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Le Shirrif
24-06-2009, 17:53
Gozbag da Klever : 239
Black Orc Warboss
Heavy Armour and Shield
Gozbag's Bashin' 'Ammer (Ulags Akrit Axe)
Bigged's Kickin' Boots
Warboss Umm's Best Boss 'At
*
Gozbag is the leader of the “Scabby Eye” orks, a ferocious band of orks that reside in the mountains on the edge of the chaos wastes, constantly launching raids against many races. Gozbag himself is Jobba the Fat's idol – an actual tactical genius, for an ork anyway. His tactics use feints, flanking tactics, and various other plans too sophisticated for most orks. However, in practice they never come to fruition, due in main to the fact that the majority of his warband only remember the orders for around ten minuites. Only Gozbag's black ork bodyguard remember the plan for the whole battle. This means Gozbag spends most of the battle yelling obscenities at the nearest enemy, hitting those who don't obey his orders in an effort to retain control, and groaning resignedly into his hands. That is, when he isn't krumpin' heads with his magic hammer.


Gitkrunch da Strong : 135
Black Orc Big Boss
Battle Standard Bearer
Nogg's Banner of Butchery
*
Gitkrunch is Gozbags trusted second in command. Holding aloft Nogg's sacred banner, gifted to Gozbag by Nogg himself after the battle of Bannet Bern, when Nogg and Gozbag personally killed over two hunded empire state troops and two grand dukes between them. Gitkrunch is the only orc in his warband Gozbag trusts to follow his orders adroitly, and so Gitkrunch accompanies the feared black orcs into combat. Devoutly loyal to Gozbag, Gitkrunch follows his every order to a tee.


Gruntsplatter the Dull : 125
Orc Shaman
Level 2 Wizard
Dispel Scroll
*
Gruntsplatter is the totally insane shaman that accompanies Gozbag's warband. He wanders from tent to tent, muttering about the “good old days,” and “when I was a young orc...” The other orcs regard him as a nutjob, but none would say this too his face. His insanity and age are both due to the horrific power of the WAAAGH that floods through his body when the orcs march to war, changing him from a muttering, senile old crazy to a cackling dervish of pure elemental power.

Jobba the Fat: 100
Night Goblin Shaman
Staff of Sneaky Stealin'
*
Respected Goblin war shaman, suave diplomat, master tactician and mushroom connoisseur. At least, that's what he likes to think. In reality, he is a fat, petty, cowardly idiot with all the tactical sense of a dead hippo, who is trying to get high in Gozbags favour by miming his “Taktical Geneeus”. He will spend hours in a dimly lit cave, planning his crude tactics, that have no chance of succeeding. He will then sit atop a rock, watching with an orgasmic pleasure as his tactics come to fold – then when his goblins are slaughtered and run away, he starts yelling obscenities and hitting his attendants with a big stick. Too fat for his own good, he is nonetheless a skilled mage – for a goblin. This is nothing to do with his actual fighting skills, more to do with the fact that the massive amounts of magical trinkets he has stolen, traded or found over the years.

Da Boyz : 465
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician: 155*Gozbag goes here
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician: 155*Gruntsplatter goes here
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician: 155

Goblin Allies : 579
20 Night Goblins: Spears, Musician, Fanatic: 109*Jobba the Fat goes here
20 Night Goblins: Spears, Musician, Fanatic: 109
20 Night Goblins: Spears, Musician, Fanatic: 109
10 Goblin Wolf Riders: Musician: 126
10 Goblin Wolf Riders: Musician: 126

Da 'Ard Boys: 316
20 Black Orcs: Musician, Standard Bearer with Mork's Spirit Totem: 316* Gitkrunch goes here

Da Support : 145
Goblin Squig Lobber (Rock Lobber): Orc Bully: 75
2 Spear Chukka's: 70
2 Spear Chukka's: 70

::2174::

Rough Point Breakdown

Lord = 239 / 11%
Heroes = 360 / 16%
Core = 1044 / 47%
Special = 461 / 20%
Rare = 0

Le Shirrif
25-06-2009, 08:52
nothing? Is it perfect? (No)

rtunian
25-06-2009, 16:18
you have shield boyz, which need static cr to win combats, but not one of the three blocks has a banner. this is a mistake, and probably all three of them should have standard bearer

your night goblin blocks should be 21s so they require 6 deaths to panic instead of 5. if they are just for fanatic delivery, they should drop the spears, since such units should remain as cheap as possible. if you are intending for these ng blocks to be in combat (as something more than a speedbump) you need to upgrade the units with nets. generally, you don't do nets and spears because this is making your ng's cost as much as boyz but without the output or reliability

your fast cav should be in lots of 5 or 6 at the most (still with musician)

your black orcs are probably not going to be worth it. you should put mork's totem on your bsb if you really want to take it, and put your bsb in a unit of shield boyz. this will keep the rank bonus much better than a big block of blorcs. the banner of butchery can be straight up traded, so the blorcs have it instead of the bsb. you can then cut 5-10 blorcs and the unit will still be able to do the same job as before, but at a much lower cost

your bsb isn't mounted or wearing any armor. you should give him better protection

with only 5 pd at 2250, it's pointless to bring casters other than as magic defense. i would cut the orc shaman and replace with a big boss, possibly on a chariot. bringing the sneaky stealin staff and mork's totem, you have 7 dd and -1 pd for enemy, so you'd still have a solid mdef w/o the orc sham

taking no rare options is a huge mistake. o&g has so many extremely useful rares, from very cheap to a bit pricey, and all of them are good. i would seriously think about filling your rares allotment

Le Shirrif
25-06-2009, 17:47
I'm just going though making some changes. I am unsure which of these two heroes to take in place of the lvl2 shaman.

Gruntsplatter the Dull : 105
Orc Big Boss
Martogs Best Basha
Light Armour and Shield
Boar
He would go with one of the ork squads.

Snikrot the Fearsome : 71
Night Goblin Big Boss
The Pipes of Doom
Great Axe and Light Armour
He would go with one of the (new) 30 strong night goblins squads.

Le Shirrif
25-06-2009, 18:37
Doublepost. Thinking of this as the edited list...

REVISED LIST
Gozbag da Klever : 263
Black Orc Warboss
Heavy Armour and Shield
Gozbag's Bashin' 'Ammer (Ulags Akrit Axe)
Bigged's Kickin' Boots
Warboss Umm's Best Boss 'At
Boar

Gitkrunch da Strong : 180
Black Orc Big Boss
Battle Standard Bearer
Mork's Spirit Totem
Heavy Armour
Boar

Snikrot the Fearsome : 36
Night Goblin Big Boss
Great Axe and Light Armour

Jobba the Fat: 100
Night Goblin Shaman
Staff of Sneaky Stealin'

Da Boyz : 495
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician, Standard Bearer: 165*Gozbag goes here
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician, Standard Bearer: 165*
25 Orc Boys: Shields, Musician, Standard Bearer: 165

Goblin Allies : 642
30 Night Goblins: Musician, Standard Bearer, Fanatic, Netters, Champion: 170*Jobba the Fat goes here
30 Night Goblins: Musician, Standard Bearer, Fanatic, Netters: 162* Snikrot goes here
4 Squig Herds: 120
5 Goblin Wolf Riders: Musician: 66
5 Goblin Wolf Riders: Musician: 66
5 Goblin Wolf Riders: Musician: 66

Da 'Ard Boys: 356
25 Black Orcs: Musician, Standard Bearer with Nogg's Banner of Butchery: 356* Gitkrunch goes here

Da Gizmos : 190
Squig Diver (Doom Diver) 80
2 Spear Chukka's: 70
Snotling Pump Wagon: 40
Snotling Pump Wagon: 40

::2250::

Added some stuff, changed some stuff, etc. I don't think orc bosses are worth the 15 points - it would be 45 for all 3 squads, enough to buy me a pump wagon!

rtunian
25-06-2009, 18:54
this is alot tougher than your first list, and you are right about the orc champs

one thing though, is your pipes of doom won't get to take effect. since you can only possibly cast one other spell, most enemies will easily be able to dispel everything you can do, and have dispel dice left over. those points would be better spent on a 2nd pump wagon (since they are 2 for 1 slot).

Le Shirrif
25-06-2009, 19:00
List edited to take another pump wagon and no pipes.

Any ideas for the last 8 points? :P

rtunian
25-06-2009, 19:21
ng champ for the block with the shaman

Le Shirrif
25-06-2009, 19:23
Thanks a lot rtunian! My list definitely looks better now :D

rtunian
25-06-2009, 20:01
np & good luck