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seaXcow
31-03-2009, 18:54
so i was playing my daemons the other day and i lost and the guy who i was playing got his pride up a little to high so i challenged him to a rematch and im making the most over power list i can! what yall think of this!

2500 daemon list

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 150

Herald of khorne 125
Soul hunger

Herald of khorne 115
Armour of khorne

Core

20x Bloodletters 270
Full command

20x bloodletters 270
Full command

20x Bloodletters 270
Full command

5x furies 60
5x furies 60

Special
5x flesh hounds 250
karanak

5x flesh hounds 175

Rare

3x flamers 105

3x flamers 105

Total = 2495

Mozzamanx
31-03-2009, 18:56
Your core units are twice as big as they need to be, you really need a Battle Standard, and Karanak is generally seen as weak.

I'd also recommend swapping at least one block of Bloodletters for Horrors, to get some much needed magic defense.

seaXcow
31-03-2009, 18:58
so your saying i should have 20 horrors instead?

Mozzamanx
31-03-2009, 19:02
I'd say 10 is better, since its cheap. However, there is also the option of 30 and getting a L3 wizard with Bolt, though that would ideally need a herald as well.

seaXcow
31-03-2009, 19:06
so this looks better?

2500 daemon list

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 150

Herald of khorne 125
Soul hunger

Herald of khorne 115
Armour of khorne

Core

15x Bloodletters 210
Full command

15x bloodletters 210
Full command

10x horrors 120

5x furies 60
5x furies 60

Special
5x flesh hounds 175


5x flesh hounds 175

Rare

3x flamers 105

3x flamers 105

Total = 2150


then im left with 345pnts to spend.

jax40kplyr1
31-03-2009, 19:14
Well 2500 is a little different points cost - most I see are for 2250.
Anyways - since you have points left to spend, I would increase the size of the flamers to 6 each, throw Skulltaker on a juggernaut, put armor of khorne on the other bloodletter vice soulhunger, then see how many points you have left.
Me personally - I would drop the heralds of khorne and the bloodletters and run heralds of tzeentch on dics, with units of 10 horrors replacing the bloodletters. The GW staff who won the Skull tournament (several of them went undefeated) or whatever they called it ran a very similar list with the changes I recommended.

Mercules
31-03-2009, 19:16
Give your Herald of Khorne with the Armor of Khorne a Juggernaut so he has a 0+ armor save? Would the Banner of Sundering help you out? What are you facing in the rematch? Something like LM where Skink Priests have one Lore to choose from? :)

bob_the_small
31-03-2009, 19:26
i wouldnt mind playing that...

seaXcow
31-03-2009, 21:17
well im currently re writing the list with the help that yall posted thank yall very much, im facing a alright empire army, lots of shooting and ****, but pretty useless in combat. and cannons arent a really a worry with my furies going after them with 20 inches per turn. but if anyone has anymore pretty fricked up advice im all ears !

Modaavi
31-03-2009, 21:22
That list isn't nearly as hard as daemons can get. Typical fully cheesed out daemon army would consist of Bloodthirster, Skulltaker, 2 Heralds of Tzeentch, 3x10 Horrors, 2 or 3 flesh hound units, and 2 units of 5-6 flamers, with whatever else you can throw in to fill up 2500. That list will leave anyone crying.

seaXcow
31-03-2009, 21:26
yeh i hear that alot i just dont know how to play that list, i know the thirster will get into combat, and im guessing the skulltaker is on a juggernaut, and horrors are probly casting magic and not in combat at all, but im not sure about the herald of tzeench's

seaXcow
31-03-2009, 21:28
2500 daemon list

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 200
juggernaut

Herald of khorne 115
armour of khorne

Herald of khorne 115
Armour of khorne

Core

15x Bloodletters 210
Full command

15x bloodletters 210
Full command

10x horrors 120

5x furies 60
5x furies 60

Special
5x flesh hounds 175


5x flesh hounds 175

Rare

6x flamers 210

6x flamers 210

Total =2400


this is the list so far still 100 pnts to use.

Modaavi
31-03-2009, 21:36
yeh i hear that alot i just dont know how to play that list, i know the thirster will get into combat, and im guessing the skulltaker is on a juggernaut, and horrors are probly casting magic and not in combat at all, but im not sure about the herald of tzeench's

Thirster flys around flanking and absolutely destroying things, Skulltaker on jugger with one of the hound units, horrors stand back and magic things to death, flamers shoot anything that gets close into crispy bits, heralds of tzeentch further add to your magic domination. It is a nasty list and won't make many friends, but will certainly teach that guy a lesson about daemons.

seaXcow
01-04-2009, 04:19
ok so here my new and redone list what do yall think? and what can i spend those extra points on??

2500 daemon list (revised)

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 200
Juggernaught

Herald of tzeench 145
Power vortex

Herald of tzeench 145
Power vortex


Core

10x horrors 157
Standered (icon : banner of change )

10x horrors 157
Standered (Icon : banner of change)

10x horrors 157
Standered (icon : banner of change)


Special

5x Flesh hounds 175

5x flesh hounds 175

5xflesh hounds 175

Rare

6x flamers 210
6x flamers 210

Total : 2446

mr.kislev
01-04-2009, 06:13
much better exept anyone you play will ether start crying at the end or pull out a knife.

seaXcow
01-04-2009, 11:59
thank you mr. kislev. i dont use cheese dick list often but he deserves it.

W0lf
01-04-2009, 12:04
Swap vortex for master of sorcery on the heralds.

Run the horrors naked at 120 pts.

Make the hounds 6 big with pts saved.

Done.

Lucky24/7
01-04-2009, 12:05
Try this on for size

Blodthirster
Obsidian Armour
+1 Str blade
re-roll hits

Blue Scribes

Herald Of Tzeencth X 2
Scroll X 2
Know All Of One Lore X 2

3 X 10 Horrors

4 X 5 Flesh Hounds

2 X 6 Flamers

I would like to see anyone compeate against that list

seaXcow
01-04-2009, 18:39
quick question, can the skulltaker on juggernaught join a unit of flesh hounds?

seaXcow
01-04-2009, 18:49
Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 200
Juggernaught

Herald of tzeench 140
master of sorcery

Herald of tzeench 140
master of sorcery


Core

10x horrors120

10x horrors 120

10x horrors 120


Special

6x Flesh hounds 210

6x flesh hounds 210

6xflesh hounds 210

Rare

6x flamers 210
6x flamers 210

Total : 2430


ok im left with 30pnts to spend!!!

Bum
01-04-2009, 19:20
quick question, can the skulltaker on juggernaught join a unit of flesh hounds?


Unless noted otherwise by the unit or general rules anything can join anything. You can have your general on horse marching with foot sloggers if you want.

Modaavi
01-04-2009, 20:15
That is a much better list. And by better, I guess I mean worse, since I now cry just looking at it. ;) Once you beat this guy into tears, make sure you burn that list and scatter the ashes.

bob_the_small
01-04-2009, 22:07
Drop a flesh hound from each unit to make 5... that gives you 165 points to spend. Take 2 bloodcrushers to help skulltaker.

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 04:23
lolol bob the small youra genius, i cant wait for tommarow.

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 04:23
i mean friday.

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 04:27
Drop a flesh hound from each unit to make 5... that gives you 165 points to spend. Take 2 bloodcrushers to help skulltaker.

one little problem all my rare choices are filled with flamers

SiNNiX
02-04-2009, 05:22
one little problem all my rare choices are filled with flamers

What's wrong with that? :)

Kill-Freedom
02-04-2009, 07:48
ok so here my new and redone list what do yall think? and what can i spend those extra points on??

2500 daemon list (revised)

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 200
Juggernaught

Herald of tzeench 145
Power vortex

Herald of tzeench 145
Power vortex


Core

10x horrors 157
Standered (icon : banner of change )

10x horrors 157
Standered (Icon : banner of change)

10x horrors 157
Standered (icon : banner of change)


Special

5x Flesh hounds 175

5x flesh hounds 175

5xflesh hounds 175

Rare

6x flamers 210
6x flamers 210

Total : 2446

Can DoC take multiples of the same demon gifts/magic items?????????? :confused:

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 12:11
well personally at first i thought i couldnt, but everybody says i can so i guess i can.

jax40kplyr1
02-04-2009, 15:53
You can take multiples of the same gift - it's not a magic item. That latest list is basically the same as the one's GW's winners ran, with exception of some more flesh hounds. It wins. Wins alot. Makes everyone else hate you.

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 18:43
nice jax that what i was kinda going for lol.

bob_the_small
02-04-2009, 18:49
ATM you have got some beardy list.
The only thing is that Skulltaker is still vulnerable to shooting and static combat ress

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 18:56
yeh i know im trying to think of how to make him better then a 0+ armour save and a 5+ ward save. with a unit flesh hounds he will be in

bob_the_small
02-04-2009, 19:05
Sorry, I didn'y know he was going to be in a unit of flesh hounds..
in that case the list is sound and you will leave most people crying

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 19:09
hahaha yup, i wouldnt leave him defenseless like that, tommarow is the big day though, now i wish i had a ticket for a adeptacon

fubukii
02-04-2009, 19:25
id make the horrors naked and use the extra points else where, id totally swap skulltaker for a khorne herald bsb with the banner of sundering or unholy victory

seaXcow
02-04-2009, 19:30
the horrors are naked

Lords

Bloodthirser 540
Immortal fury
Obsidian armour
Collar of khorne

Heroes

Skulltaker 200
Juggernaught

Herald of tzeench 140
master of sorcery

Herald of tzeench 140
master of sorcery


Core

10x horrors120

10x horrors 120

10x horrors 120


Special

6x Flesh hounds 210

6x flesh hounds 210

6xflesh hounds 210

Rare

6x flamers 210
6x flamers 210

Total : 2430


ok im left with 30pnts to spend!!!

bob_the_small
02-04-2009, 20:08
i would lose skulltakera and put in a khorne bsb on a juggernaut /w standard of sundering, that should fill up the remaining points

Kill-Freedom
03-04-2009, 12:08
Thi slist is fast/magic full/shooty with good combat units, you should do very well