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Martin Brody
30-04-2009, 01:13
Hello,

I am starting an Empire Warhammer Fantasy army and was wondering what size, points wise, should I aim for? Like in 40k it seems that 1750pt games seem to be the most common, so does Fantasy have an average game size or is it based to much of region?

Thanks,

Infectum
30-04-2009, 01:45
common tourneys tend to be 2250, which allows for enough goodies while still not being able to take the whole book. For no lord games 1500 gives you a good amount.

Cats Laughing
30-04-2009, 01:46
I think 2250pts is the current Tourney points value, which makes for a lot of people posting lists at that size.

That said, you'll find that each gaming group has their own standards, which may or may not be based on tournament play.

I think it's safe to shoot for 2000pts while you search for the local group(s) and find out what they play.

Erie Ed
30-04-2009, 03:12
2500 to 3000pts should give you plenty of variety

szlachcic
30-04-2009, 03:19
We mainly play 2250 points even though my group doesn't really consist of tournament players. I guess you could go up to 2500 and still have the same effect, however I would save a 3000 point limit until you have some more experience as to not bog things down.

I recently played a 1500 point battle for the first time in ages and have to say I had a blast. I liked not having to worry about tooled up lord choices and it provided a nicely paced game. This would be a great size to start with and would make painting more manageable, which is a good think considering you are playing Empire.

Erie Ed
30-04-2009, 03:39
We mainly play 2250 points even though my group doesn't really consist of tournament players. I guess you could go up to 2500 and still have the same effect, however I would save a 3000 point limit until you have some more experience as to not bog things down.

I recently played a 1500 point battle for the first time in ages and have to say I had a blast. I liked not having to worry about tooled up lord choices and it provided a nicely paced game. This would be a great size to start with and would make painting more manageable, which is a good think considering you are playing Empire.

what i meant by having 3000pts is that in games 1000 to 2250pts it gives you more options of how to play your army ;)

The Red Scourge
30-04-2009, 12:58
Collecting 10K should give you a little variety :)

bob_the_small
30-04-2009, 13:08
Well mostly people play 2000 or 2250 point games.

selone
30-04-2009, 13:08
yeah and a little bank balance :D

Harwammer
30-04-2009, 13:26
Most people play 2k+ as this allows Lords to be selected.

Stuffburger
30-04-2009, 13:37
I have fun with a range- everything from small (250 point) warbands games all the way on up to 2k.

I'm in the middle of an escalation war with my roomy where we add 100 points every battle, starting at 500. Up to 1200 now and it's neat to see the dynamic evolving- from 2 real units at 500 with a single support and character to 1100, my last game, which is much more varied. Highly recommend you try something that starts small and scales up, great way to learn the rules and see how scale affects the game. Also lets you start small on miniatures buying and painting and work up (though if you play a horde, you won't keep up in all likelyhood).

O&G'sRule
30-04-2009, 14:13
2k, though theres alot of 1500 point games at the moment, theyre just quick and satisfy the urge, and theres less silly stuff

Duke Georgal
30-04-2009, 15:55
We always play 2,250 points.

That has pretty much become the unofficial standard size for a game.

Tae
30-04-2009, 16:15
We always play 2,250 points.

That has pretty much become the unofficial standard size for a game.

*In the US.

Europe still plays 2,000 (thankfully).

Keller
30-04-2009, 16:40
It depends where you are as to what the standard game size is. 2250 and 2000 are the most common for tournements and standard games. Groups can decide to play any point level.

Personally, my group's standard is 2000 points, but also play 1000, 1500, 2500, 3000, 4000 point games.

Dungeon_Lawyer
30-04-2009, 17:16
2250 ,best bang for the buck. escalation games are a blast start at 500 and work your way up

Desert Rain
30-04-2009, 17:26
Most games are played at either 2000 or 2250 points. I would advice you to buy around 3000 points because it gives you more to choose from in smaller games and it will also make you able to participate in bigger ones.

Baggers
30-04-2009, 20:56
My gaming buddies and I have recently started a campaign. We have taken an army we have models for. Worked out a 500 point battle then we play and paint those models till we have played each other once and add an extra 250 points on and then repeat.

Other than that any size really. No real hard and fast rule. Try playing 1999 point battles. All the fun of 2000 points, just no lords :)

badgeraddict
01-05-2009, 09:37
The average at my old gaming group was 3000pts.

Going to miss that. :(

PeG
01-05-2009, 09:45
Depends on where you play. In the local GW store most games are 500 sometimes up to 1k points. mini tournaments in the sotre is usually 500 points of 500 point doubles for a total of 1k.

When playing with other people I play anything from 500-2000 points and team games with up to 10k points in each team.

Comrade Crash
01-05-2009, 10:53
I think the time you normally have available to pay a game is a significat factor, as 3000 pts will take pretty much a whole afternoon and evening, which has meant a few unfinished games in the past.

Me and may mates found that 2000 pts works well as we usually get 2 games in the same time period.

Also 2000 pts is an easier target to aim for if stating a new army.