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magnificent*
11-01-2006, 23:38
Any exact details about the kommando sprue? Thanks in advance.

NakedFisherman
11-01-2006, 23:47
They're metal. Or, actually, I think it is metal.

New Cult King
12-01-2006, 00:02
From what I've heard, the IG, Ork and Eldar releases for the Cities of Death campaign are all metal... Sorry mate :(

Warp Zero
12-01-2006, 00:10
From what I've heard, the IG, ork and Eldar releases for the Cities of Death campaign are all metal... Sorry mate :(

GW is doing specific Ork Kommando minis? :eek: Sweet jeebus .... about time! I can't wait to see 'em.

magnificent*
12-01-2006, 00:21
I would have thought orks would have had more models made for them by now since they came out in 1998. This is pure speculation but perhaps the feeling was that the new ork models that would get new people collecting the army would be BOVs and since these have not been released yet I assume the BOV sprue is to hard to make.

Griefbringer
12-01-2006, 00:40
GW is doing specific Ork Kommando minis? :eek: Sweet jeebus .... about time! I can't wait to see 'em.

Hey, there were metal Blood Axe Kommando figures released back in 1993 or 1994 already...

NakedFisherman
12-01-2006, 01:45
What is a BOV?

Red Scorpion
12-01-2006, 03:39
Big Ork Vehicle.
Was mentioned as a possibility in the White Dwarf that was published as 3rd edition came out. My first Dwarf!
Oh, and orks did get a minor update, in Armageddon.
Chris

Jon_Irenicus
12-01-2006, 10:19
Werenīt there rumours abounding of a BOV box that would allow gamers to build either the BOV itself or two bikes? (That would be a very interesting kit, imo...)
Though I believe the Blood Axe Kommandos are older than ī94... Then again I could be wrong. Anyway, they could do with better than just leaving scarboyz, kommandos and other such like choices to be made from the Space Ork box...

Wolf Lord Duregar
12-01-2006, 10:57
I would have thought orks would have had more models made for them by now since they came out in 1998. This is pure speculation but perhaps the feeling was that the new ork models that would get new people collecting the army would be BOVs and since these have not been released yet I assume the BOV sprue is to hard to make.Codex: Orks was released in the Summer of 1999 while more stuff was released with Codex: Armageddon the Summer of 2000...:skull:

widgren
12-01-2006, 11:24
that looks great.
i hope mark gibbons is doing more of the kind..

Mad Doc Grotsnik
12-01-2006, 13:14
And the Ork range was released in 1999. I remember because I was working for F.W. Cooks at the time, and started there a week before my 19th Birthday!

And YAY! Orks!

boogle
12-01-2006, 20:53
there are still Flash Gitz models to make too

Toxxys
13-01-2006, 01:40
I always loved the idea of converting flash gitz...

What they should really do is make upgrade sprues for boyz... like this:

-Gunz sprue: burna, big shoota, rokkit launcha (a nice one), ammo
-Stikkbomaz sprue: like metal ones but more new bitz
-Tankbustaz sprue: rokkit launcha(s), stikkbombz, tankbusta bombz
-Burna Boyz sprue: burna(s), stikkbombz, (and a mekboy sprue)
-Ardboyz Sprue: like metal ones but more new bitz
-Flash Gitz Sprue: Many tooled out shootaz/sluggaz and bitz to tool out more
-Mekboy Sprue: Tool pack, burna, forcefield, kustom blasta, bombz, grot(s)
-Mad Dok Sprue: Tool pack, torso with apron, syringe & bonesaw arms, grot(s)

Back to the real topic though... I really want to see what these new kommandos will look like.

Dakkagor
13-01-2006, 01:52
orks get plastics? Never, all the plastics need to go to the space marines who have hundreds of feckin' models to buy: they need all the help they can get. . . and don't forget the numerous different poses and costume changes we need for different LOTR characters. I can't wait until June and they bring out Legolas in bondage gear with Gimli on the bog, then my collection will r0x0r. :cries:

I'd love to see a whole bunch of ork plastics. A BOV kit and bikes would be the perfect place to start, but frankly I'm holding my breath.

leonmallett
13-01-2006, 12:43
orks get plastics? Never, all the plastics need to go to the space marines who have hundreds of feckin' models to buy: they need all the help they can get. . . and don't forget the numerous different poses and costume changes we need for different LOTR characters. I can't wait until June and they bring out Legolas in bondage gear with Gimli on the bog, then my collection will r0x0r. :cries:

I'd love to see a whole bunch of ork plastics. A BOV kit and bikes would be the perfect place to start, but frankly I'm holding my breath.

Whole heartedly agree, but it doesn't help that we the collective gamers keep buying the same stuff does it...

philbrad2
13-01-2006, 15:19
Werenīt there rumours abounding of a BOV box that would allow gamers to build either the BOV itself or two bikes? (That would be a very interesting kit, imo...)
Though I believe the Blood Axe Kommandos are older than ī94... Then again I could be wrong. Anyway, they could do with better than just leaving scarboyz, kommandos and other such like choices to be made from the Space Ork box...


There have been roumour since posted on here and PORTENT (RIP) that sprues ofr a 'modular Ork vehicle' have been sighted. Evidently the vehicle can be built into one of several configurations from Truk/Wartrak size to small battlewagon size. It had been mentioned there were problems with the design and it was taken away for fixing and revamping. As vehicles/bikes seem to the models most in need of update I guess we'll see more of these lines being updated than the Ork models themselves.

:chrome:

Mad Doc Grotsnik
13-01-2006, 16:22
I think my local Manager has said as much as well.....

And hey, the Orks got good plakkies last time around! Think of the Old Boyz, then look at the New Boyz! I know which I prefer! And they are easily converted, which is, after all, in the right Orky spirit!

Tulkas
13-01-2006, 19:18
I think Ork Bikes should have different bodies (the bikes themselves, not the bikers). It's hard to believe that something as ramshackle as an Ork vehicle looks exactly the same as the thing right next to it. Aren't orks very "creative" when it comes to creating their own gear, be they weapons or vehicles....

Toxxys
13-01-2006, 21:23
I think my local Manager has said as much as well.....

And hey, the Orks got good plakkies last time around! Think of the Old Boyz, then look at the New Boyz! I know which I prefer! And they are easily converted, which is, after all, in the right Orky spirit!

A lot of races got a good core range of plastics in the 3rd edition release. Some had to wait a while, but they still got it.

RampagingRavener
13-01-2006, 21:32
And they are easily converted, which is, after all, in the right Orky spirit!

Seconded. Got my first Boyz box, and I definatly enjoyed cobbling 3 Big Shootas together from 10 hacked-up shootas.

I couple of extra sprues would be nice though, Skarboyz over Ard boyz would be my suggestion, Ard's are easy enough to convert with spare plastic shoulder pads, armour plates etc, but Skars are something else.

Achilles
13-01-2006, 22:27
the basic orc sprue is very cool atm. they are one of the few boxes which make BOTH versions of the core trooper (CCW/Pistol & Shoota). other races are bummed for that (chaos space marines, nids). i agree that a single sprue for:
Hard Boys
Flash Gits
Scar Boys
Kommando's
Loota's
would have been easy enough to add. BUTTTTT: i think GW will redo the entire ork range, including da basic boys... make em less easy to use, giving u, for example, 8 bodies per sprue, 4 x CCW/pistol and 4 x shoota

my guess

charlie_c67
13-01-2006, 23:41
orks get plastics? Never, all the plastics need to go to the space marines who have hundreds of feckin' models to buy: they need all the help they can get. . . and don't forget the numerous different poses and costume changes we need for different LOTR characters. I can't wait until June and they bring out Legolas in bondage gear with Gimli on the bog, then my collection will r0x0r. :cries:

I'd love to see a whole bunch of ork plastics. A BOV kit and bikes would be the perfect place to start, but frankly I'm holding my breath.

So few plastics the orks have.....
Ork Stormboyz
Ork 'Ard Boyz
Ork Boyz
Ork Stikk Bommerz
Ork Speed Freaks Mob
Ork Warbike
Ork WarTrukk
Ork Warbuggy
Ork Wartrak
Ork Wartrak Scorcher

Gorblitz
14-01-2006, 19:48
So few plastics the orks have.....
Ork Stormboyz
Actually, plastic and metal, and really just reg boyz plastics w/ metal.

Ork 'Ard Boyz
Again, reg boyz plastics plus metal bitz.

Ork Boyz
The only Ork plastic set made since v3's launch, IIRC.

Ork Stikk Bommerz
Again, boyz plus metal bitz. Are they even in production still?

Ork Speed Freaks Mob
Redundant, you cover the separate plastics elsewhere....

Ork Warbike
Nice, although the rider is now horribly out-dated (I believe this is actually from late 2nd ed. era, right before Gorkamorka)

Ork WarTrukk
Gorkamorka kit, and possibly the worst vehicle kit GW's ever done. Certainly the fugliest plastic kit, at least.

Ork Warbuggy
Like the Warbike, iirc, this is a late 2nd ed. era kit. Nice, but again, the crew are now outdated.

Ork Wartrak
Decent, but (again) quite old. Can't recall if this is 2nd ed. or Gorkamorka.

Ork Wartrak Scorcher
Ditto, and again this is simply another kit w/ metal bits.

I'd certainly say the Orks could've used more than one real new plastics kit (the basic boyz sprues) in the past seven years! In that time-span alone Marines have gone through 2 tactical sets, gotten new plastics for all their vehicles save Vindy and bikes, new Termies and Scouts, and approx 17 codeci and armylists.

Dakkagor
14-01-2006, 19:59
My point stands. Just wondering charlie_c67, but what do you collect? It wouldn't happen to be one where its possible to not touch a metal model once if you don't want to, is it?

The old ork plastic vehicles are undersized on all respects and need an update ASAP, so we'll likely see it 2012. And the marine players will still whine if they don't get a plastic drop pod first.


Originally posted by Gorblitz:
The only Ork plastic set made since v3's launch, IIRC.

You remember correctly, unless you count those 4 in a box orks you can get now. (dunno whats going on there. . .:confused: )
Every other ork realease has been metal (nice metals, like Gazzi, the nobz ect) but we still mainly use gorkamorka stuff for our model range. Can you imagine the imperial guard using necromunda models for their armies because the only alternatives are second ed models? The wartrakk and the trukk are gorkamorka, and the buggies and bikes are 2nd ed, for petes sake.

Wolf Lord Duregar
14-01-2006, 20:10
The Warbikes and Warbuggy arenīt even "late 2nd Ed.", the Warbike was released in Uk White Dwarf 192 (or so), thatīs almost three years before the 3rd Ed. was released (34 months).
And the Wartrakk is also from GorkaMorka...

The only really good plastics we (Orks:D ) have is the Boyz-sprue. Itīs used, as mentioned above, with metal bitz to make other Mobs. The vehicles are totally crap. Avtually, I donīt think thereīs a doubt the Orks have got the least ammount of attention, model wise, of all the races since the release of 3rd Ed..? Bar perhaps Dark Panzees...:skull:

Tom
14-01-2006, 20:39
That said, all the models they've had in 3rd Ed have been stonking...

Goblit Skullhelm
14-01-2006, 20:56
Don't forgot, Orks might get some love from the new fantasy O&G book. That's rumoured to be not too far off, and there'll be some good conversion opportunities there, especially if they redo the orc plastics.

Wolf Lord Duregar
14-01-2006, 22:30
Don't forgot, Orks might get some love from the new fantasy O&G book. That's rumoured to be not too far off, and there'll be some good conversion opportunities there, especially if they redo the orc plastics.Probably, but that doesnīt mean they should neglect the Ork 40k range, does it..?:skull:

Jon_Irenicus
14-01-2006, 23:54
@ philbrad: Yep, it was in dear old PORTENT (may it always be remembered...) that I first heard of the Modular Ork Vehicle (now affectionately called BOV).

I would like to see a big box of grots. Lots of cannon fodder! And better bikes, yes. They have so many possibilities of going crazy with the orks... and they donīt give players a chance other than a plastic box.
Oh the humanity... Oh well. At least the base troops are better than the catachans :)

TheOTHERmaninblack
15-01-2006, 03:50
Waddaya wanna bet that if the fantasy orcs get new plastics they'll be those lovely one piece leg-torso sets that everybody else is getting these days? Delightful to rank up, zogall to convert.

Gorblitz
15-01-2006, 04:25
Can you imagine the imperial guard using necromunda models for their armies because the only alternatives are second ed models?

Better yet, can you imagine Marine players being content with the Space Hulk plastic Termies while Orks got a spiff set of Mega-armour plastics?

Or 6+ Clan books and lists while Marines had a single book to cover even the big four chapters?

Or Goff or Bad Moon upgrade sprues whilst Marines had a single plastics set w/ no decals and one-piece devs and metal bits for making assault squads and scouts?

In terms of plastics, I really think we Orks compare only to the Eldar, who I think have only gotten the Guardians and the Wave Serpent in the same time-span. Their jetbikes are v2, and I think the Vyper and Falcon are either (late) v2 or early v3.

The Dark eldar you can't count as they were actually invented in that time-span, ditto with the Tau, although they're already going through an overhaul of some extent (haven't followed, so I don't know if things like the Vespids are new plastics), but they still have nice and still recent Tau, Kroot, battlesuits, and several vehicles, and soon a second codex in the same time-span.

The Tyranids have gone through two complete army overhauls (both metal and plastics), including books.

I can't remember when the Catachans came out, but IG have had the Cadians, the heavy weap teams (both Cadian and Catachan), new tank accessory sprue, and the Sentinel in this time frame. Also two codexes.

I believe the Berserkers were already out, so that leaves the CSM plastics, the CSM accessory sprue for the new SM tank plastics (and maybe the original CSM vehicle accessory sprues, but I think those came out during 2nd ed., can't recall for sure), and the Defiler as the new plastics for Chaos. Plus two different codexes.

Necrons really don't count as well, as they went from a small limited force to a full army with Warrior, Destroyer, and Monolith plastics.

Sad how far the Orks appear to have fallen minis-wise to the GW Studio. :(

the_yuk
15-01-2006, 08:07
Id also love to see grots as a plastic set, seeing grots are meant to be so common in the fluff but hardly any models. Hopefully the bov rumours turn out as true.

charlie_c67
15-01-2006, 12:28
I'd certainly say the Orks could've used more than one real new plastics kit (the basic boyz sprues) in the past seven years! In that time-span alone Marines have gone through 2 tactical sets, gotten new plastics for all their vehicles save Vindy and bikes, new Termies and Scouts, and approx 17 codeci and armylists.

Still they all include plastic sprues whether with metal bits or not. Dakagor was saying the orks have/will have no plastics which is just not true. And incidently I have two 40k armies and neither is all plastic. In fact my first, Harliquins, is all metal. Therefore I don't think anyone has more reason to decry the lack of plastics than a harlie player. Whilst there's no denying some kits need to be redone or converted back to plastic (grots) at least you have them! As for the two tactical sets, one was merely a recutting of the older sprue, hardly deserving the title of a new sprue.

Captain Marius
15-01-2006, 14:01
The reason that Orks and Eldar appear to have been neglected is because they require a massive overhaul both in terms of models and background. As 'core' races of 40K, they have a history going back almost twenty years or so, but it does not necessarily fit in with where 40K is today. As such both races, which are as integral to the 40K universe as the Imperium and Chaos, have to developed to the level where they can be seen as a truly viable alternative to the other races. It's taken ages to come about because GW have other, equally viable projects to complete, but Orks and Eldar have not been neglected and now we are beginning to see the fruits of their long-term development (the rumoured Eldar codex this year and the Ork concepts appearing all over the place).

For the Orks, I would like to see:


Troops. A retooled Boyz sprue with more random gubbinz on it (as with the marine tactical kit). Still allows either slugga boyz or shoota boyz, but perhaps stikkbombas too (can't be too hard to plonk a load of stikkbombz on the sprue). Definitely include one of each special weapon option. Maybe even the odd tankbusta bomb. Kommandoz are easy to convert from the basic plastic kit as well.



Nobz sprue, with maybe Nobz per sprue and as customisable as you can get. Perhaps 4 or 6 Nobz per box? Or, one Nob on the sprue and stick em in the boyz box (though this would make constructing a Nobz Mob difficult).



Upgrade sprues. This may be difficult as it could cause shelf space conflicts, but plastic upgrade sprues for Stormboyz (Rokkit packs and gibbinz), Ard Boyz (loads of armour) and Skar Boyz (Bigger torsos, meaner faces etc) would be brilliant. Maybe boxes of 12 boyz to make up for the extra sprues.



Plastic grots. A boxed set might be a bit over the top, as grots could very well get away with being single-piece miniatures (separate heads maybe). I think they should stick em on sprues across the range, like rippers and scarabs, that way you'll get a nice selection of them and easily build up units, or be able to stick them on bases and vehicles.



Meks and Doks. Ideally there'd be a nifty little sprue for these bad boyz, but I'd settle for three or four new metals for each, with a variety of snazzy equipment.



Warboss. Might as well make an enormous Warboss sprue with everything including the kitchen sink on it.



Mega-armour. This one's tricky as mega-armour is very specialist. Ghazghkull is still good enough as a starting point for a warboss, but the Nobz could do with a bit more variety. A plastic mega-armour sprue (like the Tyranid Warrior sprue) would be amazing, but rather far-fetched I think.



Vehicles. The BOV is different to the multi-purpose kit I'm sure. The rumours have stretched from being able to make different vehicles from one kit, to being able to combine two kits to make bigger vehicles. I'd imagine that they'll have a selection of sprues. A chassis sprue which will ideally be full of wheels, tracks and basic frames that can be assembled in a variety of ways. A twin-linked weapons sprue allowing all manner of wartraks, buggies and maybe gunwagons to be armed. A trukk sprue with a flatbed would be good. And then a nice gubbinz sprue filled with all sorts of vehicle upgrades, glyph plates and random orky goodness. Concievably you might be able to combine several of the sprues to create a battlewagon. I would guess that the BOV is going to be a stompa kit, as indicated by the concept art, and because it would be eminently cool. Finally, the bikes just need re-doing as a new bike sprue with a bit of variation for good measure.


All this stuff would be cool I think, but considering that the armylist itself will be in for a massive overhaul, there is all sorts of room for variation in the model range. I think it's going to be worth the wait in the end, now that the plastics are finally advanced enough to make a quality ork range.

Wolf Lord Duregar
15-01-2006, 14:13
but Orks and Eldar have not been neglected and now we are beginning to see the fruits of their long-term developmentYes and no respectively...:rolleyes:

Yes, they have been neglected, how can you say otherwise..?!:wtf: :confused:

And no, weīre hardly "beginning to see the fruits of their long-term development", sorry... Perhaps soon, but itīs still a pretty long wait for Orks... And in the meantime, the Beakies will get another Codex (atleast) plus even more plastics...

charlie_c67
15-01-2006, 14:25
In the meanwhile we will see the fruits of the new Eldar list....before the next SM list too.
Just hope they include Harlies in there.

Captain Marius
15-01-2006, 14:29
I wouldn't say they've been neglected. The release cycle necessitates a focus on one army for a few months, with occasional material on other races. Neglected implies that they have been absolutely ignored, but this is not the case; both the Orks and the Eldar have been under constant development since before 4th Edition. The result of this long process will hopefully be a well defined identity (at last) for each race and a good range of models.

I was referring to the recent concept art for the Orks; that stage of development indicates that work is actively being done on them, which will sooner or later result in their general release. Until then, I'm looking forward with some excitement, as my orks are always ready for an influx of new stuff :)

sanctusmortis
15-01-2006, 16:18
Brim has already said straight out Harlies are NOT in the Eldar codex.

I get the feeling the BOV kit is the Stompa - and judging by the concept art, Battlewagons can be made from the kit as well. Possibly a Wartrak could be scrapped together from the scraps.

I'd like to see it done in a way it will never be done, as it is seriously unfriendly to new players.

*A Gunz box, with enough parts to allow for twin-linked ones of each weapon, preferably twice. Basically, a box of Rokkits, Shootas, Big Shootas and Skorchas.
*A Trakked box, with different sized sets of tracks, small engine blocks and some chassis parts (ok, sheets of metal and pipe-like pieces) to allow for wartraks and tracked bikes.
*A Wheelies box, with parts for trukks, loads of wheel sizes, big engine blocks and loads of separate chassis parts (see above, with these being the bigger panels).

Using a combination of the above, you should be able to build truly unique vehicles for your Boyz, of any shape and size. By combining between them all, you could build anything from a simple bike all the way up to the Stompa.

Of course they'll never do this. It'd be overcomplex for beginners, for one.

I would say that the reason that the orks and eldar need such a large scale overhaul would be due to silly decisions. The orks should just have been built upon in 3rd ed, but instead had an overhaul that pointed them in a direction many didn't like. A lot of the fun was lost (artillery and shokk attak gunz for a start), and nobody really liked the whole fungoid thing. Eldar lost a lot of detail and seemed quite restricted in their use, and both got highly overshadowed by GW'S bringing in of new and more interesting armies. I know a lot of people who used to love using either army who went off and collected a new army out of sheer dislike of the army books put before them, especially ork players. New players were drawn to whatever was new or marines, and so they've dwindled from a bad change and neglect ever since. Although I've never played orks, they're the only army I have a soft spot for that I haven't. Even I winced at the last book...

Brimstone
15-01-2006, 16:20
Brim has already said straight out Harlies are NOT in the Eldar codex.

I did?, don't remember that, if I did I may have been a bit hasty. :angel:

sanctusmortis
15-01-2006, 16:24
Ah...

Yeah, ages ago you had said we would not be seeing more than the craftworld eldar in their book, and certainly not harlies and dark eldar.

From what you've just said, I may end up buying the Eldar book after all...

NakedFisherman
15-01-2006, 17:18
I did?, don't remember that, if I did I may have been a bit hasty. :angel:

Why must you torment me with new armies...?

charlie_c67
15-01-2006, 17:27
Ah...

Yeah, ages ago you had said we would not be seeing more than the craftworld eldar in their book, and certainly not harlies and dark eldar.

From what you've just said, I may end up buying the Eldar book after all...

Ah, more likely Brim quashed the silly rumour that there'd be one eldar book for DE, CWE and all other Eldar flavours. So that, coupled to to Brim's lil comment, has raised my hopes a notch.

Brimstone
15-01-2006, 18:03
This is really the wrong thread to discuss it so I'll make one final comment before we cease and get back on topic.

The Eldar codex is not yet complete and any confirmation on it's contents or rules are pure speculation so don't expect any definative comments from me (or anybody else for some time).

The Judge
15-01-2006, 18:44
Well at least they're getting a lot of new models that are confirmed - what have the Orks got? ONE dude with a flamer and a concept sketch for the Stompa (looking good BTW).

Does anyone know if the Orks are getting more than ONE new model?

sanctusmortis
15-01-2006, 20:02
The current stuff mainly covers the CF2 releases. There'll be more details this time next year I imagine, but until then...

Harky
15-01-2006, 20:19
Hopefully they will come sometime around the release of fantasy orks, that way you could easily mix the two sets together to get that really ragged feel of orks. Heard something about kommandos myself, probably be made metal and I doubt they'll redoo both the Skarboyz and Ard'boyz, one of them they will probably leave for conversions, like the IG Hardened Veterans.

Brimstone
15-01-2006, 20:31
Does anyone know if the Orks are getting more than ONE new model?

For Cityfight II yes indeed they are getting a Kommando squad and we have unconfirmed reports about a big mek.

For their codex expect almost the entire range to be revamped.

Achilles
15-01-2006, 20:34
ehmmmm.... are they making kommando's now that will be re-newed when the codex comes around, brim? :D

still cool to get anything for orks though

Brimstone
15-01-2006, 20:49
ehmmmm.... are they making kommando's now that will be re-newed when the codex comes around, brim? :D

I'm not sure what you mean but new Kommandos will be released for CFII using the current rules.

The will not be redone for a second time with the Ork codex.

Achilles
15-01-2006, 20:56
I'm not sure what you mean but new Kommandos will be released for CFII using the current rules.

The will not be redone for a second time with the Ork codex.

a ok... that was my point, although i wasnt being serious brim.
and r u sure? maybe the plastics for 4th ed orks will be more versitile?

sanctusmortis
15-01-2006, 21:04
I imagine they'll just make the models work with the new rules.

CommanderAstelan
15-01-2006, 21:41
From what I've heard, the IG, Ork and Eldar releases for the Cities of Death campaign are all metal... Sorry mate :(

thats not what i have heard and remember the new guard are having a battleforce and workshop does not do that with metal models.

Wolf Lord Duregar
15-01-2006, 21:57
Itīs not a plastic Battle Force coming for those Tsarian/Russian/whatever -dudes. Sorry...

my_name_is_tudor
16-01-2006, 08:37
sorry if I have missed anything, I've been out of the loop for the last week, but are there any mentions of any other new ork plastic infantry sprues? All these Mark Gibbons sketches and illustrations we are seeing have the orks in them looking a lot like the 2nd ed ones, but moderned up a bit, and I am quite warming to the idea of this sort of a style rather than the current brutish look.

Gorblitz
17-01-2006, 00:41
What I liked about those concepts is that it looks like GW is thinking of dropping the magilla gorilla poses for Orks, and possibly that Orks will get sleeves. I'm sorry, but just like deposed Iraqi officers, the Orks just don't look good in wife-beaters! :p

But seriously, lots of Orky character in those sketches!

5deadly
17-01-2006, 01:27
The commandos have a lot of character too much to be plastic. Crossbows with dynamite, lots of grots carrying dynamite. They almost look like Ork “lastchancers” very nice stuff.
I think it's time for a ork army. That stompa concept and all the other stuff I've seen...if they keep this look and get all the plastic upgrades for different kinds of Boyz I'm in. always wanted to do a ork army.