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Ranger S2H
12-05-2009, 17:04
today an article appeared on bell of lsot souls, which was about rumours of a new race for warhammer, 40k or fantasy. it said that the race will be non-human in nature.
in my experience, BOLS is pretty reliable with rumours, so I believe something is coming, but noone knows what.
if the race is for 40k what could this be?

exodite eldar?
zoats?
genestealer cult? (dont know if this qualifies as "non-human in nature"
has the squat-clock finally stopped counting down?

other questions:
what will be the "trademark" of a new army?
close-combat, shooty or balanced?
what would the models look like?

discuss

laudarkul
12-05-2009, 17:07
I read that article, but the fact that it stated that is not human just made me sad. Why? I hope it for a Adeptus Mechanicum/Dark Adeptus big codex with a lot of common stuff/models/vehicle.
So ...

Brimstone
12-05-2009, 17:08
What Bols didn't say is that the rumours mainly originate from here. ;)

You may want to check the fantasy rumours forum.

TimLeeson
12-05-2009, 17:09
40k desperately needs some variety, as in some aliens that arent humanoid because all we have so far are different coloured bipeds and bugs, pretty boring really. Heres hopin for an entirely new alien race with nothing humanoid whatsoever - hell if they do that it might be what I need to get back into 40k again!

Ranger S2H
12-05-2009, 17:14
What Bols didn't say is that the rumours mainly originate from here. ;)

You may want to check the fantasy rumours forum.

sorry:(, will check

LordofWar1986
12-05-2009, 17:20
I think that there needs a race in 40k that needs to be completely different from the current races. Sure you can have like dedicated shooting/cc specialists...but there could be the possibility of a very unique race. I have a couple ideas.....

1) A "necromancer" type of psyker army that relies on summoning like many weak "undead." Imagine the conversion opportunities for this army :)
2) How about a light walker dominant army, kinda like gundam suits....thats all I have for that one :p
3) A manipulation type of army. Think like lash of submission (something along those lines) and mirage type of abilities to completely disrupt an enemies battle plans.

Other then that I can say what anyone else wants as far as exodite eldar, genesteeler cult, etc etc.

Tonberry
12-05-2009, 17:27
I think that there needs a race in 40k that needs to be completely different from the current races. Sure you can have like dedicated shooting/cc specialists...but there could be the possibility of a very unique race. I have a couple ideas.....

1) A "necromancer" type of psyker army that relies on summoning like many weak "undead." Imagine the conversion opportunities for this army :)
2) How about a light walker dominant army, kinda like gundam suits....thats all I have for that one :p
3) A manipulation type of army. Think like lash of submission (something along those lines) and mirage type of abilities to completely disrupt an enemies battle plans.

Other then that I can say what anyone else wants as far as exodite eldar, genesteeler cult, etc etc.

1) = Necrons
2) = Tau

Scryer in the Darkness
12-05-2009, 17:27
sorry:(, will check

More specifically this thread:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191577

Kronos
12-05-2009, 17:30
unless it's dark ledar, non human... and to many although not new it would be a welcoming breath of fresh air.... we need more evil orientaited armies.


apart from dark eldar (which technically don't count as new)

there could be:

-kroot.. doubtful
-squats.. double as doubtful.
-Hrud (spelt right?)
-something absoloutley new, never seen before.

but all thats wishlisting.

Ravenheart
12-05-2009, 17:31
More specifically this thread:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191577

Wasn't this identified as a hoax? :confused:

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
12-05-2009, 17:32
The rumor referred to a games designer talking about the disparity of races between 40K and Fantasy. That post that the OP is referring to is talking about a new 40K race, not Fantasy.

Scryer in the Darkness
12-05-2009, 17:34
Wasn't this identified as a hoax? :confused:
If you can show me where, I'll be glad to know. It is a large part of BoLS's "news" item, I can tell you that much. ;)


The rumor referred to a games designer talking about the disparity of races between 40K ans Fantasy. That post that the OP is refering to is talking about a new 40K race, not Fantasy.

Huh? :confused:

Ravenheart
12-05-2009, 17:38
If you can show me where, I'll be glad to know. It is a large part of BoLS's "news" item, I can tell you that much. ;)

I have been loosly following that thread and afaik, at one point some people stated that this is a haox originating form a polish games event. Didn't look at the thread ever since. So it isn't? :confused:

Scryer in the Darkness
12-05-2009, 17:40
I have been loosly following that thread and afaik, at one point some people stated that this is a haox originating form a polish games event. Didn't look at the thread ever since. So it isn't? :confused:
I followed it loosely for the whole thread but boy(!) it got wacky in places. Like I said, if you can show where it was conclusively shown to be hoax, I'd love to know, 'cos it'd help me solidify what I took away from the thread! :D

Ravenheart
12-05-2009, 17:42
I followed it loosely for the whole thread but boy(!) it got wacky in places. Like I said, if you can show where it was conclusively shown to be hoax, I'd love to know, 'cos it'd help me solidify what I took away from the thread! :D

Nope, sorry can't nail it down. It's just a wibe I got from the whole thread. Time will tell, I guess.

Scryer in the Darkness
12-05-2009, 17:47
Nope, sorry can't nail it down. It's just a wibe I got from the whole thread. Time will tell, I guess.
There was a lot of tomfoolery and japery going on in that thread. :) Some interesting bits and pieces, but on the whole it was just a massive wishlist with a couple of people who were supposedly in the know fanning the flames but nothing really to back up anything.

Hoarmurel
12-05-2009, 17:48
I think BOLS people can be refering to the rumour about a third 40k codex this year that have been discussed here...

I have read in another thread that GW will not release any new race until all the existing ones can be updated, i think that one of the studio said next five years will be for the 'need to update' codexes.

About that 3rd codex this year, if we can believe it, i think we can guess with the things we know:



- Space wolves --> end 2009
- Dark eldar --> 2011 as sooner (?)
- Tyranids --> Next year as sooner
- Necrons --> 2010? 2011?
- Inquisition (daemonhunters and witchhunters) --> ?
- Tau --> ?
- Black Templars --> ?
- Blood Angels --> We have the WD codex... But GW said that this one only is a temporary patch, and we have the Space Hulk rumours...
- Eldar --> Has been said that this codex is updated to 5 ed.
- Dark Angels --> Their codex is updated to 5 (?)
- Chaos Daemons --> Codex updated.
- Chaos Space Marines --> Codex updated (?).
- Space Marines --> Codex updated.
- Orks --> Codex updated.
- Imperial Guard --> Codex updated.


I think that 'mistery codex' (if GW releases it eventually...) could be Blood Angels, Tau or Black Templars. These 3 codex don't need a lot of work, and they have models now.

LordofWar1986
12-05-2009, 17:49
1) = Necrons
2) = Tau

1) No
2) No

These two armies do not poses the abilities that I mentioned in my last post. Read my post a little bit more slowly and you will see that neither of these 2 races have these characteristics. ;)

Anyways, off topic a bit. I am done, I have said what I wanted to say in this thread.

Durath
12-05-2009, 17:56
today an article appeared on bell of lsot souls, which was about rumours of a new race for warhammer, 40k or fantasy. it said that the race will be non-human in nature.
in my experience, BOLS is pretty reliable with rumours, so I believe something is coming, but noone knows what.
if the race is for 40k what could this be?

exodite eldar?
zoats?
genestealer cult? (dont know if this qualifies as "non-human in nature"
has the squat-clock finally stopped counting down?

(what will be the "trademark" of a new army?) See above
(close-combat, shooty or balanced?) I'd guess balanced.
(what would the models look like?) see above

discuss


(exodite eldar?) - I'd hope not. Exodite Eldar are essentially rural Craftworld Eldar that ride lizards. Not a lot of room for adding more content. It would basically be "Eldar with mounts!"
(zoats?) - This could be cool. Don't know a lot about them.
(genestealer cult?) - Ironically I actually own a genestealer cult army, but I wouldn't want to see them become a new codex. Sort of like the Exodites, this list would essentially be a variant Tyranid/IG hybrid list. Not really deserving of a new codex.

Maybe they are coming up with something completely new. Like some sort of Crystal/Energy based life form (ref. Tholians from Star Trek). It's really the only sci-fi concept 40k hasn't touched on.

Durath
12-05-2009, 17:58
What Bols didn't say is that the rumours mainly originate from here. ;)

You may want to check the fantasy rumours forum.

Yep. BOLS does a copy/paste for their content. They just do it well.

Hence one of the few reasons I stay here.

Fred_Scuttle
12-05-2009, 18:01
Skaaaaaaaviiiiiiiiiinnnnnn iiiiiiiiinnnnnn ssssssppppppaaaaaaaaaacccceeee!!!!!!!

I'd love to see another race for either system ( although biased towards 40K )

As for what kind - style of race - the mind boggles...

Time will tell,

Fred

Hasan ibn Sabbah
12-05-2009, 18:13
Remember when people waited for scheduled release od wood elves and the suddenly jumped out with ogres (staff probably went on staff trip to cinema and watched Shrek, "wow, that big farting Ogre was cool, let's make an army about it!)? It could be something like this... Now I wonder what film they watched... (Tzeentz, make it not be High-school Musical, please xD )

Ravenheart
12-05-2009, 18:19
Remember when people waited for scheduled release od wood elves and the suddenly jumped out with ogres (staff probably went on staff trip to cinema and watched Shrek, "wow, that big farting Ogre was cool, let's make an army about it!)? It could be something like this... Now I wonder what film they watched... (Tzeentz, make it not be High-school Musical, please xD )

Ogryn Kingdoms! You heard it here first!




:angel:

JasonS
12-05-2009, 18:28
GW ha said in multiple interviews that skaven will never make space, ever. There was a couple of months ago a long term schedule leaked that had squats on it, so I see that as a strong possiabilty with what info we have atm. Everything else on the list so far has come out to date, it had orls and IG on it, with space woves listed next.

TimLeeson
12-05-2009, 18:29
Maybe they are coming up with something completely new. Like some sort of Crystal/Energy based life form (ref. Tholians from Star Trek). It's really the only sci-fi concept 40k hasn't touched on.

id be up for crystal or energy beings as long as they didnt have legs or other conventional aspects (its been done with all the other races).
I disagree that is the only sci-fi concept that hasn't been touched on - aquatic aliens, plant-based creatures, mechanised creatures (daleks?), giant squids (enslavers), a lovecraftian race..there are loads of sci-fi niches to fil, 40k is not very diverse in the slightest.

Wraith Phoenix
12-05-2009, 18:36
"(exodite eldar?) - I'd hope not. Exodite Eldar are essentially rural Craftworld Eldar that ride lizards. Not a lot of room for adding more content. It would basically be "Eldar with mounts!""

Actually, exodites are an army I would really like to see, but won't be happening any time soon. Jes is the only one who would and could do them justice and he is busy with the dark eldar at the moment.

As to them just being "eldar with mounts"... no.

More like Eldar gunlines with monsterous creatures and cavalry

DonKarst0n
12-05-2009, 18:45
Space Firmirs with their talented commander T. Leela.

This will bring back old veterans into the game as well as all the fans of good humour.

Earthbeard
12-05-2009, 19:16
What Bols didn't say is that the rumours mainly originate from here. ;)

You may want to check the fantasy rumours forum.

Seems these days if it's not Bols - it's not worth reading!

No issue with the BOLS guys, they do a lot for the community, but the frequent info jacking, without sourcing, or the tiniest sourcing is a little irritating.

I'd like to see some none humanoid race, slug people, insects, without dinosaurs aspect of 'nids.
Jellyfish aliens, squid horses...something crazy, sadly my thoughts probably wouldn't make for mass appeal.

rabblerouser
12-05-2009, 19:17
Are chaos dwarfs "non-human" in nature?

Bregalad
12-05-2009, 20:28
Was one speculation in Fantasy. FW now says that they want to do more Fantasy and that Chaos Dwarves are on the top of the list, so that would rule GW out on this one.

Linkdead
12-05-2009, 20:31
My guess is the new 40k race is just another color of space marine. Purple space marines sound good, make it happen GW.

Kulgur
12-05-2009, 20:41
To paraphrase a certain comic strip ("http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20050209.html):

Without any pictures or news, we are left to speculate on the release of a new race. Fortunately, we sit in a forum full of professional speculators. Get out your hip-boots boys and girls, the B.S. is gonna get deep.

unclejimbo827
12-05-2009, 20:47
Crab people.

Corporal Punishment
12-05-2009, 21:05
Obviously, with the recent swine flu scare, this army is outer space pig men. Tanks will just be giant pigs, if you are in a bind you can just use a piggy bank for a miniature (GW's favorite thing that you own). Instead of flamers they will have guns that shoot bacon grease. Eveyone likes bacon so I can see that being the appeal.

Sorros
12-05-2009, 21:09
Nicassar could be one, or however you spell it.

Or maybe an all new race. Though the lore-making for that would be a bit annoying/random...

*insert name here* has come to take advantage of the chaos vs imperium conflict, and will wreak havoc! bla bla bla.

LordofWar1986
12-05-2009, 21:10
Dude thats not funny to joke about the swine flu, you won't believe all the ****** around here that are actually scared of catching it. :mad:

What about a race of ethereal people? made of electrical/plasmic energy......:)

BobTheZombie
12-05-2009, 21:14
A new race, non-humanoid or at least not bipedal would be most welcome, but from what people have been saying, if a new race comes out before Dark Eldar, Warhammer World will be stormed by angry nerds with pitchforks. If one of the games designers happens to be called Igor, then hilarity would ensue.

Awilla the Hun
12-05-2009, 21:20
I think that, tactically speaking, it's going to be about sacrificing your own men to achieve victory, but balancing it out between actually having enough left to achieve victory. You heard it here first. (Well, actually it's in my grand plan for Codex: Rakarskia, but never mind. One of the rules I had in mind there was having lots and lots of destructive blast marker weapons, but if you hit one of your own units with them, the gunner is shot by a Commissar for incompetence. And so on, and so forth.)

ogretyrant
12-05-2009, 21:22
What about remmnants of a race from a galaxy that the nids had consumed? Me pearsonally would love an adepts mechanicus army

sigur
12-05-2009, 21:34
40k desperately needs some variety, as in some aliens that arent humanoid because all we have so far are different coloured bipeds and bugs, pretty boring really. Heres hopin for an entirely new alien race with nothing humanoid whatsoever - hell if they do that it might be what I need to get back into 40k again!

I disagree entirely, there is way enough variety in 40k at the moment. Let's see about this "big new thing", if anything like that comes up at all (I could do without in both systems).

BlastmasterJ
12-05-2009, 21:38
Crab people = Would be amazing, lol.
Nah, but seriously, i hope chaos dwarvs come back. The whole reason i wanted to start fantasy was to play CD but then when i went to buy the models the guy was like' do you play yet?' 'no' 'well these are old and dont have real rules, play orcs' :-(
I can kinda imagin the big furry bear creature guys (off the old xeno pic that had the first kroot pic) theey would fill the ogre kindoms niech for big models few in number.

kane40k
12-05-2009, 21:39
why has noone said maybe its not new its just nids? just a thought... lol

TimLeeson
12-05-2009, 21:42
I disagree entirely, there is way enough variety in 40k at the moment. Let's see about this "big new thing", if anything like that comes up at all (I could do without in both systems).

Each to their own, and I respect your opinion - but to me its just metal bipeds, green stupid bipeds, blue communist bipeds, about 8 power armoured super-human bipeds, pointy eared bipeds, world war 1 bipeds and HR Giger lizards - that is not diverse at all to me, 40k is very much restricted to a gothic space fantasy style, with little divergancies bar the nids and tau. Thats fine for the most part - they have their niche and stick to it and as a business they cant take risks that might result in profit loss - but I have every right to hope they add something new for some diversity.

Damien 1427
12-05-2009, 21:44
Space Dwarves. The difference would be, they'd be bulky power-suits controlled by mutated brain-things like War of the Worlds Martians (See The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume II). Just the suits would be built for melee against tough, bulky targets and shooting against weaker targets, they'd be weak against anti-psychic equipment and daemons, and would have dirt-cheap "grobbi" cannon fodder robot servants that fling themselves at the enemy.

Well, I think it could work.

Absolutionis
12-05-2009, 21:50
Maybe it will be a nonhuman Ordo Xenos.

rabblerouser
12-05-2009, 21:50
Or maybe in true GW fashion they are just going to rehash a fantasy army for 40k. Space lizardmen anyone? Or maybe space skaven? How about wood eldar?

Dr. Hellbeast
12-05-2009, 21:55
My money would be on it being the Demiurg.

HsojVvad
12-05-2009, 21:59
But the Deimurg are not new. A new release yes, but an old race, not a new race. I am expecting something that wasn't done before. Space Dwarves were done before.

But I can't see it happening soon, since half the codicies need to be updated first.

Dr. Hellbeast
12-05-2009, 22:03
But the Deimurg are not new. A new release yes, but an old race, not a new race. I am expecting something that wasn't done before. Space Dwarves were done before.

But I can't see it happening soon, since half the codicies need to be updated first.

They'd be a new race on the tabletop.

Col. Tartleton
12-05-2009, 22:17
The only semi defined rumor with any backing is that if another race was to be added its a revamped modern 40k version of Squats (perhaps being Demiurg.)

Yes its kind of limiting if you want to be a Debby downer, but anything is better than nothing...

Besides, Demiurg are only roughly humanoid. I wouldn't be surprised if they have gray skin and spectacle wearing yellow eyes and are covered in greasy fur. They could be sort of Skaven/Dwarves. They are short hunched hairy creatures who are almost never seen out of their armored battle armor, and they use ion cannons and laser rifles as well as reliance on Fusion tech and flamers.

Think Poor Poor Space Mole Men... Oh Lord what have I done. ATT is going to flip their ****.

T_55
12-05-2009, 22:19
Non-human in nature seems to rule out alot of races. I don't like where this is going, given its true.

Valkyrie114
12-05-2009, 22:20
SPACE CRABS
http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=5155&highlight=naga

Dr. Hellbeast
12-05-2009, 22:21
Non-human in nature seems to rule out alot of races. I don't like where this is going, given it true.

Perhaps they are making a Michael Jackson mini.

Col. Tartleton
12-05-2009, 22:24
But Slaanesh can't be a playable character!!! That's more OP then a 5k point Emperor!

dr.oetk3r
12-05-2009, 22:24
fingers crossed it's Joquaero

Sorros
12-05-2009, 22:26
They could make Demiurg, but I think they should make an all new race. Anyone know what the Nicassar look like? They could be Eldar, but more jumpy...they are apparently allied with the Tau, which would make sense to be released, considering how many armies the Imperium has, while the blue commies only have human traitors, vespid, kroot, and other tau. Plus some Demiurg, I guess.

At the rate that the Tau make everyone happy, I'm surprised there isn't a small Eldar craftworld that has joined them...

I think the Tau have the best expansions available. There is a race of FROG MEN who are allied with them.

Tau Allied forces could easily be made into separate armies--

Demiurg
Nicassar
Galg (frog men!)
Tallerian (lizard men allies of tau)


There are also a couple of other races...
Hrud would be the skaven of 40k.
Thyrrus are like space squid

The-Malefic
12-05-2009, 22:32
fingers crossed it's Joquaero

Monkeys are sadly, rather similar to humans in many respects. :(

Cool_Mint
12-05-2009, 22:36
fingers crossed it's Joquaero

NO SPACE MONKEYS ALLOWED!

How about Mutants? Not as a single race but as an army-type made up of general assorted riff-raff or mercenaries.. Squats, Ogryns, Beastmen - anyone remember Imperial Guard Beastmen? They looked cool - Ratlings, Psykers, semi-normal humans with mutant features and maybe a few exotic aliens like Zoats thrown in as specials. No orange monkeys though.

burning crome
12-05-2009, 22:36
A completely mechanical race would be cool bring back some of those cazy old style robot rules like pre-programming. But make them completely different form every thing else. Sort of floating chinaness puzzle balls with lighting attacks would be cool. Give the race some tough list chooses like sypanise form big very expensive things and cheap but dump units that go out of control if they loss their parent unit.
Either that or some sort of gas giant dweller.

Dexter099
12-05-2009, 22:38
From what Brimstone is saying, they say our 50 page thread from some guy who wanted to make a stupid post. That thread went completely off topic. If the source of their rumor is that thread, then... come on.

Metheon
12-05-2009, 22:39
Perhaps they are making a Michael Jackson mini.
That would be easy, just clone him for some great plastic kits.

Dr. Hellbeast
12-05-2009, 22:41
That would be easy, just clone him for some great plastic kits.

I'm guessing he'd be spending most of the battle plying ratlings with "Jesus Juice". :cries:

Hoarmurel
12-05-2009, 22:42
fingers crossed it's Joquaero

I really hope you are just kidding... :confused:

http://lostinthewarp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/ld2.jpg

http://www.solegends.com/obscure/91280127.jpg

Full army of those space orang-utans... no please :(

DarkMatter2
12-05-2009, 22:43
Guys, Brim and Harry pretty much confirmed that it is going to be a new FANTASY race.

There is no need for a new 40k race ATM, although, as I have said before, I would like to see an explicitly Lovecraftian race in the game. Tentacles, multiple mouths, unpronounceable names, what have you.

The "hyper violent Barghesi" sound kind of interesting as well.

SimonL
12-05-2009, 23:12
Full army of those space orang-utans... no please


It exists lol, in AT-43

http://www.rackham.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=60&Itemid=310

DarkMatter2
12-05-2009, 23:15
It exists lol, in AT-43

http://www.rackham.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=60&Itemid=310

The Karmans are a good concept - infinitely better than any Jokaero army would be.

dr.oetk3r
12-05-2009, 23:22
But Jokaero have lasers, c'mon man! Space monkeys with lasers!

Bloodknight
12-05-2009, 23:49
@Cool Mint: seriously, I want one of these. I was going to use beastmen as my penal legionnaires (big fan of abhumans here), and that vintage beastman sergeant would be the icing on the cake.

Bregalad
13-05-2009, 00:00
1.) Nicassar are part of the Tau Empire, so not a separate army.
2.) Tau have no nose, so no need for a Michael Jackson miniature (and it's not safe for children ;))
3.) Karmans are based on gorillas, not orang utans.
4.) Demiurg are a new race technically, as they are not Squats. They are associated with the Tau Empire, though. Still, interesting idea, if the new race is 40k. Would bring some old folks back, like CHaos Dwarves in Fantasy. And only old folks can afford GW in the future ;)

Thylacine
13-05-2009, 02:13
Gives us the rats, Rats in Space is what we want.

Big rats, little rats, some shooting lead, with long tails and a tan, sharp features and teeth like chisels.

If 40k is to have a new race make it Space Skaven and call them the Vril, a colony that swarm out of their cavernous warrens through tunnels emerging at night to scavenge acquire their needs from humanities lost and misplaced possessions. Growing larger and smarter

Each tribe ruled by a despotic hierarchy with power passed down the wisest and strongest tribe through the linage. A secret race following the steps of the Imperium but always hidden in the shadows, they are muffled noise in the night that you can’t quite make out, the furtive shadow in the darkness. They are responsible for your missing keys, they ones who misplaced the book on the shelf, the ones who turned off the computer but left the screen on.

Ever see that greasy smudge on the wall, that dank smell in an empty room, the rush of air as if someone opened a door? They are the Vril and they’re with you now.

Rattus, rattus:chrome:

DTWATKINS
13-05-2009, 02:36
If you want a proper non-human race, try the Q'Orl swarmworld, but there might be problems when they meet the Tau. On the plue side they'ed all get preferred enemy against the Eldar. :)

Col. Tartleton
13-05-2009, 02:54
Eldar helped them... the glands were rewards... they fought of a chaos army and saved the Q'orl.

Templar Ben
13-05-2009, 03:17
Obviously, with the recent swine flu scare, this army is outer space pig men. Tanks will just be giant pigs, if you are in a bind you can just use a piggy bank for a miniature (GW's favorite thing that you own). Instead of flamers they will have guns that shoot bacon grease. Eveyone likes bacon so I can see that being the appeal.

PIGS IN SPAAAAAAAAACE!

That would be awesome.

Ozybonza
13-05-2009, 05:03
Maybe they'll go down the path of Chaos Daemons, ie. One model set, both game systems.

It would make economic sense, although they mun un the risk of linking the two universes (seeing as Chaos was already established in both, this wasn't a problem for Daemons).

Personally I'd like them to do something they have at least touched on before (e.g. Hrud) as coming up with a whole new race we have never heard of but then linking them back into 40K/Fantasy somehow seems a bit implausable (e.g. Tau, Necrons).

spacewolf_sven
13-05-2009, 05:12
fingers crossed it's Joquaero

Heard of them (in Wolfblade) but what are they?


Obviously, with the recent swine flu scare, this army is outer space pig men. Tanks will just be giant pigs, if you are in a bind you can just use a piggy bank for a miniature (GW's favorite thing that you own). Instead of flamers they will have guns that shoot bacon grease. Eveyone likes bacon so I can see that being the appeal.

I concur.BUT
How about an army entirely of flyers-winged tyranids&vespids but better and much more of them

Scryer in the Darkness
13-05-2009, 05:38
Heard of them (in Wolfblade) but what are they?

The Jokaero are a race of ape-like aliens (usually portrayed as somewhat simialr to orang-utans) who are technology savvy but have no obvious language or culture. They are best known for creating digital weapons.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Jokaero

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Image:Limited_Release_-_Jokaero.jpg

Feuermann
13-05-2009, 06:26
Why not a naga-like race? they would be a cool army ^^

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/oa_gallery/Shinomen_naga.jpg

Khorneflakes
13-05-2009, 07:23
space lizardman like list would be cool

enslavers

crystal entities, not too sure about tanks for them?

armoured battle suit only army, heaps of guns slightly above average cc stats similar to the big battle droids in the star wars movie

werewolf beast like creatures the size of bears

predator themed list

centaur like insect race, maybe the tyranid enemies

Azzy
13-05-2009, 08:43
Bring back the Slann. :D

thinkerman
13-05-2009, 09:38
What about remmnants of a race from a galaxy that the nids had consumed? Me pearsonally would love an adepts mechanicus army

That would be rather cool!

Im personally for a plasma crystalline energy race, maybe make the minis out of coloured clear plastic like the necron gauss weponry - sorta like the Drej out of Titan A.E. perhapse?

Personally at this stage i think its probs gonna be squats for 40K and chaos dwarfs for fantasy

Im hoping for something more 'alien' for 40K and for fantasy something ancient perhaps an underwater race invading the old world, something along the lines of the old ones returning, or even exploring a different part of the warhammer world map (plenty to go into!)

Dr. Hellbeast
13-05-2009, 09:43
A remnant of an ancient defence system originally designed by some long-since-consumed race in an attempt to contain the tyranids would be interesting.

Big, chunky robots would be sweet.

Carkey
13-05-2009, 09:43
WANTS:


1)crystal entities, not too sure about tanks for them?
2)werewolf beast like creatures the size of bears
3)centaur like insect race, maybe the tyranid enemies

These three are what I'd like to see. First, a species of crystalline dragons. Yes, dragons. Monstrous creatures, wings(jet troops/fleet), high armour saves and toughness, short ranged organic weaponry. They would be the ultimate in elitist armies. HQ similar to Winged Hive Tyrant. Squads of 2 or 3 for troops, perhaps similar to Wraithlords. Maybe a organic cannon version for Heavy Support. Be an epic fluff face off against Tyranids.
Second, werewolf creatures. Inflitrate, scout, maybe 5+ or 6+ armour save, but high toughness. Largely armed with dual pistols for that edge in combat. Little ranged weaponry, but maybe light artillery.
Third, Centaur Insects. Maybe too close to being Tyranids, but still sounds cool. I'd say a largely cavalry-infantry based army. Perhaps it could be styled "the" cavalry army. Styled on rough riders?

Those were my thoughts summarised.

Reality
A substantial amount of evidence has shown that all of the races are going to get a 5th ed update. This will take them a while, so I doubt they will have any time to spare for a new race. Some of these races will most certainly take more a year to bring up to date. Add into this that next year will be a predominantly Fantasy year, 40k won't get much next year aside from maybe Dark Eldar or Tyranids. So I don't think we'll see anything new soon.

Cultist of Sooty
13-05-2009, 10:03
anyone remember Imperial Guard Beastmen?
Here's one I made a little while ago, to use for Dark Heresy.

genestealer_baldric
13-05-2009, 10:07
its says they will be a non human in nature which i think is great, hints towardsfantsay seem more realistic but allready has more races than 40k so it should be for 40k. the dream of feilding a flying spaeggti monster army has just took a step closer to reality :)

blackcherry
13-05-2009, 10:11
WANTS:
These three are what I'd like to see. First, a species of crystalline dragons. Yes, dragons. Monstrous creatures, wings(jet troops/fleet), high armour saves and toughness, short ranged organic weaponry. They would be the ultimate in elitist armies. HQ similar to Winged Hive Tyrant. Squads of 2 or 3 for troops, perhaps similar to Wraithlords. Maybe a organic cannon version for Heavy Support. Be an epic fluff face off against Tyranids.
Second, werewolf creatures. Inflitrate, scout, maybe 5+ or 6+ armour save, but high toughness. Largely armed with dual pistols for that edge in combat. Little ranged weaponry, but maybe light artillery.
Third, Centaur Insects. Maybe too close to being Tyranids, but still sounds cool. I'd say a largely cavalry-infantry based army. Perhaps it could be styled "the" cavalry army. Styled on rough riders?



Don't wish to sound rude, but those races sound suspiciously like ones from Confrontation and Hordes. I'm sure GW aren't imaginarrily (real word, honest:p) bereft enough to start nicking the ideas of other companies yet.

Myself, if any of this is true in the slightest, would like the squats to come back as demiburg. Not quite sure what they could do background wise to expand upon what we already have as it is, without making it silly like the old squat concept got eventually.

As it is, I would be happy just to have them as a unit in the Tau army like other mercenaries.

If its a WFB race then Chaos Dwarfs deserve their time in the light. They have a pretty good basic list in Ravening Hoards, but still its years old. Good as any time to give them an update.

Sorros
13-05-2009, 10:12
There was a centaur like race that got kicked out by the nids, they were slaves and then they tried to flee. Of course, the Imperium slaughtered the survivors.

We could always say a group of them got away.

x-esiv-4c
13-05-2009, 10:42
The Ultra-Violent Thraxian elite!

domread
13-05-2009, 11:02
Maybe they'll go down the path of Chaos Daemons, ie. One model set, both game systems.

It would make economic sense, although they run the risk of linking the two universes (seeing as Chaos was already established in both, this wasn't a problem for Daemons).

<snip>

In the Fantasy albion campaign 40k items were given out as 'magic items' to the winning races, including power armour and a power fist.

Also the Chaos Liber series is written from the perspective of a man from the fantasy universe, the 40k bits are taken from his dreams of the past or future, he cant tell which it is.

So they are already linked.

New race for 40k would be good i think.

How about a race of symbiotic creatures, bonding with different hosts to create different units. Think along the lines of the bio armour from Independance day for warriors etc. Small aliens with organic outer shells for filling different roles.

shin'keiro
13-05-2009, 11:27
today an article appeared on bell of lsot souls, which was about rumours of a new race for warhammer, 40k or fantasy. it said that the race will be non-human in nature.
in my experience, BOLS is pretty reliable with rumours, so I believe something is coming, but noone knows what.
if the race is for 40k what could this be?

Don't believe everything you read on the net :p

Templar Ben
13-05-2009, 11:46
Don't wish to sound rude, but those races sound suspiciously like ones from Confrontation and Hordes. I'm sure GW aren't imaginarrily (real word, honest:p) bereft enough to start nicking the ideas of other companies yet.

Right.

Just like they didn't with The Terminator, Alien, or Starship Troopers.

Col. Tartleton
13-05-2009, 12:02
Space Turtles... Space Pirate Turtles! Take that TMNT! 40k has made you as uncool as bathing!

My private wish would be for a race of machine warriors who are trying to turn themselves alive... AKA Col. Tartleton's New And Improved Necrons!™

Entire human populations are dissapearing from planets without a trace. By the time anyone finds out everything is overgrown. No one knows where they're coming from, but they know that they are EVIL.

With mind melting tech supremacy, a drive to make themselves men once more, and a body snatching matrix warehouses of humans in suspension and all sorts of grimdark. It'd be cooler then just "We should kill stuff." "Yes we should kill some stuff..." "Lets kill some stuff." "Oh lets."

Mangobreeder
13-05-2009, 12:13
species 8472 or a holograpghic race,

A squad is made up of a projector and projectees,

the squad does all the shooting and CC, the projector just ensures their existance.

once the projector is destroyed, the squad is, there must always be line of sight between the two.

projectees can not be harmed in CC, as they are made of light,

im just thinking out lould here,

Dr. Hellbeast
13-05-2009, 12:16
species 8472 or a holograpghic race,

A squad is made up of a projector and projectees,

the squad does all the shooting and CC, the projector just ensures their existance.

once the projector is destroyed, the squad is, there must always be line of sight between the two.

projectees can not be harmed in CC, as they are made of light,

im just thinking out lould here,

A squad of hard-light Ace Rimmers?

Now that's something I'd like to see. ;)

omera
13-05-2009, 12:18
I'm hoping for chaos cults (standard humans) or Adeptus Mechanicus, but I'll settle for anything new as long as its interesting.

Templar Ben
13-05-2009, 12:32
Iron men returning would be interesting.

thinkerman
13-05-2009, 12:42
Iron men returning would be interesting.

I though about the Iron men too - a factory ship let over from the age of strife drifts through space, maybe damaged near the edges of the galaxy. Drifts into low orbit and crashes on a planet and they awaken, reconstruct the ship, turn the plant into a giant living machine?

The cool thing is that 40K has many options for bringing stuff, i really hope its not squats though and this isnt just a new line of products to sell but that this new race will play a crucial part in the 40K universe and move the timeline forward - i dunno about you but it seems that chaos has been almost at the point taking over the imperium/empire for the past 10 yrs but just bottles it at the last moment every time!

BaloOrk
13-05-2009, 12:42
Oh, wishlisting, here goes :)

1. Lost and the damned.
2. Ad Mech. Crazy weapons
3. Tau... incorporating many more minor xeno races
4. Chaos cults/legions
5. Lika a "dogs of war" codex, with the potential to really mess up tournaments
6. Codex random high tech race, making a major offensive from outa space.

Col. Tartleton
13-05-2009, 12:43
^That's sort of my idea for making a "cool Necrons."

Robot Alien Zombies... Why? May as well give them ninja skills and have them loot and raid like pirates... oh wait they use disguises, fight kung fu style in melee, and attack at random and do evil stuff...

Oh gawd. GW really did it.

Iron Men should be a bit less terminator and a bit more Japanese-esque as they were pre grim dark but should still be scary as all hell. If they had golden men that were technically brains (albeit carried out well) in jars in robots I'd be super amused.

JustTony
13-05-2009, 13:13
I hope they finish updating at least the older codexes (Inquistion DH & WH, SW, Dark Eldar, maybe DA & Nids) before releasing any brand new race. There are still races with third edition codexes, update them first.

Personally if GW does release a new race, I'll pass on it until the old codexes are done.

Templar Ben
13-05-2009, 13:18
I though about the Iron men too - a factory ship let over from the age of strife drifts through space, maybe damaged near the edges of the galaxy. Drifts into low orbit and crashes on a planet and they awaken, reconstruct the ship, turn the plant into a giant living machine?

And it is the back side of..... Gorkamorka. :D

I would like to see a cyborg race whether or not it is Ad Mech.

I would like to see an insect race like the Thri Kreen. If you make those ninjas then their theme song can be "We Thri Kreen from Orient Are". The sad thing much of the stuff like being cannibals, learning by eating, etc. were already borrowed to be part of Kroot.

If "race" means army, I would like rogue trader (or heck even rouge traders at this point) so you can combine armies and have mercs like Dogs of War.

DTWATKINS
13-05-2009, 14:52
Eldar helped them... the glands were rewards... they fought of a chaos army and saved the Q'orl.

Yes the Eldar helped them fight a chaos army but then they half inched a Queen to make the [Access Denied], and last time I checked the Q'orl seemed pretty pissed about it.

thinkerman
13-05-2009, 15:02
I suppose the hard part would be doing something nice, new and different so it doesnt have the look of any other race in 40K - another complicating bit is combining it into the existing fluff, which is why i think a new race would be better thats not existed in the standard 40K Galaxy

Jedi152
13-05-2009, 15:06
Wasn't it mentioned a while ago that BoLS get all their rumours from WarSeer?

BadSanta
13-05-2009, 15:59
I bet my money on Q`orl.

Their models will be spectacular to say at least.

I am sure - market success for Q'orl is guaranteed and not only in W40K or WFB (Do they came from deep-deep-deep caverns of underworld mentioned in Dark Elves armybook???) universes. With them GW will suck clients from other markets too (like 1:35/1:72 scale models, other game systems, etc..).

Emeraldw
13-05-2009, 16:13
Wasn't it mentioned a while ago that BoLS get all their rumours from WarSeer?

I don't know about that, but I know I usually read the rumors on warseer before I read them on BoLS.

Edit: though they were the first I have read to claim it might be a 40k army. The thread was in Fantasy so natrually I assumed it was a fantasy army.

LtColWarhawk
13-05-2009, 16:24
Squaaaaats!

AmBlam
13-05-2009, 17:02
What Bols didn't say is that the rumours mainly originate from here. ;)

You may want to check the fantasy rumours forum.

lol somebody created a feedback loop, maybe this will end with GW actually deciding to make a new race!

Lord Damocles
13-05-2009, 17:05
GrimDarkians fo'sho'.

:skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:



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EDIT:

Or possibly, 'Codex: Space Bears'.

Vyperchild
13-05-2009, 17:09
First guess would be Squats/Demiurg. I know they aren't the same race, but they fulfill the same purpose, so we'd only get one or the other.

I think Enslavers should get some rules. Not a codex, possibly not even models, but represent them somehow.

Maybe Hrud or Xenarch?

The Emperor
13-05-2009, 17:51
Demiurg as an update/reworking of the Squats/Space Dwarfs would be an absolute dream come true. I can understand not including things like Space Skaven or whatnot, but dwarves are a major pillar of fantasy fiction. You don't have to use them, sure, but having elves (Eldar) and not dwarves? Lame. Moreover since Space Dwarves could be very cool if done well. Just look at Warhammer Fantasy Dwarfs. They're pretty advanced in the Fantasy world. So how much moreso would they be in 40k? How fantastic would it be if they got a similar makeover the way elves did when they became Eldar?

If they had carapace armor it'd also fit a whole in the game, as there aren't any T 4, 4+ Sv races. Their basic statline could be something like so.

WS: 3, BS: 4, S: 3, T: 4, W: 1, I: 2, A: 1, Ld: 9, Sv: 4+

It'd also be awesome if there was also an army that had Slow and Purposeful army wide. Counter-Attack would also be pretty cool, especially if they have WS 4/BS 3 instead of the other way around, to make up for the fact that they'd rarely assault into hand-to-hand, and making them a tricky proposition for anyone thinking of assaulting them. That'd be pretty fun. An army advancing into enemy fire, unleashing heavy fire in return, while at the same time making people hesitant to charge into them.

phedge
13-05-2009, 18:02
My sources come from the business community rather than the game develop and design side of the house so ...

There will be a new race next year, but it will not be for 40K.

The new race will be for Fantasy.

This new race is something that hasn't been seen before. Ever. It's expected to have broad and significant appeal. It's the exciting splash release for 2010. It's being developed with greater secrecy than ever before, but tiny hints will start appearing late this year into the beginning of the next.

The immediate future for 40K (and by immediate I mean the next 18 months) will see further development of the already existing 40K environment - updated codexes, new models, and further expansion (i.e. Planetstrike, Space Hulk, etc.)


"Whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Arthur Conan Doyle

Kulgur
13-05-2009, 18:09
Squaaaaats!

*sigh* Well it won't be now, you just reset the timer...

Jedi152
13-05-2009, 18:18
My sources come from the business community rather than the game develop and design side of the house so ...

There will be a new race next year, but it will not be for 40K.

The new race will be for Fantasy.

This new race is something that hasn't been seen before. Ever. It's expected to have broad and significant appeal. It's the exciting splash release for 2010. It's being developed with greater secrecy than ever before, but tiny hints will start appearing late this year into the beginning of the next.
Thanks for the sneaky tip. I seem to recall someone rumoured that they would be 'old friends'.

I'm all excited now...

wilycoyote
13-05-2009, 18:36
Read through this and the fantasy threads and am convinced it will be a WHFB project rather than 40k. Why????

The IG Codex is out, Space Hulk seems assured for a makeover in the Autumn, the Space Pups need letting loose and Dark Eldar (especially) need some tlc, then there are the rest SOBs, DH etc.. That's a lot for the 40k team to deliver without weaving something new into the fluff. Note also there are references to gaps in the WHFB range rather than 40k.

The key seems to be something that will attract those gamers outside the GW hobby, so it is likely it will not be an existing race as such. My bet, a fantasy themed "samurai"/Cathay army.

Lovely multi part plastic 28mm samurai warriors (foot and mounted) and a panaoply of eastern mythological beasts and demons. Add ninjas, geishes amd a dash of chinese cinema and potentially its something to catch the non GW gamers eye (Brettonians certainly got a look in with my historical gamer chums, back in the day).

So sorry, nothing for 40k, but a boost to FB.

Panzerkanzler
13-05-2009, 19:31
I think the new WHFB race will be murlocs. With tiny built in speakers to annoy people to death. I'd hit it. Twice.

Sorros
13-05-2009, 20:27
Noooo WoW references...such a terrible game, and blizztard totally ripped 40k off with starcraft.

Panzerkanzler
13-05-2009, 20:44
Noooo WoW references...such a terrible game, and blizztard totally ripped 40k off with starcraft.

Still, murlocs would be a brilliant addition to the WHFB model range. They could have a special rule called "Messenger of the deep" where a player must make a murloc gurglescream at the beginning of his turn in order to get a free waaaagh move (obviously renamed a meeeeeeurgh move). GW should hire me. :mad:
About the ripp off 40k bit...there are no original ideas any more, haven't been for many decades by now. Everyone rips everyone off, and that's fine.


And to keep this OT...I really dislike eastern influences in fantasy. In sci-fi I'm somewhat more tolerant of it (obviously since I play Tau). But the rumours have gotten me pretty excited, especially the non-human(oid?) part of it.

ryzouken
13-05-2009, 20:47
*sigh*

The artwork of H.R. Geiger, the fiction of Heinlein, and ancient mythology coined by Tolkien derived current (and historically recent) Science Fiction, 40k inclusive.

*waits for the next iteration of "ZOMG Blizz ripped off GW" or vice versa*

Iverald
13-05-2009, 20:53
It's the exciting splash release for 2010. It's being developed with greater secrecy than ever before, but tiny hints will start appearing late this year into the beginning of the next.


What do you mean by "splash release"?

Because as far as I am concerned it is a kind of release, which allows shops to order the items for a short period of time and then it is moved to "direct only".

SimonL
13-05-2009, 21:04
I hate to burst anyones bubble, but any new race will not be anything non-humanoid, nor an army of large single models, or black spheres, or crystals, etc. It will follow the exact same pattern as all the other armies, with regular troops, heavy support, fancy leader models, etc.

Not that I don't think something original wouldn't be cool, but 40k isn't science fiction, it's science fantasy. Tyranids are as non-humanoid as it's going to get, anything else isn't nearly as identifiable.

BobTheZombie
13-05-2009, 21:31
Tyranids are as non-humanoid as it's going to get, anything else isn't nearly as identifiable.

No blu-tac race for the forseeable future then. Shame- all you'd need is a couple of packs of blu tac, bases and you're good to go. Do your own modelling as you play.

"Hey, that doesn't have a power fist!"
"Wait a sec....it does now."

Torturous attempts at humour aside, we can sideline all serious guesses as to what the most likely new race could be, it seems. I'd like to see people put concepts for completely new armies together independent of GW, see what people come up with. It's be interesting to see something completely new infused with the atmosphere the 40k universe has, if it can be done.

Grimbad
13-05-2009, 21:58
This new race is something that hasn't been seen before. Ever.

I think it's sort of funny how this detail is always included but people consistently respond with


Chaos dwarf fimir fishmen from Cathay! (or in the 40k forum, Zoat imperial beastmen with jokaero squat allies!)

I mean, they could be right, and it could be something predictable like that. But everyone claiming to know something claims it's something entirely new that few will expect. I'm sure these people wouldn't be saying to expect the unexpected if it is really something everyone expects. But it could be something that will be unexpected to those expecting the unexpected.

As far as I know, BoLS is the only source to say it might be for 40k, and the only one to say work has barely started. The rumors in the fantasy forum were generally pretty consistent, in that GW has most of the minis sculpted already and it's for fantasy. I'd rather get news from Warseer and cool campaign documents from BoLS.

SimonL
13-05-2009, 21:58
They don't need to create new races, just bring back some old ones.

Space Minotaurs with laser-horns....you know you want it :D

Hell, make an army comprised entirely of forgotten races!

-Slann and Jokaero as HQ

-Ambulls and squats as Elites

-Pisceans and Imperial Beastmen as Troops

-Death Ferret and Gyrinx as Fast Attack?

-Zoats, Space minotaurs, dominators as Heavy Support

:D

Cool_Mint
13-05-2009, 22:19
They don't need to create new races, just bring back some old ones.

Space Minotaurs with laser-horns....you know you want it :D

Hell, make an army comprised entirely of forgotten races!

-Slann and Jokaero as HQ

-Ambulls and squats as Elites

-Pisceans and Imperial Beastmen as Troops

-Death Ferret and Gyrinx as Fast Attack?

-Zoats, Space minotaurs, dominators as Heavy Support

:D

Space Minotaur - I've got one of those. :cool:

Dr. Hellbeast
13-05-2009, 22:42
Do GW really have the creative resources required to whip out an entirely new faction whilst still servicing the overdue requirements of several existing races?

Is it possible that a design team is burning the midnight oil in some darkened laboratory, entirely seperate from the day-to-day development, ready to blindside us all with something spectacular?

The more I ponder, the more trouble I'm having putting weight in this.

SirSnipes
13-05-2009, 22:43
i wanna see a race thats fast CC based tough infantry all like centaurs, but classic style not *********** zoats

Col. Tartleton
13-05-2009, 22:47
Zoats? Oh God, Animorphs!

http://scholastic.com/animorphs/download/elfangor.jpg

ARRRRRHHHH ANDALITES OH NOES

Incoming
13-05-2009, 23:23
I think it's probably going to be a new army, new race, new fluff.

Feels much cooler to release something like that, like the Tau&Kroot. :D

Sorros
14-05-2009, 00:26
*sigh*

The artwork of H.R. Geiger, the fiction of Heinlein, and ancient mythology coined by Tolkien derived current (and historically recent) Science Fiction, 40k inclusive.

*waits for the next iteration of "ZOMG Blizz ripped off GW" or vice versa*

well, of course, but still, Blizz was even more so blatant, imo. I find LOTR to be some of the greatest novels (and movies now), but 40k didn't have so much that screamed for copyright infringement (aside from the term 'Eldar', that was pretty lame). Games Workshop, though they took some ideas, then modified it and added it a LOT of their own lore, and were quite successful with it. Starcraft, on the other hand, barely has a difference, except that humanity is a lot weaker, there are less races, and it is, really, lamer.

Protoss armour with the cone-shaped helms are ridiculously similar to Eldar helms, and the protoss just happen to be psychic as well, and just happened to be on the zerg of being wiped out. And they just happen to use warp-gate technology, and their dead/crippled fight on in the dragoons *cough* spirits of Eldar fight on in wraithlord/guard.



Nevertheless, to keep in line with this thread, we now know that its a WHFB army...any real rumours for a new 40k army?

Brother Siccarius
14-05-2009, 00:37
I think BOLS people can be refering to the rumour about a third 40k codex this year that have been discussed here...


I think I remember Harry saying something about that but not being entirely concrete on the number of codexies and army books, and everyone else running around saying it was 100% certainty. Might have come from that.


Do GW really have the creative resources required to whip out an entirely new faction whilst still servicing the overdue requirements of several existing races?


See: Tau, Necrons, Tomb Kings, Ogre Kingdoms, Beasts of Chaos, Demons of Chaos, Deamonhunters, Witch Hunters, Kroot mercenary list....

They've done it multiple times before I don't think people quite realize how often. It wouldn't be the least surprising to see a new race being released.


I think it's sort of funny how this detail is always included but people consistently respond with



I mean, they could be right, and it could be something predictable like that. But everyone claiming to know something claims it's something entirely new that few will expect. I'm sure these people wouldn't be saying to expect the unexpected if it is really something everyone expects. But it could be something that will be unexpected to those expecting the unexpected.

As far as I know, BoLS is the only source to say it might be for 40k, and the only one to say work has barely started. The rumors in the fantasy forum were generally pretty consistent, in that GW has most of the minis sculpted already and it's for fantasy. I'd rather get news from Warseer and cool campaign documents from BoLS.

The thing is, we've got months and sometimes years to guess at these things, the posters can say "You'll never guess", but I think they underestimate the number of posters and how often they can post a guess. Someone's going to guess it sometime.

God666
14-05-2009, 06:07
I vote Master Chief and the Spartans from the Halo Stars.:D Complete with Sergeant Johnson and Cortana. It would be awesome. ;)

thinkerman
14-05-2009, 06:34
Plenty of ideas have been thrown on this thread thus far........... I think its important to say that this new race will ultimately be:

Really good, have a new look and theme, be interesting, bring new gamers into the hobby and be a race that we all want to collect and buy

or

Really pants, something we have seen before (please DONT let it be squats) will crash and burn and a complete waste of time.

The addition of this new race is a great opportunity to push forward and continue the 40k universe (which has become static), it shouldn’t be wasted, it needs to be cool, exciting with a new ALIEN (I cant stress that bit enough!) and possibly a great threat to the imperium and everyone else out there - possibly give the nids and necrons a run for there money!

Da_Killa
14-05-2009, 12:10
adeptus mech

God666
15-05-2009, 00:18
The squats are dead. Thank God. :D In one of the recent White
Dwarfs (one of the last 4), Jervis said the squats were devoured by the Tyranids. He said they should have done it sooner, so no more squats in 40k. They are now Tyranid chow :evilgrin:

JustTony
15-05-2009, 06:48
The squats are dead. Thank God. :D In one of the recent White
Dwarfs (one of the last 4), Jervis said the squats were devoured by the Tyranids. He said they should have done it sooner, so no more squats in 40k. They are now Tyranid chow :evilgrin:

I wonder if they tasted like chicken? :D And wouldn't it be Tyranid "poop" by now? :eek: Since apparently the nids deciding there wasn't anything worth incorporating into the swarm? Sigh, the Squats, reduced to Nid ejecta, floating frozen in space. Gives new meaning to " ah Crap!" doesn't it? :evilgrin:

Kulgur
15-05-2009, 08:47
Squats getting eaten by nids is the long long LONG standing explanation for their disappearance. Demiurg are far more likely

Cool_Mint
15-05-2009, 09:46
The squats are dead. Thank God. :D In one of the recent White
Dwarfs (one of the last 4), Jervis said the squats were devoured by the Tyranids. He said they should have done it sooner, so no more squats in 40k. They are now Tyranid chow :evilgrin:

And according to official fluff there is only a single remaining museum-piece jetbike in the entire Imperium... but just because the Adeptus Terra says it is so doesn't mean it's true.

Maybe the Squats declared Independance and won so the Adeptus Terra conceded but officially claim that they are extinct and maybe jetbikes and robots and anti-grav vehicles are still in use as special weapons despite their official status as being outlawed or lost.

Panzerkanzler
15-05-2009, 10:58
... but just because the Adeptus Terra says it is so doesn't mean it's true...

What?! You dirty heretic, the grand torturer is picking you up just in time for the daily eight O'clock re-programming session!

Lord Malorne
15-05-2009, 11:12
Heh heh, t'would be funny if it was a new LotR race.

barrangas
17-05-2009, 06:53
As far as whether or not GW has the ability to produce a new army, I remember reading in a WD article around the time the Tau came out that they were essentially the top choice of 3 (#2 being kroot) races selected from a number of concepts. Chances are that GW has a number of potential armies that need to be refined, have sculpts made, etc. Who nows, this could have all started because some one felt like flipping through the ideas again and its been blown out of proportion that GW is starting a new army, when they've technically started work on several which will never see the light of day.

Pink Horror
17-05-2009, 13:30
I'm pretty sure, for the next 40k race, GW will make a deal with Lucas and bring in Codex: Ewoks. Because we don't have any army that fights with slingshots and rocks.

Lord Malorne
17-05-2009, 13:46
Grots have slingshots...

Dr. Hellbeast
17-05-2009, 15:20
I'm pretty sure, for the next 40k race, GW will make a deal with Lucas and bring in Codex: Ewoks. Because we don't have any army that fights with slingshots and rocks.

You're having a laugh, aren't you? ;)

People already complain about the lack of balance between races as it is. I think a bunch of elite, deep-striking Care Bears that can pwn career soldiers by firing nothing more than HB pencils at them is really going to be far too overpowered for 40K. They'd have to bring the Primarchs back into it to offset the balance. I wonder what Wicket's stats would be like.

BobTheZombie
17-05-2009, 20:29
I'm pretty sure, for the next 40k race, GW will make a deal with Lucas and bring in Codex: Ewoks. Because we don't have any army that fights with slingshots and rocks.

This would make me extremely happy. I'd take as many flamers, skorchas, heavy flamers and/or Breaths of Chaos as possible and burn the little gremlins alive. That'll learn 'em. Now all we need is an army consisting entirely of Jar Jar Binks and a lot of people will be able to work out their suppressed rage.

Shield of Freedom
17-05-2009, 23:55
Has anyone said "Fishmen" yet?

Ravenheart
18-05-2009, 00:01
My sources come from the business community rather than the game develop and design side of the house so ...

There will be a new race next year, but it will not be for 40K.

The new race will be for Fantasy.

This new race is something that hasn't been seen before. Ever. It's expected to have broad and significant appeal. It's the exciting splash release for 2010. It's being developed with greater secrecy than ever before, but tiny hints will start appearing late this year into the beginning of the next.

It's the tigermen of Ind. A completely new and fresh race that will meet significant appeal in the furry-community. :chrome:

Seriously, they should update all the existing books rather than work on a new race. Especially in fantasy where the power gradient is much steeper than in 40k.

Corpse
18-05-2009, 01:07
Seriously, they should update all the existing books rather than work on a new race. Especially in fantasy where the power gradient is much steeper than in 40k.

Thats what everyone cried about when Tau came out. And Lord of the Rings... And Ogre Kingdoms... And Vampire Counts...

If it makes money, GW does it, its a clockwork system.

Honestly, if they took the time to fully update all the codexes, they wouldnt have an excuse to prolong release dates and milk sales, or have "must have army of the month!" white dwarf brags.

A company is just a company. Let them eat their twinkies and watch them grin with cereal stuck between their teeth as they smile walking out of the office at closing time.

I would love it if they actually FINISHED the Tau race, and finished Dark Eldar, and finished Necrons.... So many things undone, and left loose. They honestly keep things so weak that they wait for the right time to work on something to make a profit.

Buggers...

sgtspiff
18-05-2009, 12:28
Maybe a race of morphers that takes the shape of ordinary everyday things. And then when picked up they suck your brain out.
"Hey what´s that Bolter doing there...*fried* ".
"Ooohh lovely biomass mushroom...*fried*".
"Why is my spirit stone lying there...*fried*".

Or Farm animal army (to get to the youngest of us).
Cow with heavyweapon. Chicken assualts. Pig troopers. Farm Cat infiltrators. And of course the great and legendary Farmers Wife.

No serioiusly. I´ve never seen GW thinking outside the box and wont do it this time either. Doesn´t matter if it´s WHFB or 40k.

thinkerman
18-05-2009, 12:32
Ive heard talk from a few people that the new race is possibly aimed at the chinese market - the only market GW has yet to crack.

Its been hinted its a monkey species

Panzerkanzler
18-05-2009, 13:18
Ive heard talk from a few people that the new race is possibly aimed at the chinese market - the only market GW has yet to crack.

Its been hinted its a monkey species

You can't fool me, I've seen Kung Fu Panda...obviously the new army will be chinese combat pandas, assault ducks, crazed piggies and retarded rhinos in full plate armour. And a ferret.

Bregalad
18-05-2009, 15:28
Longest thread on a Warhammer Fantasy topic in 40k General ever ;)

Chem-Dog
18-05-2009, 17:29
(exodite eldar?) - I'd hope not. Exodite Eldar are essentially rural Craftworld Eldar that ride lizards. Not a lot of room for adding more content. It would basically be "Eldar with mounts!"

Wrong. Exodite settlements are the foresighted few that left the eldar empire before the fall, this would mean their culture was a distinct offshoot that is technically older than either of the existing Eldar factions, opening up the opportunity for new wargear/troop types and fluff that combines the best elements of both, how about a hybrid of Wych cults and Warrior Aspect? A Pre-fall Farseer type with phenominal powers? All those lost arcane weapons that we hear about getting an airing ect. Besides, a largely Cavalry army would be good, it's yet to be done *grumbles about Rough Riders*.


(genestealer cult?) .....this list would essentially be a variant Tyranid/IG hybrid list. Not really deserving of a new codex.

I agree and disagree in parts here, I DON'T think it'd be as simple as a Tyranid variant list (only the Genestealers themselves would figure) it WOULD be quite hard to make them sufficiently different from, say- IG, to make it a viable choice. Plastic Stealer Hybrid kits would be pretty awesome though.


Nicassar could be one, or however you spell it.

Nope, Niscassar (always makes me think Nascar) are entirely space bound, they don't "Do" gravity.



Full army of those space orang-utans... no please :(

Didn't think they wer a combatant race anyway.



crystal entities, not too sure about tanks for them?

Bigger Crystals?


There was a centaur like race that got kicked out by the nids, they were slaves and then they tried to flee. Of course, the Imperium slaughtered the survivors.

We could always say a group of them got away.

"Hive Fleet Colossus"...Basically a half assed stab at killing off Zoats, pointless considering they never made it out of RT days.



learning by eating, etc. were already borrowed to be part of Kroot.

Or has it existed in 40K since RT days with the Marine Omophagea implant?


Wasn't it mentioned a while ago that BoLS get all their rumours from WarSeer?

Yes, On warseers on practically ever thread about a BoLS news item...:p


Squaaaaats!

*sigh* re-set the clock.


I hate to burst anyones bubble, but any new race will not be anything non-humanoid, nor an army of large single models, or black spheres, or crystals, etc. It will follow the exact same pattern as all the other armies, with regular troops, heavy support, fancy leader models, etc.
But one man's HS is another man's Elite this game is built upon a core set of rules with each faction favouring one part over the others, specialising in one niche, so there's a lot of room for an army of MC's (even if there are squads of them) and plenty of scope for non humanoids.


Do GW really have the creative resources required to whip out an entirely new faction whilst still servicing the overdue requirements of several existing races?

Rick Priestly tinkered with 40K undead (Necrons) for ages before they saw the light of day and even then they weren't anywhere near complete (and got a massive overhaul when they finally did get a proper release, it's entirely possible that one of the studio veterans has been tinkering away with a project like this for a couple of years with no real official mandate, just a private little fiddle about that somebody sees one day and says WANT! then it gets a overhaul and presto...sudden new thing.

Panzerkanzler
18-05-2009, 17:55
Wrong. Exodite settlements are the foresighted few that left the eldar empire before the fall, this would mean their culture was a distinct offshoot that is technically older than either of the existing Eldar factions, opening up the opportunity for new wargear/troop types and fluff that combines the best elements of both, how about a hybrid of Wych cults and Warrior Aspect? A Pre-fall Farseer type with phenominal powers? All those lost arcane weapons that we hear about getting an airing ect. Besides, a largely Cavalry army would be good, it's yet to be done *grumbles about Rough Riders*.



While your ideas aren't bad I think we have enough space ponces with phallic helmets as it is. I don't think 40k needs more elves in space, two factions are quite enough. I know the same can be said about psychotic ****** in power armour, but the SM hold a special place in 40k, for better or worse. I would be very excited for a non-humanoid race making apearance in 40k, but failing that the AdMech could perhaps be a suitably different and fascinating choice.

The Blades of reason
18-05-2009, 19:11
i have a habit of listening to staff conversations with other people

one question i heard asked was when redoing dark eldar...

staff reply was when redoing dark eldar it will be like doing a whole new race...

CandleJack
20-05-2009, 11:56
I was discussing this with a friend and he stated that he read that rumors were they were making "The Lost and the Damned", which I understand are the chaos version of IG (mutants, possessed, etc.). I'm not sure of his sources, but it sounded quite intriguing to me. Also sounded quite plausible with the new IG codex coming out and all. :chrome:

BobTheZombie
20-05-2009, 16:01
I was discussing this with a friend and he stated that he read that rumors were they were making "The Lost and the Damned", which I understand are the chaos version of IG (mutants, possessed, etc.). I'm not sure of his sources, but it sounded quite intriguing to me. Also sounded quite plausible with the new IG codex coming out and all. :chrome:

Jervis Johnson categorically denied that at UK GD last year I'm afraid.

Brimstone
20-05-2009, 16:05
I think this thread is pretty much done as obviously shown on some of the latter posts nobody is ready earlier discussion :rolleyes:

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