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phoenixcrh
01-09-2009, 19:58
General.
Hero. (Thalui)
Master, soulrender, armour of darkness = 120. (goes with warriors)

Core Units.
*19 dark elf warriors, lordling, standard bearer = 126. (5*4)

*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, musician = 117.

Special Units.
*5 cold one knights = 135.

= 498.

Models 30.
PD 2, DD 2.
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General.
Hero. (Thalui)
Master, soulrender, armour of darkness, repeater crossbow = 130. (goes with warriors)

Core Units.
*19 dark elf warriors, lordling, standard bearer, banner of cold blood = 141. (5*4)

2*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *2 musicians = 234.

Special Units.
*20 black guard, standard bearer, standard of hag graef = 309. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, standard bearer, standard of slaughter = 186.

= 1000.

Models 55.
PD 2, DD 2.
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General.
Hero. (Thalui)
Master, soulrender, armour of darkness = 120. (goes with warriors)

Core Units.
*24 dark elf warriors, lordling, standard bearer, banner of cold blood = 171. (5*5)

2*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *2 musicians = 234.

2*5 harpies = 110.

Special Units.
*20 black guard, tower master, standard bearer, crimson death, standard of hag graef = 348. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, dread knight, standard bearer, ring of hotek, standard of slaughter = 227.

*20 executioners, draich-master, standard bearer, warbanner = 289. (5*4)

= 1499.

Models 90.
PD 2, DD 2 + ring of hotek.
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General.
Hero. (Thalui)
Master, soulrender, armour of darkness = 120. (goes with warriors)

Core Units.
*24 dark elf warriors, full command, banner of cold blood = 174. (5*5)

2*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *2 musicians = 234.

2*5 harpies = 110.

(Arhain)
Assassin, extra hand weapon, rune of khaine, manbane = 146. (goes with executioners)

Special Units.
*20 black guard, tower master, standard bearer, crimson death, standard of hag graef = 348. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, dread knight, standard bearer, ring of hotek, standard of slaughter = 227.

*20 executioners, draich-master, standard bearer, warbanner = 289. (5*4)

Rare Units.
*2 war hydras = 350.

= 1998.

Models 91 + 2 monsters.
PD 2, DD 2 + ring of hotek.
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General.
Hero. (Thalui)
Master, soulrender, armour of darkness = 120. (goes with warriors)

Hero. (Cynath)
Sorceress, *2 dispel scrolls = 150.

Core Units.
*24 dark elf warriors, lordling, standard bearer, banner of cold blood = 171. (5*5)

3*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *3 musicians = 351.

2*5 harpies = 110.

(Arhain)
Assassin, extra hand weapon, rune of khaine, manbane = 146. (goes with executioners)

Special Units.
*20 black guard, tower master, standard bearer, crimson death, standard of hag graef = 348. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, dread knight, standard bearer, ring of hotek, standard of slaughter = 227.

*20 executioners, standard bearer, warbanner = 277. (5*4)

Rare Units.
*2 war hydras = 350.

= 2250.

Models 97 + 2 monsters.
PD 3, DD 3 + 2 dispel scrolls + ring of hotek.

Replace 2 dispel scrolls and ring of hotek with sorceress pearl of infinite blackness, gem of nightmares and master BSB.
Replace Cynath with *8 shades, extra hand weapons and a draich-master.

Darchangel
02-09-2009, 04:34
I can't count the number of things you're ignoring just to take so many shades with great weapons. They're costing you a fortune and won't get a good return on your investment--try and remember that tables include a limited amount of terrain--that terrain is where your shades hide, and if they get the charge, they will often do a limited amount of damage. They get hit back and it hurts--they're done. Honestly, if you want shades so much (not only should your army be from Clar Karond, but also) you should take one unit (because there will be 1-2 pieces of terrain to deploy in, and between those two, there is probably only one that will be effective for them). Don't only take one, but make that one GOOD. Take an assassin in it--it makes my little unit of 6 fantastic. They have neutralized blood knights, cold one riders, a treeman, and tore through a Tzeentch daemon army on their own (kill count was 23 horrors, 1 herald and 6 flamers). More of them does not make them better, it makes them worse because it draws your opponents attention to them.

Don't get me wrong, they are cool, and mine certainly do take great weapons, but in those games where they dealt with that stuff, they usually died in short order, and the gap they left created a place for the rest of my army to eviscerate them from.

phoenixcrh
02-09-2009, 16:31
General.
Lord. (Urithair)
Dreadlord, executioners axe, blood armour, sea dragon cloak = 241. (goes with black guard)

Core Units.
*25 dark elf warriors, full command, banner of cold blood = 180. (5*5)

2*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *2 musicians = 234.

2*5 harpies = 110.

Special Units.
*19 black guard, standard bearer, standard of hag graef = 296. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, dread knight, standard bearer, ring of hotek, standard of slaughter = 227.

*20 executioners, standard bearer, warbanner = 277. (5*4)

*5 shades, extra hand weapons = 85.

Rare Units.
*2 war hydras = 350.

= 2000.
Models 95 + 2 monsters.
PD 2, DD 2 + ring of hotek.
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General.
Lord. (Urithair)
Dreadlord, executioners axe, blood armour, sea dragon cloak = 241. (goes with black guard)

Hero. (Cynath)
Sorceress, *2 dispel scrolls = 150.

Core Units.
*25 dark elf warriors, full command, banner of cold blood = 180. (5*5)

2*5 dark riders, repeater crossbows, *2 musicians = 234.

2*5 harpies = 110.

Special Units.
*19 black guard, tower master, standard bearer, standard of hag graef = 310. (5*4)

*5 cold one knights, dread knight, standard bearer, ring of hotek, standard of slaughter = 227.

*20 executioners, standard bearer, warbanner = 277. (5*4)

*10 shades, extra hand weapons = 170.

Rare Units.
*2 war hydras = 350.

= 2249.
Models 101 + 2 monsters.
PD 3, DD 3 + 2 dispel scrolls + ring of hotek.

Replace 2 dispel scrolls and ring of hotek with sorceress pearl of infinite blackness, gem of nightmares and dread knights death piercer.
Replace Cynath with Arhain.

phoenixcrh
19-01-2010, 16:19
Anymore thoughts?

phoenixcrh
14-04-2010, 15:29
bump bump bump

vorthain
14-04-2010, 20:47
Two war hydras can be viewed by some as a little cheesy; reapers and ogres are always there too. Also, the tiny unit of knights with such expensive kit is a huge liability. With only 5, I might consider going vanilla and/or without the items.