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Crube
16-12-2005, 11:09
Apparantly (according to a local *ahem* redshirt) there will be a big push on Mordheim next year.

This comes from the fact that they have all been told to produce Mordheim gangs in preparation for diplay and running stuff in store...

Jedi152
16-12-2005, 11:23
Hmmm. It was mentioned that WD would be running a Mordheim campaign soon, like the recent Necromunda one...

Never really played Mordheim, but it looks like 2006 is going to be the year to get into it!

samael
16-12-2005, 11:25
I hope that that's true.
It would be a good reason to dust of my witchhunters once again.

dancingmonkey
16-12-2005, 11:51
Its true, were gonna get a few of the core boxes and blisters in for a while, same as with epic/necromunda and warmaster did over the last year.

Hopefully this is a positive sign for the fanatic stuff, although im not holding my breath.

Shadowheart
16-12-2005, 12:02
In the words of Peregrin Took, well that's good news. I'm just getting into Mordheim with my friends, in fact I'm basing a pair of Middenheim Youngbloods right now. Waiting for the PVA glue to dry.
Even if it's just the old stuff in stores that'll be convenient. Hopefully they'll put a few of the Fanatic minis in stores too for a bit. The Elf Mage, for instance.

Griefbringer
16-12-2005, 12:08
Well, my local independent store just managed to get rid of the last of their Mordheim stuff earlier this year.

dancingmonkey
16-12-2005, 12:20
don't expect to see many blister, if any at all! I can almost definately say that there will be no elf mage. But then thats what the instore order point is for, free instore postage if you order over £25.

Oh my god, I think that counts as advertising, shoot me please!

Shadowheart
16-12-2005, 12:42
*shoots dancingmonkey*

Pretty useless service anyway to all of us who don't live near a GW store. So what are they going to put in stores then? Just the starter set that most independant retailers around here still have one or two of?

Griefbringer
16-12-2005, 15:13
Starter set surely is of questionable value (other than for the nice building ruins) with the plastic models having been released in regimental boxes and the rulebook available as a free download.

Insane Alex
16-12-2005, 16:28
I don't really see the point of specific Mordheim miniatures, as Warhammer models do the job well enough.

Crube
16-12-2005, 16:32
Will this see the end of the online Rule book?

Griefbringer
16-12-2005, 17:26
I don't really see the point of specific Mordheim miniatures, as Warhammer models do the job well enough.

Which ones you would use for the Sisters of Sigmar?

I think that while the Mordheim figures can easily do double duty in WHFB, the plain WHFB models don't really have sufficient diversity for all the Mordheim needs.

Cpt. Drill
16-12-2005, 19:12
Hopefully there will be a revamp of the rules... because Mordheim is one of the most repetative games ever... there are mainly two bbattles.. both ganges charge towards each other and who ever has the charge wins... or you fight that gang with 5-6 BS5-6 shooters and then you fight and lose...

maybe its our gaming group (the necromunder two heavy stubbers kind!) but the best part of mordheim is the EXP. system its so simple and easy... and easy to abuse.. :(

Melchor
16-12-2005, 19:18
Will this see the end of the online Rule book?

Looks like I'll be downloading me a copy of the living rulebook soon! :D

I'd love to see a new in-store campaign by the way. I loved Necromunda back in the day, and I'd love to take a shot a Mordheim.

Rabid Bunny 666
16-12-2005, 19:26
sweet, i wanted to start for ages, so now its between marienburgers and those delightful carnival lads

Trunks
16-12-2005, 19:31
Starter set surely is of questionable value (other than for the nice building ruins) with the plastic models having been released in regimental boxes and the rulebook available as a free download.

The rulebook is thrown in almost for free when you add up the cost of the two warbands and an estimated cost of the terrain (I don't think it was available outside of the box in any form, there was Blood on the Streets but that is different stuff). I think it is a pretty decent value, as long as the skaven models get used (the Empire one's nearly always get used in some fashion).

Hlokk
16-12-2005, 19:35
In responce to my letter published in WD 316, Guy said that Mordheim would be covered next by WD (Fuel for the furnace, letter called "Vote of Confidence")

Griefbringer
16-12-2005, 20:10
The rulebook is thrown in almost for free when you add up the cost of the two warbands and an estimated cost of the terrain (I don't think it was available outside of the box in any form, there was Blood on the Streets but that is different stuff).

Well, I think in the box there was 18 models, slightly less than the 20 contained in an Empire Militia or Skaven Runners regiment box. You are pretty much right about the terrain not being available anywhere else - except for the one piece that made it to the WHFB 6th edition boxed set (though it could have also been from the Blood on the Streets, I am not all sure).

Jedi152
19-12-2005, 08:37
In responce to my letter published in WD 316, Guy said that Mordheim would be covered next by WD (Fuel for the furnace, letter called "Vote of Confidence")
How do you know? if you send them a letter that tells you which issue your letter is going to be in?

Or can you see the future? :p

Griefbringer
19-12-2005, 11:00
Or can you see the future? :p

Perhaps he has used Bubble Ghost Games Workshop-O-Predictor? :eek:

Or perhaps he just typed the number wrong.

Hlokk
19-12-2005, 11:17
quite possably the wrong number, then gain, dont the numbers work differently in the uk?

It was the one before the black templars came out anyway.

dancingmonkey
19-12-2005, 11:55
oh yeah, Blood on the Streets will be available in store again.

Just thought you might like to know.

Boxes will be WitchHunters, Sisters, Chaos Possesed and umm, Crap, can't remember the last one!

Griefbringer
19-12-2005, 12:12
Would that be undead (von Carstein and crew)?

Vogon
19-12-2005, 22:32
Hmmm

The one thing I'd like to know is, if they're restocking with Mordheim will the book be the updated on (i.e. the living rulebook with all the tweaks and updates) or the original one? As my own copy is a rather battered second hand one I may be interested in getting a shiny new version.

It really is a rather fine game.

The miniatures also make great character additions for WFB too

Have fun

Vogon

boogle
20-12-2005, 00:25
Considering that Epic will have the Febuary SG slot (for the Feral Ork stuff), i would imagine that Mordheim will be the August SG release (maybe with revamped models for Possessed, Witchunters and Sisters of Sigmar (as the resculpts were poor to say the least)

neXus6
20-12-2005, 00:35
I really hope they don't try to "update" the rules like they did with Necromunda, that turned into a right balls up.

I've got 2/3s of a box of empire milita waiting to be turned into a Mordheim warband, but that said I'd much rather have Witchhunters or Possessed, it was just the cheap option cause my friend had the militia going spare. :D

But really they can't hope to keep the "Specialist Games" alive, with the odd campaign, they need to put things back to how it was, when there was no such thing as Specialist Games, just "other games made by the company."
*sigh*
Poor Poor, Blood Bowl, Space Hulk, Necromunda, Mordheim...:(

New Cult King
20-12-2005, 07:09
I'd play it if Mordheim made provision for a Chaos Marauder warband, rather than the dismal Possessed. Some of the Possessed minis are ok, but the actual possessed guy looks like... poo.

f2k
20-12-2005, 08:32
Hmm, how does this correlate to the recent disappearance of many of the Mordheim figs. from MO? Does this mean that we’ll see a re-release…?

Howlinggriffon
20-12-2005, 08:43
I'd play it if Mordheim made provision for a Chaos Marauder warband, rather than the dismal Possessed. Some of the Possessed minis are ok, but the actual possessed guy looks like... poo.

Just convert your own models then - you don't have to use the Possessed warband if you don't like them. Just use the same rules...

Howlinggriffon
20-12-2005, 08:51
Hmm, how does this correlate to the recent disappearance of many of the Mordheim figs. from MO? Does this mean that we’ll see a re-release…?

The models were removed as GW were trying to consolidate the range between the UK and US - that way they only have one catalogue. They did say that certain models may be made available in short runs every now and again though. I doubt we'll see anything new made specifically for Mordheim though...

Griefbringer
20-12-2005, 10:36
I've got 2/3s of a box of empire milita waiting to be turned into a Mordheim warband, but that said I'd much rather have Witchhunters or Possessed, it was just the cheap option cause my friend had the militia going spare.

It is not like you couldn't turn the militia into witch hunters or possessed with some converting and bits box looting.

Say, grab a chaos mutation sprue and you will be able to put together a handful of mutants. Or grab a White Wolf/Middenheim sprue for the hairy heads and you will soon have a bunch of zealots!

Ray K.
10-01-2006, 05:56
I love Mordheim enough to fear for the fact that GW is going to touch it again. We can all look forward to price raises and useless rule books :D

I hope something good comes of this, though. I really DO enjoy Mordheim.

BlazeXI
10-01-2006, 08:46
Never played any of the Specialist Games, but Mordheim minis are excellent. I have the 3 Vampires as my von Carsteins, Mordheim Dwarfs for the WHFB Dwarfs (Mordheim Lord was just converted to BSB - awaiting painting end of february) and recently collected Which Hunter minis (e-bay) for an empire army. They make an excellent addition for WHFB. I hope to see future releases, like the "mounted and on foot Captains" blister for Wich Hunters as the Marienburgers, Middenheimers and Reiklanders had. Not for Mordheim, but for WHFB. They are an interesting alternative for the dull ranges (Empire, VC). This could be a cure for older armies awaiting their rerelease and model range change.

Howlinggriffon
10-01-2006, 09:51
Specialist Games are going to be the lowest priority for GW - don't expect any new releases for a good while. The only reason they're "getting a push" is because the White Dwarf lads have been planning a campaign that they can write about in the mag, as happened with Necromunda last year. You might see a few of the warband boxes appear in the GW stores for a few months - but that will be it.

t-tauri
10-01-2006, 21:09
Probably trying to clear the warehouse of Mordheim boxes and whatever surplus stock of old warband boxes they've got left. I don't expect any new stuff based on the release list.

ironduke
11-01-2006, 14:20
isnt the new version of warhammer planned for this year. Their probably thinking of doing this beforehand and doing it as a run up to the new edition.

tkkultist
17-01-2006, 19:23
Im very excited for some mordheim focus - even if it is just reissue. The added exposure will help to bring a bunch of people around who are interested in trying it out. My local club has been working on some new scenery and scenarios in anticipation. To avoid the "same ol' game" syndrome each local player is supposed to come up with a mission which I will then edit and we will add to our league book. Some of them are very challenging while others end up being simple plot twists or themes. It is a lot of fun this way.

Sandlemad
17-01-2006, 23:01
How is it that Mordheim ended up with such a characterful and well sculpted range of models?
I'm thinking in comparison to, say, Necromunda, which is a similiar format, yet has only average minis.

Mad Makz
17-01-2006, 23:20
How is it that Mordheim ended up with such a characterful and well sculpted range of models?
I'm thinking in comparison to, say, Necromunda, which is a similiar format, yet has only average minis.

Age mainly.

Necromunda was done well before Mordheim, and the quality of sculptors and the expertise in plastics at the time was a lot lower. I think some of the Necromunda models were very characterful (A lot of the Escher models, and the Delaque although the Delaque did end up a bit 'samey'). The necromunda plastics of the day where limited by the plastic moulding technology of the time (very limited compared to todays high tech moulds.)

Also, GW knew that a lot of the Mordheim models would find their way into Fantasy armies (the plastic kits from the box especially) so I imagine more effort was put in.

The more recent sculpts for Necromunda where work for hire pieces organised by specialist games, and the quality of sculptors was not the same as those for GW.

Quin 242
18-01-2006, 01:28
BloodBowl was the first GW game I ever saw and then from there I said.. hey Necromunda only has like 10 guys.. I can afford that.. now I have an entire room full of crap.

It's like the specialist games are the gateway drugs.. they need to get them back out there to get the hardcore addicts on line :)

thunderwolf
19-01-2006, 23:36
So what can we expect from the big Mordheim sales pitch in WD? A few battle reports from the staff campaign like the Necromunda articles last year, or something more interesting? I'm not expecting much, but hopefully will be pleasantly surprised with some new rules, scenarios etc.

Any ideas?

Quin 242
20-01-2006, 04:48
It'd be great if they playtested some of the Questionable warbands and put them out as official.

A solid FAQ would be great too.. :)

thunderwolf
21-01-2006, 01:14
Well, seems my question was answered- found the new WD on my way out the door this morning.

There are going to be articles for the next 3 month centring round the staff campaign. It seems more interesting than last year's Necromunda one though. Each warband gets is joined by a priest of Morr with a hidden agenda, giving the campaign a bit more cohesion. Next month there will be a few new scenarios specific to locations in the area.

All in all, not quite as wondrous as what you suggested, Quin, but not too shabby either. All I need now is to convince some of my mates that it really would be good for their health if they invested in a warband :evilgrin:

Quin 242
21-01-2006, 13:35
Well, seems my question was answered- found the new WD on my way out the door this morning.

There are going to be articles for the next 3 month centring round the staff campaign. It seems more interesting than last year's Necromunda one though. Each warband gets is joined by a priest of Morr with a hidden agenda, giving the campaign a bit more cohesion. Next month there will be a few new scenarios specific to locations in the area.

All in all, not quite as wondrous as what you suggested, Quin, but not too shabby either. All I need now is to convince some of my mates that it really would be good for their health if they invested in a warband :evilgrin:

The best part about that is that if they already play WHFB that they already are likely to have the models they need ready for thier favorite warband. Sisters, gladiators, and amazons excepted of course.
All the other warbands are easy enough to pick from different units and you are set.

so this set of articles is UK specific right? and it sounds like it's battle reports and some scenarios? Any new rules sets and I wanna get someone to send me the WD in question dammit!!

Howlinggriffon
21-01-2006, 20:10
There won't be any new rules - Nick Kyme, Mordheim deity that he is, is just writing a campaign for this particular staff challenge for White Dwarf. Nick is on the Mordheim Rules Review Committee and he's an old hand at writing articles for the Town Cryer magazine - he wrote a lot of the Empire in Flames articles so you can always depend on him to write some great storylines to weave into the gaming.

Nick and Owen Rees came to my gaming club in December to do a report on the club for White Dwarf (to be see in UK WD 316) - they also brought along their Mordheim warbands and had a game on our scenery to get in the mood for their WD campaign (my club was in the middle of our own Mordheim campaign...) Owen hadn't even read the rulebook for Mordheim at that point and we all chipped in to give him pointers as he was playing against Nick who, to be fair, it a bit of an expert. Nick said at the time that he'd written some rules for each warband to take a Priest of Morr and that everyone had had to convert their own as the classic Amethyst Wizard model was no longer made by GW - it was then I produced mine from my carry case :) I'd had the forsight to buy one before GW stopped making them - hehe!

Priest of Morr piccy (http://www.howlinggriffon.co.uk/resource/misc/priest%20of%20morr.jpg)

Anyway - it should be a good set of articles and I'm hopeful that it will encourage more gamers to give the game a try. I'd encourage people to buy the actual rulebook rather than download it as it is one of the most stylish that GW have produced - lots of amazing artwork and great background stories to set the scene. Worth every penny...

Quin 242
22-01-2006, 02:16
[QUOTE=Howlinggriffon] Nick said at the time that he'd written some rules for each warband to take a Priest of Morr and that everyone had had to convert their own as the classic Amethyst Wizard model was no longer made by GW - it was then I produced mine from my carry case :) I'd had the forsight to buy one before GW stopped making them - hehe!

Priest of Morr piccy (http://www.howlinggriffon.co.uk/resource/misc/priest%20of%20morr.jpg)
QUOTE]

That's kinda funny cause I have that model from WAYYYY back.. it was like the fist Warhammer Fantasy model I bought.. I used him as an apothecary for my very first bloodbowl team :)

He's just been in a shoe box for like 15 years now :)

Satan
26-01-2006, 08:55
I'd LOVE to see some new rules. Not that there aren't enough though... I'd just like more official warbands to use with Empire in flames for example....

crashbang
26-01-2006, 10:35
maybe its just me, but in the last few years theyve been bringing specialist games back. space hulk rules are online, epic 40k got revamped, mordheim etc.