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ivrg
11-08-2009, 18:16
New attempt on a list which i hope is pretty alround and can be considered balanced.

1 Savage Orc Big Boss
General; Frenzy; Choppa; Light Armour; Warpaint
Martog's Best Basha
Enchanted Shield
Boar Chariot

1 Black Orc Big Boss
Heavy Armour; Battle Standard
Nogg's Banner of Butchery
Boar

1 Orc Great Shaman
Magic Level 4; Big Waagh; Choppa
Power Stone
Warboss Um's Best Big Boss At
Nibbla's Itty Ring
Boar

1 Orc Shaman
Magic Level 2; Big Waagh; Choppa
Dispel Scroll

19 Savage Boyz
Frenzy; 2ndWeapon; Choppa; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss

19 Savage Boyz
Frenzy; 2ndWeapon; Choppa; Warpaint; Standard; Musician
1 Savage Orc Boss

5 Goblin Wolf Riders
Spear; Short Bow; Light Armour; Musician

5 Goblin Spider Riders
Spear; Short Bow; Shield; Musician

20 Night Goblins
Shield; Musician
3 Fanatics

1 Boar Chariot

2 Spear Chukka

12 Black Orcs
Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician
Gorks Waaagh Banner

1 Rock Lobber

1 Giant

2 Pump Wagon

Casting Pool: 8

Dispel Pool: 5

Models in Army: 106


Total Army Cost: 2248

rtunian
11-08-2009, 18:41
you should change one of your 19 savage orc blocks into a 23-28 orc shield boy block, for your bsb. as is, you will lose a dispel dice on 2 deaths, and you can bet that your bsb's unit is going to be a target.

otherwise looks good

Jind_Singh
11-08-2009, 18:47
I agree - the boyz unit needs to be at least 25 big to take wounds before they lose some of their effectivness - my only other point is you got 2 units of fast cav so you might be hurting in that direction - but really solid list
Im also big fan of the standard that adds dispell die according to your rank bonus - it's saved my bacon on any number of occasions

ivrg
11-08-2009, 18:51
Thx, but Rtunian i am not using morks dispel banner :)

rtunian
11-08-2009, 21:10
my bad....

Deglosh
12-08-2009, 19:39
wow, i was reading this and though damn that is though through. Id LOVE to witness youre magic phase. Big Waaagh! spells ftw. Althouhg the nr6 spell in litthe waaagh! is totally awesome aswell. O&G magic is totally underestimated.

Walls
12-08-2009, 22:03
Is any O&G list not balanced these days though?

rtunian
13-08-2009, 02:02
do you think this is balanced?



savage warboss - chariot, light armor, shield, ironclaw's cleava
savage big boss - chariot, light armor, shield, best basha, effigy of mork
savage big boss - chariot, light armor, enchanted shield, akrit axe, collar of zorga
blorc big boss - bsb, boar, heavy armor, mork's spirit totem

28 orc warriors - full command, shields
18 orc warriors - standard, music, extra choppa
18 orc warriors - standard, music, extra choppa
6 spider riders - music, bows
3 snotling bases

3 orc boar chariots
2 spear chuckas

2 giants

2250

ivrg
13-08-2009, 10:16
I always tell my opponents to give me the comp score for thier army before playing. In that way i know where i have them. We try to play balanced lists. In my experience the game is more fun that way, but thats just my opinion.

Yes o&g magic is good. Ofc the miscast table is painfull. But i guess thats the way ti is playing with them. You cant feel safe :)
Anyway magic is fun, although you wont always win a game with it.

nsok
14-08-2009, 01:32
well, in my humble opinion (it is very humble indeed) I think the army might be a little too random and out of control for you to consistently fight well... the two blocks of savages are a little unreliable due to frenzy, can be baited and such but do hit hard, but also, most of your blocks dont have a substantial rank bonus, which i think O&G needs, as your warriors can be outmatched by many races elite warriors, chaos, dwarves, HEs ect. tend to have more expensive and better troops that can fight and win with kills for CR and dont need static like O&G does.... and one final point, snot wagons just grind my gears, as does anything with random movement, it can never pull off that critical maneuver whenever you need it, and O&G are too random anyways as it is

stonetroll
14-08-2009, 09:04
do you think this is balanced?

savage warboss - chariot, light armor, shield, ironclaw's cleava
savage big boss - chariot, light armor, shield, best basha, effigy of mork
savage big boss - chariot, light armor, enchanted shield, akrit axe, collar of zorga
blorc big boss - bsb, boar, heavy armor, mork's spirit totem

28 orc warriors - full command, shields
18 orc warriors - standard, music, extra choppa
18 orc warriors - standard, music, extra choppa
6 spider riders - music, bows
3 snotling bases

3 orc boar chariots
2 spear chuckas

2 giants

2250

I'd be interested to see what you'd do against the plethora of Flying Large Targets with that list :). Or against anything that has a serious amount of shooting/diverters/magic.

ivrg
14-08-2009, 09:26
Ofc my savage orcs will not stand by themself. It doesnt matter if they a re 20 or 25. That is why i plan to use them with support.
Without support they are dead.

rtunian
14-08-2009, 12:55
I'd be interested to see what you'd do against the plethora of Flying Large Targets with that list :). Or against anything that has a serious amount of shooting/diverters/magic.

the question wasn't "is it a good all comers list"
the question was "is it a balanced list"

the answer is "no, it is not"

the point is to illustrate that "not all o&g lists are balanced"

Lord Hurin
14-08-2009, 13:33
Thx, but Rtunian i am not using morks dispel banner :)

And why not? It's the best banner an Orc BSB can carry. Magic is HUGE these days!

selone
14-08-2009, 13:51
GL with this list matey.