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noneshallpass!
29-07-2009, 12:03
I have been working slowly on redoing my undead since 2006... Things are speeding up now though.

Why making a thread? Maybe it can push the progress, and I enjoy looking at project logs myself.

Drybrush all the way plus some foundation and washes on the latest stuff. After more than 10 years I still haven't progressed beyond this, but I think I get quite ok results with these simple ways of painting:)

Here is what I have done so far:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/e.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/c.jpg

noneshallpass!
29-07-2009, 12:04
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/p1310007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/p1310010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/p1310015.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/p2080020.jpg

noneshallpass!
29-07-2009, 12:05
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/p2080024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P4010001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P4010006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P4010007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P4010013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170069.jpg

noneshallpass!
29-07-2009, 12:06
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170071.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170074.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170075.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170078.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170079.jpg

I'm getting a little tired of drybrushing skeletons...
I'm working on two necros/priests, a vampire and the grave/tomb guard.

8bitMummies
29-07-2009, 19:15
For just drybrushing and washing, your army looks great! I really like your style; Neat, but gritty at the same time. I recently started a project log to stay motivated myself and it has helped immensely.
Those old models have so much character, especially the armored skeleton guy next to the standard bearer (sorry, I'm unfamiliar with VC stuff!:D) On that note, is the man in the tall hat holding the skull an old Necromancer?
If you were looking for any constructive criticism, my only beef is the traditional green bases...it is just a matter of preference, but I think a dark brown or even gray would look even better.
Keep up the good work!

bob_the_small
29-07-2009, 21:00
Nice painting, but please, ditch the green bases!

MrMiscast
29-07-2009, 21:13
Awesome work. I love those old modelīs. Especially the bolt throwers and chariots.

Weemo
29-07-2009, 23:01
third the green bases they make your army look old, any other colour believ it your not will kae them look younger trust me

Sheena Easton
29-07-2009, 23:12
Some great old models in there, especially the Skeleton Champion with Scythe and the Skeleton Champion / Wight with Spear.

Nephilim of Sin
30-07-2009, 06:09
More, please! I love seeing the vintage models. I think all I still have from that range are the SSCs and Nagash. The army just oozes character, and I actually think the GG bases help with that. The chariots simply look fantastic, and the ol' Horsemen's Lances used with the Skellies on foot looks ace. Keep up the great work!

mrtn
30-07-2009, 09:34
Looking nice!
I tend to agree about disliking the goblin green, even though I see Nephilim's point about it adding to the old school feeling.

What rules are you using? It seems this army got pretty much gutted when they split the Undead armybook.

noneshallpass!
30-07-2009, 10:31
Thanks for the comments!

I was expecting some comments about the green bases. But hey, I'm not doing goblin green sand drybrushed with yellow at least :D
I have fooled a lot around with basing, and this has worked best for me. I just can't make the sand look good with black edges. Green goes well with the grass and a lot of gamingtables as well. I think I will try to do something else for my WE who is all new models.

The necromancer with staff and skull is Heinrich Kemmler. It's one of my favourite models. The whole old undead range is great. I do not own Nagash.. The model is dreaded by many. I might try to get my hand on it but I have some other armys waiting in line that could be more tempting to paint than a model without rules. Using him as Bone Giant would be heresy!


I would really like to see something like the old Undead back... Even though the old book had to many units with 3wounds and only one attack it is quite cool.
I'm using the models for both TK and VC. Only TK games yet. I will have skeletons instead of ghouls, but the skeletons should be good enough!

I'm working on some nice 4th ed. mummies at the moment.

Sully
30-07-2009, 10:43
Ooooh yes, that's what was missing. Oldschool = good. I still fondly remember these old mummies, tiny carrion and their riders, the zombie dragon... Do you, by any chance, have the old metal skeleton horsemen?

Malorian
30-07-2009, 14:01
Chariots? War machines? Archers?

Crazy stuff :) and the banners look great.

richy376
30-07-2009, 20:08
It is nice to see these models again. And as Malorian says, the banners!

noneshallpass!
31-07-2009, 08:01
I felt the stickerbanners from GW would give it an classic feel.
People do a lot of interesting things when painting their army's nowdays, but I wanted to do it as I would have 10 years ago. A little cartoon, but not as far as eavy'metals yellow robes, green armour, blue spear shafts etc.:)

I do not own the old metal horsemen unfortunately, but I got 18 in plastic. The metals look really great, but I think I have enough knights.
Most of my (unpainted :() army's is just 2k with few variations, but the Undead collection are pretty huge.. I'm weak when it comes to good secondhand deals.

The boyz
31-07-2009, 08:31
Its great to see some of the old school Skellies again. Especially the chariots and the Skull Chucka's.

Good solid work on your army so far Noneshallpass! Keep up the good work.

zigoR
02-08-2009, 21:30
YEAH... these old school undead ROCK! :)

very cool...

noneshallpass!
29-08-2009, 12:55
Ok. Time for a small update.

These scorpions has been performing very well :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P7170068.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P8290069.jpg


The 25 tomb/grave guard was a lot of work to do at once, but they are finished. I got ill as well. Maybe a flu I think. It delayed things. I will post them and some characters soon. Just need a nice day to go outside and spray them with varnish and the put on some grass!

Grapeshot
29-08-2009, 13:21
I like green bases :)

puppetmaster24
29-08-2009, 14:04
i like whats been done so far. keep it up.

Monsterzonk
29-08-2009, 15:57
That's some really nice old-school goodness you've got going here. I really like it! Give us more!

Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:

noneshallpass!
11-01-2011, 11:52
Ok, time for update. Been far to long. To my defence, I lived abroad and away from my mini's for at least a third of the time of absence:D

Ghouls in proper skirmish formation (:D). Even these is oop by now. I did the first 9 in 2006, so no shortcuts with washes etc. Just good old drybrush.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010051.jpg

The last bowmen:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010057.jpg

Graveguard/Tombguard. These have been to some games and a tournament. A quite heavy pile of lead all 25 of them. Problems with getting a good foto of them
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010055.jpg

noneshallpass!
11-01-2011, 11:53
3 necros/priests and a Vampire.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010053.jpg

I stated something about lack of progress in the first post. Here are a before shot on two of the necromancers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P5130011.jpg

I manage better now. Not sure if I handle the brush better than before, but I do understand the concept of building up a drybrush with a few colours better. And there is washes and proper basing that help a lot.

Damien66
11-01-2011, 18:26
Hey noneshallpass
Great painting, the green bases give your army that old school goodness. Add a little more indirect lighting to your pics so we could see your painting better (the pic with the vampire and the three necromancers is great).

Keep the thread going
Damien

feeder
11-01-2011, 18:58
Wonderful. Ghouls were better before, when they were still alive.

I've got that Vampire somewhere, and I always wanted to get my hands on the Necromancer with the flowing beard. Very cool sculpt, especially for it's time.

Hadriel Caine
11-01-2011, 19:02
Sweet oldschool undead! These really take me back. I just picked up the necromancer to the far left of the first image of post 24 at my local second hand store. Love the use of mummies as tomb guard/ grave guard.

noneshallpass!
12-01-2011, 18:28
Thanks for the support on green bases :D I will try to get some better light. Sunlight would help. Fotos before 15.00 then.

I really like the old sculpts. More cartoonish than some newer ones, but a lot of character. I got the necro to the left in some ebay deal with a lot of ods and ends I think. It was one of the first miniatures I ever saw though. A friend had it, and I think it had a career as a para-shooter. We started young and did silly things like playing battles in the street, in the garden or even in a sandbox.

Next up are Black Knights/Undead Horsemen.

von Doom
06-03-2011, 18:03
That necro to the left is one of my favorites for sure. I got him for free with Dark Omen the pc game.

Your army is awesome, I love the bases. I have been doing mine black lately, but I have a soft spot for the green.

VenomBlood
06-03-2011, 21:30
There is no school like the old school!
@noneshallpass!: It's ace!
I'm trying to do something similar with the current GW's range.
But an amount of classic models you have - I'm amazed.
Just keep it up, cool stuff! :)

The Yak
06-03-2011, 21:54
I cant really add anything new to what has already been said before but need to comment because your army is amazing! The minatures you have used are really nostalgic they take me back 15 years or so to when I had an undead army. Your right models like kemmler and the wights are classic. I love the old standard bearer you have used with the bell, what a pose! Your painting style suits the army and looks excellent, the technique you use gets the best out of the models and who wants to see clean and shiny undead anyway!!

The green bases do add to the look of old school but the old GG does look a little bright have you tried knarlock green, its slightly more muted and might work well with the look of the army imho.

Thanks for sharing this with us because it really did put a smile on my face! Those chariots how great are they? None of this tomb king and vampire count nonsence just plain and simple UNDEAD!!!

noneshallpass!
08-03-2011, 12:45
The Goblin Green do look more dark in reality than on the pictures. I'm running out of it though, so Knarlock green could be a good idea for future projects. Especially my Wood Elves, that is of the new type. So far I have used the Knarlock Green on the skin for my Lizardmen speedpainting (basecolours with black wash over). Quick, but boring! Came to a halt!

I have also bought the Goblin Green from Coat d'Arms (same as Citadel before 97-98ish), and that is even more light. The GG of Citadel has a shade of blue these days. It used to be more yellowish. If I manage to get started on restoring my Bretonnians (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P3100029.jpg), I might go for the old yellowish goodness of Cd'A :D

noneshallpass!
07-06-2011, 13:15
Ok, so time for another update! I have done some more skeletons, two units of knighs and some vampires. I think I god quite good photos this time. Some quite revealing ones as well.

Knights
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010042.jpg

Skeletons
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010043.jpg

Vlad, Isabella and bretonnian convert.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010045.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/daggerfall/P1010050.jpg

The way of painting the skin doesn't like to be photographed. The spots touched most heavily from my drybrushing really screams! It looks more smooth in person. I think I will use the formula on my Dark Elves as well.

mdiscala
07-06-2011, 17:04
Reminds me of being 15. Especially the first half of the plog.

VenomBlood
07-06-2011, 17:31
I like your knights aswell as vampiress.
But I feel a lack of iconography on shields.
Apart from this, units look cool.
Cheers!

tancrede
07-06-2011, 22:31
+1 with mdiscala : your old army reminds me my humble beginnings in the hobby, and my first WD, when I was only dreaming of fielding a complete army.
Thank you, man ! I'm feeling some nostalgia now ! ^^

And please, show us more !

Queekvondrak
08-06-2011, 05:17
I'm way too young to remember these models, but old undead models are the greatest in my opinions. How did you make the chalice on the brettonian prophetess (i think thatss what it used to be)?

noneshallpass!
12-06-2011, 22:50
It's right that it is a Bretonnian prophetess. It's a nice model. I might have to get one more for my Breronnian army. If I remember right, the chalice is made from the top of the 5th edition Grail Knight standard and the bottom end of the wand she originally held. I also trimmed the bottom of the wand to make it flat instead of round I think.


There is still a few models to go, but the end for the Undead is getting close. It feels strange.. I hope to use less than 5 years on the next project.

Comrade Wraith
12-06-2011, 23:38
Brilliant! These were the minatures which got me into Warhammer.
Nice painting, and good to see the old banners again!

Oh, and one more for the "keep the green bases" crowd ;) they're part of the nostalgia

Mr. Ultra
13-06-2011, 12:57
That's a very good time-travel thread man! Reminds me buying the first Vampire Counts book at age 14...

BlazeXI
13-06-2011, 16:01
I hate you. You have reminded me how much I miss my first army, the 4th edition Undead. Now they are like a war veteran with missing limbs. (Kidding in the first sentence;)).

Excellent painting, collection and memory value. Used to have every miniature you have in this plog apart from the Quest Wight, Bretonian Convert, Ghosts (still have the cooler older versions) and Wraiths (same as Ghosts).

horror
13-06-2011, 16:12
Love the old school undead. Love the necromancers and mummies as well as the green bases. My only complain is that you didn't go oldschool enough with the green bases for me, I would have painted em gobbo green and highlighted them yellow like they used to!! But I'm guessing that people would dislike that even more than your green bases! I'll prob do those bases on my old school chaos army when I get around to it. Great stuff! Keep it up. cool blog.

MOMUS
14-06-2011, 08:20
Nice looking undead, all the comments saying 'old-school' and 'vintage' make me feel old

noneshallpass!
14-06-2011, 12:19
I'm not sure if I feel old, but I feel that the editions are starting to pass quickly.

horror, I like your plans for that Chaos army. You might have even more oldschool cred than me. I got in to the game just when the 5th ed Realm of Chaos book was out, and this was more or less the first look I had at Warhammer. The models there have bases more or less like mine. More greyish tone on the sand though. One my favorite armybooks. Great layout and pictures.

I almost pulled the trigger on some old Ghosts on ebay, but in truth I have enough Undead :)

Dread_Kennedy
14-06-2011, 14:13
Heck yeah! That's one fine cut from the crypt. The mummy unit looks awesome, and the old school horsemen have a strange and simple appeal.

I am thinking of turning my currently WIP undead army (mostly Mantic figs) into an homage to the 4th edition undead. When I started into WHFB and read the Battles Book, I liked the undead figures for how bizarrely diverse they were... definitely had a "whatever I can raise from the dead" vibe. Use modern figures (and the Tomb Kings book) but incorporate a lot of the long lost units back in.

noneshallpass!
14-06-2011, 14:25
I think Mantic Undead would work great for that! I like those sculpts. They have some of the same feeling as the old Undead.

bravey
14-06-2011, 14:42
I love seeing old minis painted up! Love the idea!