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backslide
25-03-2009, 05:50
really should play more warhammer, got this list half painted wanted thoughts on it

Level 4 High Sorceress @ 640 Pts
Focus farmilar
Pendant of Khaeleth
Black Dragon

Level 2 Sorceress @ 175 Pts
Dispel Scroll
Tome of Furion

10 Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen @ 100 Pts

10 Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen @ 100 Pts

10 Dark Elf Repeater Crossbowmen @ 100 Pts

18 Black Ark Corsairs @ 230 Pts
Full command
Sea Serpent Standard

5 Harpies @ 55 Pts

5 Harpies @ 55 Pts

Cold One Chariot @ 100 Pts

Cold One Chariot @ 100 Pts

6 Cold One Knights @ 226 Pts
champ standard
Banner of slaughter

Reaper Bolt Thrower @ 100 Pts

Reaper Bolt Thrower @ 100 Pts

War Hydra @ 175

2248

8+ casting
5 dispell

VeriNasti
25-03-2009, 06:11
Get rid of the chariots and in in Black Guard - chariots aren't so good any more that they have scrapped the 2 for 1 choice
Everything else looks good to me except they high sorceress may be a little bit of a target

backslide
25-03-2009, 06:30
not getting black guard, everyone uses them and I want to stand out from the pack a little

I don't think losing the 2 for 1 thing is an issue as they got better leadership WS and strenght in exchange!

VeriNasti
25-03-2009, 07:17
At least remove the dragon from sorceress - huge target
Use those points then for either shades, executioners or a master

VeriNasti
25-03-2009, 08:13
Thinking about it, you will definately need to get probably one more foot unit in there to help the corsairs - executioners or witch elves for the hard hitting attacks

cyberspite
25-03-2009, 10:27
Executioners for their high strength attacks, you already have the corsairs for killing light infantry, although as it is with the corsair- hydra tag team supported by cold-ones and the dragon its still pretty capable.

I would drop a unit of xbows for some shades, you already have very decent shooting with the 2 rbt's as well and 5 shades are still going to have 10 shots at bs5 plus a combat threat with gw and scouts are always useful.

VeriNasti
25-03-2009, 10:29
Good idea Cyberspite, i back that

fubukii
25-03-2009, 11:08
i dont know how i feel about the corsairs in this list, they just seem really out of place, and unable to contribute much to the army

Crube
25-03-2009, 11:15
I think the Dragon just makes your Sorceress a huge target, so maybe a Pegasus for mobility may be better. Also, I personally dislike infantry, so I prefer Dark Riders. Combine these with some Shades for some lovely stabby/shooty action :D

I'd keep at least 1 chariot too. They still act as some sort of target that many opponents fear, and if you have flyers (harpies, dragion or pegasus) along with shades, then warmachines are likely not too much of a hassle...

backslide
25-03-2009, 11:36
corsairs, the models rock niced and frenzyed to kill light rank and file, they act as the fulcrum the rest of the army manovers around

backslide
26-03-2009, 09:08
I have tryed a manti under the SS but the dragon means she can take small units on her own or flank/rear charge ranked units with no worrys, manti is much riskyer

Mannfred
26-03-2009, 11:46
Sigh* ur sorceress is just going to die from shooting....like ur on a large target.....true randomising does take place but i've seen many times when the guy just rolls up 5s and 6s and u'd be like wah!?!? pendat won't save ur from str3 shots - through sheer amout of saves she'll die...

backslide
26-03-2009, 14:30
I have not plan to drive her out in front of enemy fire, she has the farmilar so she can find a nice spot to hide I no issue with hiding her for 2 or even 3 turns if need be

Dragon Prince of Caledor
26-03-2009, 16:27
Executioners for their high strength attacks, you already have the corsairs for killing light infantry, although as it is with the corsair- hydra tag team supported by cold-ones and the dragon its still pretty capable.

I would drop a unit of xbows for some shades, you already have very decent shooting with the 2 rbt's as well and 5 shades are still going to have 10 shots at bs5 plus a combat threat with gw and scouts are always useful.

well said good points

bob_the_small
26-03-2009, 21:56
If you are going to hide the sorceress why is she on a dragon??? Put her on a dark pegasus and add in a manticore, you also need a hard hitting infantry unit like executioners or black guard

backslide
27-03-2009, 00:06
I said hide for a couple of turns if needed..

eshinkid
27-03-2009, 00:15
:eyebrows:Dude go with the pegasus you still have the movement and you are less of a target off of the dragon. Besides it is a huge waste of a dragon if you are just hiding her.

backslide
28-03-2009, 12:01
well this is the net so easy for things to be taken out of context...

I said willing to hide her if needed..

eg wait for those 2 great cannons to get killed...

bob_the_small
28-03-2009, 12:36
But your whole strategy is dependent upon their big guns being taken out!
While your sorceress is too vulnerable and the dragon is a waste of points

W A L 5 H Y
28-03-2009, 12:41
as already been stated your Sorcerrer will be plastered with shooting until dead. Its a bit of a burden for the dragon IMO.