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stonetroll
25-05-2009, 02:26
************* Edit: total armyshot update done 21-08-2009****************

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS29.jpg

This thread is created to follow the progression of my Bretonnian army. I will try to keep the talking to a minimum and just show you guys some pictures.

Final remark is that I am heavily inspired by Tancrede (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76234&highlight=tancrede's). I am not yet able to match his skills, but I hope that I will at least improve as I work on them.

So without further ado, I will show you guys my first test mini: a mere peasant (before this dude I had not touched a brush in 3 months, so I wanted to start with something not too compicated).

Front

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS11.jpg

Side

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS08.jpg

Rear

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS09.jpg

I am still contemplating whether I should cover the rather bad freehand (these are my first freehands) partially with a transfer (and thus have the freehand as a background).
Other than that I have started my first Knight of the Realm (basecolours)

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS01.jpg

I hope to be able to update this blog regularly, but this quality of painting is about as good as I can do, so it takes a lot of time to finish each mini.

Suggestions more then welcome!

dcpattyizbeast
25-05-2009, 02:55
You could try Photobucket. That's what I use.

You Brets are looking good. The pic is to small to make out the freehand anyways.

(p.s. Look at my Wood Elves)

stonetroll
25-05-2009, 03:07
Thanks for that, I re-uploaded the pictures and now they're decently sized imo.

Dark_and_Pointy
25-05-2009, 06:37
Wow they're great, nothing more impressive than a well painted brets army, will you be painting the knights in all different heraldry or all similar?



DP

ps the man at arms looks very impressive

odmiller
25-05-2009, 08:10
Good start so far. Looking forward to seeing these continue.

sigur
25-05-2009, 15:07
Very nice work indeed. Tancrede's bretonnian log is one of the best I've seen so far and I also took it as an inspiration for my Bretonnian Knight so it's definately not a bad idea to use his work as reference. :)

your M@A looks very good so far. The coloring of the knight looks promising too.

tancrede
25-05-2009, 18:32
Thanks for me, guys ! :D
Your man-at-arm loos promising, just as the beginning of your knight.
Consider me subscribed ! ;)

Malorian
25-05-2009, 19:58
The men at arms looks great :)

Do you have a close up for what you are green stuffing on the base?

Crube
25-05-2009, 20:04
I love a well painted Bret army, and this looks likeit will be no exception.

Your painting style is great - nice and clean. THe freehand looks fine to me. Sure it's not perfect, when you look closely. Maybe a transfer would work, maybe it would draaw the eye to the imperfections.. I dunno. Still - miles beyond what I can do

I do love the painting though - can't wait to see the rest of it take shape :D

stonetroll
25-05-2009, 21:27
Thanks for the compliments so far guys! Didn't think I'd get so many positive reactions :)


Thanks for me, guys !
Your man-at-arm loos promising, just as the beginning of your knight.
Consider me subscribed!

This just made my day. Hope you'll stay interested after seeing the Knight in this post.



The men at arms looks great :)

Do you have a close up for what you are green stuffing on the base?

I have sculpted cobblestones on all of the bases (some of them are half cobblestone, half dirt), to represent the Bretonnians defending a small village (or something like that). Mainly it is done just to have a different base than the usual sand-drybryshed-in-browns. I will make a picture of it next time I have something to show for.

Anyway, I have finished my first Knight of the Realm.

Right side

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS14.jpg

Left side

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS15.jpg

Front

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS16.jpg

Rear

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS13.jpg

Criticism more then welcome! All I know so far is that yellow is a PAIN to paint. 9 layers to get it covering. The clover on his shoulder-shield (anyone know the official name for this?) will be a returning feature throughout the army. It is used to show the army's loyalty to the king (Lord), who will be covered in clovers himself. All the peasants will have their shields covered in clovers, and the Knights will all have a single clover on their shoulder-shield.

Malorian
25-05-2009, 21:34
Your yellow turned out really well :)

Crube
25-05-2009, 21:55
Yup, yellow loosk well worth the effort, and the designs on the shield look ace :D

Gargobot
25-05-2009, 23:15
Looks very promising so far, I have to agree the yellow is very well done.
Keep it up!

Leonathion
26-05-2009, 01:00
Your freehands look solid, and thats all they need. Tre experimenting, as long as you can keep your brush straight you will be alright. There's probably severla tuitorials on CMON.
Keep it up!

a dying fashon
26-05-2009, 10:05
very good i love the man at arms

keep up the good work and stay sic;)

bob_the_small
26-05-2009, 11:12
can I get a look see at some of those bases you have there? they seem to be green-stuffed? The yellow on that knight is really good, nice and clean!

Crube
26-05-2009, 13:17
Can I ask about that yellow - How did you make it so bright - I know you used 9 layers, but which colours? It looks fab

spetswalshe
26-05-2009, 15:34
Rather bad freehand? You sir are nothing but a humble fool :)

I've always preferred freehand decals, imperfections look much more realistic. Though I would honestly say I couldn't much tell the difference between yours and a transfer. Also kudos on the yellow - clearly persistance pays off.

tancrede
26-05-2009, 17:10
that yellow is a PAIN to paint. 9 layers to get it covering.
And for this, foundation is your friend ! 2 thin layers of Iyanden Darksun, 1 layer of yellow and it's done. ;)
Crisp and clean, but I think you should highlight a bit more your colors.
Nice start for this army. And the clover is a good idea.

stonetroll
26-05-2009, 21:25
Can I ask about that yellow - How did you make it so bright - I know you used 9 layers, but which colours? It looks fab


And for this, foundation is your friend ! 2 thin layers of Iyanden Darksun, 1 layer of yellow and it's done. ;)
Crisp and clean, but I think you should highlight a bit more your colors.
Nice start for this army. And the clover is a good idea.

Hmm... that seems to work for Tancrede, but it certainly doesn't for me, let me share my recipe:

2 Thin layers of Yanden Darksun
5 VERY thin layers of Golden Yellow (you want these to be REALLY thin, otherwise you get imperfections on large flat areas)
2 Highlights of 50/50 Golden Yellow + Bleached Bone (also really thin!)
1 Final Highlight of Bleached bone (Skull white gives too sharp of a contrast imo)

Also Tancrede, thanks for the input, I will try to get some more depth into the colours (although the pictures do not really do justice to the model).

Finally a WIP picture of the remaining 7 Knights of the Realm I'm currently working on:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS17.jpg

The horses are done, the metal parts on the knights are done, and all of the heraldry colours except white are done (white should go on most left knight, knight third from left, the banner and on the champion). I hope to get these finished coming week, so stay tuned :)

bob_the_small
26-05-2009, 23:45
Looking forward to seeing all those knights painted!

stonetroll
07-06-2009, 21:16
Finished my first full unit of Knights of the Realm today!

About 80 hours work total I think, but I'm pretty pleased with the results, so I gues its worth it.

Let me just get this off my chest: I HATE WATERSLIDE TRANSFERS!!!!!!!!

Command:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army03_smallv1.jpg

3 KOTR

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army04_small.jpg

2 KOTR (left one is GF's favorite)

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army05.jpg

Group shot

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army02_small.jpg

Lance formation

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army01_small.jpg

Comments and criticism more than welcome!

Special thanks to my girlfriend for taking the pictures :).

Hjalmar Cirkus
07-06-2009, 21:19
God damn! AMAZING STUFF! The colors just pops out from the figure!

Anardakil
07-06-2009, 21:50
They look really nice. I'd like some bigger pics though.

bob_the_small
07-06-2009, 22:01
Awesome work on the knights! They are so cool! I absolutely agree with Hjalmar Cirkus

mrtn
07-06-2009, 22:09
Very nice! Good work.

tancrede
07-06-2009, 23:47
Very good work, man ! Crisp and clean, just as I like !
That's exactly the reason why I say that the Bret army is the best GW ever made !

Gargobot
08-06-2009, 00:01
Astonishing painting, lovely bases and awesome heraldry! 80 hours is a lot of time, but it's showing.

Comrade Igor
08-06-2009, 00:10
Those are fabulous.

stonetroll
08-06-2009, 01:08
Astonishing painting, lovely bases and awesome heraldry! 80 hours is a lot of time, but it's showing.

Comments like this definately make it worth the massive time investment :). Just hope I can do my 96 pt Peasant Bowmen in a little less time :p (13 Bowmen, skirmish, Braziers)

Godfiend
08-06-2009, 08:20
80 hours? That is a lot of time... but wow, yeah, it shows. Your freehands blend right in with the transfers - it takes me a moment to pick out which is which. You have some amazing details on the horses, too, with some great shading. I can't wait to see more of this.

bob_the_small
08-06-2009, 16:23
80 hours! Jeez, how many days did you spread it over? That seems like a long time, but it has certainly paid off!

Well done! (if Comrade Igor liked them, they must be good, hes a bit sniffy)

Bob

Crazy Ivan
08-06-2009, 18:29
Great stuff! They seem so real, like they're actually moving. I find myself especially liking the detail on the horses (the shading on the muscles and the eyes), it's those details that makes them come alive, I think.

EmperorNorton
08-06-2009, 18:56
Absolutely fantastic.
The mix of colours in the unit works better than I would've expected.

Mott
08-06-2009, 19:13
Wish I had the skill and drive to paint brets like that, I started an army but couldnt even finish painting my first couple knight units!! Brets are easily the hardest fantasy army to paint!

stonetroll
08-06-2009, 21:01
Absolutely fantastic.
The mix of colours in the unit works better than I would've expected.

I think the key to having so many different colour work together, is make sure there is a lot of consistency OUTSIDE of those colours. The horses are just 3 different colours (black, grey, brown). All the knights have clovers. The bases are fairly detailed, which helps in tying them together. The lances are all the same colour. The armour is done in exactly the same shades of metal. And most importantly (I think) all the "reds" in the unit were done at the same time, as were the blues, greens, yellows etcetc. This makes the colours different yet consistent within the unit.

Thanks for all the positive feedback so far! Next up are some mere peasants, I just hope they wont be too disapointing compared to this extravaganza of colours :p.

colonel kane trine
08-06-2009, 21:05
They are some amazing brettonians ill definately keep an eye on this thread!

only joking...
08-06-2009, 21:25
*OUTSTANDING* Brets wow that quality work!

odmiller
08-06-2009, 22:01
Beautiful stuff. Really, really nice.

Rolo Ramone
14-06-2009, 18:25
Wow! Wonderfull work, man. I wish my bretonnians look that good.

Kaos
16-06-2009, 19:29
Superb painting on one and one but as allways with bretts my brain hurts when the whole unit is put together, so many colours hehe..

I have to say its going to be interesting to follow this thread.

Keep on painting and keep us updated.

Cheers-Kaos

stonetroll
16-06-2009, 21:51
Keep on painting and keep us updated.


As requested...

13 Peasant Bowmen finished yesterday:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army06.jpg

4 Bowmen with 2 Braziers:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army07.jpg

5 Bowmen

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army09.jpg

3 Members of the local poultry club and Freddy H, the guy responsible for the unit's red noses ;).

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army08.jpg

Something I am still struggling with: eyes

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/Army10.jpg

The "blue" on their tunics turned out more blue then it is IRL. I have actually used shadow grey as a final highlight, whereas the pictures make me think of ultramarines blue.

Next up is a Pegasus Knight (imo the best model ever produced by GW).

Comments & critique welcome as always!

Gargobot
16-06-2009, 21:57
The awesome continues, great painting! The eyes look splendid, maybe there's room for improvement but that's pretty far from struggling. And these are rank and file after all.

Now you got me all worked up about the Pegasus Knight, don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight. :p

Keep it up!

75hastings69
17-06-2009, 10:31
This is a really nice Bret army, and it takes a special kind of person to be able to commit to producing an army of this very high standard. Makes me wish I had stuck with mine but sadly I didn't have the patience for them. Yours look wonderful though well done.

bob_the_small
17-06-2009, 18:53
Really nice models as usual..... how did you get a close up of his face without it being to blurry?

Godfiend
17-06-2009, 19:34
If you're complaining about eyes cause he's cross-eyed, then you're insane. You gave the man pupils! Besides, I think it's worth a laugh. :)

Rolo Ramone
17-06-2009, 19:54
Great job again! How do you paint the brazier?

stonetroll
17-06-2009, 21:43
Thanks for the comments guys! Glad the eyes did not turn out as bad as I thought :).


Really nice models as usual..... how did you get a close up of his face without it being to blurry?

By having a girlfriend with a camera that's worth more than an average car ;) lucky me. Too bad I can't do much with it, so this time the pictures are not as good as possible (she made the ones with the knights which are way better imo).


Great job again! How do you paint the brazier?

Real easy.

Paint all the coals Golden Yellow
Paint all the coals (except the deepest recesses) Scab Red
Heavy Gryphonne Sepia wash
Paint the highest parts of the coals with Charadon Granite
Paint the metal part with Boltgune Metal
Heavy Badab Black wash over metal parts
Done.

EmperorNorton
17-06-2009, 21:51
I like to say that painting all my other armies is just training for my Bret army and I hope that once I get around to it the result will be half as good as yours.

tancrede
18-06-2009, 06:21
Nice unit !!
Keep on such a good job, and you will field on the gaming table one of the best army I've ever seen !

Crube
18-06-2009, 11:06
Excellent stuff. I always have problems with eyes too. I think you've done a great job, especially with the ones under the helmet.

Looking forward to the Pegasus Knight :)

spetswalshe
18-06-2009, 11:14
Wow. The level of care and attention you've given your bowmen is un-bretonnian, to say the least. Well done!

wiggles
21-06-2009, 07:27
This is really impressive stuff. Gonna look great. I love the peasants. For me, that's where the character in a bretonnian army is.

Indreth
22-06-2009, 18:09
cool stuff. keep it up.
cheers

Monsterzonk
23-06-2009, 11:56
Awesome work, mate! Those Knights are just great! I want more of this!!!

Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:

tortoise
23-06-2009, 12:08
What a fabulous army. Well painted brettonians are always a sight to behold. I'd like to see them on a different background though (since they're so nice) as I can see the cut out edges and it detracts from the glorious paint job.

stonetroll
23-06-2009, 21:40
Awesome work, mate! Those Knights are just great! I want more of this!!!



What a fabulous army. Well painted brettonians are always a sight to behold. I'd like to see them on a different background though (since they're so nice) as I can see the cut out edges and it detracts from the glorious paint job.

Thanks guys, I am really happy to get comments from painters like you guys!

@ tortoise: With those white edges I assume you mean the picture of the Knights in Lance formation? My GF also said that after we completed the picture and wanted to go back over it as she forgot to do a technique with Photoshop (feathering?) but I CBA. What exactly do you mean by a different background though?

grhino
29-06-2009, 16:01
Damn, and then to think you said in my blog NOT to expect such painting from you. This, Mathijs, is some really, really good stuff. As in: one of the best Brettonian armies I have ever seen. Lets see if I can match it with my new Empire- which I need to start blogging on after finishing my thesis! Need to get that helblaster and a steam tank painted before playing you though!

dwarfhold13
29-06-2009, 16:23
man.. simply incredible!
kudos on the painting can't wait to see more!

stonetroll
02-07-2009, 09:44
Had a little interuption due to a trip to Sydney (BEAUTIFUL city!) and a little flu, but managed to finish my first Pegasus Knight (also referred to as Chicken Rider :D).

Front

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS22.jpg

Left

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS21.jpg

Right-front

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS19.jpg

Right-rear

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS20.jpg

Rear

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS18.jpg

I think he turned out rather nice, but for the next Chicken Rider I will be trying something more exotic on the wing design.

Comments & criticism welcome as usual!

sigur
02-07-2009, 12:33
I'm liking that boar icon very much. Also, nice fancy glow-effect on the picture. How did you do that?

Shadow_Steed
02-07-2009, 15:13
Jealousy struck my heart as I scrolled through these pages.

Nice work!

grhino
02-07-2009, 15:20
Really nice Pegasus rider. What is your army going to look like? I take it you're using them in november at the tournament?

Gargobot
02-07-2009, 19:24
Very good looking Chicken Rider :D, kick-ass heraldry (as always). Clever use of spare sprue parts on the base.

tancrede
02-07-2009, 20:52
Really cool stuff !

Crube
03-07-2009, 20:37
Excellent stuff. The "pegasus" rider's basing is awesome. I barely saw the flying stand... nice :D

shabbadoo
04-07-2009, 13:51
I hate that there are shields relief-sculpted onto the horse's caparisoning, but I like what you have done with them. In my opinion, you've done a better job with the caparisoning shields than what was done with the actual studio army's.

stonetroll
08-07-2009, 12:46
Thanks for all the comments guys!

Last two days I have been trying very hard to keep myself sane while painting 144 clovers onto the shields of my upcoming Men at Arms. The freehands are not perfect, but that just ads to the cuteness of freehands imo. I am still considering if I should put waterside transfers over the freehands to take some attention away from my imperfections.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/IMG_1768.jpg

I hope to make good progression on the actual Peasants this weekend!

dwarfhold13
08-07-2009, 17:13
I am still considering if I should put waterside transfers over the freehands to take some attention away from my imperfections.


absolutely not :p
when you paint that much free hand, the best thing is when people can still tell it's freehand..
looking very cool though.. i love the green with the bone white scheme!
i wanna see more chicken riders :)

jason
08-07-2009, 17:23
Wow, I love the freehand - no transfers please! What size brush are you using?

Crube
08-07-2009, 18:55
Certainly wouldn't cover up the freehand myself... maybe on the champion perhaps, but not on the rest. THey'll look ace as they are.

RaZeR
08-07-2009, 19:20
Yep, agree with everyone else. Lovely freehand, and you dont want to spend that long on it to then cover it up! :p

Mr.chair
08-07-2009, 19:27
Good lord. That's all. That's all I can say.

P.S. Good lord. Incredible.

bob_the_small
08-07-2009, 21:25
They look great, to have that much patience sir, you have balls sir, balls.

tensions
09-07-2009, 06:56
very nice, really like the shields. good stuff

it's coming this way!
09-07-2009, 20:38
Wow! Those are some absolutely STUNNING knights! The array of colors going on in that unit is perfect

liggu
09-07-2009, 20:44
Jealousy struck my heart as I scrolled through these pages.

Nice work!

Same here.
Might you take this army to Conquest up here in Christchurch?

BoyMilla
09-07-2009, 20:59
Just looked thru your log and Wow! Beautiful work!
The knights are superb.
I love the freehand work on everything, it's the sort of stuff I aspire to. I too really dislike transfers.

Keep up the amazing work!

BM

stonetroll
09-07-2009, 21:45
Same here.
Might you take this army to Conquest up here in Christchurch?

I would've loved to!

Unfortunately I'm just in New Zealand for a short while (7 months) and I will be going back to the Netherlands at the start of September :S. Next to that I have only painted the models depicted in this thread (13 archers, 8 knights and a chicken rider) so I am not yet able to to field a full Bretonnian army.

Thanks for all the comments! I'm getting terribly bored with the peasants atm, but this definately keeps me going! I will be glad when I have finished the curent Men at Arms so I can do another unit of knights (Knights Errant are next).

grhino
10-07-2009, 09:28
Get on with it and stop whining ;) We all have to paint massive amounts of core infantry, and brets usually take 50 to 60 infantry max. in an army. That's easy to paint! Now get those pictures online asap. (please...)

Luckily you're returning to the Netherlands. Your GF will be pleased to see you again and I'm looking forward of taking on those brets with my chaos force!

Daniel36
10-07-2009, 09:42
First off, awesome stuff. Really well done. I especially like the highlighting on the horsies' barding. It just looks clean and good.

Now, of course I have to ask... Where are you from? If you're anywhere near Zaandam/Wormerveer, drop me a line. Perhaps you can come over and hang out at our club!

Keep up.

grhino
10-07-2009, 14:24
Like me, he's from Maastricht. Come and join us for a day of battling if you want. We can play 2on2 or all against all. Bring a friend: I've got a gaming table or we could play in the store. I also have a fridge with cold beer (if you're of sufficient age).

stonetroll
19-07-2009, 08:29
Hey guys,

Sorry for the lack of updates, I have subscribed to the tale of fantasy painters for this year, so I'm preparing for a good start with that atm! As my first month's entry I hope to finish 19 Men at Arms and my newly acquired Battle Standard Bearer.

I have the standard model but wanted to "spice up" the bsb a little bit and below there are 4 pictures. I am unsure if I should add the lance on his side or not (it's blu-tacked on atm). I am planning on fielding him with the Wyrmlance most of the time so it would help with WYSIWIG issues, but I'm unsure if it's not too busy on the model.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BSBproject1_small.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BSBproject2_small.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BSBproject3_small.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BSBproject4_small.jpg

What do you guys think, add the lance or not?
Thanks for the encouragment so far!

P.S.: Excuse me for the horrible pictures. They're only quick WIP shots and I hope you can make out the necessary details.

EmperorNorton
19-07-2009, 09:35
Hey guys,

Sorry for the lack of updates, I have subscribed to the tale of fantasy painters for this year, so I'm preparing for a good start with that atm! As my first month's entry I hope to finish 19 Men at Arms and my newly acquired Battle Standard Bearer.

I'm looking forward to seeing your entries every month.

I wouldn't put the lance on the BSB, it doesn't look right somehow.
As far as I'm aware lances just weren't transported that way.

bob_the_small
19-07-2009, 11:00
You could try and have him carrying the lance in the hand which his sword is currently in?

Wulf
19-07-2009, 11:20
If you decide to go with the lance, make sure that the flag on the lance follows the overall "wind flow" of the rest of the model. It would probably work if you simply cut the flag of and reattached it to the lance upside down.

GREAT paintjob. A brettonian army full of different colours and well executed is indeed a joy to see.

Monsterzonk
19-07-2009, 11:55
I must agree with EmperorNorton here. The lance looks somehow out of place, IMO. I definitely wouldn't put it in his sword hand either, as it would really unbalance the model.
If you want to keep it anyways, make sure to fix the flag as Wulf said...

Cheers,
Monsterzonk:skull:

Legionary
19-07-2009, 13:47
The peasant bowmen look great, the knights look even better than that - really beautiful painting. As for the freehand on the shields, it's not a big deal. I think it looks very nice, and it's probably appropriate since I doubt Bretonnia has many laser printers to get off carbon-copy heraldry.

shabbadoo
20-07-2009, 10:29
Gah! Sorry to nit-pick, but I just noticed one thing: the winged talon on the shield of the Knight of the Realm with the red and white horizontal stripes is facing the wrong direction. The heraldry on the shield and left side caparisoning of the mount always face the same direction.

Also, Battle Standard Bearers cannot have a lance anyways(or any upgraded equipment other than for a mount/barding), and they can't have a wrymlance or any other magic item other than for a magic standard. See the "**Army Battle Standard" sidebar on p. 67 of the Bretonnian army book.

flees before people start to hurl slurs and rotten vegetables
;)

stonetroll
20-07-2009, 10:37
Gah! Sorry to nit-pick, but I just noticed one thing: the winged talon on the shield of the Knight of the Realm with the red and white horizontal stripes is facing the wrong direction.

A cookie to you sir!

I noticed it myself, but by the time I saw that it was mirrored I had allready covered the decal with 6 layers of varnish to make sure it would stick, so it was impossible to get rid of it again. JUst painted it and it isn't too much of a hindrance during gameplay so I'm ok with it.

I'm amazed that no-one else noticed it yet :p



Also, Battle Standard Bearers cannot have a lance anyways(or any upgraded equipment other than for a mount/barding), and they can't have a wrymlance or any other magic item other than for a magic standard. See the "**Army Battle Standard" sidebar on p. 67 of the Bretonnian army book.


This is where you made a mistake mate :). Check p 121 of the BRB. It states specifically for magic ARMOUR that they cannot wear a certain type of MAGIC armour unless they can carry the MUNDANE version. There is no such rule for magic WEAPONS. So although I cannot give my BSB the Enchanted Shield, he can definately take a magical lance (even though he can't take a mundane one). It's quite a common setup and a nice loophole in the rules that makes him have a little punch.

Cheers

Rolo Ramone
20-07-2009, 17:30
Thatīs true, but I always play the BSB with the Sword of Might. Itīs cheaper and let me use the virtue of duty.

shabbadoo
21-07-2009, 11:37
D'oh! I missed a key part of the entry, but you are right and not right(I think). The BRB covers general rules, but the Bretonnian army book covers the specific ones, which specifically states that a Paladin BSB with a magic banner can take no other magical items of any kind, but still can take a Virtue. So, the only way to take a wrymlance is to have a mundane banner.

I usually take a magic banner, but I guess not everyone will. You may wish to model him such that he could have a magic banner or not, which means not putting any extra equipment on him. Versatility in a model is always a nice thing.

stonetroll
21-08-2009, 11:37
No update in ages and my apologies for that. I have joined the TOFP so wanted a good start for that. Got my first month's entry finished and so some pictures here:

BSB
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS42.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS41.jpg

As can be seen I did add the lance afterall. In the picture it hasn't been permamentely attached, but it is now and I made some greenstuff straps for it connecting to his belt, looking not too bad imo.

Next up some Men at Arms:
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS32.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS24.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS25.jpg

Total first month's entry:

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww212/stonetroll/BRETS43.jpg

Also putting up a total army shot in the first post. Will update that with every month's update for the TOFP.

So, what do you guys think? Comments welcome!

Gargobot
21-08-2009, 11:45
That's certainly a good start start to the ToFP, that BSB is just awesome. Your freehanding skills are uncanny.
The men at arms look great too, the attention you give these rank and file troops really shows.
Great painting! Keep it up!

fluffy05
21-08-2009, 12:44
Great free hand work! Love the Fleur de Lyse (?spelling?)

mrtn
21-08-2009, 12:49
Very nice return!

bob_the_small
21-08-2009, 17:03
That BSB is freaking awesome! The freehand and alternating colour patterns are very good! Cant wait to see more!

dwarfhold13
21-08-2009, 17:37
congrats on month 1! i'm glad you went with the lance on his side..
and i agree.. very good job on the fleur de lis.. very clean!

noeste
21-08-2009, 20:27
Looking lovely!
Keep up with the wonderful painting, I'll be watching your entries closely in the ToFP *winks*

Subscribed!

tancrede
21-08-2009, 20:34
Top work !
Happy to see such a well painted bret army, man ! The group shot is really cool !

WildBerry
21-08-2009, 20:43
Wow, those guys look really stunning, above all the Standard Bearer.. I hope I will find the patience once as well to do such a huge freehand OO

Keep up the great work there mate! :)

Magos Errant
21-08-2009, 21:04
Great job, Stonetroll! The BSB and Men-at-Arms are great looking!

EmperorNorton
21-08-2009, 21:42
Stunningly beautiful!
This army will be so great once it is completed.

Endor
22-08-2009, 20:27
Simply beautiful :)

I have been pondering what army to start collecting once I need a break from my VCs, and after reading through your thread, I am quite sure it must be the bretonnians. Consider me subscribed.

The boyz
22-08-2009, 21:18
Very nice work Stonetroll. The freehand on the BSB and the Peasents shields looks superb!

I like the cobblestone bases as well.

leeoaks
23-08-2009, 21:34
nice models......they look great!

grhino
27-08-2009, 20:54
Mathijs, top quality work here. Look forward to smashing them to bits on the battlefield!

stiltjet
28-10-2009, 20:33
Best army I have seen in a while!
Very nice painting skills.
Keep up the good work..

juicytomatoes
29-10-2009, 05:53
excellent job! I love how you painted those clubs on the shields of the men-at-arms... :)