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26-12-2005, 15:38
Seeing another post where the old "I'm quitting" legend has raised its head got me to wondering..........

Why do we older players keep on keeping on?

I think I first quit at about 25...........then 28..........then 30 (for good! :rolleyes: )........

Now at 35 I'm still playing, possibly more than ever, and it seems it is luring back an old nemasis who has been out for 3 years or so......

Maybe it's the cost......"I've spent £xxx on the hoby and I'm going to get my moneys worth"

Maybe a second childhood, although my wife might argue I never left the first!

Maybe I've grown to appreciate it more.........

Just an idle question on Boxing day while I seek refuge away from the kids and their talking bloody barbiies/tellytubbies!!

26-12-2005, 15:51
Because we enjoy it?

Gorbad Ironclaw
26-12-2005, 16:45
Yeah, because it's still good fun to push around toy soldiers with your mates? Thats certainly why I still play.

26-12-2005, 16:46
31 and still playing. This hobby is my refuge from real life when my wife and children are not around. My children get a kick from it, and my wife just pretends it doesn't exist. :)

Commissar von Toussaint
26-12-2005, 17:17
It depends on what you're quitting, I guess.

For example, when I "quit" playing WHFB five years ago, I wasn't really giving up the game, I was giving up the way I was playing the game: competitively at the local hobby shop.

I also "quit" the then-current edition: 5th, aka "Herohammer."

I think that this sort of thing happens all the time. I "quit" playing 40k about three years ago and I've been consistent on that. The 40k I play now is 2nd edition, and I enjoy it tremendously.

In my experience, people don't give stuff up in a huff or because they are outraged, they simply lose interest and that's that.

Later on, they find themselves finding the items and tossing them out or selling them off simply because they're useless clutter.

Insane Psychopath
26-12-2005, 18:42
I enjoy the hobby & it done so much for me in life with reading & maths. As if it was not for GW then I would sit about in darkness watch TV none stop & being borad as hell.

Games Workshop hobby is also a way to get awya from s*** in life as even 1 game help just making you feel better.

Also I been collecting for 9 years to stop careing for what people thing. They ether like it or not. Many girls like the paint side & my college class mates pop into GW to see what the hobby about as well as to get tip since it a model making course.

26-12-2005, 19:46
Whilst I don't actually think of myself as old (I'm only 24!) it occurs to me that I've been playing Warhammer for about 13-14 years now. I can't imagine just stopping playing. It would leave some sort of empty hole in my life (oh dear, that sounds pretty sad). Currently playing Warhammer is part of m social life outside of work, I have lots of gaming friends and stuff. There's no incentive for me to stop, but plenty of reasons for me to carry on.

Gazak Blacktoof
26-12-2005, 20:45
Well I first quit playing at sixth form and started again when I went to uni. There was no real conscious decision on my part to stop playing it just kind of happened, we'd all had enough of the gaming aspect and just drifted away from it, we then drifted back in again with no real effort:p . The real shame about quitting was the loss of all out old White Dwarfs which got binned a few months before we all started up again.

After getting back into warhammer and finding we still loved it we then decided to give 40K a try when the trial rules at the end of 3rd edition were released, unfortunately that was less of a success and we've been developing our own rules for the last few months because we still aren't happy with 40K in its 4th incarnation.

I don't expect to ever stop playing again so long as GW are making rules and models and maybe even after that as we'll have our own supplies of models and a butt load of ideas.

In short I think we just got lazy, if we ever get lazy again we might stop for a while, but I don't think we'd ever quit.

26-12-2005, 20:50
It's familiar, it's relaxing... I have effectively stopped playing when I moved to other city (no patience to find serious players among local warhammer population), so it's question why do I keep painting and converting minis and starting new armies? Games I play with old friends when I visit parents are not reason enough, as I don't have gaing time to cover my existing armies.

A way of spending time and relaxing, I think...

26-12-2005, 21:03
Wow, im 19 and I feel to old to play around here. Seems like everyone at the shops who plays here is like 12-14, so I dont even bother playing anymore I just paint to relax after work and think about all the new models I want to buy and paint after I am done with the huge wack I already have sitting on the table.

26-12-2005, 21:41
Im 33 and plan on playing till i drop dead. We all make self deprecating jokes about being geeks and all but in reality we are really lucky

This hobby is so great on so many levels.

It is sociable, you can play a game with a complete stranger
It is artistic, some people can really paint!
It is as tactically challenging as your opponent
There are endless permutations and army lists to experiment with
There is nothing like a challenging game that hangs in the balnce
There is an element of luck, there are no foregone conclusions
The background has some depth but leaves room for players input.

26-12-2005, 23:35
I'm 27 and only getting back into the hobby after stopping when i was about 16...i think the 3 main draws for me are (1) the social side...i think it's too easy to have mates who are purely from work and everything becomes "talking shop". i really appreciate having a group of mates who are separate to everything else in my life. (2) I thoroughly enjoy the escapism of it and the (as i see it) constant challenges of competitive play, improving painting and immersing yourself in the fluff. (3) I've picked up too many injuries through sport to realistically believe i'll be competing in the Olympics any time soon! :rolleyes:

Crazy Harborc
27-12-2005, 00:33
Been in the hobby of wargaming for over forty years (HI KIDDIES!!):D Been in and out of 4 editions of WHFBs and did play 3rd Ed. 40K (about 2/3? years). Most regular opponents and I prefer GW's fantasy rules. We normally skip monsters, special characters and anything "needing" a magic phase.

About/over 100 gamers I have known have quit playing any GW systems. They moved on to other rules and minies (still use some of their old GW stuff). To be fair, 30/40 of them didn't start wargaming because of GW:eek:

Playing WHFB comes and goes in cycles........it's been four months now. Time to do some WAB battling. (When we got into Ancient Battle's rules, "Warhammer" wasn't part of the title yet).

My wife's friend (from school days!!) lives next door (purely by chance). Her husband says he wants to known more about "my toy soldiers(my words)".
I hope he wants a piece of the rock too.:D That will make me the third oldest in our regular group.

27-12-2005, 04:18
I "grew out" of the hobby at 16, after discovering beer and women, then grew back into it at 27 as I realised that TV and computer games didn't fill all of my recreational needs and stopped caring that some people think it's "sad. I'm now 29 and have spent about £1500 in 2 years on GW products. (including 30+ BL novels). Which is still much less than some of my friends spend on beer!

27-12-2005, 07:45
This is a really neat thread. Sometimes I really feel like grandpa around here :)

I'm 36. I'm a professional writer & teacher, I have two beautiful kids, a darling girlfriend and a whole boatload of grownup responsibilities (*grown*).

I like playing Warhammer because it's a really safe artistic outlet. I need art in my life, but sometimes I can only manage to get my creativity out by painting a miniature instead of doing anything larger.

I also appreciate that, despite being a competitive game, the artistic aspect of it is remarkably non-competitive. There isn't a culture of trying to always be the best or putting others down when it comes to painting and modeling (well, except for the biggest losers) whereas sometimes with rock music and guitar playing (my other love), the "scene" can sometimes be too macho for me to just relax and enjoy.

I also love that this hobby is a real hobby; it's not about alcohol, drugs, sex or gambling (which are things that some "adults" often mistake for a hobby). A night out with the boys playing Warhammer never gives me that "Man, I shouldn't have been doing that" feeling afterward.

I think that, personally, I really appreciate how social the game is. I've had some hard times over the last two years and I've been alone a lot... but just having some sane company in my own age range has really made it possible for me to survive. This hobby gave me that, and that's probably the best thing of all.

I'm not that different than a lot of the 12 - 19 year olds who play the game; I like the cool outer spacey stuff and I like shooting big guns and I like to have an blockbuster-sized win when I can get one, and it makes for a great escape. As a 36 year old, however, I have some subtle needs and priorities which aren't really part of a younger man's world, and I'm grateful for the extent that Warhammer fills those needs for me.

I don't know if I'm a "lifer". Sometimes I think I could be, at other times I wonder if I'll stick with it through the year. What I do know is that I'll stay with Warhammer as long as it gives me what it's been giving me, so I don't expect to be gone any time soon.

27-12-2005, 07:52
Sometimes I really feel like grandpa around here

I'm 36.

Dear lord:rolleyes:.

Personally, I play for fun and friends. I've been in and out, but there's fun to be had even if you aren't playing.:D

27-12-2005, 07:54
Dear lord:rolleyes:.

What? What did I do? What?? :confused:

27-12-2005, 07:56
Crazy Harborc has been playing longer than either of us has been *alive* and *you* feel like a grandpa?:p

Although given my rep around here for being a crotchety old geezer, I *do* identify.:D

27-12-2005, 08:00
Well, you do make a good point!

There are these times when I'm out at the local shop and I'm playing a game and during the post-game chat as we're packing up it'll come up that my opponent's really excited because, this year, he's getting his driver's license.

That's the part that makes me feel kind of old. :)

Hashut's Li'l Helper
27-12-2005, 14:09
I play because It gives me a chance to drink beer and call my friends names,
and at age 40, quarters, and beer pong are pretty much passe.

27-12-2005, 18:49
Interesting question, and a good thread.

At 23 I don't really count as an "older gamer" yet, but I don't see myself stopping any time soon - having been doing this stuff off and on for 12 years now. I can't be too critical of the kid gamers, 'cause I used to be one... but nowadays, as ever, gaming seems to have a lot going for it. So my reasons are much the same as others'...

- I've met some nice new people through it every time I've got back into it
- Painting is very satisfying, but a pretty good way to relax at the same time
(it's totally replaced TV in my life, since I started again a few months ago)
- If I don't take it too seriously, it's just fun to play.
- A classic victory, achieved by having everything in the right place at the right time, is still really satisfying.
- Who needs growing up anyway?
- The Right Girl turned out to be someone who thinks painted minis are reasonably* cool, so no problems on that score :-)

--runs smugly off to play with the shiny new Mordheim she gave me for Christmas!-- Lucky me!

*(But is very critical of the sculpting of the horses - and I'm starting to think she might be right)

Crazy Harborc
28-12-2005, 01:59
There ARE older wargamers in my area, most are into "historical wargaming". I guess I just haven't finished growing up yet:p

I've thought about switching to ooohhhh.....chess My last game, I fell asleep from the excitement.....Weellll, that and a few drinks.:angel:

Grand Warlord
28-12-2005, 02:51
Because of we stop playing it becomes a lot fo money wasted lol

New Cult King
29-12-2005, 06:45
- Who needs growing up anyway?

You're onto something there...

I'm 25, and have played/collected/modelled/been interested in 40K for 9 years, and am only just starting my first Fantasy army after many false starts.

I have a wild and vivid imagination, and these miniatures and their 'fluff' stimulates it like nothing else. To hold a well painted miniature in your hand after many hours work, and have people with no interest in the hobby still 'ooh' and 'aah' over it is a great feeling. It's a tangible - unlike books and videogames, you actually have a physical component to the 'fantasy'. Stories may describe scenes and characters really well, and videogames have a more visual element, but an actual battle with actual minis over actual terrain just can't be beat.

Besides, ever since I was a little Kingling, I have been fascinated by miniatures of all kinds - model railroads, toy cars etc...

29-12-2005, 09:06
18 here..guess I'm feeling pretty young. Every other Wensday night I get a chance away from the old "Coal mine" and relax with some people I have been granted with the opertunity of meeting. I play a 1,500 point WE army (more points = more money..rent's expensive!!). The army is nothing special yet..but let me get back the the whole "older gamers topic." There are several gamers that are much more mature then myself, and its you guys I thank. With the help of my "older buddies" i've developed a much better understanding of the game, and made a few good friends. It really is a way to escape from all the hassels of life and just resort back to basics. Having fun. Age shouldn't matter. Of course i'm not going to be as quick pinning down a rule..or sure of my self in combat, but hopefully one day I will be, due to your help, a better player..and person. Thanks guys..those of you who "feel old"......especially.

29-12-2005, 11:54
It“s a very fulfilling hobby.

There“s a creative artistic outlet.

There“s the male craving to build and have projects fulfilled yet never ending.

There“s the social part without being connected to chasing women and boozing. The problem with those are that they aren“t truly about relaxing nor allowing you to be your true self.

There“s the instant gratification of winning and developing your gameplay.

There“s the ability to drop it at an instant and being able to pick it up any time later.

I“m 33 and find this hobby immensly rewarding.

29-12-2005, 15:25
Nice thread.

Well, I'm 28 (nearly 29)... so by wargaming standards I guess I'm not young, but I certainly don't think I'm old. I've got all the trappings of grown-upness (wife, house, mortgage, job etc), but I find that my spare time is pretty much filled doing the same stuff I've always done.... roleplaying, playing games in general, drinking (etc :angel: ) and socialising. When I rediscovered GW games a couple of years ago they just kind of slotted in naturally.

I must admit it does make me a wee bit embarrassed (even though I know it shouldn't) to be muscling past the 15 year olds in my local shop to get at the second hand high elves first, but then I'm not really into the gaming with strangers and playing in GW shops and the like. For me, wargames were just another thing for me and my friends to pass evenings with, much like playing snooker or poker or something.

The reason I've stuck with the hobby after a couple of years of playing is the depth and variety offered by GW games, coupled with the fact that I am determined to learn how to paint models beyond a standard that could generously be called "crappy". I like learning new things and new skills, and although I can't really get into the background with the same enthusiasm as if I'd encountered it fifteen years ago (I've role-played my way through enough fantasy and sci-fi cliches) I still find it fun and immersive.

I also had a brief crack at playing Space Marine, Adeptus Titanicus and, of course, Space Hulk, when I was at school and always wondered what the rest of GW was all about. I used to buy RPG stuff in GW and was always curious about the models for other systems.... so the games hold some residual mystery and charm for me.

Captain Brown
29-12-2005, 18:08
Well I have not quit the gaming hobby yet and I started at 9 with AD&D (you can find out how long that has been in my profile. Although I admit that I moved to Battletech at 13 and have been doing some form of table top wargaming ever since. Some game systems have gone under; others have been dropped by our group due to more interesting systems coming forward.

It is a hobby and I treat it as such. I have to admit my spending has fallen dramatically over the last few years, mostly due to having too many figures and completing the armies I am interested in fielding. Now most of my painting is directed at older armies stripped of earlier paint jobs.

You are only as old as you feel.

Be young, have fun, play games. :)

Captain Brown

PS: Even Mrs. Captain Brown thinks it is a good thing, and it keeps me out of trouble. ;)

29-12-2005, 18:22
well im 23 I play warhammer 40k and I still get the usual heh ur 23 and u play warhammer 40k? i had a G/F who played but sharing the same hobby isnt usually the best thing for a relationship. But I will agree with someone who posted that they found the right girl who plays well doesnt play warhammer just thinks its cool (jeez im babbling too much caffine) work + caffine lol not good anyways yea Warhammer 40k/Warhammer and age still very good!!! plus u improve painting and sportsmanship so yea learnin curves akimbo plus half my mates ive made through the hobby. so all god

Gaius Marius
29-12-2005, 19:03
Ah, Captain Brown, I remember my initial love affair with Battletech, or as it was called back then, Battle Droids...
I also got my first copy of D&D when I was 9...
I first tried a GW tabletop game in 1990 or so, at a game convention at a local University... It was interresting but it would be 8 more years before I bought my first real army...

Hell at my age you are just happy to get out of the house.

29-12-2005, 19:23
Hell at my age you are just happy to get out of the house.At mine you're just happy to remember where you live.;) I've been playing 34 years come April. Too long to quit now. It's cheaper and better for my health than smoking or drinking to excess, I suppose.

29-12-2005, 19:41
agreed I mean its crazy I can have a really lousey day at work (or in life in general) and come home see that minature ive put together and think yea thats my thing I did that its unique (usually a conversion) lol but yea Warhammer 40k has done me good always a new thing to try just a shame the right girl (who played 40k) didnt stick around hmmm had a feeling that id had it all set anyways long story and dont wanna bore u all wiv it

many of u are thinkin


29-12-2005, 20:29
Why keep playing? Conversions. Gaming is fun, winning is nice when it happens, the folks I game with are great, but I see them all the time in other venues too. For me it is the magical feel I get when I take a bunch of spare parts or a dorky model and chop it into something brand new, or when I put the last coat of paint on a terrain piece built out of old foam, trash, and bits of broken househould goods and step back to see a completely believable miniature terrain unit. It makes all the odd looks I get from coworkers for taking home styrofoam packing worth it!

Seriously, it is odd, but I can sit up literally all night converting minis and have endless energy for it. No other activity keeps itself going so effortlessly for me. I don't rightly know why it appeals so much, and perhaps I should seek help :)

29-12-2005, 20:34
Yea the hobby is cool i mean im not obsessed although my mom thinks I am lol every paycheck goes on marines for my Crimson Ravens or the allsorted Warhammer minature.Like I said somethin new to try every time

30-12-2005, 18:33
Well I have not quit the gaming hobby yet and I started at 9 with AD&D (you can find out how long that has been in my profile. Although I admit that I moved to Battletech at 13 and have been doing some form of table top wargaming ever since.

Wow very similar pasts. Battletech really got me into the miniature painting hobby and naturally Warhammer followed next. I'm 33 with a tolerant wife and two small kids who don't understand why daddy would want to leave them on game night;)

If I didn't have such a great Rogue Trader store I probably wouldn't be in the hobby now. Great owner, large mature gaming crowd, and fantastic scenery. I mostly enjoy hanging out with the guys and if a game breaks out then so be it.

30-12-2005, 20:33
Well I'm glad so many other grey beards are around!

I think all of you have said pretty much what I feel and I'm pleased you took the time to reply.

It's a strange old world and I need my escape into my thing every now and then, hell if the wife don't mind can't be bad.

Good luck in 2006 and may your dice never fail!

Papa Onagal
30-12-2005, 23:34
At 38 I am one of the oldies, I guess. :p I painted minis for years, mostly for RPG's. (I bought some plastic "beakies" back in 1987 for use as UNTIL power armor troops in Champions- $20 US for 40 marines:eek: where did those days go?!) I didn't really discover GW until I picked up Warhammer Quest to use a "break game" to play when I didn't feel like getting an RPG scenario ready. Then I went to work at a local game store and started teaching people to play GorkaMorka and 40K, and then was put in charge of ordering all of the GW that we sold. I played Marines and Orks in 40K for a long time, but have only recently gotten serious about WHFB.

I have been in and out of it, like everyone here it seems, not through lack of interest, just lack of time due to work or other hobbies or games.

I stick with it because I like the creative aspects- painting and converting minis, making terrain. I usually suck when I play (all of that letting the newbies win when I worked at the game store?), but I still have fun.

My wife likes it because she always knows where I am :angel: -usually at the paint table.

I have spent a lot on these games, but less than my friends have on golf!


31-12-2005, 01:50
Hey, McKinney Texas---Lafayette, Louisiana right'chere ... Juuuust too far away for us to start something :(

I'm the junior member (basically) of my game group that has a long and illustrious gaming career, as my avatar might indicate, and I'm 32...

Other than playing a game of Mordheim 3 years ago with the guy who taught me Space Marine, I've been unable to secure a match of 2nd Edition or whatever-edition-WHFB-was-in-back-then... ah, well... I'm still an enthusiast of gaming...

Papa Onagal
31-12-2005, 03:25
Whassup Muja! Yeah Lafayette is a long drive to get together for a game ... but maybe there will be a Games Day in Houston again someday!? I lived in the Big Easy when I was much younger (1978-1985)... interesting *ahem* place to be a teenager:evilgrin: Like your avatar...reminds me of me!

31-12-2005, 04:28
Heehee... yeah, Houston would be a good place for a Games Day :D

I wonder if GW-US knows it? :p

31-12-2005, 04:38
I quit warhammer and went back to RPGs as a hobby about three years ago. Last week I went into a store dedicated to GW for the first time since quitting. Saw the prices and went :eek: . No more for me. But they also have a warmachine night and I may give that a shot.

And before someone says "if you don't like GW what are you doing here?" I'm here to gloat over all the people who haven't managed to break their pewter-crack addiction yet. :p

31-12-2005, 12:00
26, been gaming GW stuff for hmm.. some 9-10 years now, started with fantasy, and now I have something for every system GW has ever produced (cept the back editions of fantasy(3-4 and back) and 40k(missing rogue trader.. =( )

Like everyone else says, I find it relaxing, good time with my buddies, love painting and converting and GF is ok about me sneaking away on saturdays to get to our basement locale we rent for the purpuse of gaming, or me playing RPG's once every other week or once a week depending..

31-12-2005, 22:34
Saw the prices and went :eek: . No more for me.Quoted for Redundancy

01-01-2006, 00:24
Once you've given up the search for truth and settled for a good fantasy, you'll never go back.

58 and still playing, painting and schooling the youngsters.

Mage Ith

With no plans to stop now.

01-01-2006, 12:47
Blatantly stolen from MageIth, and just replaced the age and name.
Why be creative when someone else has been it for you ;)

Once you've given up the search for truth and settled for a good fantasy, you'll never go back.

38 and still playing, painting and schooling the youngsters.


With no plans to stop now.

02-01-2006, 05:57
28 and I just started playing again. Last time I played was when 5th first came out. Here I go again....

02-01-2006, 06:08
start playing like 4 months before 40k 3rd edition started and still enjoying playing/painting talking still never had the idea to quit.....

Tanith Ghost
02-01-2006, 14:30
I'm 21 now, having begun on skaven at the age of 15. Once a rat, always a rat. I do not know the meaning of the sentence 'quit warhammer'.

I'll probably have the phase 'He failed his constutition test in the year ****
written on my grave(not really but it's damn near the height of my addiction to the chiterin hordes). :p

03-01-2006, 12:54
Ill soon be 27 and have been playing since I was 14, I enjoy watching my painting & modelling skills improve over the years, if only I could improve on my winning skills :D I also like the challenge of buying second hand miniatures cheaply and stripping then painting them up to standard.

03-01-2006, 13:50
Started with 2nd edition Bloodbowl at the age of 8, here I am 18 years later and a dyed-in-the-wool fantasy nut.
Have played just about every GW game in that time, except Man'o'war.

Am part of a group in my local GW store who are steadfastly attempting to teach younger players that ray-guns and Tolkien licenses aren't the only way to play. :D

As for why I still play, it's because I enjoy the actual game itself.

Unlike (in my experience) LOTR and 40K, there are far fewer in game 'discussions' over what can/can't happen, what the rule means, etc. etc. in WFB.

I've always found as well that beating an opponent at WFB seems somehow more.. 'valuable' than in LOTR or 40K.
When you lose a game of WFB, your first thoughts aren't generally "my dice rolls sucked", "he cheated", "broken army list" or whatever, but more along the lines of what you did wrong.
I guess I've just found that playing WFB is a far more genteel and civilised affair than it's counterparts...:wtf:

Crazy Harborc
03-01-2006, 19:45
IMHO, GW's WHFB system/rules etc, are their "full service" wargaming rules. Magic/no magic, special characters or not. Tactics are almost always there and working if used.

LoTRs and 40K are just great for many gamers, for the gamers who are looking for what those systems provide. They are wargaming systems too. They just have "extras" built in too.

05-01-2006, 13:35
At 30+ you now have the money to convert and buy bigger modles. Myself i've started a bretonnian fleet. And for 40k have just finish a tau aviation detatchment. The bigger the army, the bigger the modles, the more fun it gets. And creating house rules for all this is stimulating. Well better than real work at any rate!!

05-01-2006, 13:48
i think the reson i am back is when i play i get excited i get into it to me its like plaing the old pen and paper dungeon and dragons with your mates its somethign to enjoy and be proud of when you finally finish the conversion and paint it up and its first time on battle and all u hear is WOW look at this guys model its awesome and u just sit with a huge grin :D :D then of course some empire noob cannons it in 1 go and u spend a few hours crying :)

ever game for me is like a soap opera exciting new and you never know whats happening whats comming next whether that 1 lone archer will make the ooooo so desperatey needed shot or that last spearman rally to save the day

05-01-2006, 14:55
I can seriously say I have never thought about stopping the hobby. I've stuck with it for 15 years now (I'm also 30), and still loving it. I especially like going to tournies these days as it's another motivation to get some more painting done.

I rarely buy any new models, since I got a hold on myself and vowed to "first finish the rest". that said I do ocasionally buy some new models I really like (the Hellcannon for instance). For some strange reason, the new models are painted first and actually get finished to. That used to be a frequent problem in the past

At the moment, I have about 70% of my models painted (I keep track). at the rate I paint, I've got enough left for a couple of years. I paint pretty fast, just not that often.

I enjoy playing, but a lot of systems I really like (Epic, bloodbowl, nercomunda) don't get to see the table anymore because most of my friends play wfb. I've completly given up 40k at the moment, because I hate the way the system evolved. Might give trusty old Rogue trader another go some night maybe...

Crazy Harborc
05-01-2006, 21:06
I've had several hobbies. Model railroading (Marklin HO scale). I can and did built GREAT layouts. When a layout was done, I stood back took photos. I would run the trains......They STILL came off the ******* track:mad:

With wargaming, there's painting, reading (research, rules, etc), terrain to build (or buy premade). It's mental, IMHO, a lot deeper than chess. So many different styles of rules. So many different periods to play in.

06-01-2006, 00:31
30 now and been playing Fantasy since 17 or 18 i believe.

I've never stopped though in the last 2 years or so the frequency of my games became lower.. now if i get 2 games a month it will be a busy gaming month for me but i don't complain.

Real life occupies my time for the most part but once in a while i like to get together with a buddy, whip out some models and some cold beers and see what happens.

It is mainly the social part which attracts me most since i don't mind losing that much. It irks me for a short time if i really sink in a game but i quickly get over it and look forward to the rematch.
From time to time i participate in local tournaments and once in a year in a big one over a weekend a couple of hundred km away and it is enough to blow in some fresh wind in my gaming schedule.

I was never a top player.. had my crushing defeats and stunning victories but mostly i'm middle of the road since i never bothered to really analize my armies and powergame them to death just to win.

The only thing that has recently changed is the older we got (and my gaming group is mostly well above 25+ with some scratching the 50 mark) we branched out into other games.
I like tabletop and i guess i'll be playing for a long time.. at least as long as i got decent gaming buddies to have relaxed and laid back games (and the occasional rules dispute to get the atmosphere a little bit charged)

07-01-2006, 10:53
I will be 45 next month and I have been gaming and painting since I first saw D&D minis in the hobby shop back in '77. The folks I game with most range in age from 25 to 35, and we have a good time at it.
As one becomes familiar with the rules, the game becomes more like a chessmatch, as tactical blunders become more of a rarity.
I would play at the game store, but when I walk in and see kids running around and screaming something tells me to just go home and paint. Now don't get me wrong, Kids are great, but it would make me happy to go to an age 16 and older game night at the store.

Anyone remember how small dwarf minis used to be back when?
I wonder if the sculptors eyes are getting bad and theyr'e making the figures easier to see?

07-01-2006, 20:50
Anyone remember how small dwarf minis used to be back when?
I wonder if the sculptors eyes are getting bad and theyr'e making the figures easier to see?
:D :D hilarious!

09-01-2006, 21:26
The people who say that they don't play anymore because of the price increase confuse me. Don't they still have an army with which they played at one time? Can't these people afford $20 for an updated army book every ten years? That's all they need if they simply keep the army they once had.

A nicely painted army is like an investment -- it retains its value. It's not like a car that depreciates as soon as you drive it off the dealer's lot. It's not like the money wasted on alcohol and other stuff I won't even mention. An army could be kept like a museum piece under glass until it is required to stomp someone or to sell for profit on Ebay.

To be fair, I'll state that I'm 31-years-old, played since the waning of fifth edition, and I boldly show people my mounds of "crap" as I call it. If I excitedly "show and tell," then the reaction I receive is a positive one. If I ever sheepishly admitted my hobby, then I'd expect that people would raise an eyebrow, because I'd basically be asking them to. What we do is no less significant then a gear-head tinkering with his hot-rod. They proudly show off their insurance-sucking, gas guzzling work of art, so I'll comtinue to show proudly mine. Be proud of the artistic skills that you have, and others will be proud of them too.

Attitude is everything.

My older woman is quite the artist. She actually thinks that the whole Warhammer thing is (and I quote) "neat." I actually created a 500 point warband of dark elf chicks for her to paint, and all the models are from REAPER and two are from CRUCIBLE. These babes hail from the plain of spiders, so the Hydra is actually the Reaper Spider Centaur, which is prodded along by to spear elves, the princess is on a jumping spider that counts as a dark pegasus, so she leaps (flies) for 20", and there are two worm riders, four crossbow chicks and four corsair chicks. She only has about three infantry left to paint in this very "monster" themed warband because she is so addicted. She has only watched me play, so I'll have to teach her once she's finished painting.

Here's how "sick" I am. I got the dwarf battalion, and I'm actually using the basic trumpet bell from the warrior sprue, and using it as a hat for four lucky thunderers. The flat top of this hat will be the back of the hat. It looks somewhat Germanic to me in a fantastic sort of way, and a feather in the hat band would do nicely.

In short, I'm old(er) and I'll always be looking for something to do hobby-related 'til I die.

09-01-2006, 22:47
For me, I'd quit if it wasn't for the fact that I don't really need to buy much any more. Obviously I'd like to be able to get new armies, but with GW's spiralling prices it's just not happening, and I'd never be able to afford to start gaming at today's prices. However, I have most of the models I need, so I only really make the occasional purchase of a new edition, or a really nice new model.

09-01-2006, 23:52
The people who say that they don't play anymore because of the price increase confuse me. Don't they still have an army with which they played at one time? Can't these people afford $20 for an updated army book every ten years? That's all they need if they simply keep the army they once had.
Perhaps we're not interested in buying that new army book every few years. Perhaps we ALREADY OWN A GAME WE LIKE(D).

"Ten years?" Try FOUR editions of 40k in 18 years. At least 3 of Epic. We're on which edition of Fantasy Battle now, with a new one due soon-ish? What exactly got updated in all these "new" editions again?

I'll play anybody, anytime, in any edition of any game for which we have the rules. But I'm not going to buy a "new" game or new models... I'm perfectly capable of losing or winning on the merits of my old sk00l figures...

10-01-2006, 01:27
I'm 32 and have played since rogue trader and 3rd ed warhammer. Real life and responsibilities seriously cut into how much I can buy. What annoys me the most is when I scrape and scrounge make up the army I want and a new edition comes along and 1/3 of the army doesn't work or is outright discarded. And every new edition has a pile of quirks and problems that need to be sorted out. By the time everything is sorted they make another version with new quirks and sometimes not fixing the old ones. I just started going good with 6th ed. warhammer again after waiting for so long for more up to date army lists. I really hope 7th ed. won't be a huge leap.