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Orcboy_Phil
04-04-2009, 18:34
Well inspired by Dessert Raiders I'm thinking of doing an all female Pyshic Court for the new guard codex and I've hit a snag. I'm looking for tasteful (i.e. not naked) models to use. They need to be a reasonable scale compared to GW's Tallarn range any suggestions? I've already tried Perry, Wargame Foundry and Hasslefree and I can't seem to find anything sutible.

Edit: If your still wondering what I'm looking for think Princess Jamine in Aladdin

RichBlake
04-04-2009, 18:44
Well inspired by Dessert Raiders I'm thinking of doing an all female Pyshic Court for the new guard codex and I've hit a snag. I'm looking for tasteful (i.e. not naked) models to use. They need to be a reasonable scale compared to GW's Tallarn range any suggestions? I've already tried Perry, Wargame Foundry and Hasslefree and I can't seem to find anything sutible.

Edit: If your still wondering what I'm looking for think Princess Jamine in Aladdin

Can't help you with the models but as a side note you better have a good explanation.

If I remember rightly the Tallarns are all deeply religious and view psykers as evil. Just thought I'd point that out as obviously if you can find the models you'll have a cool unit that will probably be noticed and it may get pointed out to you.

Lord Cook
04-04-2009, 19:10
RichBlake is right in that the Tallarns themselves are very deeply devoted to the Imperial faith, however I don't necessarily think that means they view psykers as evil. The two are generally interrelated, but the Tallarn background we're referring to comes from a Ciaphas Cain novel and it never specified (unless I've forgotten it since then) what view they had towards anyone other than the Emperor using psychic powers. It was a long time ago so I could be wrong.

Nabeshin1106
04-04-2009, 19:17
The Tallarn in Desert Raiders were also quite distrustful of the Psyker attached to their regiment, so it does seem to be part of their fluff.

This isn't to say that they never use them, they just don't like them.

Conspyre
04-04-2009, 19:17
Reaper lists a pack of dancers, and I recall having another one from them in a similar theme, but I can't find it.
http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/dancer/sku-down/02501
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/02448

Hope those help, it's a cool idea!

Lord of Nonsensical Crap
04-04-2009, 19:27
Asrudbael's slave chicks, maybe?

I can also see Dark Elf Witches working pretty well as well, but you would have to extensively Green Stuff them up.

Griefbringer
04-04-2009, 19:27
MegaMiniatures has a range of medieval/fantasy Arabian models that contains many females:

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/MegaMiniatures_1-50-Arabian_W0QQ_fsubZ281883011QQ_sidZ2577791QQ_trksid Zp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

Perhaps not the best models out there, but could form a decent basis for conversions.

OTOH you could buy a box of the plastic WHFB ogres and convert them into belly-dancing ogryns...

decker_cky
04-04-2009, 19:28
The Tallarn in Desert Raiders were also quite distrustful of the Psyker attached to their regiment, so it does seem to be part of their fluff.

This isn't to say that they never use them, they just don't like them.

No, Desert Raiders had 2 tribes of Tallarn. One of them hated the Psyker and one basically saw her as a messiah sent by the Emperor.

I think it's a great idea. I'll keep my eyes on this thread to see if there's anything that catches my eye for my Tallarns.

Wolflord Havoc
04-04-2009, 19:46
Have you tried the Hasslefree minature range?

Namely here

http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/range.php?range_id=27&subcat_id=37

precinctomega
04-04-2009, 20:45
Well inspired by Dessert Raiders

Come back with my pudding, you sweet-course thieves, you!

R.

Nabeshin1106
04-04-2009, 20:51
No, Desert Raiders had 2 tribes of Tallarn. One of them hated the Psyker and one basically saw her as a messiah sent by the Emperor.

I think it's a great idea. I'll keep my eyes on this thread to see if there's anything that catches my eye for my Tallarns.

Well, that was just the two captains that had those views on her, but iirc she stayed inside her tent most of the time to avoid the regular guardsmen.

Bregalad
05-04-2009, 00:32
Guess, the Hasslefree poledancers are not what he had in mind ;)

Reaper:
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG134&product=REA02448
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG09&product=REA02749
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG09&product=REA02970

Death Cultist like:
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG83&product=DAG3015

And there are always human cheerleaders, by GW or Shadowforge ;)
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG118&product=SF-GM125

Col. Tartleton
05-04-2009, 02:16
Well he could clothe some of them with greenstuff... that way he could also make them look exactly how he wants. I mean If you want your can put burquas on them. I think that they'd be explained as the fact they're pyschers not that they're a jab at arab culture or anything. I mean if I was dealing with a psychic and they were dangerous id want an easy way to tell who they are for all we know they could be male under there, it can be the garb of psychics. You can say that yours are female and leave it at that.

MacVurrich
05-04-2009, 02:53
would converting some of wargod basti Harems and Camp followers work
http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/list_items.asp?CatID=24&SubID=23&pageHeading=Items%20-%20Miniatures%20-%20Aegyptus

Orcboy_Phil
05-04-2009, 03:01
Gah, I'm rubbish at greenstuffing, I can barely greenstuff the beards on my chaos dwarfs let alone clothes. Thanks Bregalad. The bladedancer from reaper is defenitly what I'm looking for style wise. Any similar minis people?
And yes Hasslefree are slightly too risque otherwise I'd use the Harem set I've already got. :)

Count de Monet
05-04-2009, 03:23
A lot of the Reaper sorceress figs could be a good start for psykers. If you really want 'that' look, then "Jasmine Silverveil" would be a good example.

http://www.reapermini.com/OnlineStore/turban/latest/02497

PhantomRonin
05-04-2009, 03:35
Reaper actually has a dancing girl mini somewhere. I hope it's not OOP.

RichBlake
05-04-2009, 05:01
RichBlake is right in that the Tallarns themselves are very deeply devoted to the Imperial faith, however I don't necessarily think that means they view psykers as evil. The two are generally interrelated, but the Tallarn background we're referring to comes from a Ciaphas Cain novel and it never specified (unless I've forgotten it since then) what view they had towards anyone other than the Emperor using psychic powers. It was a long time ago so I could be wrong.

Yeah but puritan (as in hardline) religous types in the Imperium generally do view them as evil, even if it's a neccessary one. To be fair it doesn't mention it specifically (though they are put at ill ease by the General's psyker so is everyone else...) but it's pretty consistant that devout Imperial tend to hate psykers.

It's not hard to work around though...



No, Desert Raiders had 2 tribes of Tallarn. One of them hated the Psyker and one basically saw her as a messiah sent by the Emperor.

I think it's a great idea. I'll keep my eyes on this thread to see if there's anything that catches my eye for my Tallarns.


Well, that was just the two captains that had those views on her, but iirc she stayed inside her tent most of the time to avoid the regular guardsmen.

That is still a good explanation though. The way to explain it would simply be that the Captain or Colonel had a vision in his dream that the girl was a gift by the Emperor, emobdying his will to perform miracles.

Or something like that anyway. As I say the only reason I mention it is because there's nothing so dissapointing to have a cool unit you've put time into for them to say "yeah but that makes no sense".

Well, it's dissapointing for me anyway (not that it happens much anymore).

Orcboy_Phil
05-04-2009, 11:34
Thats a point I'm going to have to check if the Pysker court is the only way to have Pyskers then I can avoid duplications. (YEs I know of the Astropath, but that models too cool not to use).

Spider-pope
05-04-2009, 12:06
The new codex also has Primaris Psykers, so if you only want one psyker, its an option.

Killmaimburn
05-04-2009, 12:12
If you wanted to stick with GW you could go with dark eldar slave girls.
Heres a pic (http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=61191)..(thats not me or my stuff by the way)

Bunnahabhain
05-04-2009, 12:17
The hasslefree ones are a bit much for loyalist guard, and with poses like that , no amount of GS'd or painted clothes will help. Slaneeshi rebel guard would be a different matter...

Let us know if you find anything useful, I'm sure there are plenty of us who could use a few reasonable female figures in guard armies, I'd like a few as advisors. My female storm troopers wouldn't be coming out as much now, so I'd like something!

Orcboy_Phil
05-04-2009, 12:43
The hasslefree ones are a bit much for loyalist guard, and with poses like that , no amount of GS'd or painted clothes will help. Slaneeshi rebel guard would be a different matter...

Same with the Dark Eldar slave girls me thinks. Another question thougth I found resin sprues online for Female Cadians. Anybody know if you can still get these or did the legal s******** stop that.

Wolflord Havoc
05-04-2009, 12:55
Ah yes I suppose a Pole dancer is a bit much.

They have other figures though

Like this one semi levitating look suitably psykerish

http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=1645

But again may not suit what your looking for

Orcboy_Phil
05-04-2009, 16:35
I love Will... I mean Hazel. Just not what I'm looking for. The Reaper ones (Jasmin and Bladedancer) are certainly what I'm looking for, unfortuantly I can't find anywhere in the UK that sells them. And with Currency the way it is theres no point ordering from Europe and tariffs make ordering from America a game of finiancial Russian Roulette.

Alessander
05-04-2009, 17:14
Mordheim amazons suit he bill perfectly. And Vect's slave girls are always good.

Nostro
05-04-2009, 17:32
Not so many females but awesome arabic-style minis:

http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-sarrasins/index.php

Especially this one could work:

http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-sarrasins/fatina/index.php

Or if you are open to some kind of "demonhost form" you have:
http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-sarrasins/chams-al-majid/index.php
and
http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-sarrasins/jafar-al-efrit/index.php
Maybe more suitable for a Chaos army though.

And this one could make a very good psyker team leader:
http://helldorado.fr/factions/les-sarrasins/nazir-ibn-hamid-ibn-hajad/index.php

RichBlake
05-04-2009, 18:17
Remember aswell you need an Overseer to watch the Battle Group or whatever it is, the Overseer shoots D3 of them should they suffer a Perils of the Warp result. Might want to give that some thought.

Bregalad
05-04-2009, 18:30
The Reaper ones (Jasmin and Bladedancer) are certainly what I'm looking for, unfortuantly I can't find anywhere in the UK that sells them.
Your google.fu is meak, young padawan.
First google entry: http://www.leisuregames.com/acatalog/Main_Catalogue_Dark_Heaven__Reaper_Miniatures__111 0.html
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=4&CategoryID=21
and so on ...

Bunnahabhain
05-04-2009, 19:27
Same with the Dark Eldar slave girls me thinks. Another question thougth I found resin sprues online for Female Cadians. Anybody know if you can still get these or did the legal s******** stop that.


I've got some.

They were produced with the permission of GW, so that's not the problem.

If I recall correctly, we got permission to produce them, as they were not for profit, and a limited production run.

You can try contacting the caster, to see if he has any left. Dr Thunder,a member round here.

RexTalon
05-04-2009, 19:53
OP, I'm really glad you brought this up. I've been wanting to do this for a long time. Now that the rules are going to support it, I'll be doing something very similar. I've actually been thinking of using greenstuff to make belly dancers out of the new deamonettes.

Don't mind the naysayers in this thread. You don't need to make up a backstory. Tallarn make a fine backdrop for this. Anyone who says otherwise either hasn't read the same book we have or failed to understand it.

RichBlake
05-04-2009, 20:02
Don't mind the naysayers in this thread. You don't need to make up a backstory. Tallarn make a fine backdrop for this. Anyone who says otherwise either hasn't read the same book we have or failed to understand it.

I'd like to know what book you read that said it's an everyday occurance for Tallarns to include groups of psychic bellydancing women... or perhaps that was a part of a book that I'm too simple to understand.

Cypher, the Emperor
06-04-2009, 00:08
Mega miniatures makes 28mm scale arabian harem dancers, along with a whole arabian retinue (A firebreather would make a cool psyker too!)
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/MegaMiniatures_1-50-Arabian?_fsub=281883011&_sid=2577791&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14&_pgn=2

Also, maybe Warmachine Daughters of the Flame:
http://www.privateerpress.com/WARMACHINE/gallery/default.php?level=picture&id=326

And warmachine Idrians make good tallarn snipers too:
http://www.privateerpress.com/WARMACHINE/gallery/default.php?level=picture&id=367

madprophet
06-04-2009, 00:21
I am doing Arab inspired Chaos Guard to go with my Malal worshiping Chaos Marine force, I like your idea of using dancers as the Psychic Court. Reaper's belly-dancers and some figs from the Hasselfree line are your best best (I'm using the Reaper girls along with Vect's slave chicks for the dancers and a rather nasty looking Arabian guard - I'm not 100% sure of the provenance but I want to say it's a Reaper Warlord figure - to keep the riff-raff away from the girls.

RexTalon
06-04-2009, 01:17
I'd like to know what book you read that said it's an everyday occurance for Tallarns to include groups of psychic bellydancing women... or perhaps that was a part of a book that I'm too simple to understand.

Why does it have to be an every day occurrence for OP or me to use them in their army? Why does it even have to be written in a BL book? Why does it need YOUR seal of approval? Why can't someone have an original idea or one that is somewhat inspired by a story without someone going ultra extreme in their unfounded "canon" beliefs? Why does everyone feel the need to wave their beliefs in someone's face and say that they can't build an army a certain way, or that they better have a good explanation?

That's the part people seem too simple to understand.

The story wasn't even really important but my comment was referring to those people who think that Tallarn are superstitious and wouldn't allow a psyker in their army when clearly the idea they're refuting had already been broached by the BL story in question.

"Oh, Tallarn would never allow this"
Bullcrap!!!

There are different tribes with different beliefs. There are also other planets similar to Tallarn with their own beliefs.
OP, make your own army. You don't need anyone to back you up.

RichBlake
06-04-2009, 02:08
Obviously you've got some sort of attitude problem so I'm going to deal with this objectivley.



Why does it have to be an every day occurrence for OP or me to use them in their army?


It doesn't, but as I said since it's not an everyday occurrence then you'll need a bloody good explanation.


Why does it even have to be written in a BL book? Why does it need YOUR seal of approval? Why can't someone have an original idea or one that is somewhat inspired by a story without someone going ultra extreme in their unfounded "canon" beliefs? Why does everyone feel the need to wave their beliefs in someone's face and say that they can't build an army a certain way, or that they better have a good explanation?


I was responding this comment made by none other then yourself:




Don't mind the naysayers in this thread. You don't need to make up a backstory. Tallarn make a fine backdrop for this. Anyone who says otherwise either hasn't read the same book we have or failed to understand it.

Bold is mine for emphasis.

You said that anyone who said Tallarns wouldn't use psykers (or more accurately we said it wouldn't be common) hasn't, and I quote, "read the same book we have or failed to understand it". I then replied wondering what book you read that specifically states that Tallarns, or even a formation of Tallarns, field groups of psykers as a matter of course.

You then responded by what is quite frankly a ridiculous display of unwarranted insulting posting. In short, the internet at it's best.



That's the part people seem too simple to understand.

Insulting the intelligence of other posters? Check.


The story wasn't even really important but my comment was referring to those people who think that Tallarn are superstitious and wouldn't allow a psyker in their army when clearly the idea they're refuting had already been broached by the BL story in question.

Ummm so firstly you attack the Black Library books saying that they aren't an appropriate source to determine what is and what isn't fluffy, then you fallback on the Black Library as a way to support your argument?

Hypocrisy? Check

The Tallarns are deeply religious in a hard line way, not necessarily superstitious. Since part of the hard line Imperial religion is a deep mistrust, even hatred, of psykers.

I said that you'd need a good explanation, other said there would need a good explanation, someone mentioned a novel where a Tallarn Captain believe a psyker to be a prophet from the Emperor. I said "Yeah sure that's a good explanation".

I really don't see what your problem is or where your hostility has come from.


"Oh, Tallarn would never allow this"
Bullcrap!!!

We never said that, we said that due to the nature of the Tallarn people you'd need a good explanation. Not that it couldn't be done.


There are different tribes with different beliefs. There are also other planets similar to Tallarn with their own beliefs.

No, in 40K nations on planets are largely a thing of the past. There is nothing anywhere to even suggest that on Tallarn there are different tribes with different interpretations of the Religion of Terra. That said again a decent story about a tribe cold be worked out to explain it, but it'd have to be more in depth then that attempt.



OP, make your own army. You don't need anyone to back you up.

You're right the OP doesn't need some back them up, most importantly not you. No-one once said that the OP shouldn't do it, I was just pointing out that a good backstory will stop any criticism of including the unit, then you decide to accosted me with your board posts or some imaginary crusade on the OP's behalf...

Orcboy_Phil
06-04-2009, 02:19
The only reason you need for the inclusion of ANYTHING in an Imperial Guard army is that they where told too. Simple as that. Yes differen't regiments have there own traditions, but in the end there Guardsmen and Guardsmen have one purpose and thats to act as a tool for the Imperium. The High Lords consider the feelings of there Guard as much as I consider the felings of a hammer.
The reason I'm looking for these models is I like the Tallarn range and had a crazy silly idea about including female pyskers who have a romantic Arabian theme about them.

madprophet
06-04-2009, 02:54
You can always go the renegade route, or make them secessionists, or make them traitors.

I like the idea of secessionists myself. You can tell the fluff nazis to bugger-off and pretty much take things any direction you want.

I am seriously considering rewriting the fluff for my guard army as secessionist for just this reason

Wintermute
06-04-2009, 19:33
Can we all start to discuss this topic in a civilised manner?

Because if not, I'll be very uncivilised to anyone who ignores my warning.

Wintermute

scarletsquig
06-04-2009, 21:03
would converting some of wargod basti Harems and Camp followers work
http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/list_items.asp?CatID=24&SubID=23&pageHeading=Items%20-%20Miniatures%20-%20Aegyptus

Those were the first models I thought of after looking at the title.

Unfortunately the paws and fur might be a little problematic. :P

Axel
06-04-2009, 21:07
I support the Helldorado-idea, though they can be a bit pricey:

http://www.fantasyladen.de/helldorado/helr06_sa_2.jpg
http://www.fantasyladen.de/helldorado/hellr04sa.jpg

Dark Sword has some good minis in that direction, though you have to take a pick:
http://www.darkswordminiatures.com/gallery/p_set3_Dancing_Girl.htm

Freebooter might have some:
http://www.freebooterminiatures.de/inhalt/news/galleriepics/WEI008_green_07thumb.jpg
http://www.freebooterminiatures.de/shop/index.php?act=SHOP&CODE=03&WGP=2&art=468 (well, not really arabic)

Some Resina planet have that arabic touch:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=2964&xSec=74
http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=3827&xSec=74
http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=3828&xSec=74
http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=3830&xSec=74

And if you are simply looking for good looking female sorcerers, try these from CMM:
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1386&product=CMM_F0802800
http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG1386&product=CMM_F0703200