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highelfmage
24-06-2009, 22:42
defenders of utopia

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lord (general) (251)
Armour of calador (2+ save immune to flaming hits)
vambrace of defense ( 4+ ward, reroll Armour saves)
amulet of light ( magical attack in H2H for mount and rider)
halberd
star dragon (370)
2+ A reroll 4+ ward
621

mage lv1
2 scrolls
140

noble BSB
lance
shield
dragon armour ( heavy Armour but immune to flaming hits)
barded steed
battle banner ( d6 to combat res)
2+ A
218

10 archers
110

18 spearman
S/C/M
182

7 swordmaster X2
105

10 White lions
S/M
Lion banner (immune to fear and terror)
193

5 dragon princes
S/M
standard pf balance (immune to psychology and all units in base lose hatred and frenzy)
225

3 bolts
300

eagle
50

nick_robinsonchia
24-06-2009, 23:45
Very solid and competitive-maybe consider dropping the ben for a Mage and amping them up to lvl 2 each and getting banner of word instead on the dp? Multiple drain magics will hamper undead and demons nicely...

highelfmage
25-06-2009, 16:00
Very solid and competitive-maybe consider dropping the ben for a Mage and amping them up to lvl 2 each and getting banner of word instead on the dp? Multiple drain magics will hamper undead and demons nicely...

droping the bsb for mage? i like that idea but i love the fact that my dp can charge anything.

which banner should i run on my dp?

Wolfblaze
25-06-2009, 18:37
Would it actually be effective to use swordmasters in units of 7?
I just cant imagine them doing much when a unit of fast cav can pick them off so easilly, sorry for doubting you.

Basically im just interested in the way you would use the MSU strat. plz divulge ur secrets :P

chippyman64
25-06-2009, 18:48
wat about dropping bsb and taking mage on a dragon???

highelfmage
25-06-2009, 19:54
Would it actually be effective to use swordmasters in units of 7?
I just cant imagine them doing much when a unit of fast cav can pick them off so easilly, sorry for doubting you.

Basically im just interested in the way you would use the MSU strat. plz divulge ur secrets :P

i have 3 bolt throwers that can pick off fast cav. a unit of 14=shoot me for easy points. a unit of 7 can take just about any unit head on. who can survive 14 w6 s5 attacks. so far they have been super efficient to me. if you play high try it out in a test game or two.

i dont want to run dual dragon list. and i would have to drop my scroll caddie.

danny7865
25-06-2009, 23:30
Have you thought of running 7 white lions ? I often think reaver knights are overlooked and they are excellent for attacks on missile troops and war machines

highelfmage
26-06-2009, 00:11
Have you thought of running 7 white lions ? I often think reaver knights are overlooked and they are excellent for attacks on missile troops and war machines

in the past i did run 7 white lions. but they can't kill enough to win combat and everybody has fear these days. reaver are not worth a special choice. 1 shot each. not a fan. if they were like de with 2x shots maybe.

highelfmage
29-06-2009, 00:02
should add in anything dow in this list? like a cannon? since looks like DOW is allowed but not the specila characters.

any suggestion fo genral deplyment or game play?

Moepho
01-07-2009, 01:00
I was thinking of building a very similar list. Have you had a chance to play it yet? How did it do?

limkopi
01-07-2009, 12:46
I did a similar list before, but didn't have the WL. Didn't do well in the tourney due to several mistakes. This is a pretty finesse army so requires practice to identify the appropriate opportunities to strike. Did well enough during my practice games though.

Aceious
01-07-2009, 17:03
Running the Dp with the banner of ellyrion has always worked well for me for years now. Also you field your dragon lord almost the same way I do :). Did you think of giving him a great weapon instead of a halberd? That means he is still str 5 all around and strikes 1st, but if his dragon is slain he is then str 6 :) Plus with that combo you know he can handle himself on the ground just as well on the back of a dragon. I would most certainly up your mage to lv2 and add a silver wand maybe. Watch your bsb too, hit any big powerful unit he may get cut down. If a challenge is issued and you champ is dead then he is up and can't deny if he is with your dragon princes (only 1 rank). Also maybe drop the amulet of light and get those 2 spearmen.. this is a maybe. Pretty good though. Good luck to you.

highelfmage
09-07-2009, 20:09
thanks for all the advice. i am thinking of doing SM as one big unit of 14 or 10. anyone have have any suggestions?

WhiteKnight
09-07-2009, 20:23
I was thinking that you could make the white lions down to 7 guys and then make the swordmasters one unit and bulk them to 19 strong. Then put the mage in their for 3 ranks. And also add the command to the swordmasters instead. Try to find 12 points to add a champ too. Or you could make them 18 strong and have them 6 wide, 3 deep.

hoya4life3381
09-07-2009, 21:17
I would give drop the Whitelions for more DP's. You're DP unit is too small if it takes any casualities. How about this:

Same lord: 621
Same BSB: 218
Same Mage: 140

20 Spearmen + Full Command +Warbanner: 225
10 LSG: 130

7 Swordmasters *2: 210

9 DP + Champ + Standard + Standard of Balance

3 RBT: 300

Eagle: 50

Total: 2249