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Lamont Cranston
16-07-2009, 01:57
Hello,

I just finished Decent of Angels and went to the book store to buy the next one. However I got to excited and didn't look at the order so I bought Battle for the Abyss instead of Legion. I was just wondering if they directly tied in together or can I read Battle then go back and read Legion.

Thanks,

studderigdave
16-07-2009, 02:22
yeah as far as i remember there is no direct correlation between the two books.

Geep
16-07-2009, 02:41
You can quite happily skip Battle for the Abyss all together... but I guess everyone has different preferences.
The only HH books so far which seem to have an important order are the first 4 (up to 'Flight of the Eisenstein') and Descent of Angels before Fallen Angels.

Sidorio
16-07-2009, 02:43
The only one I've actually read is Flight of the Eisenstein so I hope that doesn't mean I've ruined the reading of the series.

As far as I'm aware it probably doesn't matter too much if you read one before the other.

Splata
16-07-2009, 04:26
I've read the following Heresy Books in this order:
Horus Rising
Legion
False Gods.

Legion hasn't really effected anyhting for me. The simple fact remains that you know the basics of what is going to happen. So from there on out it is all a bit of a train crash, you want to look away except you can't get yourself to.

Just try not to read anything about Legion before getting in to it. Spoilers aren't good, the book is.

djinn8
16-07-2009, 09:46
Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames, Flight of the Eisenstien and Fulgrim are all part of the same storyline and should be read in that order. Though it would be ok to read either Fulgrim or Flight of the Eisenstein as the fourth book since they tell the story of the first three from different perspectives.

The rest of the books are stand alone stories (with the exception of the two Dark Angel books)

It could also be argued that Mechanicum should be read after the first three.

boogle
16-07-2009, 11:12
The 1st 3 books in the series are all linked so should be read in their released order, Flight of the Eisenstein and Fulgrim are also part of the advancing timeline, however they can be read in either order as parts of the books take place before the venets of the 1st 3 novels and then move back into the main timeline.

Descent of Angels and Fallen Angels should be treated as a seperate part of the Heresy Series and can be read or skipped as you see fit

Legion, Battle for the Abyss and Mechanicum are all self contained, Legion happening at around the same time as the events of False Gods, and Mechanicum just after the events of Galaxy in Flames and Battle for the Abyss at around the same time, or just after (as events referenced in Mechanicum also link to Battle for the Abyss.

Tales of the Heresy are mostly pre the Fall of Horus, but give a good insight into certain chapters, and gives out some good secrets including the actual moment of the fall of one of the chapters

ashc
16-07-2009, 11:16
I never assumed there was an 'order' they should be read, except for the first 3 which I consider the Mournival trilogy, and the Fallen/Descent of Angels which is clearly another trilogy in the making. All the others can be read however you like as far as I'm concerned (and skipping the trashiest).

boogle
16-07-2009, 12:55
I never assumed there was an 'order' they should be read, except for the first 3 which I consider the Mournival trilogy, and the Fallen/Descent of Angels which is clearly another trilogy in the making. All the others can be read however you like as far as I'm concerned (and skipping the trashiest).

Eisenstein and Fulgrm do have close links to the 1st 3, the rest you are correct

Nicha11
16-07-2009, 12:57
No.

Don't read either of them, IMO they are the worst of the heresy books (Fulgrim comes a close third).

Chapter Master Leonidas
16-07-2009, 13:52
Skip Legion unless you're an Abnett or IG fan. It says Legion ont he title but they actually play a bit part.

As for order, I've been reading them in Order and everything up to Descent of Angels tied into the books before it. Descent of Angels (the worst so far, probably the worst book ever) had nothing to do with the rest (and very little to do with the heresy) and Legion is nearly a standalone as well with no real ties to other books.

ashc
16-07-2009, 13:55
Descent of Angels (the worst so far, probably the worst book ever) had nothing to do with the rest (and very little to do with the heresy)

I am so tired of hearing this old chestnut. Just because it wasn't full of space mareeeeens and bolter porn it wasn't a good book :rolleyes:

Lostanddamned
16-07-2009, 13:57
I have read them all in order, with one exception.

Battle for the Abysmal.

I read the first 50 or so pages and wanted to tear my eyes out. So I read the last 10 pages to get an idea of what went on and gave up on it, it is pure trash.

Nurglitch_PS
16-07-2009, 14:36
You can read those books in whatever order. Most of them are crap.
The exception (to order, not to crap - you just have to read them in proper order) is the Dark Angels subcycle which will probably grow to some 156 books at the current rate of story progression. Expect another tome on how Lionel Johnson searches for his toothbrush under the bath whilst Luther discovers new ways of tying shoelaces.

ashc
16-07-2009, 14:39
tying shoelaces.

Ah, but they are shoelaces OF CHAOS............

:p

Everyone knows that these HH books will be the most drawn-out, long-winded series ever gone to print because they know fools will clamour to get hold of the latest pulpy bit of rubbish with their favourite primarch in it.

x-esiv-4c
16-07-2009, 14:46
In my opinion Legion is one of the best books in the series. A lot of people don't like it because it lacks a lot of the "BOOMBOOM SPACEMAHREENZ" that is common to BL books.

Nurglitch_PS
16-07-2009, 14:50
I've just a week ago read the Tales of Heresy or whatever this small story compilation is called. Total ***** except for one story.

I thought for a moment the story towards the end would be good - the last Catholic (or at least Christian) priest discussing theology with imperial propagandist. The beginning was nice, the style not so bad... but then it turned to something that reads like a leaflet from some left-wing femi-green-eco-anarchist party. Total absolute bullcrap about history of Europe and various faiths, pure nonsensical propaganda aimed at 17yr olds who take such stuff as facts. The author realising his fantasies of cutting down some priest to size and an older priest apparently unable to argue against arguments on a spotty teen level. Revolting. But..

The very last story in this compilation - one about Kharn confronting his Primarch right after Angron was snatched by the Emperor. This is the one worthy of buying the book for. It grows a bit old and repetitive towards the end, but it really is worth reading, perhaps more so than inane drivel like Mechanicum or the Dark Angels subcycle.

Hadafix
16-07-2009, 15:31
Hey.... I really liked Fulgrim, its the darkest of all the HH I have read so far. Mechanicum isnt that bad either. Battle for the Abyss is utter crap though.

Legion isnt to bad, and takes a nice look at the philosophy of the Crusade as well. It depends what expectations you put on the books.