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Colonel Marbi Chora
19-04-2009, 08:32
Howdy, Colonel Marbi Chora here. I've receantly started to work with Inquisitor models, and I have a question that hopefully could be answered.

My main charactor has an affinity for pistols, revolvers to be specific. I've done a little bit of looking around the internet, but I can't find a place that sells weapons or pistols that are of the 54mm range. Sometimes there are models with interesiting weapons, but I can't afford the cost at the moment. Does anybody have an idea where I could find a website that supplies weapons tha are 54mm?

If there isn't anything like that, are there any links or threads that show how to make them yourself? I'm not a very good greenstuffer, but I could use some practice if neccessary.

Thanks in advance,

The Colonel

Askil the Undecided
19-04-2009, 12:12
Here's some eyecandy if nothing else some Andrea guns. (http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/Detalle.asp?IdProductoDetalle=938)

There's plenty about on the Andrea website if you don't mind trying to navigate in spanish.

precinctomega
19-04-2009, 12:56
You can also butcher 40k weapons quite nicely. The Necromunda pistol sprue works just fine at 54mm. Or get yourself along to the Arcadian Smugglers' Ring for trades and swaps.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/arcadiansmugglers/

R.

Colonel Marbi Chora
20-04-2009, 06:09
Here's some eyecandy if nothing else some Andrea guns. (http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/Detalle.asp?IdProductoDetalle=938)

There's plenty about on the Andrea website if you don't mind trying to navigate in spanish.

I've gone through the Andrea Website, and it looks promising. But It might prove difficult to get the weapons in the hands of the INQ models.


You can also butcher 40k weapons quite nicely. The Necromunda pistol sprue works just fine at 54mm. Or get yourself along to the Arcadian Smugglers' Ring for trades and swaps.

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/arcadiansmugglers/

R.

I tried some 40k weapons, they work nicely, but no revolovers. Terminator Assault cannons work well for a carapiece-padded arm holding a heavy stubber though.

I can't find the necromunda pistol sprue on ebay, but I just joined the Arcadian Smugglers. I'll start poking around there.

kaled
20-04-2009, 12:31
I wouldn't bother with the Andrea weapons - I bought some and they've proved a big waste of money. They'd look small even in the hands of 28mm GW models (goes to show once again just how oversized GW weapons are). Necromunda weapons would be far better for 54mm models - I have a few and they're a pretty good size.

Ambience 327
20-04-2009, 19:28
The GW Inquisitor model "Slick Devlan" carries a revolver in his left hand...

Colonel Marbi Chora
20-04-2009, 19:41
I wouldn't bother with the Andrea weapons - I bought some and they've proved a big waste of money. They'd look small even in the hands of 28mm GW models (goes to show once again just how oversized GW weapons are). Necromunda weapons would be far better for 54mm models - I have a few and they're a pretty good size.
Oh, that's a shame.

Which necromunda set would be best? From what I saw the redemptionist gang seems to have the most pistols, but I'm not too sure.


The GW Inquisitor model "Slick Devlan" carries a revolver in his left hand...

Ah yes, Slick Devlan. I decided that if I couldn't find enough weapons, or the right kind, I would get that model. I'm leaning towards it, it's USD 30, right?

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 18:02
Could someone please identify the weapon that this eldar ranger has attached to his left arm? Is it just a shuriken pistol?

Also, could someone please expalin how Artemis's shot selector works? His profile says he has A boltgun with shot selector and twio reloads and a number of exotic rounds. Does that mean he has three total magazines plus the exotic rounds or are those exotic rounds loaded into to two extra magazines?

Any help on these queries would be great.

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 18:04
Oops I forgot to post the picture of the eldar. Here it is: http://www.coolminiornot.com/213760

Catferret
22-04-2009, 18:15
Could someone please identify the weapon that this eldar ranger has attached to his left arm? Is it just a shuriken pistol?

Sorry, I can't see any Eldar ranger picture.


Also, could someone please expalin how Artemis's shot selector works?

The boltgun is loaded with one magazine of standard ammunition. When that runs out he has 2 further magazines of standard ammunition he can reload in as normal. The shot selector makes no difference to the reloads.

The boltgun has some additional magazines (4) of special ammunition that are also loaded in the gun at the same time as the standard ammo. He does not carry reloads for these.

The shot selector allows him to spend an action to switch from standard ammunition to one of the specialist types without having to remove and swap a currently loaded type. Basically, it's a time saving device.

kaled
22-04-2009, 19:02
Could someone please identify the weapon that this eldar ranger has attached to his left arm? Is it just a shuriken pistol?It could be meant to represent a shuriken weapon, however it's mounted like a Harelquin's Kiss so it might be ment to represent one of those.

In any case, I'm guessing it's modelled using a 40k shuriken catapult (maybe a pistol, I'm not a big expert on the Eldar range).

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 19:11
I purchased this mini on ebay and I am trying to classify it. As you point out, it is attached to his arm like a harlequins kiss but it is shuriken shaped. It looks too big to be a pistol but too small for a full blown catapult.

Could a ranger carry a harlequins kiss? Are there any rules for HKs for Inquisitor? Anyone have any further suggestions?

kaled
22-04-2009, 19:24
IIRC I suggested some rules for the HK on here some time ago (never playtested them though) - you might be able to find those. It's not normally something a ranger would carry, but if you can come up with a good story as to why he has one, then why not use it as a HK?

Or you could just use it as a wrist mounted shuriken pistol.

It's entirely up to you.

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 19:26
Thanks Catferret, that makes sense.

Has anyone tried out the darkmagenta rules for Space Marines? I understand they are designed to make a Astartes play more realistically but they seem cumbersome.

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 19:28
It is definitely of a Shuriken type. My prototype story for this guy would not suit him having a HK so i think I will go with a SP.

Thanks Kaled.

Lothar Hex
22-04-2009, 19:30
Sorry to keep harping about this same eldar. I am doing a crashcourse in eldar lore. He has two vents on the back of his jacket and I am trying to figure out their significance or purpose with a view to appropriate rules.

Any suggections? You can see them protruding behind in the above link. I should really take some better pictures of his gear.

Ynek
23-04-2009, 12:02
The vents have been added. They do not come on the normal ranger model.
They look reminiscant of guardian armour, so perhaps the model was initially supposed to represent some sort of eldar guardian/ranger? Either that, or he just happened to get his paws on some guardian armour somehow.

The fact that the armour seems to fit him indicates that the armour is in fact his own, so I don't think that he'd have stolen it. Perhaps he was originally going to join the black guardians, but then heard the tales told by a ranger visiting the craftworld, and got the urge to go adventuring. Thus, he changed onto the path of the outcast (much to the annoyance of the powers that be).

Just an idea for your background. ^_^

Lothar Hex
23-04-2009, 16:19
Excellent, I think I will run with that.

Colonel Marbi Chora
24-04-2009, 06:17
Another question. Has anyone tried to use the Cities of death buildings for Inquisitor Terrain?

kaled
24-04-2009, 06:48
I've seen a few people do that - it looks good. Almost all 28mm terrain works perfectly well at 54mm.

Catferret
24-04-2009, 12:44
The Cities of Death stuff is fine for the most part. Only issue comes from dynamically posed models refusing to fit between floors. :D

precinctomega
24-04-2009, 13:05
They used to make NEC weapon booster packs - just the weapons on a metal sprue. These don't seem to be available at the moment, but keep your eyes peeled!

The Eldar in that picture is a conversion and has a Harlequin's Kiss (or possibly a wrist-mounted shurken pistol) made from the shuriken catapult that comes from the Wraithlord. My interpretation of the Harlequin's Kiss can be seen here:

http://www.coolminiornot.com/209122

Whilst the HK is not traditionally carried by anyone outside the Harlequin corps, the whole point of INQ is to mess with the traditional axioms of 40k, so I don't see any problem with giving one to a ranger.

The DM rules for space marines are great. Check out DM3 for a dedicated character sheet to keep track of the implants and their effects.

The vanes (they aren't vents) on the back of Eldar warriors are multi-purpose. They serve as communications arrays and data-collection antennae and as stabilizing fins that help the Eldar to retain their racial agility even in high-grav or zero-grav environments*.

R.

*I made all that up, but it sounds good, doesn't it? You can represent their use in INQ by giving your Eldar characters Acrobatic, Catfall and Nightvision (which they tend to have anyway, TBH).

Colonel Marbi Chora
24-04-2009, 20:59
I've seen a few people do that - it looks good. Almost all 28mm terrain works perfectly well at 54mm.

Well, looks like I know what i'm using! I've been planning a necromunda/cityfight board for a while, and since it'll work with INQ, that's a bonus! I was a little skeptical about the doors, they seem really small- like closets really.


The Cities of Death stuff is fine for the most part. Only issue comes from dynamically posed models refusing to fit between floors. :D

Ah, that'll be tough. Especially for artemis. Well, at least it'll keep him from charging through the door... or he'll just break it down :D

precinctomega
25-04-2009, 18:27
I should have added that my club makes extensive use of the Amera Plastics range, which works really well for 54mm models.

R.

Lothar Hex
26-04-2009, 19:36
How does Tyrus's powerfist/power knife comnination work?

A power fist has 2d10+5 dam. and a power knife has 3d6 dam. When Tyrus hits is the damage 2d10+5+3d6? I ask this because the power knife is mounted on the fist and appears to be combined.

This doesn't seem to make sense if a special grab attack gets gets 4d10 (i.e. you can potentionally do more damage with the power fist if its damage can be added with that of the power knife, in which case why would you ever go for the grab?).

If the damages are not comblined the knife would seem somewhat redundant in that you would always go for the power fist attack instead.

I am confused. Some wise sage help me please.

Thanks in advance.

Lothar Hex
26-04-2009, 19:40
That miniature you made is incredible. Well done. Do you do any commissions?

I think I will go with a wrist mounted shuriken pistol. Its construction appears to be more shuriken based.

Lothar Hex
26-04-2009, 19:44
Oh, on closer inspection you do do commission work. Disregard question.

Colonel Marbi Chora
26-04-2009, 21:35
I should have added that my club makes extensive use of the Amera Plastics range, which works really well for 54mm models.

R.

Thank you, they look pretty good. Question though- Which scale is best for INQ? 1/35 or 1/72? I'm lacking knowledge of scale differences.

precinctomega
01-05-2009, 14:32
1/35 is a little smaller than 54mm, but works pretty well.

R.

Magos Errant
01-05-2009, 23:27
Do you guys know id 1/32nd Scale is 54mm? My local independent gaming store had a a ton of WW2 models, and some are 1/32nd scale German Infantry. I could probably use those for INQ, as a Inquisitor's bodyguard or something....

precinctomega
02-05-2009, 09:23
1:32 is almost precisely 54mm. You can get a lot of vehicle models in this scale, but figures in 1:32 are much rarer.

Some recent Tamiya releases at 1:32 work well as cheap INQ models. They may look a little short as GW's INQ range - in common with Black Library's fiction - tends to equate moral heroism with heroic stature, but they'll be fine. Noting that GW's sculpts also tend towards bulkiness (although not without exception), you'll want to 40kify the 1:32 figures. Ork shoulder pads and weapons, space marine bolters and gubbins from the various ranges are usually enough to give them that "Dark Millennium" feel.

R.

Magos Errant
02-05-2009, 11:40
Excellent. I'll try that soon. Thanks.