monks
full command
additional hand weapons pts 185

plague monks
full command
additional hand weapons pts 185

rat ogres
4 packs
packmasters have: light armour
whip, hand weapon pts200

warplock jezzails
x5 pavise, jezzails
hand weapons pts100

RARE UNITS:
warp lightning cannon pts100

total points: 2926

all help will be greatly appreciated

cheers!

Lotl Botl
22-02-2009, 02:35
dont know much about skaven, but a couple recomendations drop the champs from most of your units except maybe the night-runners(skirmishers) and maybe u want to trade one of the clanrat units for another giant rat pack adds a little speed/mobility for flanking which is vital for skaven
final bravo for not making a SAD
PS-is this supose to be 3,000 pt list becuase ur unit purchasing appears to be one of a 2,000+ pt list

Foegnasher
22-02-2009, 03:15
hi everyone

i have just started planning a skaven army but would like some feedback on my plan. here goes

LORDS:
grey seer squiknip
lvl4 wizard, hand weapon
twisted crown of the horned rat
2x dispel scrolls pts 335

HEROES:
chieftan thorkiks
weeping blade, heavy armour
shield pts 96

chieftan skipthrot
handweapon,heavy armour
battle standard,
banner of the swarm pts 94

assassin rathnik
weeping blade, hand weapon
throwing stars, smoke bombs pts170

CORE UNITS:

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
hand weapons, light armour
shield , full command pts125

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrats
spears, light armour
shields, full command pts145

clanrat slaves
hand weapons, shield
musician, pawleader pts 72

clanrat slaves
hand weapons, shield
musician, pawleader pts 72

giant rats
2 packs packmasters have:
light armour, whip, hand weapon pts 60

nightrunners
nightleader
mixed weapons pts172

stormvermin
full command, halberds
heavy armour, umbranner
ratling gun pts275

SPECIAl UNITS:
plague monks
full command
additional hand weapons pts 185

plague monks
full command
additional hand weapons pts 185

rat ogres
4 packs
packmasters have: light armour
whip, hand weapon pts200

warplock jezzails
x5 pavise, jezzails
hand weapons pts100

RARE UNITS:
warp lightning cannon pts100

total points: 2926

all help will be greatly appreciated

cheers!

Greetings new clanrbrother! i will give you a no-nonsense look at your army, which is good in principal (lots of units, lots of infantry) but needs some things to make it great. 9 out of 10 skaven players are going to agree with me.

1) heros: you have elected to go the grey seer route. there is nothing wrong with this. but you only have 6 power dice and in this day and age, with the amount of magic you are seeing, a 335 point guy that isnt going to get 1/3 of his spells off just aint going to cut it. you need to get him a warlock buddy, and lose another hero. i'd suggest the assassin, who is cool, but is to many points for not enough return. keep the bsb. the fighty chieftan is a bit of a waste. our characters dont kill many guys, and up against anything outside of a gobbo, we are usually outmatched. (you also can't take the weeping blade twice)
to sum up:
grey seer: crown, eye of horned rat (+1 power dice!), ws charm (stops miscasts) 335
wawrlock all the goodies, (no pistol) 2 x dispel scroll 135
hero, bsb, banner of swarm (or warbanner) 94-99 pts.

core:

boy you got a ton of rats. but they are all minimum sized. that just wont cut it. for clanrats? 25 minimum. so, take a look at that. slaves? they suck and are there to die. do take minimum units of them, and dont upgrade them. (maybe a musician if you got the points)giant rat packs. i like them. i like them in big 4 pack units. but hey, small is usefull too. stormvermin, i love them to death, but they are overpriced for what they do. leave them at home until after teh new book comes out. again, you need at least 25. nightrunners: unit is to big. always field in units of 6, with xhand wep. 42 points. now drop 4 of them, you got war machne and wizard hunters. dont count on them to do much, but they can give the enemy fits.

special:

plague monks, again, need to be 25. they can be very useful, but wont do well against high armor, high toughness opponents. watch out for the frenzy bait. Ogres. dude, i love the fluff and models but they just cant get it done on the table, leave them with the vermin until the next book. Jezzails are money, but you only got 5. i'd run two units, esecially since you'll vbe dropping the ogres. make em 6 strong to help with panic issues. good stuff, watch out for magic blasting these guys.

rare.
cannon: no. it's too random to be any good. dont ever count on it to do anything.

i notice you have two monks and NO plague censer bearers. you need a unit, maybe two. they kick ass. more than anything else in the list, these guys generate kills. get some.

there's my two bits. most people play at 2000, or 2250. but that will give you options.

later and good luck,
Foegnasher

Lotl Botl
23-02-2009, 01:04
id listen to this guy he seems to knw what he's talking about :p

Foegnasher
23-02-2009, 02:37
id listen to this guy he seems to knw what he's talking about :p

.sigged for truth.

Capt. L.S.D.
23-02-2009, 10:25
thats sound advise