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Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 12:29
Ok so i must of been very good this year cus santa brought me a titan (aswell as a menoth force)

This will be an active thread to show my progress, and almost blog like with updates. Comments, Questions and suggestions are welcome, however I do have a set paint scheme/pose/finish planned for the model, so dont expect any changes made per your suggestions unless they rock my socks off :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/outofbox.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/certinstruc.jpg

plasmadaemon
27-12-2005, 12:31
Oh. my. god. :eek:

Remember, you won my painting competition, you owe me! :p

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 12:32
As any wise modeler would know, its oftern best to start from the ground up with kits like these. So im starting with the feet.

This is what they look like out of the box, plenty of cleaning, filing, and gentle massage needed before they are ready to be glued.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/feet.jpg


So ive put one foot away, back into the zip-lock bag so i dont loose pieces, and am now ready to start work, on FOOT 1.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1.jpg

CELS
27-12-2005, 12:34
Not to start another heated debate about Forgeworld models, but could you tell me the state of the resin parts? Was there significant warping, bubbles, etc? I'm just curious, because I plan on getting one myself one day, when I'm drunk enough to dare spend that much money on a model :)

Let's hear about your intended colour scheme too.

plasmadaemon
27-12-2005, 12:36
That's a lot of pieces, I always thought the foot was very easy to make. Ah well, just get on with it! :p

D'you have ideas on what the finall pose will look like? What about a charging/running titan? it will leave you lots of stuff to do with the base. :)

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 12:44
All pieces except one (cockpit venting, very thin) are not warped. The overall quality is awsome, and ive not noticed any bad moulds or bubbles.
The paint scheme is going to be based around a spacewolf grey armour with gold trim, the main canopy (over the body) will be split 50/50 down the center line front to back Red and yellow/black chevron. (to give it the mechanicus feel)

the pose will be balanced, both feet on the ground, maybe with a twist in the hips. The problem with running or charging, is the model becomes unstable, and it only takes one "tool" to knock it face first into a rocky outcrop or similar resin eating material, and then you would have no more posts from Heero, as he will be detained at Her Majesties Pleasure.

As for the base, i do have

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/entrance.jpg

which would look nice being straddled.

The feet wont be stuck to it tho, to allow for game play.

plasmadaemon
27-12-2005, 12:50
Ahh ok, fairy snuff'. The titan will still look cool without fancy poses, heck, it looks cool when it's in pieces, too :p

Resin question: do you have to file down lumps of the resin, or just cut them down with a knife? How much force do you apply to not break the rest of the part?

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 12:59
On bits like the end of the toes, you can see a large "Block" of flash, its best to use a saw to get this off, then file down the rest of the way. I would use clippers or a saw to do the cutting work, as with a knife your putting alot of force in one direction and you may find a "fault line" through the main piece, and in that situation its pretty much underterminable as to "how much" force it would take. The knife is good for tidying up tho, because of the soft resin, you can make smoother, tidier areas with half the effort it would take with a file.

With this project im taking as much time as it needs, rather than give myself limits, there are few things as disturbing as a 25yr old man blubbering over ruined resin

TheSaint
27-12-2005, 13:40
Cool pictures!

PSD
27-12-2005, 13:50
Seeing things like this just makes it harder to resist blowing my tattoo money on the Chaos Warhound titan...

Curse you.

Ill be watching.

EmperorsChamp01
27-12-2005, 13:55
Great Dorns Hammer! that is going to rock when you get done with it. so do you have any models painted the same way as the Titan is going to be? Because it is hard for me to Imagine this.....this.....God!

Good luck and i hope to see more down the road!

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 14:37
somthing along these lines.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/testscheme.jpg

immortal99
27-12-2005, 15:34
This is going to look so cool when its finished! Hell, it looks cool unassembled. And then your basing it on another forge world peice? Are you keeping it?

pyramid_head
27-12-2005, 15:39
yea, having built two I do not envy the task you are about to take on.

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 16:01
yea ive previously built 2 also. Its a bit of a mission, but thats while ive labeled this long term :) hehe

Yeah im keeping it, the models i sell are purely to fund myself to be able to do projects like this.

icebergman
27-12-2005, 17:29
Wow!! That thing is cool, looking forward to updates.

Rich 123
27-12-2005, 18:17
When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was going to be deetailing *another* knight titan being built - funny how things can become a craze quickly.

However, it isnt - nice crimbo present. Ive always thought the titans look cool but they just seem too big (yet impressive) for me to want to build one. Not because of the skill needed to work with resin or a big kit (I can do that) but just where to put it once its done! hehe.

Anyhoo, will be interesting to see some more progress on this. At the moment its just pictures of the parts so really very little to comment on.

About your proposed colour scheme however, Im not so sure I like the idea of that. The contrast of a bright or bold colour with a neutral colour in theory works well but Im really not so sure about your current choice. The bright colour combined with a bold design (red and chevrons) on the largest flat area on the mini combined with another colour (the totally nuetral grey) just doesnt do it for me. I know you said you weren't open to suggestions on this matter but it just seems a bit too much to me.

What if you went with a deep red on the main parts of the carapace leaving your planned grey down on the main body. Contrasting a dark bold colour with a neutral colour on the underside and legs. Then chevrons could maybe get brought into smaller parts fo the minis.

This is a bit of a combination of my personal preferances and my educated opinion. Ive never been much of a fan of using chevrons as an element of a colour scheme (even on just axes or power fists. Its not like there is a need for warnign chevrons on a power fist is there? "that power fist is dangerous? Gosh, I never realised until I saw those warning chevrons, thats lucky!" it strikes me as absurd). The chevrons could just be subtley painted around access hatches and weapon/engine vents maybe.

I know a fair bit about colour theory too and your current scheme just seems... odd, to tell you the truth.
Although its you mini (if thats the right word in this case!), do you own thing - but thought Id throw out some suggestions to help you rework the current idea a bit.

Now, just get some building done! Good luck with this mammoth project.
Rich

Thousandth Son
27-12-2005, 19:09
Well, Heero-Severus you are a better man than I am, I am most of the time too intimidated by the larger models, or many of the Forgeworld stuff in general to take on their kits, so I have to recruit help from the local store to make sure that I do everything right. On a lighter note: you have already put together 2 of these things?! You sir are a monster. ;) :p

Deadleyheadley
27-12-2005, 19:47
looks sweet :) makes me want to start on my baneblade ,i will be starting once i finish 2 Sentinels which seam to be taking for ever painting :D

athamas
27-12-2005, 20:31
that looks like its going be be one heck of a prodject,

gopod luck and keep us posted.. .


and if you are going to use that as the base, i would surgest making abit more of a building for it to be part off.. so it can look war torn

tzeentchgiant
27-12-2005, 22:22
Looks like a sweet project, but doesn't startin with the feet mean you have to decide the pose now, or are all the parts mono pose in the feet?

And I'm not too keen on the colour scheme, I'm not sure why, and it's not just the pink that's turning me off, it really wouldn't fit too well IMO.

Up to you though.

TG

Heero-Severus
27-12-2005, 22:36
Cheers for the comments, and messages of goodwill.

As with the colour situation, the pictorial is just to show roughly where my colours are going, they are not the actual colours mearly a tonal to show. Ive seen this scheme used on an epic warhound and i really liked it. Remember as a whole the model will be dark gunmetal and bronze colours. So indeed the Red,and grey will be the relief to this. The red and chevrons, tie the model into a Mechanicus army (altho many legions dont use red). With the chevrons, i dont see it as a factual warning, its mearly there to promote natural reaction "hazard" "danger" all things that spark fear. Im also toying with a dark green "modern day" scheme Olive drab almost.

Working from the feet up, does determine the pose pretty much, it will be standing, no walking or running, but twists in the hips are usable to show a turning "hound" but its important for both feet to be flat, as i dont want any chance of the model being toppled.

Titans and the like are easy to build, especially compaired to the likes of Tamiya kits of similar size. Indeed id say FW is the Duplo of the model making world.

will have updates tommorow

plasmadaemon
27-12-2005, 22:48
If done right, the colour scheme will look superb on it. I suggest you try the streaking method on it.... or airbrush :evilgrin:

starlight
27-12-2005, 23:07
<subscribes>

Fantastic project.:D Many thanks for sharing your progress with us, especially since I'm looking forward to a Mars Pattern (or three) myself.:D

Rich 123
28-12-2005, 00:55
I know the chevrons in this case arent meant as an actual warning, I just prefer it when they are just used as warnings. I was trying to say I dislike them as a colour scheme themselves for that same purpose. And its not a wasp, it doesnt need yellow and black stripes to show its dangerous, its a tower sized weapons platform that moves.

Ive learnt over time that in my art, my graphics and my mini painting that a colour scheme that works on a small scale may not look so good on a larger scale, Ive had lots of stuff messed up with that, heh.

Pd, personally I wouldnt paint a project like this with anythign but an airbrush for most of it! A brush will end up causing more work for myself I rekon. I keep wanting to get my airbrush out for a decent project sometime soon, its been a while. Hehe.

However I was just stating my opinion. As I said, good luck with it
Rich

CELS
28-12-2005, 06:20
Incidentally, I kind of agree with Rich123. If you're going for this kind of archaic decoration, I'd rather go with black and yellow checkers, which seems just as common on Titans. Maybe more difficult and time-consuming, but there you go :)

Puffin Magician
28-12-2005, 12:06
Hazard stripes on Titans aren't there for warnings as if it was the floor of a factory, they're the proud displays of the Legion's colours. "Raaagh, I'm yellow and black! Die, foes of the Emperor!" A scheme of Red w/ Bumblebee stripes looks perfectly good on Legio Ignatium (http://www.ironhands.com/warhound.htm).

My only worry is that with such a light scheme of Spacepup Grey and Yellow, it'll look too clean for an ancient and holy machine. Lots of weathering on this'un, I hope!

Good luck with the project, and I hope for your sake that you finish it before I'm done with mine.

plasmadaemon
28-12-2005, 12:11
My only worry is that with such a light scheme of Spacepup Grey and Yellow, it'll look too clean for an ancient and holy machine. Lots of weathering on this'un, I hope!



Airbrush + pigment powders :cool:

You can do all sorts of styles with an airbrush, be it solid colour, rusty colour etc.. the pigment powders can be used for dirt/ash or volumetric rust (hehehe, cheesy explanation again :p )

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 13:53
There wont be any airbrushing im afraid :(

The only Area to benefit from it would be the main canopy, the rest has too many details that will be painted over anyway. The base colours will be sprayed on.

The trim will be a dark gold, based from bronze up. The only yellow will be on the chevrons.

Oh, and weathering... its gonna be so much fun :D hehe

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 16:55
UPDATE FOOT 1

Heres an update on "foot1", the first photo is with the parts being cleaned up of flash, and all glue'ing areas are now "roughed" ready for glueing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1ready.jpg


One of the common mistakes ive found with other peoples titans is when they do the feet, they let the center section touch the ground, like this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1flatnojack.jpg

The rear toe has a flat line between the 2 last rollers which is pointing to 10'o'clock in this picture, these should be flat on the ground if the foot is going to be flat. Now its fiddly and awkward to get the toes on, while the center section is raised, i found a solution while doing my first titan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1flatjack.jpg

(Nothing is glued in this picture.)

By putting 2 bases on top of each other and a small amount of blue tac inbetween (stops them from sliding), you can "jack" the center section up to the correct height and thus aid you while making the toes.

cont>>>>>

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 17:01
Some more progression pictures, all componants are glued here.
With Jack.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1jack.jpg


Without Jack.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1jackless.jpg

And a comparison with a marine for scale.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1comparison.jpg


CONT >>>

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 17:10
And now the bit every titan builder dreads.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1pistons.jpg




Ive included pictures of the 2 piston types in the feet, at there original lengths. This shows you have plenty of room to play with the postions of the feet. Its important when trimming the pistons to size that you use a sharp knife and take small amounts off, and keep trying the fit until its right, tacking large lumps off can lead to an easy disaster.

heres the 2 pictures of the un-trimmed pistons.
Large Toe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1pistonslargefirstfit.jpg

Small Toe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1pistonssmallfirstfit.jpg


I then went on to trim all the pistons (6 small 3 large) individually as the lengths vary from toe to toe slightly.


CONT>>>>>>>

EmperorsChamp01
28-12-2005, 17:13
Sweet Jesus that looks intense. But it will all pay off. Keep going Heero

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 17:15
Here are the pics of "Foot1" finished.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1top.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1tread.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot1fincomparison.jpg


Enjoy! :)

Expect another update within the next 2 days.

EmperorsChamp01
28-12-2005, 17:34
OMG.....Dude you should make a base for a piece of terrian that has that Foot print on it . That would be awsome! Maybe make it where it stepped on a bunch of grots or something.

Mr_Wigg
28-12-2005, 18:30
Looking good so far, can't wait to see it progress
Out of interest, is it necessary to pin the parts together, or does superglue hold it tight enough?

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 19:03
Most parts will just need glueing, the good thing about the parts on this kit is the glueing surfaces are large in relation to the part. I will be Using other methods like pinning later, on more structural and weak areas.

Deadleyheadley
28-12-2005, 19:07
looking good ,ive been told the feet of the FW titans have more parts then some of there full kits :) plus there a pain in the **** to build up but yours are looking good ,cant wait to see the full model

Spamus Eatus
28-12-2005, 19:09
Of COURSE the Ad-Mech would put an Aquilla and a Cog on the UNDERSIDE of the toe.:D

Anyway, super-cool! I've been contemplating getting a Mars Titan someday, And you're beginning to inspire me.

plasmadaemon
28-12-2005, 19:17
Looking awesome some far :) Don't forget to wash off the resin dust you have on there thought.

Heero-Severus
28-12-2005, 19:39
hehe. It tickles me the amount of people who comment on the amount of dust i have on my WIP models. The model will have several baths before it is finished dont worry, the important part is to remove all the grease from the surfaces.

tzeentchgiant
29-12-2005, 14:51
Heero, you are my hero :p.

This is actually quite an excellent working guide for the titan too, very interesting read aswell.

TG

plasmadaemon
29-12-2005, 15:25
Heero, just had an idea or two, what if you donate this titan to the warseer chapter? :p Or make a giant banner hanging off the titan's pelvis area with people's usernames writen on it? Just so we can all know that we were involved in this project ;)

EmperorsChamp01
29-12-2005, 16:16
Yea i dont know if he would want to DONATE a 500 dollar model.

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 16:20
UPDATE LEFT LEG

Ok ive been working on the first leg, this is one of the trikiest parts of a titan, as the three sections really decide the ultimate pose for the titan. Heres a pic showing the state of the parts "out of the box"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1start.jpg


And a picture of the pistons needed during the leg assembly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1pistons.jpg

Normally i would post 3 pictures per post but i find it easy to write, and imagine it would be easier to read as sections.


CONT>>>>>

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 16:29
After cleaning the 3 pieces of flash (note the darker resin seems harder but brittle) and making the glueing surfaces clean with some careful filing. I then began the dry fitting, unfortunatly only having 2 hands i couldnt take a picture while holding them in place (such a failed modeller i know :( ) but here is 2 shots of the interation between the knee and thigh sections,

Front,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1thighkneedryfitfront.jpg


Back,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1thighkneedryfitback.jpg

From these pictures you can see just how good the fit is, and how important it is for it to be cleaned correctly.

The Piston for this section (the single piston in the previous pic) which is seated on the back of the leg, has to be positioned before both pieces are in place, so the same processes are used as on the toes, until the part fits neatly. Then this section is ready for glueing.


CONT>>>>

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 16:37
The Knee to Shin connection required the same dry-fitting as the knee to thigh, it is important to constantly play with the positions before you glue, to make sure the final pose doesnt have any "wrong" angles (by wrong angles, i mean angles that dont look natural on a giant mechanical hound with 2 fething great guns, if thats possible).

Once you are happy with that Pose you can then glue the 2 sections together, the pistons are not required to fit before glueing. Once dry (and dont be too keen, im sure weve all been bitten by dodgy super glue) move on to trimming the pistons and fitting them. Its important with these pistons that they look straight and taught, because they are on the front of the titan.

These pics show the pistons in place and glue'd.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1shinkneepistons1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1shinkneepistons1a.jpg


This picture shows the 3 sections all glued and positioned.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/Leg1sectionsset.jpg

CONT>>>>>>>

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 16:49
Then came the tricky bit !!

It was important to test at this stage, wether any of the parts would conflict in a pose, including the armour :eek:

At this point i dry fitted the armour plates with blue tact and tested the limitations and conflicts of positions, luckily the armour is pretty good and gives pretty good all round clearance,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/Leg1armourdryfit.jpg


The next step was to test the positioning reletive from the feet to waist. Again moving the pieces around until it feels right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1posedryfit.jpg

Finally i glued the pieces into place, and Leg1 is completed, structuraly.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/Leg1fin.jpg


CONT>>>>>>

EmperorsChamp01
29-12-2005, 16:54
NICE This is Fragging Awsome!!!! i cant wait to see it completed

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 16:54
The next step is to position the ankle pistons.... somthing ive been fearing since this model was first ordered, it is arguably the "tear phase" of the model.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1anklepistons.jpg


but that can wait for tommorow ..............................



PD - I think it would be a little self indulgent to paste my name across a large banner on the waist :) i mean who else is involved? :P On the other hand i have 2 moderati, 2 Servitors, and an enginseer and servitor to name, not to mention 4 servo skulls.... now theres a predicament.... of course there can only be one Princeps :chrome:



And erm, just for the record... its mine ... all mine... deffo not for the warseers !

plasmadaemon
29-12-2005, 17:06
hehe, it's only 300 quid! :p

Looking ace as usuall, the different coloured resin parts kinda add character to the whole mini....:eyebrows:

Getz
29-12-2005, 17:33
As a matter of interest, what Glue are you using to construct the legs. In the whole I would not want to trust Cyanoacrylates on such a major load bearing structure as the legs and would use Epoxy Resins instead. What's your take on that?

Obviously, superglue is fine on non load bearing or detail parts.

tzeentchgiant
29-12-2005, 18:17
Another quick question some more experienced resin workers might have the answer to.

Can you use a glue-gun to secure resin models? Or does it damage the resin/ not stick effectively?

TG

Knighty
29-12-2005, 18:48
I'd be surprised if the heat didn't damage the resin. Resin will bend under it's own weight after being in warm water :(

tzeentchgiant
29-12-2005, 18:53
I thought it required very hot water :eyebrows:

Well, probably safest not to try it then :), thanks,

TG

Neknoh
29-12-2005, 19:36
Oh, I can imagine the horror, just when you've bought a Greater Daemon from FW...

"Ok, now, just this one bit left to the front and its set to go, now, where did I put that superglue... oh well, I'll simply use me glue gun"

¤gluing¤

"Now, that doesn't look all to..."

¤parts of the wall and loose objects beginn flying across the room as you breath very heavely¤

"NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 19:55
Getz - Im simply using normal GW super glue for this project. I did contemplate using an epoxy of some kind, but i thought maybe they would be too hard. Id like to think if i dropped the model, it would be the joints that break, not the resin. For this purpose GW superglue is perfect, its thin and brittle and should have lower stress tolerances than the resin.

Ive got a bit of a burn on so expect maybe another update tonite.

Thousandth Son
29-12-2005, 20:28
I thought this was supposed to be a long slow project?! This seems pretty fast paced to me, although who am I to complain? Once again good work. ;) :p

Melchor
29-12-2005, 20:31
Sweet Emperor's Testicles!
I knew the Warhound Titan looked good, but somehow the FW pictures fail to show it's sheer awesomeness.

Thumbs up for undertaking such a monstrous task Heero! And good luck as well. I consider myself to be a fairly experienced modeller and I'm not sure if I have the heart to build a kit like that...

Capt. Buko
29-12-2005, 20:49
Wondering if you thought about cleaning the resin before you put it all together? Looking at that thing it looks like its going to be a pain in the a$$ to clean once together?

Are you planning on painting each section alone and then assemble ?

Deadleyheadley
29-12-2005, 20:52
Im looking forward for tonight update :),I thought the Baneblade had a lot of parts but the titan looks to have loads .Keep up the good work
Out of intrest Heero what type of files are you using the GW ones are not up to the job :)

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 21:42
hehe, any of you that know how long it takes me to paint a single model will know why this is a "long slow project" :) Im trying to get the bulk of the building done before i go back to work.

As for the cleaning, i find it easier to do when you have "sections" this avoids several problems, and makes it easy to clean as one "Object" rather than 54 teeny tiny pieces in just the legs alone. Its all down to personal preferance i guess.

As for Files, ive got tonnes of them, from some for woodwork and metal work (large sizes from B&Q) down to Needle files from GW and Expo Tools. Plus i think i got a set for a Birthday or christmas at some point. But But But (and i was saving this to the end) as you ask headly, this is how i file within recesses and round "interior" areas.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/dremelfile.jpg

This is File tip used in dremels and the like, i use it with my fingers and its really effective, to get better grip you can put it in a pinvice or similar. I wouldnt advise using a dremel or rotary tool of similar design, for 2 reasons firstly the ease in which you can file to much, and secondly the dust it makes, resin dust is harmful to your lungs so its best to wear a mask, and try and keep the levels of dust to a minimum.

Deadleyheadley
29-12-2005, 21:50
Ive just tryed my dremmel and it works a treat but the dust is going everywere nd i dont have a mask so i will have to get hold of a mask :)

Chaos and Evil
29-12-2005, 22:30
Ive just tryed my dremmel and it works a treat but the dust is going everywere nd i dont have a mask so i will have to get hold of a mask :)

Cripes, breathing resin dust is not a good idea.

EmperorsChamp01
29-12-2005, 23:15
Yea not a really smart idea. But What is a little pain for something you love???

Heero-Severus
29-12-2005, 23:17
UPDATE LEFT LEG ANKLE PISTONS

Not a major update, but ive got all the ankle pistons on, and im feeling pretty chuffed about it tho as its quite a mean task :) Again the usual dry fit and then dry fit again, until you are 100% happy the parts are correct to fit.
These went on better than ever, but im guessing its the previous practice, and respect for the task.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg1anklepistonsfin.jpg

Ive also cleaned down all the parts for leg 2, ready to finish the legs tommorow, i wont update the build of the leg with pictures, it will be covering old ground down on leg 1, but when i put the legs together, and how i plan to match them up updates will follow.

I believe resin is a carcenagenic, but cant find anything on the FW website, but they wouldnt shout it to the world, the do recommend wearing masks, and warn of health risks.

Neknoh
29-12-2005, 23:23
... :eyebrows:

.. . :wtf:

. . . :eek:


He gives the word stompy a new meaning

Deadleyheadley
29-12-2005, 23:25
UPDATE LEFT LEG ANKLE PISTONS

I believe resin is a carcenagenic, but cant find anything on the FW website, but they wouldnt shout it to the world, the do recommend wearing masks, and warn of health risks.
Ive put the baneblade on hold until i get a mask :) im now building a squad of kasrkins

Chaos and Evil
30-12-2005, 00:24
I believe resin is a carcenagenic, but cant find anything on the FW website,

Resin is not a carcinogen.

If it was, they'd be legally obliged to tell you. Which they don't. Because it's not a carcinogen.

It does however give you respiratory problems if you inhale resin dust.


but they wouldnt shout it to the world,

Why?

Because they're evil and want their customers to:

A - Get Cancer!
B - Sue ForeWorld!
C - Die of Cancer????

Sorry, they're just not that evil, cool though it'd be if they were.


they do recommend wearing masks, and warn of health risks.

Yup. Wear a mask.

sheep
30-12-2005, 06:10
Very informative and helpful, as the proud owner of a chaos titan (still painting WIP) i can safely say that i would have made fewer mistakes and had less problems if this had been around 6 months ago.

Bravo, nad thankyou for taking the time to help out all the future pricepts out there.

Cheers

Sheep

Heero-Severus
30-12-2005, 09:16
Resin is not a carcinogen.

Ok my mistake, RESIN DUST SUPPOSIDLY IS A CARCINOGEN.


If it was, they'd be legally obliged to tell you. Which they don't. Because it's not a carcinogen.

no they wouldnt, because they are not selling an object to be eaten, or inhaled they can simply get by with advisory health risks, which they do have. Not all cigarette packages say smoking gives you cancer. Some simply say "Smoking seriously damages your health".

Simple things like burnt toast are carcinagenic (if you breathed in the ash), but all carcinagenics are given levels, Asbestos, Cigarettes and smoke are the worst.

Its the toxicity of resin, and the ease of which it is to breath in and build up in the lungs that make it hazardous.








Because they're evil and want their customers to:

A - Get Cancer!
B - Sue ForeWorld!
C - Die of Cancer????

Sorry, they're just not that evil, cool though it'd be if they were.



I love it when people do this on a forum, they give you a list of witty sarcastic reasons, its just too cool. (must of run out of humour by C tho, its just A with a twist) :P Simple fact FW use resin is because of its ease to create moulds for, and the detail that can be produced.

just about every man made substance in the household (mostly plastic, or plastic derived) are dangerous to health if altered, like sitting over super glue, burning cds and snorting the fumes, none of these come with health warnings! IF you burnt some toast, and then started filing the burnt sections and breathed in the dust, you would be getting the same effects as breathing in resin.



(gotta love have a mrs who is a bio-medical scientist,)

Chaos and Evil
30-12-2005, 18:45
I love it when people do this on a forum, they give you a list of witty sarcastic reasons, its just too cool. (must of run out of humour by C tho, its just A with a twist) :P Simple fact FW use resin is because of its ease to create moulds for, and the detail that can be produced.

Deriding my point as sarcasm is not an appropriate answer, sorry.

That A-C thing was phrased as a joke which you have seemingly misunderstood as hostility. Take a non-cancerous chill pill.

Also, perhaps I should break it down for you so you understand the difference.

A & B are aspects that are likely to have financial impact upon ForgeWorld, the company.

C is purely moral, very different.


(gotta love have a mrs who is a bio-medical scientist,)

Pity it seems to have made you kinda angry!

^^See that^^
*that* is hostility.

Incidentally, since inhaling resin dust does give you cancer, you have shown me to be wrong, and thus ForgeWorld don't mind killing people as long as they've legally covered their asses.

Heero-Severus
30-12-2005, 20:01
:o wooooo hoooo :) thanks for that... glad its all come to a close.

No modeling planned for tonight. Maybe updates for tommorow.

Rich 123
30-12-2005, 20:28
Would you mind leaving this out, please? This thread is interesting for most people noting the development of a titan from the ground up.

Forgeworld do state the safety measures needed when cutting/filing resin - saying that you should use a dust mask. If we just bear that in mind it is good enough.

MDF wood is even technically classed as a carcinogen - there are lots of things like that, but on the whole it tends to just need a little care when using it (so when you are cutting MDF dont take big deep breathes having cut a long thick piece of it). The same is also applicable with resin - keep in mind that the toxic dust isnt too good for your lungs and wear you dust mask while cutting it in a ventialted room and, thus, there is no cause for concern.

This isnt a personal criticism of your fine self - its just a summary to close this down. Now, lets go back to Heero showing us the interesting development of his titan.
Thank you.

It will be interestting to see the pose this ends up in Heero, looking forward to see the final result.

Rich

Heero-Severus
30-12-2005, 20:30
Well said rich, expect updates tommorow. Ive got a busy day planned :)

Chaos and Evil
30-12-2005, 20:41
Would you mind leaving this out, please?

I think we'd already finished, where I admitted I was wrong, y'know.

'twas a long flame war, in the epic traditions of yore, well fought, honourably finished and nobody compared anyone else to the Nazis, truly a battle worthy of rememberance.


Looking forwards to the updates Heero.

Rich 123
30-12-2005, 20:45
Hehe, glad to hear you will be busy!

Ive been feeling the urge to work on a large modellign project - I seem to have been doing loads of converting lately, which is fun, yet alot of work for a small final piece - a big project would make a change. If I didnt spend so much money on rubbish like drink and materials for my course I probably would have got a titan model whether or not the finished model is ratehr impractically large !
Probably just end up working on a tank diorama as a happy medium :)

Just a thought though about leg #2 (unless work has started on it of course). What if the heel was raised a bit (about 30mm maybe) as that would imply alot more dynamism rather than both feet on the ground whlile not compromising the structural integrity too much. Although if you remember any of my stuff Im really interested in experimenting with movement and posing.

We,, I would say hurry up! But I never rush anything, especially big projects and wouldnt ask anyone else to - so I wont ;)
Rich

Izram
30-12-2005, 20:49
Damn, and I figured the ABC thing to be an underpants gnome reference. Another dissapointment :(.

Looking foward to an update heero, any plans for converting it or just a straight up titan?

BaronDG
30-12-2005, 21:07
I'm really liking this thread. With a bit of luck and more quality photos, I can use this as a step by step guide for when I get a titan of my own. Very impressive.

chad1989
30-12-2005, 21:09
Hi, im a newbie if it comes to titans and wondering who would pay £300 for one model which isnt that tall how come it cost that much, its well to much for studfents who hardly have much, like me! lol dont you wonder where all that money goes to?

Rich 123
30-12-2005, 21:26
They are expensive, yes. Being a student too, that sort of outlay hurts my wallet just as much!

All of the FW models seem expensive. How I see it is that they make relatively low productions run (and arent titans and other similar sized minis cast to order?) out of a material that is somewhat more expensive than others.

Although the true appeal to someone like me (as a modeller/converter rather than a gamer of any sort) is the sheer detail and attention to that detail and the design that sets them apart from other minis. They are really rather good!

And a titan can measure in at about a foot tall anyhoo as well ;)
Rich

Norminator
30-12-2005, 21:28
FW is expensive, but everytime I get something from them I'm left breathless (ok, maybe a bit of an exaggeration) - the models are that good. I pity those who decide to do an army of Elysians all the same though...

Chaos and Evil
30-12-2005, 22:30
I pity those who decide to do an army of Elysians all the same though...

I hope that's an exaggeration... ;)

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 00:59
Why speand so much on FW, well as its been said all round this thread the level of detail is supurb.....

you want another reason?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/Princeps-Severus.jpg


hows about "Cus Princeps Severus Says SO!"

Norminator
31-12-2005, 08:02
The only answer that that picture deserves is... wow. GET ME A TITAN!


I hope that's an exaggeration... ;)

Perhaps I should have mentioned all mounted in Valkyries :eek:

Hortwerth
31-12-2005, 08:04
That's one large breastplate! Most probably it's the angle of the shot, but compared with his legs and arms (thickness) the breastplate looks just exaggerated.

Also, he's sitting in a TITAN! Inside its armour!

Couldn't they come up with some more comfortable badge-of-office armour piece to wear for hours?

Norminator
31-12-2005, 08:06
I guess it could be part of the neural link, though I would have thought that would be attached to his head.

Hideous Loon
31-12-2005, 08:08
Maybe he IS comfortable. The Princepes are all scrawny, and therefore he's more sitting inside the breastplate than wearing it.

I thinl you're truly mad to paint such a thing, Heero. I tried a Defiler and got bored after one single claw.

EmperorsChamp01
31-12-2005, 08:09
I dont know i think it looks good. But the only thing that will make it better at this point is to paint it!

Norminator
31-12-2005, 08:16
Just make sure it doesn't fall off a shelf/ table/ window/ cliff/ plane....

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 09:57
each different titan, wolf/jackal. and mars, has a different princeps. Not to mention you also get a spare "empty chair" should you feel the urge to get your sculpting pants on :D

Rich 123
31-12-2005, 10:08
Are you talkign fluff-wise that there is a different princeps in each titan or do you mean forgeworld make a different princeps for each individual titan? Or is it a different princeps for each class of titan they make (which makes more sense looking at the pics on FW website).

The Princeps has always seemed to me liek the nicest thing to convert on a titan - as its subtle and would really differentiate it to someone who recognises the FW titan models.

Rich

immortal99
31-12-2005, 10:16
He means the princeps is different (the one made by forgeworld) for each type of titan, having a different one for every titan would just be crazy!

"we've got another 16 titan orders today"
*groans*
"I don't want to have to sculpt yet another 16 princeps! Can't we just give them already done ones?"
"just alter them slightly, give one a bionic eye another a staff....."

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 11:31
Hehe, yes immortal is correct, however fluffwise, that would take some doing for there to only be one princeps.... The One :) bet he doesnt get annual leave :D

Rich 123
31-12-2005, 11:36
Well I thought as much - I was just hoping there was yet another reason to justify the cost - if that was the case I probably wouldnt be eating for the next month and would already have atitan on pre-order!

The princeps would probably have to book his leave a few years in advance so there was time to ship the titan back to mars in time for his break, hehe ;)

Rich

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 17:10
UPDATE LEG2 AND LEGS

Been Busy this afternoon, and here is what ive done so far.


Ive got all the parts for leg2 and Foot 2 ready,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg2partsready.jpg

I then secured Foot1 to the working surface, so that once parts are added it wont topple

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/toesecure.jpg

I think Blue tacked the waist to the hip, so i could begin dry fitting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsbuildbluetac.jpg


CONT>>>>>

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 17:21
I then fitted the waist, once this is glued i can start dry fitting the next hip, and begin with building the standing pose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/hips.jpg

Then i started the dryfitting of the second leg, this took forever, trying to get the 3 sections to look natural, while maintaining balance, and having significant clerance for the foot in whichever position it is. Im not sure what was harder, trying the pose's, or trying to take a picture while trying a pose :) sorry for the quality.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsdryfit.jpg


Once the pose was settled i had to construct the 3 sections of leg2 in the same manner i did leg1. Once these were glued, then i fitted them to the hip, making sure i kept sufficiant ground clearance for the foot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leg2glued.jpg


CONT>>>>>

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 17:28
Then i continued to the foot position, this is important as all the forward toes need to touch the surface cleanly.
Again i used the "slotabase Jacking system" (trademark to follow) this time 3 high.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot2startjacked.jpg


Once i was happy with this, i then had to start dry fitting the toes, as i said above its important all 3 forward toes are cleanly touching the ground, for balance.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot2toedryfit.jpg


Making sure all the toes are evenly touching the surface, so that the weight is distributed evenly. i then glued them into position, but not onto the foot. This is to make it easiar to insert the pistons. The toes were glued with them lined up on the foot just to make sure all the relationships were right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot2toesglued.jpg


CONT>>>>>>

Heero-Severus
31-12-2005, 17:35
I then inserted the pistons into the toes, and they were then ready to glue into place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/foot2toesfinished.jpg


The toes were then glued to the foot. the jacks were moved away slightly so that the toes took the weight of the legs, and then left to harden for a short while. and here is the pose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsfront.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsside.jpg


Not wanting to chicken out , or have a borring titan, i decided to take a risk and try some dynamisism. enjoy.

treesing
31-12-2005, 18:03
i am thinking of getting one but are they easy to build as they dont look it also what would it look like in dark angels colours (green and deathwing)do u know?

cpl_hicks
31-12-2005, 18:22
1 question

in the pics you have taken there are at least 4 differant colours of resin, now do all of these have the same texture or is each differant colour a differant texture?

Chaos and Evil
31-12-2005, 18:55
1 question

in the pics you have taken there are at least 4 differant colours of resin, now do all of these have the same texture or is each differant colour a differant texture?

Generally with FW resin, darker equates to stronger, lighter equates to finer details and crisper lines.

Norminator
31-12-2005, 19:30
Wow, this is really going along now. It does look great Heero, but the 'long term project' seems to be not taking too long...

*Must not buy titan - Must not buy titan - etc.*

treesing
31-12-2005, 20:07
is there update every night?

Puffin Magician
31-12-2005, 20:15
Well Heero, congrats for completing the most irritating part of a Warhound. In my attempt to give my Scratchound as much detail as the FW model, I can assure you that I know full well how annoying all those pistons are, as well as the toes themselves.

In comparison, the carapace and arms will be fun to work on since they're such big components; you'll have the Titan looking like a Titan in no time, and soon be able to clean and paint this beast.

And yes, this isn't exactly a long-term, slow project any longer... wish I could get mine finished this fast... *grumble mutter...

treesing
31-12-2005, 20:26
have you any pics of your "Scratchound" as it sound interesting

Norminator
31-12-2005, 20:27
Yeah, all I've seen is the head/torso puffin, anymore updates?

Ragnar Ohman
31-12-2005, 21:47
Well, you sure have some skills. I just got a chaos dragon from FW. they have pretty neat models.

Drools for the painted Warhound though :)

dark angel
31-12-2005, 21:47
will there be anymore updates tonight

Puffin Magician
31-12-2005, 21:49
The Titan broke in transit across the ocean in a box, and has since been repaired, broken again, repaired again, and painted boltgun metal. The legs only need a final few coats of metallic before highlighting and then they're finished. The blocky ankle armour isn't attached so I'm free to paint that later. The head has received a large Aquila that will be painted gold after I've sorted out the Legion colour scheme. Boltgun metal has also been painted onto the head. I have all the components completed, although they aren't put together and not 100% detailed. Weapons: Done. Legs: Done. Head: Done. What I need is the rear of the carapace... void shields, cables, reactor vents, armour detail. Lack of materials and tools, and the knowledge that it will again be broken during it's journey has stunted any motivation to continue.

The link in my signature will take you to my Photobucket account where scamp images are located. Direct links for the warseer on the go: 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Puffinmagician/Imperial%20Guard%20and%20Adeptus%20Mechanicus/Titan1.jpg) 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Puffinmagician/Imperial%20Guard%20and%20Adeptus%20Mechanicus/Titan2.jpg) 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Puffinmagician/Imperial%20Guard%20and%20Adeptus%20Mechanicus/Titan3.jpg) 4 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/Puffinmagician/Imperial%20Guard%20and%20Adeptus%20Mechanicus/Titan4.jpg)

Norminator
01-01-2006, 00:04
Wow, that looks fantastic.

HiveFleetEzekial
01-01-2006, 00:33
don't know if it's been suggested yet (lotta pages by the time i got around to seeing this).

but have you pinned the feet on the legs?

the joints for all those small bits looked like they'd be rather fragile, and with all the extra weight pushing down on them, i can almost see it breaking them off later on sometime from just setting it down. would hate to think of anything else on it breaking after such an accident.

ones i've seen on FW have them all laying flat too. would surmise that would provide a bit more stability, having the big round bottom of the main piece touching ground level too.

Ageman
01-01-2006, 02:27
hello i have saved enough money to buy a titan from forgeworld but i wanted to know which of there warhounds was in your opinons is the better variation. mars, jackal, or standard warhound please.

MIGHTYPanhead
01-01-2006, 02:32
i would imagine it would be up to which weapons you think are best, plas-las, inferno-mega, or mega,plas

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 02:32
Thanks for all the comments.

Yes im moving at quite some pace, and indeed faster than i expected. But i still cant see this being finished for a few monthes. Building will always be easiar than the painting. Plus im yet to make any "alterations" to pieces.

Ive posted everyday (or near as) to give myself motivation to work past the irritating pistons and leg poses (73 pieces in all? forgive me if my math is ****) Which is somthing i do often with this forum to motivate me (other projects like my nurgle demon prince are a good example).

The explanation on the colours of the resin seems correct, they certainly feel harder and more brittle the darker they get.

With the legs ive opted to go without Pinning, or To strong glue (2 part epoxy etc) i want the model to break where ive glued it rather than within a part. As a whole the model is strong, ive put some weight through the waist and the glue, and resin has taken it nicely.


Treesing - Titans are not part of a space marine army, (im taking it you wanted to add it to a dark angels army) however it is possible to have a Mechanicus army that just happened to share the same colours, just dont transfer the iconography. Ive also seen youve mentioned entering youngbloods so i imagine your <16 yrs old, i would suggest doing a smaller FW kit if you havent before just to get a feel for what your getting into, one of the new tau battle suits by fw would be a good start. (i apologise if ive come across as patronising at all, im just trying to give you the best advice)

Puffin -, that scratch build is awsome, i have never tried anything quite so skilled, im ok at glueing manufactured pieces together, but im no good at making the pieces, i tilt my goblet to you sir :)

If you have any questions, or would like any specific photos, or pretty much any request (for the record im already betrothed to TG, so no more proposals) please feel free to put anything relevant here, particularily of your own experiances with warhounds. Cheers again, and lets see what tommorow brings...


Ohh and HAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPYYYYYY NEWWWWWW YEEEEEEEAAAAR

Getz
01-01-2006, 02:32
hello i have saved enough money to buy a titan from forgeworld but i wanted to know which of there warhounds was in your opinons is the better variation. mars, jackal, or standard warhound please.

Personally I like the Lucius Wolf pattern the most, but the Mars and Lucius Jackal have the best weapon fits on the whole.

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 02:40
hello i have saved enough money to buy a titan from forgeworld but i wanted to know which of there warhounds was in your opinons is the better variation. mars, jackal, or standard warhound please.


Id say the Jackal is the most fun to play with, and the head is awsome. But it depends on wether you are after the "punchiest" weapons or the look. Id definatly recommend going for the Jackal if you want to punish a feth load of foot sloggers !

Ageman
01-01-2006, 02:51
thanks and for those of you who want cheap titans look at this place

http://www.scrapheap.bigstep.com/

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 15:32
UPDATE LEGS COMPLETED


Okay, so yesturday we all got a bit excited thinking the legs were finished alas, they had not..... i forgot i still had all the pistons to do!!! (mental blocking, denial etc) So for the last 2 hours ive been doing pistons... lucky me..

But finally the legs are finished.

here is a pic with the Armour on, just to get the "finished feel" however the armour will be removed soon, so that it can be modded, im not sure if im going to use those shinguards or the plain ones yet.

anyways here they are.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsfinished.jpg

immortal99
01-01-2006, 15:34
They look cool. Very cool. Very complicated as well. Now you can start on the body and the gunz! :evilgrin:

CELS
01-01-2006, 15:56
Or you can just drop the body and the guns, attach a head and use it as it is....

How much time do you reckon you've used so far, Heero?

dark angel
01-01-2006, 16:02
cool is the torso hard to put together

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 16:11
I wouldnt like to say how much time, probubly looking at around the 15 hour mark atm.

dark angel
01-01-2006, 16:16
ill you be posting any more pics today?

Deadleyheadley
01-01-2006, 18:27
UPDATE LEGS COMPLETED


Okay, so yesturday we all got a bit excited thinking the legs were finished alas, they had not..... i forgot i still had all the pistons to do!!! (mental blocking, denial etc) So for the last 2 hours ive been doing pistons... lucky me..

But finally the legs are finished.

here is a pic with the Armour on, just to get the "finished feel" however the armour will be removed soon, so that it can be modded, im not sure if im going to use those shinguards or the plain ones yet.

anyways here they are.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/legsfinished.jpg


WOW looks sweet :) cant belive how big its :eek:

dark angel
01-01-2006, 18:35
there bigger than they look !!!

not to say that for all FW models COUGH COUGH

dark angel
01-01-2006, 18:35
im thinking of getting a chaos one do you think it will be much different?

dark angel
01-01-2006, 18:38
you say that you might use the plain shin guards

does it come with them and does it come with any more
parts custom the titan

Puffin Magician
01-01-2006, 18:49
Dark Angel, instead of making lots of posts each with a single sentence and especially seperated by mere minutes, edit your post instead. Nobody looks kindly towards spam.

As for the Chaos Warhound, have a look (http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/chaostitan.htm) for yourself. The only real difference is the spikey Chaosness; both are Mars-pattern hulls so the design is identical.

And Heero, I'd use the Imperial Eagle armour. Why pay for all that resin bling and not use it?

dark angel
01-01-2006, 18:51
sorry i didnt know you could edit (im new)

Deadleyheadley
01-01-2006, 18:52
And Heero, I'd use the Imperial Eagle armour. Why pay for all that resin bling and not use it?

Id after agree with that :) i defo use the imperial eagle

dark angel
01-01-2006, 19:07
any pics of the normal ones??

Marshal Draziel
01-01-2006, 19:11
The normal one isn't that great

This is my warhound - compared to a nomal rhino, its not that great..

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/Draziel_87/My%20figures/titan.jpg

Now, its just collecting dust... :eyebrows:

dark angel
01-01-2006, 19:13
have you any more pics

(that ones a bit light)

immortal99
01-01-2006, 19:18
sorry i didnt know you could edit (im new)


You clearly don't know how to use proper grammer either :rolleyes: and the edit button is pretty obvious, I don't see how you could miss it.

That titan doesn't look half as big next to a rhino. Its interesting to see a hight comparison next to a tank.

Marshal Draziel
01-01-2006, 19:29
yes - those pics were taken back in July - whereas I just took these...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/Draziel_87/My%20figures/STA70037.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/Draziel_87/My%20figures/STA70038.jpg

I just sat it next to my Bt Predator and the other mess...


note - This was my very first FW model - so perhaps I didn't really know what I was doing.... (paint wise)

dark angel
01-01-2006, 19:49
im not very good at spelling and my grammar is crap so please dont put me down immortal99

Marshal Draziel
01-01-2006, 20:00
Off Topic:
Come on, you know better than this. Just because some poor soul is'nt very handy with gramma and spelling we don't burn them at the stake...

Negative behavior towards others, lead nowhere.... Sadly some people don't understand this...

Deadleyheadley
01-01-2006, 20:01
Off Topic:
Come on, you know better than this. Just because some poor soul is'nt very handy with gramma and spelling we don't burn them at the stake...

This is not a pun, but negative behavior towards others, lead nowhere....
I have to agree :)
Any back to the post after seing all these titans ive desided i will order one at the same time as the new cadian upgrades dont know which one but out of intrest do all the imperial titans come with both types of armour and are the instructions a bit better that the baneblades

plasmadaemon
01-01-2006, 20:35
*Too long, didn't read* ;)

Nice going heero, not much to comment on right now, but meh, still looks cool as hell.:skull:

Knighty
01-01-2006, 20:43
This is coming along a lot faster than expected.

Looks like a titan is the new in-thing to buy, you've started a trend Heero ;)

Marshal Draziel
01-01-2006, 20:50
well, I wouldn't say that... I bought mine a year ago... I just assembled and painted it in july...



trend... hmmm... perhaps

CELS
01-01-2006, 21:10
Meh. I've been planning to buy one for ages. It's only now that I can afford it. Well, soon anyways.

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 21:11
haha, some quality spammage on this thread, and plenty of claws.

I will post some pics of the plain shinguards later, got people round at the moment so havent got time :) im already being shouted at :D

Cmon Deadly jump on board :D more titans the better :D

dark angel
01-01-2006, 21:14
what u up to now on the titan??

scottb
01-01-2006, 21:36
This is coming along a lot faster than expected.

Looks like a titan is the new in-thing to buy, you've started a trend Heero ;)
Yeh I`am thinking about getting a mars warhound now...damn you sir, not got an imperial titan yet :)

Heero-Severus
01-01-2006, 23:44
what u up to now on the titan??


dood, im glad your interested and all, but can you not post things like this, as soon as somthing is done it will be updated on here. People will get bogged down with one line posts and stop reading this thread. I mean no offence as i say im glad you are interested but as i said ive got people round tonight so reallynothing is gonna get done is it. Please dont reply or flame this post just leave the thread to titan related issues and not requests for updates or anything else similar.

Thanks

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 00:46
Ok theres been a couple of requests to see what the other shinguard looks like, so heres a comparison photo.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/shinguards.jpg


While removing the detailed guard i was a bit to hard and managed to snap off the mount from the leg DOH!! but its an easy fix and shouldnt take me 30mins tommorow, if anything im glad it broke, now i can make it stronger (6million dollar man style :) ) but heres a pic so you can see the damage, a man with a rush and being too forceful can get u.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/DOH.jpg

sheep
02-01-2006, 02:28
That happened to mine too, only i broke both at the same time, much cursing and gesticulating was involved . . . . and then i glued it back together.

Still interesting, keep up the good work.

Cheers

Sheep

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 11:22
UPDATE BODY BEGINS


Ok the legs are fixed, and now im onto the body.

As with the feet and legs ive taken all the parts out and had a play around with them and given them a good looking over.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/Bodypartsasopened.jpg

Ive taken a few pictures to show you some of the interior details you get.
First up the gun servitor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/weaponservitorfrombox.jpg


Here is a top view of the servitor, and at the end of the arrow you can see where part of the mould was left (blue)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/weaponservitorfromboxtop.jpg



CONT>>>>

plasmadaemon
02-01-2006, 11:24
Hooray! Interior! :D

Are you going to undercoat the pieces and then paint and glue them, or stick them all together and paint them with the rest of the titan?

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 11:28
next up is the techpriests console at the back of the body,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/techpriestconsole.jpg


Then the left hand shoulder interior detail, the tech console will fit flush to the left hand side of the details and the servitor on the right.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/leftshoulderintdetails.jpg


and the right hand shoulder, same as above but the other way around (naturally)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/rightshoulderintdetails.jpg



CONT>>>>>>

nanktank
02-01-2006, 11:32
Fascinating Its interesting watching how the pro's do it, keep up the good work.

plasmadaemon
02-01-2006, 11:32
That's a lot of wires to paint! ;)

Question: How does the titan structure look like without the cabins/crew compartments? Can you not attach the cabins/compartments to the titan and make your own one easily enough?

Rich 123
02-01-2006, 11:32
This is why I love what comes out of Forgeworld and why I think it's products merit the over the top price tag.

I could while away weeks just painting the interior of one of these. Although Id want to do some proper conversion work to that princeps before hand of course ;). Whill you be doing anything to him or the pilots Heero?

And no, PD - I know its a complaint you've made of some of my more static minis - but I wouldnt make a princeps really dynamic :P

Umm, pro? Are you not just going through the considered step anyone would take in making a large resin kit? Forgive me if I'm wrong of course.

Rich

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 11:42
neeeexxxt. Is the front of the interior with the door to the "cockpit" (not the same place as you go for a good night out ;) )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/frontinterior.jpg


These 2 plaques sit on the left and right hand walls just outside the door to the cockpit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/mechanicus-shrine.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/imperialplaque.jpg



PD - I will dry fit all parts (expect an update with pics from that) and assess how much access is lost to my brush if parts are glued. Obviously each way has its benefits. but before ive managed to paint the interior while it was glued (altho im hoping to make improvements on previous titans)



Im still waiting for volunteers to fill the positions.

Moderati 1 =
Moderati 2 =

PlasmaGun Servitor =
Vulcan MegaBolter Servitor =

TechPriest =

ServoSkull 1 =
ServoSkull 2 =


(Volunteers or suggestions of names)

Rich 123
02-01-2006, 11:46
Well I have a name that I seem to use across Imperial armies/characters for a while - Corvaticus. I cant remember where I got it from but its even become the name of my Warseer marine.

Does that seem rather good for a techpriests name? Seeing as youre asking ;)

I love everything about techmarines and the AM, I seem to have loads of conversion ideas for them. I still want to do something investigating their collection and colating of flora and fauna. Something I was going to put on my bike conversion but ran quickly out of room.

Rich

Neknoh
02-01-2006, 11:53
Why not take the names from Exterminatus Now?
http://exterminatusnow.comicgenesis.com/d/20030929.html

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 11:59
I wont be converting any of the parts or altering pieces, I just dont think the model needs it, the FW sculptors have done a fantastic job, and thats what you pay the money for. But that isnt to say i would deter anyone else from trying.

Rich.... if he wants to call me a pro.... dont **** on my chips let me basque in the glory :D

Rich 123
02-01-2006, 12:03
Sorry, not intended as such! :angel:

Maybe I just got a bit too interested in the idea of each princeps being different!

Rich

charlie_c67
02-01-2006, 14:27
Are you gonna paint this as one thing or do the legs, body, and arms seperately?

MIGHTYPanhead
02-01-2006, 17:56
:eek: volunteers?

would you mean forum names? or RL names? or just some random names?

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 18:34
Hehe all will be revealed as too the painting of such a beast :)

And as for Volunteers, if People want to volunteer there services to be part of the titan crew, im cool with that. Altho regular posters will get priority seats :) it saves me the effort of naming them.

immortal99
02-01-2006, 18:36
Can I be one?

EDIT: The detail on that interior looks great.

MIGHTYPanhead
02-01-2006, 18:40
And as for Volunteers, if People want to volunteer there services to be part of the titan crew, im cool with that. Altho regular posters will get priority seats :) it saves me the effort of naming them.

well, seeing as all the regulare's will want fancy spots, i think i'll volunteer as a servo skull, let's just hope that they're not too popular ;)

plasmadaemon
02-01-2006, 18:41
Um... I'll be the lord please Heero :p

The plasmablaster servitor will be a nice place for me, obviously ;)

Getz
02-01-2006, 18:58
CanI volunteer to be a Gun Servitor? The one aiming the Gatling Megabolter please!

dark angel
02-01-2006, 19:01
can i be a gun servitor(if not anything) i just like the idea of being in a titan

Hideous Loon
02-01-2006, 19:05
Can I be one of the Moderatii? Pretty, please, with sugar on top?

Marshal Draziel
02-01-2006, 19:11
hehe.. always wanted to be a Mechanicus Priest - Can I be the Tech Priest?
Draziel is a cool name for an Adept of Mars...

Deadleyheadley
02-01-2006, 19:19
If theres no spaces left id love to be a servo skull or may be you could name one of the weapons "Deadley" ;)

Princeps
02-01-2006, 21:04
I should be the princeps.

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 21:32
I should be the princeps.

no, no i dont think you should.... Princeps Princeps... thats just daft :P

Ok so here is the peeps so far who are interested these are not the finalised positions. But just as things stand.

Moderati 1 = Hideous Loon
Moderati 2 =

PlasmaGun Servitor =PD
Vulcan MegaBolter Servitor =GETz (guncalled headley)

TechPriest = Draziel

ServoSkull 1 = Mighty Panhead,
ServoSkull 2 = Deadly Headly

Interested non-specifics
Immortal


I belive i should also have another servitor on that list, i will check IAU in a lil while. No updates tonite, ive had a day off from it. Built a fish tank made 3 meals for the family, and just enjoyed some peace :D

Lord Gordonis
02-01-2006, 21:32
Could be the sevitor/person who operates the sheilds etc, btw very very very nice atm

HiveFleetEzekial
02-01-2006, 21:36
what are the moderatii exactly? haven't done allot of reading on titans. main controllers?

wouldn't mine that :) would prefer plasma gunner, but it'a already taken. (DA, and i love my plasmas :D )

Deadleyheadley
02-01-2006, 21:37
Cheers for the servo skull :) and the GUN :) i cant wait to see the finished titan and all its crew

tzeentchgiant
02-01-2006, 22:29
As your lawful wedded husband (remember the night I proposed, in front of that squad of witch hunters, ah), I request that my name features somewhere on the vehicle :p.

Very cool, if we weren't married, I'd propose again....

..... I'm not joking

TG

Puffin Magician
02-01-2006, 23:14
My guess would be is that the Moderatii fulfil the roles of Driver, Navigator & Engineering officer. The Princeps just tells them where to go and what to do, and with the rest of the crew mindless Servitors and a busy Techpriest, they move it around, turn things off and on, transfer power, and step on things if necessary.

What will be the name of the Titan itself, Heero? That's what I'm interested in. I expect an answer tomorrow, you deserve a rest.

Burnthem
02-01-2006, 23:19
I thought that the Princeps completely controlled the driving and shooting, becuase he is 'wearing' the titan, controlling it as directly as a suit of power armour. The moderatii and servitors regulate power and systems etc, and generally making sure everything is running properly.

Heero-Severus
02-01-2006, 23:22
As far as i know your are correct, the servitors for the weapons are effectivly part of the machine, where the princep may think "ill blat that with my plasma blast cannon" the servitor will be "ffs gotta aim the gun again"

I belive the moderati will be controling power etc.

I was saving a moderati spot for you TG :D

MIGHTYPanhead
02-01-2006, 23:30
might i suggest giving them names based off of the usernames, instead of just word for word?

eg. loon, instead of hideous_loon, Panhead instead of MIGHTYPanhead, etc. etc.

some work (like Getz) but others (like MIGHTYPanhead) don't make much sense as titan crew names

just a thought

Puffin Magician
02-01-2006, 23:45
I had a quick look in Adeptus Titanicus and it says the Princeps moves the Titan and controls the Void Shields, and the Moderatii direct the weapons. Now this is when Warhounds only had a crew of 3, so I guess their systems have become less reliable than human brains.

With Servitors now directing the weapons, and a Techpriest monitoring the reactor, the Princeps and Moderatii seem to be fightning over a job. I guess the movement and mundane switch-flipping is done by the Moderatii and the Princeps' Mind Impulse Unit merely keeps him updated on the Titan's systems and sends orders to the rest of the mind-linked crew.

And again, Heero: Titan? Name yet?

Getz
03-01-2006, 00:10
I would have thought the Princeps has a role similar to a tank commander. Overseeing the entire functioning of the titan and directing it's actions. the moderatii no doubt "drive" the Titan and control it's guns, and the Servitors are analogous to Targeting computers - slavishly doing what the gunnery officer tells them.

Heero-Severus
03-01-2006, 07:31
I think "the mighty panhead works"

"forged from re-used kitchen utensils, and put to work in the Adeptus Titanicus, Panhead earned tHe Mighty title, when it single handedly fixed the recaff machine, to make a more desirable cup of recaff"

Heero-Severus
03-01-2006, 10:36
but his name is pan head :/ hehe

Sojourner
03-01-2006, 10:42
I imagine the Princeps handles the tactical decisions and overall control i.e:

- focus on a target
- think "target"
- Servitors comply. Princeps gets a visual or mental confirmation
- think "fire"

It's much the same as a human body. You don't have to calculate the amount of force needed to move your limbs, you just do it. The Princeps is the conscious control part of the Titan's gestalt mind.

TrollTyg
03-01-2006, 12:48
I imagine the Princeps handles the tactical decisions and overall control i.e:

- focus on a target
- think "target"
- Servitors comply. Princeps gets a visual or mental confirmation
- think "fire"

It's much the same as a human body. You don't have to calculate the amount of force needed to move your limbs, you just do it. The Princeps is the conscious control part of the Titan's gestalt mind.

Read Titan god machine, then you would know somewhat how it works, great comic by the way.
Are there going to be some new pictures soon? would like to se the interials of the titan :)

Heero-Severus
03-01-2006, 13:58
Are there going to be some new pictures soon? would like to se the interials of the titan :)


You would probubly do well to go back a few pages, all the internals are pictured there.

Im working on it atm :) so expect some more tonight.

Burnthem
03-01-2006, 16:31
I imagined a titan to be like a human body, the Princeps is the concsious (sp) mind, controlling all its actions like walking and shooting, whereas the rest of the crew control all of the 'unconsciouss' (sp) actions, like keeping the heart beating and lungs breathing in the human body..

Norminator
03-01-2006, 16:33
I think the princeps is more supposed to keep control of the animal like machine spirit which is in the Titan (I think it's supposed to be dog or bear like, whilsts space ships have whale like machine spirits. I guess Chimeras have hamsters or something ;))

TheSaint
03-01-2006, 16:37
Well, with the mind-link in place. The princeps becomes the Titan. The Titan lives of the princeps sortof. It's neatly described in the Titan series.

Norminator
03-01-2006, 16:39
In IA3, IIRC, when a Warhound titan was shot by a Tiger Shark on taros the princeps in it was killed by the 'scream' of his machine spirit.

tzeentchgiant
03-01-2006, 16:43
I was saving a moderati spot for you TG :D
He he, thanks very much, when I get home, I'm going to make a nice little model, then name part of it after you.

Fair's fair.

TG

MIGHTYPanhead
03-01-2006, 17:05
I think "the mighty panhead works"

"forged from re-used kitchen utensils, and put to work in the Adeptus Titanicus, Panhead earned tHe Mighty title, when it single handedly fixed the recaff machine, to make a more desirable cup of recaff"

hehe, "unfortunate chef, welded to his tools of the trade unfortunately decapitated, re-institution as a servo skull in process"

i guess it makes more sense than i thought :p

Princeps
03-01-2006, 17:52
Storm of Iron has some good Titan bits if anyone needs a better understanding of princeps and moderati.

skiff
03-01-2006, 19:01
let me guess...this titan is fu**ing big? :eek:

man, man i wanna see it when it's ready.

TheSaint
03-01-2006, 19:30
I put up some pictures of an assembled one in this thread:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20779

Hope you don't mind Heero, I'll delete this post if you want.

Nasty_Bugger!
03-01-2006, 19:39
oh god-crappy-damn... i want a titan or big thing of some kind... its all looking cool, and ive heard that titans are hell to build...

especially the feet...

Marshal Draziel
03-01-2006, 20:14
well, the feet are hard - but I feel that every time I had to glue the head in place, it never stayed put...

EmperorsChamp01
03-01-2006, 20:17
If you want to know alittle of what teh Princept does. Read the BL book Crusade for armagaddon. Its a really good book and it stays pretty close to teh fluff.

Heero-Severus
03-01-2006, 22:13
Im having a few troubles (not really troubles but more extra work) with the body, the parts are not aligning properly, so im filing away to get the fit right, i can also see the need for plenty of greenstuff.
I may be wrong but the Mars pattern is alot smaller inside than the others.
Still enjoying this but no pics tonight sorry.


The Saint, feel free to post pics they are usefull to the thread and its impressive to see another titan :)

plasmadaemon
03-01-2006, 22:17
Milliput is your friend ;) It's cheaper than GS, and sticks to the surface much better allowing quicker and smoother fill-ups, you can also easily cut it when it's mid-way into driyng. :)

Puffin Magician
03-01-2006, 23:56
I may be wrong but the Mars pattern is alot smaller inside than the others. The large carapace of the Lucius pattern is deceptive. The reactor/exhaust area is the same size; in the Mars there is no carapace while in the Lucius the top extends downwards to surround them. The arms don't take up much room at all on the Lucius, and aside from the Gun Servitor stations there's nothing underneath that massive skin of adamantium.

Sorry to hear that the body's not fitting properly. That's a frustrating blow to what's otherwise a real pleasure to do. Hopefully it won't take too long and we can get back to reveling in it's marvelousness.

It's good to see such a time-consuming project move along so rapidly; I'm itching to get going again with mine and hopefully in a few months I'll be able to. I know I say that a lot but it's actually plausible this time!

TheSaint
04-01-2006, 05:34
@Heero, I had the same problem with the body misaligning. Used a Dremel a lot and some greenstuff.

CELS
04-01-2006, 09:54
Sorry if this has been asked already, but will all the interior details be accessible once you've assembled this thing? I mean, will it be possible to attach a few parts with magnets, and then open the Titan from time to time, in order to show off at the local gaming store? :)

Heero-Severus
04-01-2006, 12:44
The way im looking at this, is to glue the reactor and one of the exhausts together with a servitor, and then the front carapace and another exhaust with the servitor. this way i will have 2 pieces that will be easy to paint, and less hassle sticking together once painted.

The top armour fits in a way that it lifts freely, but will also stay with out magnets to show your handy work. The head is the same, with the top simply lifting off.

Heero-Severus
09-01-2006, 23:00
UPDATE BODY BUILDING

Oook, so things have started getting a bit slow. Fitting the body sections has been a tough few sessions. Ive got a few pics, showing problem areas, the biggest of which was the reactor, its the most squeewed piece of resin ive seen in my life! its been a nightmare to get it to sit flush. heres a few pictures of where im up too then, which is with the exhaust systems stuck to the reactor. the rest of the body parts are fitting well on dry fits. and the next phase will be to start glueing them. heres the pics


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/enginseerpannel.jpg
the highlighted areas show the main areas that have been filed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/engineexhaustfit.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/engineexhaustsglued.jpg

Heero-Severus
09-01-2006, 23:03
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/gaps.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/mechanicus-shrineinstalled.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/nameplateinstalled.jpg

Alas the titan is now on the shelf. i have a couple of commisions to do, plus work on a few pieces for ebay. and then hopefully a 1500pt army for carnage, lavfluris keeps bending my ear ;)

tzeentchgiant
09-01-2006, 23:31
Well, it looks like a nice solid job overall, best of luck with the GSing, as there are definitely a few bits that need some more attention.

Well done on the fitting though, it certainly looks tough.

TG

BaronDG
10-01-2006, 07:38
May I ask what "extras" you get with ordering a Titan? Duplicates and variants? Is the tech priest included?

Heero-Severus
10-01-2006, 22:25
No real "extras" just the variable shin guards. Which if you look at the FW titan has a mix of the 2 types. other than that you get no extra crew. Only the moderatis x2 princeps and gunservitors x2 are included, but are the "essential" crew.

TG, yeah its time consuming, but im determined to do it properlly, and its things like this that make it such a long project. Im sure if i wanted to i could of built the whole thing in a day, and its all the attention to details and hard work that make the kit worth its value.

tzeentchgiant
10-01-2006, 23:04
Is it almost as time consuming as putting capitals into your posts? :p ;)

Seriously though, great work, any more ideas about the painting, or should that be for another thread?

TG

Mykman
02-02-2006, 09:34
I hope this thread will be resurrected soon. This was my favorite :cries:
Where is our Heero now ?? :confused:

Heero-Severus
02-02-2006, 15:54
Hehe, he is in the middle of several commisions, and a Tournament army.
This project will take me some time, and the key will be to take it in stages (as not to stagnate my wish to build it)

Possibibly work starting again in March.

Teufelskerl
03-02-2006, 00:40
I'll add my "here, here!" to looking forward to seeing the Titan project's resurrection. I've enjoyed watching your work (and Titans hold a special place in my heart.)

Perhaps seeing some photos of your current work might hold us over until you come back to it (hint, hint).

Frederich

|crisis|
03-02-2006, 08:02
well .. I say that any hardcore FW model is gonna be a pain in the **** ... good work on this one, and I hope you pull it off the shelf and knock it out ... good work so far, even if you do have a long way to go ... I'm excited to see progress on it ... :)

Heero-Severus
03-02-2006, 14:50
Perhaps seeing some photos of your current work might hold us over until you come back to it (hint, hint).

Frederich


All my projects are posted on this forum, you may want to take a look at my crimson fist librarian here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23342)


Cheers for the comments guys, its definatly on my list after the Crimson fists are finished.

Mykman
06-04-2006, 09:24
Now the Crimson fists are finished as I see .When will you continue this magnificent beast ? :)

last_chancer
06-04-2006, 12:43
Just posting to subscribe...

*Subscribes*
(nice one, TG!)

Awesome, truly awesome...
Good luck with this!

Lostanddamned
06-04-2006, 14:18
Heero, I have several "spare" titan tech preists due to a cock up from FW, If you are intrested I may be able to post one (in the UK) to you at a reasonable cost (just postage)

Lovely Project, looks better than my titan (the FW crew and a box full of bank statements telling me how much more I need to save...)

Heero-Severus
11-04-2006, 20:02
Ladies and Gentlemen . The Mars Titan assembly line has re-commenced. Ive done alot tonite, alas my camera is dead. But i thought i would offer this insight and hopefully get you all interested again :D w00tles

Lostanddamned PM coming your way.

EDIT - this may want moving to the project logs. Also this is post 222 made me smile as its the Second Coming ! :)

Norminator
11-04-2006, 20:04
Whey hey, keep it coming Heero!

Warboss Garfang
11-04-2006, 20:16
Looks awesome, but you've certainly still got your work cut out for you. Awesome model, looks like it needs a ton of work.

Keep it up! Can't wait to see it done.

tzeentchgiant
11-04-2006, 23:56
Where's my update?

Got my hopes up for nuthin' you did :p.

TG

maraxis
12-04-2006, 16:48
Very Impressive to date Heero, as with your other projects!!!

Keep up the great work!!!

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 20:39
hhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeee we go :D

UPDATE

Ok its been a while out, for those who havent read the rest of this thread you may want to before asking any questions (ive read it a couple of times over just to check for myself)

I picked up where i left off, which apparently i did with great forsight, the model had started to become tedious with all the filling and sanding needed on the reactor. I had however finished this before putting the model down for a few months. This means im picking up the model without much heavy work left.

I started out with the Plasmablastcannontypedeaththing, or PlasmaDemon as it is now called, it was fairly simple to construct, 3 main pieces and a couple of dress up parts.The gun was roughly positioned with the body in a dry fit to make sure i got the posing correct, this was tricky as i only have 2 hands and 6 pieces to hold!! so it was handy haveing a gf (most of the time they are useless). Because the weapons are so front heavy, each weighing more than a rhino, i decided to give the glue some back up, in the form of magnets. Magnet tutorials are ten apenny on these forums so i wont go into it. Here are the pictures of PlasmaDemon ready to be cleaned and painted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/plasmademon2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/plasmademon3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/plasmademon.jpg

CONT>>>

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 20:42
**CONT

Next up was the MEGABOLTERSUPERGATLINGBARBERASTREISANDCANNON or Getz-Headly as we shall forever now know it.

Same principles and techniques as applied to PlasmaDemon used here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/getz-headly2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/getz-headly.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/getz-headly3.jpg


CONT>>

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 20:46
**Cont

Next i went about fluffing up the reactor section and moving to finish it off for painting. plenty of flash needed removing on the exhaust areas, but nothing a hacksaw couldnt deal with. the rest was fairly simple cut and glue. The greenstuff was cleaned up to avoid any bulbous areas and a magnet was attatched to the waist joint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/reactorsscomplete.jpg

The head needed dry fitting, first off i cleaned up the top and bottom half and tested the fitting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/head.jpg

Then i cleaned down the moderati, princeps and headrests. Finally glueing the headrests into place.The moderati and princeps are loose for ease of painting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/cockpitdryfit.jpg

The canopy needed the metal guard placing and general clearing up work. (this didnt take long)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/canopy.jpg



CONt>>

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 20:49
**Cont

Finally i paired everything up on the desk just so i could get a feel of what im aiming for.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/torsofuture.jpg


Every main body section is now built up to its painting stage, only the details and any damage and weathering needs adding now. I also need to add the power cables for both weapons, and the head.

Norminator
12-04-2006, 20:52
Oh hell do I want a titan :cries:

Couple of questions,

1) Does the canopy come with that wire thing in?
2) How would you rate the model so far, as in looks and ease of assembly?

tzeentchgiant
12-04-2006, 20:54
Sweet :cool:.

Heero, you're my hero.

TG

athamas
12-04-2006, 21:00
this is so unfair...


they looks so so nice...


a great job so far!

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 21:18
Oh hell do I want a titan :cries:

Couple of questions,

1) Does the canopy come with that wire thing in?
2) How would you rate the model so far, as in looks and ease of assembly?

1) nope, the mesh is included in the kit, and is a simple superglue mission.
2)Looks - the detailing is amazing the scaling is ace, its not to big, not too small, and not part seems boring so deffo a 8/10 for looks. Ease of assembly, this is tricky, i reckon if i didnt give a hoot and just wanted it built, i could of done this in a day, especially if i didnt care about the interior detail. Im trying to achieve a decent and respectable level of modelling with this kit, so its a little harder. But thats the same with most kits, its what you make of it. I would say though that this isnt a kit for the feint hearted, and alot of organiseation is required if you want to make sure everything fits and you dont break stuff.



TG - i love you :x

tzeentchgiant
12-04-2006, 21:21
TG - I love you :x
That's why we make such a good couple ;).

BTW, where are all the names of the components :)?

TG

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 21:28
BTW, where are all the names of the components :)?

TG

What do you mean ?

tzeentchgiant
12-04-2006, 21:31
The names of each part, you know how you were asigning each of the operators in the arms etc names, where are they in this thread?

TG

Heero-Severus
12-04-2006, 21:37
I found it for ya ;)





Moderati 1 = Hideous Loon
Moderati 2 = Tzeentch Giant (TG in this case the Adeptus Titanicus may have problem with a Tzeetch worshiper at the helm)

PlasmaGun Servitor =PD
Vulcan MegaBolter Servitor =GETz (guncalled headley)

TechPriest = Draziel

ServoSkull 1 = Mighty Panhead,
ServoSkull 2 = Deadly Headly

Interested non-specifics
Immortal

Mykman
13-04-2006, 07:04
Our Heero is back ! Thanks to the holly emperor ! :)

plasmadaemon
13-04-2006, 10:12
Ah, Heero, what did I miss? ;)

Nice to see you back on track, even though I'm a bit late at replying to this thread.

Heero-Severus
18-04-2006, 16:18
UPDATE

Torso.

Ive been toying with the torso, dry fitting, filing and dry fitting again, and everything seems peachy now. However im unsure wether to put the segmenting door into the rear interior section, It seems to crowd that area. Letme know what you think ive done a with and without shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/compair.jpg


CONT>>>

plasmadaemon
18-04-2006, 16:21
The less obstructions the better. Go without the door. :cool:

Heero-Severus
18-04-2006, 16:22
CONT>>>>

Ive also started the display base. At the start of this thread i mentioned the ruined administratum by forgeworld that i have laying around, and i intended for the titan to be straddling this or posed just after walking through it. However after playing around with the size of the building and the titan, i decided it was too big, and dominated the titan, which started to shrink on its base. So i decided for a smaller plinth type base with a city fight feel to it.

Heres a few step by step pics of what ive done today. It ends with the dry fit of all the major componants of the base. But by no means a finished product.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/plinth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/feetonplinth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/feetsetto-plinth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/feetsettoplinthsanded.jpg

CONT>>>

Hideous Loon
18-04-2006, 16:24
Yeah, skip the door, all it's doing is obstructing the area and making it look cluttered.

Heero-Severus
18-04-2006, 16:24
CONT>>>

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/wallsection.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/feetwallsettoplinth.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/HeeroSeverus/rough-compesitition.jpg

Please feel free to fire away with any questions, the elysian is just for scale, but expect space for titan crew around its feet.

Lostanddamned
18-04-2006, 16:30
Just curious as to what the blue foam does?

Heero-Severus
18-04-2006, 16:45
Just curious as to what the blue foam does?


Its blue and foamy? :eyebrows:

Ive used it so that i can model the titans feet slightly submersed into the floor, to show the weight. Its easy to work with and can be sanded.

Brush your teeth
18-04-2006, 17:09
its looking great so far. and also i vote no door in the cockpit

this just increaces my urge to buy forgeworld stuff.

maraxis
18-04-2006, 17:47
I like it with out the door but what about something converted from thin plasticard to work as a portal/door??? I like the base, you should do some terrain pieces of just the foot prints of the Titan (sunk into what ever he is walking throught. . . )

Goblit Skullhelm
18-04-2006, 18:40
I'll tell you what I think would be cool, if a bit impractical: if you could make a few of those bases, and make it possible to swap the titan's base depending on the board e.g. cityfight, snow, grass, etc.

Not sure how you'd hold it in that wway (magnets?) but I just thought it'd be possible with the way the feet are sunken into the ground.

Just a thought.

Heero-Severus
18-04-2006, 22:19
The base is "a display base" this is for when the model is being displayed, when and if i use it in a game, it will be free standing.