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puppetmaster24
19-08-2009, 00:43
I recently got a hold of a complete set of warhammer quest with the catacombs of terror expansion and two extra warriors (a pit fighter and a chaos warrior). and i was wondering if any off the warseer veterans had played and if it was really worth the 72 i have payed for it.

Lantern
19-08-2009, 01:03
Its one of my fave games ever, tha chance to take a single hero from your chosen race and raise him to legendary status. You'll talk about the Minotaur you killed when you should have been dead, that time you were last man standing, the cruel twist of fate that saw your opponent earn the magic items you wanted.....
I could go on, but is basically an easy to set up night of gaming. One model each, random opponents, you can lavish time and effort on your hero and remember how it all started.

puppetmaster24
19-08-2009, 01:04
is it worth coming up with a whole campain using the rules in the RPG book.

Bac5665
19-08-2009, 01:13
Warhammer quest is one of the best games ever!!! I would love to come across a full set of it! Yes, it is absolutely worth every penny you spent.

puppetmaster24
19-08-2009, 01:32
let me tell you a tale

i managed to get it when me and my mate were in GW talking about random stuff when a guy came in with the chaos warrior box, he asked one of the staff about it and he just shrugged it off. we asked him about it and he said it was given along with some other stuff, we thought no harm in seeing and we followed him to a local charity shop. when i saw it all my jaw dropped at it all, none of it was built or even had the mold lines removed, it was in near mint condition. i spent the next day wondewring if i should buy it or not.

the next day arfter that i walked in resolved to get it but it was gone, my heart skipped a beat, was it too late has it been sold. no (obviously) it had been taken to a local hobby shop for a valueing. i was told it would be back in the shop at around 1 O'clock.

i came back terrified that it would have a realistic price that would put it way out of my price range, but no it was 72 for all of it so i snaped it up in double quick time.
and then GW releases space hulk. so that was another 60 spent, so that is 130.70 spent within 4 days. THANK GOD i still live with my parents or would not be eating for weeks.

snurl
19-08-2009, 05:23
You paid a reasonable price for WHQ. Nice to find it in such nice shape too.

GW should re-release that game.

Anvilbrow
19-08-2009, 05:37
One of GW's best ever. Every summer, a group of buddies and I get together weekly to each take a new hero to new levels. We've been doing that more or less for about ten years now.

Many a night we've been deep in a dungeon (or three) only to see the sun peeking over the horizon...

It can suck you in...

The Red Scourge
19-08-2009, 07:51
...and if it was really worth the 72 i have payed for it.

If you can 72 worth of fun from it, it is. If not then you've wasted your money :)

Avian
19-08-2009, 08:04
I own Warhammer Quest with about half the extra stuff for it and it isn't awful or anything, but for about the same cost you could have gotten Descent by Fantasy Flight Games, which is a very similar - but considerably better - game.

Quest is good for a laugh, but it can be terribly dependant on luck unless you make some house rule modifications to it.

Jind_Singh
19-08-2009, 08:15
Me and my mate went mad for this from the ages of 18-20!
2 years of non-stop playing, I was the barbarian, his name was Wulfhere Hauksaklifer (means the Wolf skull splitter in norse), and we had to make a house rule for him as he had a MASSIVE collection of swords/guns, and he'd refuse to leave them behind.
So similar to the Giant ruling in Fantasy we had a 'dont roll a 1' when he need to jump around as he was so weighed down, and when he was drawing a weapon there was a random chance he might take out the wrong one! But still, loved him to bits - the game was a lot of fun!
The only downside.....after a while you get so attached to the git that you cant bear to see him die - so we started coming up with lame reasons to keep our beloved alive (oh he aint dead, he is just stunned and will come round for the next dungen!!).
So when this crept into the game we called it a day after nearly 2 years straight of playing!
So worth the $75 you put in, enjoy it while you can!!

Spoik
19-08-2009, 08:53
By all the Gods, YES, it's worth it!

Warhammer Quest is a superb game!

The glory of it is that you can play it as a beer'n'pretzels fun bash, or you can layer on as much roleplaying depth as you desire.

You'll have fun with Quest for years. Good find.

Odin
19-08-2009, 11:47
I own Warhammer Quest with about half the extra stuff for it and it isn't awful or anything, but for about the same cost you could have gotten Descent by Fantasy Flight Games, which is a very similar - but considerably better - game.

Quest is good for a laugh, but it can be terribly dependant on luck unless you make some house rule modifications to it.

I'll have to have a look at Descent.

Agree though - Quest is good for a laugh, but ultimately it's just rolling dice until you or the monsters are dead. There's very little opportunity for tactics. And as with many games of this kind, the "hook" is not the game itself, but the character progression. The missions start to become a chore that you have to get through so you can earn some money for the fun bit - equipping and training your character.

I'd be interested to hear what house rules you use. I've been writing some ideas up recently, including rules for model facing (so you have an advantage against an opponent facing away from you), fighting defensively (like the "shielding" rule in LotR), and most importantly, monsters not appearing next to you, and having a chance of attacking first even if they don't have "ambush".

Avian
19-08-2009, 13:57
It's been something like a decade since I last played it, so my memory of house rules is hazy. I know we ignored the "married" random event, for example, and when playing randomly we would normally ignore the "get more monsters on a 1 each turn" if we were already in combat to stop games taking forever.

We also came up with lots of extra items and whatnot, which eventually evolved into a quite different game, but I guess that often happens when you're young and enthusiastic. ;)

Odin
19-08-2009, 14:07
It's been something like a decade since I last played it, so my memory of house rules is hazy. I know we ignored the "married" random event, for example, and when playing randomly we would normally ignore the "get more monsters on a 1 each turn" if we were already in combat to stop games taking forever.

We also came up with lots of extra items and whatnot, which eventually evolved into a quite different game, but I guess that often happens when you're young and enthusiastic. ;)

Quite possibly. I can't remember that far back!

Arguleon-veq
19-08-2009, 14:11
Coolest GW game ever.

I picked the full set up for 4 at a car boot sale :p

The Clairvoyant
19-08-2009, 21:05
best 72 you spent
WHQ is a fantastic game. I still play it now. We have a group of four of us - myself, my friend and our wives. OUr wives are not wargamers at all, but enjoy quest - especially my wife who loved games like Baldurs Gate on the PC and on the PS2.

Then we have a second group we run, again myself and my wife, and another wargaing friend and his non-wargaming girlfriend.

Quest brings in non-gaming people and that is one of its strengths. That, and collecting various models from different armies so we can fill any entry on the monster chart. I even bought BfSP just so i could convert some more chaos dwarfs

Bregalad
19-08-2009, 21:24
It is a very nice game. Played it much when released. More fun if you play with extra characters you care about. I have Trollslayer, Wardancer and Elf Mage. There are also Witch Hunter, Bretonnian Knight and some I can remember out of my head. Used the tiles and miniatures for years in my RPG group. Ebay price is below what is usually charged.

Descent is also a decent game of course ;)

Avian
19-08-2009, 21:34
There is a Warrior Priest, Pit Fighter, Chaos Warrior (strangely enough) and Imperial Noble as well.

ashc
20-08-2009, 00:45
It's an awesome game, and wish it had been rereleased instead of Space Hulk. :)

WLBjork
20-08-2009, 07:19
Just been over to the Specialist Games website, only to find that there's no articles to point you to.

That's rather disapointing, as there were a number of mini-magazines released with extra rules and such which (a)made the game a little more RPG like and (b) added new dimensions to the game.

Several characters, including the Halfling Thief; Seaports and Naval Journies; and other bits and pieces were all added, yet sadly none of the articles appear to have survived.

Baggers
20-08-2009, 07:25
Yeah I wish that Warhammer Quest was being rereleased than Space Hulk, but it still may be. In terms of the deal, I think that is an excellent deal. There was another expansion pack called Lair of the Orc Lord.

Anvilbrow
20-08-2009, 07:47
There was also Deathblow magazine, I've got the first three (not sure how many there were in the end), extra treasure card decks (got all those) and several articles in WD back in the day when card inserts were the norm, I have the Chaos Dwarf adventure and the Clan Skryre Adventure (both initially intended to be expansion packs), the new rooms and corridors etc, all on the original card inserts.

Frogczar
20-08-2009, 21:15
I own every known expansion pack, magazine article, character pack, etc. that exists for Warhammer Quest. Needless to say, I love the game. I consider it my favorite board game of all time. If you can get anything for it for a reasonable price, you're in luck. I consider myself fortunate to have gotten most of it before the prices shot through the roof.

The real beauty of the game is that _everyone_ can be a player as the game runs itself without a GM.

Even though there are parts that are unbalanced, it is a great game. I prefer it to any other dungeon crawler (FFG Descent included).

Many a night has been spent playing the game into the morning only to have a character die a glorious or inglorious death in some random manner. Great fun!

-Frog

Wandre
20-08-2009, 22:27
Warhammer Quest is a great game. I have very fond memories of playing well into the night with my cousin. If they brought it back id buy it instantly.

Bob Hunk
21-08-2009, 14:10
Ah, Warhammer Quest. :cool: I had hours of fun with that back in the day. I got my Dwarf character all the way up to level 10 (the maximum)...now what was his name...? *scratches beard*
The "you are struck by lightning and half your gold melts" event on the wilderness table always annoyed me the most. And just how many peddlers selling those "lucky charms" were there on the roads of the Empire? We seemed to encounter one every few miles! ;)

The two-part ocean voyage rules in WD were awesome, did anyone ever use those?

Also had the 'Lair of the Orc Lord' expansion too, that came with some great little miniatures. :) I wanted 'Catacombs of Terror' but that seemed to go out of print really quickly.

I can't ever see myself using my WHQ stuff again though. Shame really. It's all in very nice condition too, I really must eBay it or something. It's just gathering dust otherwise. :cool:

puppetmaster24
21-08-2009, 14:16
if you want to swap lair of the orc lord for anything just PM stuff that you want and i'll see if i have it.

The Clairvoyant
21-08-2009, 14:39
Ah yes, the lucky charms!
Always annoying when they turn out to be fake!

I play the witch hunter and i love the uneventful day table!

I must admit, we're all kinda lazy and don't do the full roleplay experience and instead let the books and tables tell us everything.

I do have plans for converting my tomb kings stuff into Quest-enabled stuff. Part of the problem is that WHQ is 4th ed warhammer, so it means digging out my old undead armies book and then converting from there, plus changing the events table.
If anyone has already created monster/event tables for running a full tomb kings dungeon, please let me know!

ashc
21-08-2009, 14:44
If you still have the sets, WHFRP is a good use for them :)

Von Wibble
21-08-2009, 14:49
It was a good game, but I am surprised its worth so much! I liked the imperial noble myself, and the witch hunter (the WHQ equivalent of the goal hanger, just waiting for a warrior to cripple a valuable monster before applying the coup de grace out of the turn sequence!).

I too should consider e-baying mine.

snottlebocket
21-08-2009, 15:13
There is a Warrior Priest, Pit Fighter, Chaos Warrior (strangely enough) and Imperial Noble as well.

Wasn't part of playing the chaos warrior hiding that he was in fact a chaos follower?

Avian
21-08-2009, 15:22
Quite possibly, I can't really remember.

The Clairvoyant
21-08-2009, 15:25
yep, i'm pretty sure hiding your chaos-ness was part of the experience - especially when you start getting mutations!

i have rules for all of the extra characters i believe, plus the two they put in the journal - the halfling thief and the ogre.

The ogre is especially fun as at the beginning of each turn when the wizard rolls his power dice, the ogre rolls a dice as well. If the ogre player rolls a 1 or rolls the same number as the wizard, an unexpected event occurs as the the ogre makes so much noise banging around cheerfully in the dungeon! :D

Cypher
21-08-2009, 15:58
That's a very good price - IIRC it was 60 pounds when it was new, and that was thirteen years ago.

Still got my copy, in pretty good condition too, except the monsters which were my first painting experiences (and it really shows). Really should think about getting it out sometime.

Also there used to be a few websites with bucketloads of WHQ-related content - not sure how many of them still exist. Possibly my favourite home-brew was the Ex-Blood Bowl player character.

BigRob
21-08-2009, 16:25
Considering what you got you paid a fantastic price.

Alot of the old Quest stuff is gone from the Web now, sites have died or been attacked by GWs legal team. The chances of a Quest reprint are minimal (I have spoken to Jervis personally on the matter at gamesdays) but we can all dream. In alot fo ways I wish Fantasy Flight games had picked up Quest instead of the new WFRP they are bringing out.

You had the big box, the two offical expansions (orcs and undead) the third expanision which was released in WD (skaven, sadly the fourth one was going to be Chaos dwarves and got dropped). Then there were many WD card sections including the sewer and dead end plus new treasure, monster, dark secret etc cards. I was lucky enough to get a copy of the only Fanatic suppliment, Pits and Traps but it wasn't very exciting, just two new board sections. There were many official warrior packs, used to be you could find the two unreleased ones on the web too ( Dwarf Goldfinder and Elf revenant knight) as well as hundreds of semi official careers in the CJ and online.

Finally there was the 3 issues of Deathblow, most of which was regurgitated Citadel Journal but at least they made an effort (I actually brought 3 issues of the 3rd issue so i could cut out the counters and mount them on proper card.

Well done for an excellent find!

Gazak Blacktoof
21-08-2009, 16:59
when playing randomly we would normally ignore the "get more monsters on a 1 each turn" if we were already in combat to stop games taking forever.

In my experience the power dice added real tension to the game.

I like the descent campaign system as an alternative to warhammer quest, however in descent I find dark charm and traps to be far the most deadly elements of the game, much more so than the monsters.


Warhammer quest really needs some modification to prevent it getting ridiculously easy.

snottlebocket
21-08-2009, 17:11
Considering what you got you paid a fantastic price.

Alot of the old Quest stuff is gone from the Web now, sites have died or been attacked by GWs legal team. The chances of a Quest reprint are minimal (I have spoken to Jervis personally on the matter at gamesdays) but we can all dream. In alot fo ways I wish Fantasy Flight games had picked up Quest instead of the new WFRP they are bringing out.

You had the big box, the two offical expansions (orcs and undead) the third expanision which was released in WD (skaven, sadly the fourth one was going to be Chaos dwarves and got dropped). Then there were many WD card sections including the sewer and dead end plus new treasure, monster, dark secret etc cards. I was lucky enough to get a copy of the only Fanatic suppliment, Pits and Traps but it wasn't very exciting, just two new board sections. There were many official warrior packs, used to be you could find the two unreleased ones on the web too ( Dwarf Goldfinder and Elf revenant knight) as well as hundreds of semi official careers in the CJ and online.

Finally there was the 3 issues of Deathblow, most of which was regurgitated Citadel Journal but at least they made an effort (I actually brought 3 issues of the 3rd issue so i could cut out the counters and mount them on proper card.

Well done for an excellent find!


Don't forget the extra rooms and rules for the hilarious Quest / Bloodbowl mashup Dungeonbowl!

Gorbad Ironclaw
21-08-2009, 21:18
Warhammer quest really needs some modification to prevent it getting ridiculously easy.

It would also benefit from something that made the combats a little less just a straight dice rolling contest, but yeah, it's quite good fun to play with some friends. And some of the silly comboes you can pull can be quite amusing.

But as someone said, the main draw quickly becomes advancing your character and at times you would wish you could skip encounters.

Still, play it and have fun with it.

puppetmaster24
21-08-2009, 21:33
in terms of silly comboes i did notice that your chaos warrior could end up with a sword that got you more wounds on your stat line and regenerated lossed wounds back at the same time.

Glabro
21-08-2009, 21:40
Yes, though prepare to shell out $99 for the new Warhammer FRPG 3rd edition - a happy marriage of WH Quest and the RPG!

((Gee, I hope I didn't make you feel like you made a soon-to-be-redundant purchase....))

khabal
21-08-2009, 21:41
Warhammer is really cool, and you can enjoy the game even if you're not running a full campaign but the occasional game here and there. There are two great things about the game. First, the dungeons and encounters are random which means you'll never get the same adventure twice (and that holds true in my experience) Second, there is no dungeon master, so everybody who plays gets to win or lose as a group. It's a great game to play with friends.
On the subject of expansions, the rules for creating monster cards are fairly easy, so you can expand the box set very easily if you already own the Warhammer army books.

puppetmaster24
21-08-2009, 21:45
Yes, though prepare to shell out $99 for the new Warhammer FRPG 3rd edition - a happy marriage of WH Quest and the RPG!

((Gee, I hope I didn't make you feel like you made a soon-to-be-redundant purchase....))

no, i am in fact half way throught reading the role play rules for warhammer quest.

oh i'm sorry, did i just own you.

Roguebaron
21-08-2009, 21:51
Worth every penny you paid and more, I have a complete set including the expansions. There are a tonne of characters, witchhunter, slayer, preist, noble, wardancer, pitfighter, chaos warrior and knight. I loved the fact that you could buy just about any blister and add it to the game, it got me painting a bunch of stuff just for the cool factor of adding it even though I didn't play that army, and because of the game I started dark elves as an army for warhammer. It was one of the best beer and pretzel games GW made that saddy, probably won't get remade because all the origional artwork was lost when they moved their computers from their old facilities (though with todays scanners, you think they'd correct this). Enjoy the game.

doombanner
22-08-2009, 04:08
i was wondering if any off the warseer veterans had played and if it was really worth the 72 i have payed for it.

OH GOD I AM GOING TO MURDER YOU IN YOUR SLEEP AND STEAL YOUR WARHAMS.

~Doom Banner

lparigi34
22-08-2009, 04:18
DO not worry about the 72 spent. I have played mine A LOT, more than enough to justify any price. I also have like ALL possible expasions offcially sold. I am just missing some WD expansions...


It's an awesome game, and wish it had been rereleased instead of Space Hulk. :)

Disagree here. Nothing is like the Space Hulk, I just hope they did nothing that funky with the rules.

If thou want a "better" Quest, then stop wishing for it and buy Descent, as already said before, it has a simmilar feeling, a newer look and is a better game

Dai-Mongar
22-08-2009, 04:25
I have Descent, but I also like the Warhammer setting. Anyone played Descent with WH minis before?