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Eternus
02-09-2009, 12:03
Hello to all of the ladies on Warseer - I know you are out there! I was wondering if anyone would like to share how they got into the hobby, as I think that in some cases it may be a different route to that of us gents. Were any of you enticed into the hobby by a partner? If so, how on earth did they manage it? Were you reluctant at first, or was it right up your street?

I ask these questions because I have tried for a long long time now to get my better half to have a go, and have had no success - what is the secret from the girls perspective?

Gav2k
02-09-2009, 13:12
I'd imagine it's the same for dudes, dude. If they don't find it interesting then what're the chances of them suddenly liking it?

My girlfriend has put up with my love for the hobby for a while. I got her round to my mate's house when we were playing 40k, and I let her roll my dice for me. She said she didnt not like it... SO, tonight when she comes round to my place we're gonna have a small game of fantasy (probably a 250/300pt game) to see if she enjoys it. Fluff-wise she doesnt seem interested at all, and she was creeped out by my lil BfSP Night Goblins sitting on my windowledge...
I haven't showed her the range of models mind you, but I'm just gonna concentrate on finding out if she likes playing or not first.

A good idea might be to let her pick a model to paint (which I may do - just go "Any one of these guys. You pick 'em you paint 'em...). At least if she doesnt like playing she might join you in painting?

Korhil-WLC
02-09-2009, 13:20
Trying to pick up?

Tokugawa100
02-09-2009, 13:26
Trying to pick up?

That was my first thought:D

No offense:cool:

Anywho.
My girlfriend took along time to get into it, I think patience is the key and not to be forceful.
Like making her come to your games.
Buying a model she chooses can be risky.
My girl wanted a Keeper of Secrets to paint.
1st attempt: painted badly, but to be expected. Put her off the hobby for a year though.
2nd attempt: Got out the model, tried again after reading about painting techniques and did a pretty kick ass job.
3rd attempt: played a game got bored.

It was a fun ride but she got there.:cries:

Arguleon-veq
02-09-2009, 13:40
As has been said, you are either into it or not. If she isnt into fantasy stuff already, she will never get into it. If she is but just doesnt like the idea of mini gaming, she will probably never get into it.

Why would you want your girl to be into YOUR hobby anyway? Man, I couldnt think of anything worse than my girl being into all the things I'm into. Have your own seperate interests, makes things much easier. Warhammer is for spending time with your mates [guys or girls], you do NOT want your other half intruding on your time with your friends.

Eternus
02-09-2009, 13:41
Trying to pick up?


That was my first thought:D

No offense:cool:

No offence taken. I was suprised that the first reply didn't ask that - married 7 years thanks.

I have a very understanding wife, and I did get her to paint a model once, but that was a while ago - she tolerates my hobby, and is accomodating when it comes to how much stuff I have in the house. I even joined my gaming club though a guy she works with.

I just wish we could share the hobby. I'd be happy if I could get her to try one game and if she didn't like it then fair enough, but I can't even manage that. I thought something like Blood Bowl might be a more suitable introduction than 40K or Fantasy, but no cigar.

I thought "Hey, why not ask around and see what worked for other people?"

Arguleon-veq, I agree with your comment, but at the moment enjoying my hobby means spending time away from my other half - and the more I enjoy my hobby, the more time I spend away from her - I just wish that I didn't have to choose between the two. The odd game with the wife would enable me to spend time with her and enjoy the hobby.

Also, it's probably the only thing I might be better than her at.

Tokugawa100
02-09-2009, 13:42
I just think its fun.
She never wins but its cute to watch her try.
She came close once and I was pleasantly surprised.
It also gives us another thing to do together, which is a good thing in my books.

Da_Greeniest
02-09-2009, 13:46
A past girlfriend I had was hooked on it the moment I showed her the pages of an army book. We went to a Games Workshop (so I could prove to her that the employees do purposely bother you as part of company policy or whatever) and she ended up looking at the High Elves book. She loved the way they looked and when she began reading it after she bought it, she loved the fluff behind it too.

And as it goes with alot of other girls who play the game, the majority say that are attracted to the painting aspect and the story of it all, much less than the gaming aspect of it.

So there you have it.

Korhil-WLC
02-09-2009, 13:48
No offence taken. I was suprised that the first reply didn't ask that - married 7 years thanks.

I have a very understanding wife, and I did get her to paint a model once, but that was a while ago - she tolerates my hobby, and is accomodating when it comes to how much stuff I have in the house. I even joined my gaming club though a guy she works with.

I just wish we could share the hobby. I'd be happy if I could get her to try one game and if she didn't like it then fair enough, but I can't even manage that. I thought something like Blood Bowl might be a more suitably intrduction than 40K or Fantasy, but no cigar.

I thought "Hey, why not ask around and see what worked for other people?"


Arguleon-veq, I agree with your comment, but at the moment enjoying my hobby means spending time away from my other half - and the more I enjoy my hobby, the more time I spend away from her - I just with that I didn't have to choose between the two. The odd game with the wife would enable me to spend time with her and enjoy the hobby.

Also, it's probably the only thing I might be better than her at.

I have given up to be honest, usually if they are interested they will start to ask questions.

Jedi152
02-09-2009, 13:52
I suspect the majority get into it through partners.

And the urban legend that girls always tend to play wood elves or sisters of battle is complete and total fact.

Troah
02-09-2009, 13:58
I suspect the majority get into it through partners.

And the urban legend that girls always tend to play wood elves or sisters of battle is complete and total fact.

Mine plays Tomb Kings, my friends play Empire, and another female friend we have plays High Elves and Chaos Warriors.

TAOC
02-09-2009, 13:58
well this thread is creepy

Eternus
02-09-2009, 14:03
"I suspect the majority get into it through partners."


This is what I thought, so what's the secret?

My wife has almost no interest in fantasy or sci-fi of any description, so I think it's a lost cause. Luckily we have always been close and have other things in common.

Jedi152
02-09-2009, 14:18
Mine plays Tomb Kings, my friends play Empire, and another female friend we have plays High Elves and Chaos Warriors.

It was a joke. some play Dark Eldar! :D

Kidding.

My wife was teetering on the brink after an hour long chat with Graham McNeill, but she's dropped the idea again...

Eternus
02-09-2009, 14:23
It was a joke. some play Dark Eldar! :D

Kidding.

My wife was teetering on the brink after an hour long chat with Graham McNeill, but she's dropped the idea again...

My wife has offered to take me to Warhammer World on my Birthday before, so maybe that could be the opening, showing her around the gallery and the gaming hall.

kyinpie
02-09-2009, 14:26
my wife hates warhammer in all its forms! i have tryed, buit it will never happen. i got my sister into 40k years ago, she played tyranids. and recently got her and her partner into fantasy. shes playing lizardmen and hes playing deamons (DAMN)

Sergeant Uriel Ventris
02-09-2009, 14:28
My wife has offered to take me to Warhammer World on my Birthday before, so maybe that could be the opening, showing her around the gallery and the gaming hall.

I AM SO JEALOUS OF EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN ENGLAND!!

*ahem*

I tried introducing my then girlfriend (now wife) to Warhammer Fantasy by opening up the BRB to the army section and asking her which ones she liked the looks of or would want to paint. She picked out Lizardmen, but that's pretty much as far as we've gotten... Unless your wife is already into fantasy stuff, or already into painting, or really likes miniature games, it'll be quite a hard sell. I'm just grateful that my wife tolerates all the money I spend on my hobby.

rtunian
02-09-2009, 14:30
imo you should just accept that there is a hobby of yours that she has no interest in. it sounds like you've been trying for awhile, so you should probably drop it. continuing to try could breed some serious resentment.

also, there is something to be said for "separation", by which i mean time spent away from each other (not divorce, or splitting up, just a few hours/days here and there).

Eternus
02-09-2009, 14:31
I've often wondered whether girl gamers are a myth, but then threads like this advise otherwise, plus, there's a pic of one in the latest White Dwarf in the Doubles Tournament article - though I've yet to meet a female tabletop wargamer in the flesh.

Jedi152
02-09-2009, 14:39
My wife has offered to take me to Warhammer World on my Birthday before, so maybe that could be the opening, showing her around the gallery and the gaming hall.
Go for it! My wife likes a trip to Warhammer World, even though she's not into the hobby.

Whitehorn
02-09-2009, 14:40
If your girlfriend is genuine, she likes you for who you are. Therefore she's likely to show some interest in what you do. My girlfriend has slowly become involved, first by helping me paint, then buying her own models (select models that look nice) to paint and now she's begun playing Magic: the Gathering and eagerly visits WHW open days with me.

Try to appeal to their interests, see what parts of the hobby could be compatible. Is she arty? Does she like cute/dark things? Is she competitive?

Eternus
02-09-2009, 14:52
Try to appeal to their interests, see what parts of the hobby could be compatible. Is she arty? Does she like cute/dark things? Is she competitive?

Is she arty? In a home interior kind of way, yes.

Does she like cute/dark things? Cute, check.

Is she competitive? Is it funny when a Giant stuffs someones general down their pants? Hell yeah!

I considered buying something that she might like for her to paint, like a Unicorn or a Pegasus - you know, something friendly and inoffensive. I think it's been said though - I've tried long enough, if it ain't working so far, it's never going to work.

Maybe I should try reverse psychology - start hiding my stuff and being secretive rather than leaving it all over the place and talking about it.

The Red Scourge
02-09-2009, 14:58
Or just respect her for having gone past the stage of playing with little plastic dolls :)

Now try seeing it the other way around, as your wife undoubtedly has some obscure interest that you do not share or even try to understand - something like her pink shoe collection just to stay with the stereotypes. Just think about having to be pestered with those pink shoes for 7 years, getting dragged to her pink shoe club, and be introduced to her fellow shoe adorers of the pink kind. Not something you'd want to, but then again you do it out of respect and love, but why not just be nice and give her a break. She hasn't shown an interest for 7 years, so it might take another 7 :)

Alternately, when ever you sit down to watch a movie, watch something fantasylike preferably with dragons and big battles ;)

Matt1982
02-09-2009, 14:58
My girlfriends a pagan with an interest in Egyptology, so predictably enough it was Wood Elves and Tomb Kings that sparked her interest. Consider what your wife's interests are, if there's any particular historical period, society or country that she's interested in and find its Warhammer equivalent.

Wolf 11x
02-09-2009, 15:02
My girlfriend has no interest in the hobby. However, she could probably be convinced to paint. She's just not into fantasy or sc-fi.

Gimp
02-09-2009, 15:03
Psyduck

I wish I could get my girlfriend into to Warhammer.

She is still laughs at my friends and i for being grown men who play with little toys :rolleyes:

Whitehorn
02-09-2009, 15:06
Time for you to buy some bigger tanks :)

Slot
02-09-2009, 17:34
I got my gf into Warhammer through the models. At first she gave me constant grief about being a geek, which i never argued. Then came the warhammer doubles event at warhammer world, i asked her to be my partner. She agreed, but said she would only play if she chose her forces army. She liked the daemon models (in particular daemonettes...) so we both started collecting 750pts worth of models for the tourney.

My gf then started to read the army book, and thats where she really got into it! She loves the depth of the background and has read all of my army books. Her first attempts at painting were woeful, but then, whose wasn't? now she is a really good painter and is helping me get my armies painted up and helps me organize my life so i can paint/play more.

We go to warhammer world every week (we live 15mins away) to either play, have a coffee at bugmans or talk to the people we know there.

we are now also painting up a Lizardmen army for next years doubles with the intention of winning the best painted army award (we both push each other to try better and compare painting) and she even paints on her own when i'm not there!

BigRob
02-09-2009, 17:50
Don't push it, chances are they won't be into it or will have thier own thing they do that you don't "get".

My wife was semi interested while we were going out, but changed her mind once we were married and insisted it all went. I had to fight tooth and nail to cling onto my last few books and rare bits and she mocks the time I spend on warseer, once actually saying she'd rather I was looking at porn on the web like a "normal" bloke.

Recently I had hope, one of her friends plays sisters of battle and so she actually brough AoBR and had a go at painting some pink spacemarines, but her friend has had a baby so its all on hold now again.

Seriously, hang onto your time and thing, before you know it you get no time!

Boondock
02-09-2009, 18:01
I get such a kick out of people that think that their girl will like Warhammer/40k/Whatever despite the general knowledge that you couldn't get most guys interested. It's like the thought pattern simply skips that and goes "I like it, she's likes me, therefore she must like it somehow."

gorenut
02-09-2009, 18:42
I wonder how long before threads like these stop popping up. Why can't Warhammer gamers just be looked at as Warhammer/Miniatures gamers instead of making a deal out of the gender? As many have already said.. you're either into the hobby, or not.

orlanth1000
02-09-2009, 20:27
I'm glad my wife isn't interested, she appreciates how much I love it, but leaves me alone with as long as it doen't affect my time with our children or our business.
For me it's my time out and way to relax.
Doing everything with your wife/partner is a little bit unhealthy in my opinion.

Lord 0
03-09-2009, 02:56
As long as people that do play have partners of the opposite gender that don't play, then threads like this will *never* stop popping up.

If you had a friend who was an accountant that didn't play and you wanted them to then it makes sense to ask for advice from accountants. If they are football fans then it would make sense to ask football fans. If they are female then it would make sense to ask other females.

starlight
03-09-2009, 03:22
*marvels at the absence of female members Posting on this Thread...*

:p

I've known three women (including my ex-wife) aside from GW staff or their spouses who showed any interest in the game. All were initially attracted to the painting/collecting side first.

My ex-wife kept all the WFB armies (*her* armies) and her Tyranid army, so maybe that says she really was interested...? Or maybe she just eBayed them... :( I'll never know.

orlanth1000
03-09-2009, 03:39
*marvels at the absence of female members Posting on this Thread...*

:p

I've known three women (including my ex-wife) aside from GW staff or their spouses who showed any interest in the game. All were initially attracted to the painting/collecting side first.

My ex-wife kept all the WFB armies (*her* armies) and her Tyranid army, so maybe that says she really was interested...? Or maybe she just eBayed them... :( I'll never know.

Why does that make me want to cry :cries:

theunwantedbeing
03-09-2009, 03:48
If your girlfriend is genuine, she likes you for who you are.

You mean the imaginary ones dont like me for who I am?

Every girl I've known of who played warhammer was in warhammer due to their boyfreind/husband. Usually started off by painting/assembling things for their other half.

And one of them has pink orks.

madprophet
03-09-2009, 06:04
My wife has no interest in the hobby at all. She thinks I am nuts for playing with toy soldiers at my age but then she is into things I am not - like chick-flicks (shudder).

Basically she tolerates my minis but she does like fantasy and sci-fi stories, she just has no interest in gaming.

On the otherhand, my kids think its cool so maybe I'll introduce them to the hobby.

Eternus
03-09-2009, 08:57
I wonder how long before threads like these stop popping up. Why can't Warhammer gamers just be looked at as Warhammer/Miniatures gamers instead of making a deal out of the gender? As many have already said.. you're either into the hobby, or not.

So is it wrong to encourage a broader gamer base? What better way to throw off the geek/nerd related stereotypes than to increase the female gamer numbers - or is this just impossible? I can't think of a girl I have ever heard called a geek, regardless of their interests.

BobtheInquisitor
03-09-2009, 10:33
I got into the hobby through BFG, and my wife got into it through Babylon 5. Let me explain.
My wife is every bit as big a nerd as I am, and actually knows more Elvish (Tolkein's version) than I know Klingon, and I own the damn dictionary. When we met, she had never seen Babylon 5, so we started watching it. She loved it. Then I started buying Babylon 5 minis, and we both painted them. Then I noticed BFG, and my wife thought the Necron ships could be Centauri and the Eldar could be Minbari, so she painted them. Then I bought more BFG ships, and even some novels. My wife loves painting BFG ships, and she enjoyed Eisenhorn, Ciaphas Cain and a couple other books, although she doesn't like Space Marine stories.

When Battle for MacCragge came out, my wife took a shine to Tyranids. She loves painting them (each one is unique!), although we haven't done that so much lately. Recently she said to me "We have so many of the models, maybe we should play the damn game." So, we plan to try Space Hulk and see if we like playing the actual game itself.

In Conclusion, painting seems to be an effective method for gaining interest in the hobby, and smaller board game versions of 40k might be easier to learn...at first.

Oh, and Tyranids are cute.

Gav2k
03-09-2009, 12:35
So me and my girlfriend had our first battle last night. On the epicly un-huge scale of 350pts, we agreed we only wanted a small game to start things off.
So I point to my models on my window shelf "You can use these guys *pointing at Night Goblins* or these guys *pointing to Lizardmen*".
Upon close inspection she decided that she wanted to play Goblins; "Those other guys are too spikey and scary," she said.
So that was that decided, and I helped her draw up an army list (well, I basically made it for her, but made sure to give her all the options and any advice she needed).
For example: "Do you want your leader-Goblin to be a magicky-person or a fighty-person?"
"Magicky. Magicky is cool, and I always wanted to be a wizard when I was wee!" she said quite optimistically.
"K, so you've got a Shaman. Pick out of these two shaman models"
She picked the Shaman model with the squig you get from BfSP. "This guy. He has a pumpkin."
"A pumpkin?"
"Yeah this thing at the front...with the teeth and eyes and legs..."
I lol'd.
She decided that all her goblins were trick-or-treating kids out on Halloween, and the Shaman (dubbed "Pumpkin") was the leader who knew all the best houses to go to.

So she ended up with:
--"Pumpkin" the Night Goblin Shaman with Armour of (M?)Gork and the Foot of Gork spell.
---20 goblins with bows
---20 goblins with bows
---20 goblins with hand weapons and shield
---20 goblins with hand weapons and shield

I was using the previous Lizardmen book, I had:

--Scar-Veteran with Greatweapon and Cloak of the Jaguar
---10 Saurus
---10 Saurus


Once she grasped a hold of the turn-system, she was throwing dice left and right and shooting me down. Her tactics were really good for a first-timer and only once asked me for advice mid-battle. Whenever she got a kill, she'd flick over the Saurus she had slain, just so she could say it was her that had killed it.
It wasn't until my Saurus got close to her that I was gonna inflict any damage, and by that time it was getting late and she had to go home.

She expressed interest in playing another game, only this time dont waste time writing the army-list (so we'll play with the same units again). I was pretty thrilled that she wasn't completely bored by it, the only thing she didnt like was having to move all those goblins when I only had a handful of guys. Oh, and I personally felt disappointed - she tried to cast Foot of Gork twice and failed, I wanted to see her cast a spell successfully (she wanted a Wizard character, she should be allowed to cast spells dammit!)

Great fun, it was nice to play against an opponent who was only out for a laugh, and it was a learning experience for me! (Im not so fluid with the Fantasy rules, I normally let my other friends be the rules-man. So I got to learn a bit about the game myself.)

So, it's a plus for me, really.

Morgrish the Malignant
03-09-2009, 13:15
*marvels at the absence of female members Posting on this Thread...*

:p

Exactly what I was thinking scrolling down...

Anyway, just to make a note on how my girl sees my hobby:
First of all I don't play the game unfortunately, since I don't have anyone around to play with/against, GW is near, but then time is being a b*tch again. So in fact I would love to have my girl play, that would give me an opponent!

For the little time I have to spare I model and paint VC and like to do a good terrain piece, or some models from a different race just for the change. My girl respects my hobby in every way, sure she thinks I'm a total nerd when it comes to that, but it doesn't matter we're all nerds in our own little ways! She can actually enjoy me being so serious over toy soldiers and being so concentrated while painting. She actually learned a great deal of patience from me, which she desperatly needed :p

Painting and modelling (especially some scenery) did get her attention, and so she actually had an attempt at painting a mini at the Dutch "games day", which she quite enjoyed. Still she thinks having a go at mini's just takes too much of her... but I'll have her have another go sometime. In the meanwhile I designed a project for the both of us, which I think is quite a good idea to get her more involved. She's not really of the 'evil' kind, so also for me I saw an opportunity to really paint/model something that was quite far from me. So now we're working on a big diorama of an early-autumn setting with grassland/rocks/trees/rapid-river/house/bridge - so basically a bit of everything. It goes veryvery... no VERY!... slowly since she has actually even less time to spare than me, but every time that we are doing a little bit, I can see she enjoys it.
Who knows? maybe I will get her to play a game with me one day - she is a very competitive/fighter girl and will enjoy the challenge, I'm sure!

So, as many others have said already: if she's not really interested, try to find a particular aspect which does grab her, and work from there, there might even be a new and interesting challenge for you to!

GodSlayer
03-09-2009, 15:22
I think most people want their gf (or bf) to play to have a easy access player. Where I am, there's not much gamers, so if I could manage for my gf to play, i'd be able to play a lot more.;)

By the time I succeed, my son's surely gonna be interested... They recommend starting at what age, 8, 10?:angel:

Lijacote
03-09-2009, 15:28
Why does it matter if the player is male or female? Is it because of the cultural stigma surrounding gaming? Not a rhetoric question.

N810
03-09-2009, 15:44
I wonder how long before threads like these stop popping up. Why can't Warhammer gamers just be looked at as Warhammer/Miniatures gamers instead of making a deal out of the gender? As many have already said.. you're either into the hobby, or not.

We seem to get these type of threads ... oooh about once a month or so. :rolleyes:

starlight
03-09-2009, 15:44
Why does it matter if the player is male or female? Is it because of the cultural stigma surrounding gaming? Not a rhetoric question.

It's not that it *matters*, it's that most of us hereabouts are male, so our significant others tend to be inscrutable females. If we could get them interested, we could share our cool hobby (wargaming) with them. :)

Gav2k
03-09-2009, 15:49
Why does it matter if the player is male or female? Is it because of the cultural stigma surrounding gaming? Not a rhetoric question.

It's not so much about the gender of the player. Eternus was asking specifically about female gamers because, by-and-large, wargamers are male, yet his Partner is female. There are generally different aspects of what interests a female and what interests a male.

"How to get your partner into Warhammer" would have been a good thread name, too. It's not so much about "How can we get chicks into the hobby," more "How can we get our partners to enjoy the hobby, so we have A: More access to quick battle opponents, and B: Another activity couples can engage in."
These can be for not only straight couples, but indeed people of any sexual orientation.

Morgrish the Malignant
03-09-2009, 16:01
It's not so much about the gender of the player. Eternus was asking specifically about female gamers because, by-and-large, wargamers are male, yet his Partner is female. There are generally different aspects of what interests a female and what interests a male.

Exactly.

And therefore it would be very interesting also to hear from the girls around here what did make them participate in and/or even love wargaming... although I don't expect anything spectacular, it would be a very nice comparisson (in a more scientific/psychological manner) to make if it turns out that there are quite siginificant differences in the minds of our female counterparts that drove them to the hobby.

Eternus
03-09-2009, 16:17
Exactly.

And therefore it would be very interesting also to hear from the girls around here what did make them participate in and/or even love wargaming... although I don't expect anything spectacular, it would be a very nice comparisson (in a more scientific/psychological manner) to make if it turns out that there are quite siginificant differences in the minds of our female counterparts that drove them to the hobby.

Amazingly well put - The whole point of this take on a re-occurring subject in a nutshell.

gorenut
03-09-2009, 17:48
So is it wrong to encourage a broader gamer base? What better way to throw off the geek/nerd related stereotypes than to increase the female gamer numbers - or is this just impossible? I can't think of a girl I have ever heard called a geek, regardless of their interests.

Well, definitely not problem to encourage a broader gamer base, but I don't think making such a big deal about the opposite gender is the correct way to doing it (not saying you're doing this, or anyone specifically, just a general statement). I hear all these stories about dudes trying to cater or deliver Warhammer a certain way (usually very watered-down or "wrapped" a certain way) to their female friends just to attempt to get them interested. Has it ever occurred to anyone that this might be slightly demeaning? I would say just introduce the hobby as you would to any other friend.. I think bottom line is that someone who is interested in doing such hobbies will most likely enjoy it no matter how you present it (unless you're a total prick about it). Differentiating genders in this hobby is more harmful (IMO) to the goal of broadening the gamer base.

starlight
03-09-2009, 17:58
I disagree on some levels. It has been shown that (in general) guys traditionally get into wargaming because their buddies are playing and they want to play too, whereas girls tend to be introduced through male friends (as opposed to gaming buddies) through the painting/art/story side. Ignoring this is folly. As with *any* interest you're trying to introduce to a new person (young/old, male/female, etc), find what resonates with them and focus on that initially...

If she picks up a Tyranid and say (apparently this is common), "How cute!", offer it to her to try painting. I don't care if it's your lovingly converted Broodlord, if she's your girl, man up and take one for the team. :p Okay, okay, offer her a regular Genestealer to practise on and convert her up a special model to work on once she's happy with her skills. No matter what she ends up doing, keep your compliments to the *quality* of her work. If she totally trashes the background (AoBR Ultras in pink and yellow :eek:, Dark Eldar in purple and yellow...but that was a guy, so shut it:p ), keep your yap shut and encourage her with the art sections of various GW books. Let her know it's perfectly fine to diverge from the books and do what she wants. :)

Lord Dan
03-09-2009, 18:35
I love how these threads, specifically aimed at the opinion of female gamers, always ends up being 6-7 pages of guys arguing about gender.

badgeraddict
03-09-2009, 18:43
I've gotten my Fiance into playing LOTR. Its a start.

She'd like to try fantasy once she knows all the LOTR rules.

Win.

Eternus
04-09-2009, 08:41
I love how these threads, specifically aimed at the opinion of female gamers, always ends up being 6-7 pages of guys arguing about gender.

Maybe it's just female forumites that are mythical then. There seem to be plenty of accounts of female gamers, although this thread is more about getting partners into gaming rather than being just about female gamers specifically, a female partner just happens to be what I have.


I've gotten my Fiance into playing LOTR. Its a start.

She'd like to try fantasy once she knows all the LOTR rules.

Win.

There, it can and is being done, as several posters have said - though I think there has to be an underlying interest or openess to the subject. There doesn't seem to be a way of enticing people who just aren't that way inclined. I think I'll give up on the idea, as in my case, there just isn't the interest.

Though she's trying to get me to join her at the gym now - how ironic.

badgeraddict
04-09-2009, 08:46
There, it can and is being done, as several posters have said - though I think there has to be an underlying interest or openess to the subject. There doesn't seem to be a way of enticing people who just aren't that way inclined. I think I'll give up on the idea, as in my case, there just isn't the interest.

This is true. She has painted models in the past and even entered Golden Demon before, which I did not know! :eek:

She is going to come along to the 'Storm' tournament in Norfolk with me in October to see what it is all about.

She said yesterday and I quote; 'You have Dark Elves too?! We should have a Dark V High Elf game sometime that would be so cool.' :)

I'm so proud. :D

Eternus
04-09-2009, 09:10
This is true. She has painted models in the past and even entered Golden Demon before, which I did not know! :eek:

She is going to come along to the 'Storm' tournament in Norfolk with me in October to see what it is all about.

She said yesterday and I quote; 'You have Dark Elves too?! We should have a Dark V High Elf game sometime that would be so cool.' :)

I'm so proud. :D

Can I pay the two of you to come to my house and give a lecture?

Jedi152
04-09-2009, 10:03
She said yesterday and I quote; 'You have Dark Elves too?! We should have a Dark V High Elf game sometime that would be so cool.' :)
Was this her chat up line? :D

Morgrish the Malignant
04-09-2009, 10:27
She said yesterday and I quote; 'You have Dark Elves too?! We should have a Dark V High Elf game sometime that would be so cool.' :)

I'm so proud. :D

And justly you are... I'm jealous :p

And to all people saying that we men are all arguing about the subject in this thread:

I think it's not so much arguing, we're all just wondering - as we always do, since the beginning and until the end of time - what's going in those brains of our beloved girls, and by the lack of input from the ones in question, we're all just guessing in the dark. Our philosophies are incapable of penetrating the depths of their thoughts (surface; maybe partially). So on the question of how to get them into wargaming, as was the initial point to this thread; I say: Trial & Error... Some have had succes so far - we can learn from that - others are still in the process. Until we really get some female input, little can be said for sure.

Gav2k
04-09-2009, 10:44
This may be of importance:

In the BfSP book, I let my gf have a look at the little model pages of each army, to see which ones she liked.
Particularly, she liked the Wood Elves, and said that the High Elves and Bretonnians were alright, too... These are more..."Clean" characters, few spikes and gnashing teeth... She hates my lizardmen and doesnt like the idea of Beastmen (which I explained ill be collecting)...

So, introducing them to the fairy-tale characters (Forest Elves, Noble Elves, Knights-In-Shining-Armour-on-Pretty-Horses-and-Unicorns-and-Birdy-Horses) can be a good step, and keeping them away from the gruesome stuff for the time being would be handy.

Course, this is taking into consideration that ur sweet-baby girl isnt a dominatrix who is into spikes and whips..... :P

RED9335
04-09-2009, 10:56
my wife loves it, she also plays the new dark elves though, lol.

Eternus
04-09-2009, 10:56
Course, this is taking into consideration that ur sweet-baby girl isnt a dominatrix who is into spikes and whips..... :P

Umm....... ;)

Gav2k
04-09-2009, 12:12
..... Nice.

badgeraddict
04-09-2009, 13:07
Can I pay the two of you to come to my house and give a lecture?

Perhaps...:p


Was this her chat up line? :D

:D Sadly not.


And justly you are... I'm jealous :p

*Basks in the awe of his fellow warseerians.* :D

NecroMaster
05-09-2009, 04:10
Though she's trying to get me to join her at the gym now - how ironic.

Do it. I did something similiar with my wife. She wanted me to play cards with her and her family whenever we visit them. At first I didn't, but then I gave in and did it. a few days later I was on the GW website looking at some models, a stegadon, and she saw it. She told me she thought it was cool. I showed her some other large creatures like the treemen and the dragons and she loved those too. To make a long story short, I gave in to the cards and she gave in to WHF. Right now she plays with my HE but ultimately she wants to collect a Lizardman army.
Thats that. Do what your woman asks of you and reap the benefits.

PS My wife doesnt play WH with the guys and I. She only plays it with me. That's how I would have it anyway so it works out best for the both of us

nightlina
05-09-2009, 05:08
Exactly.

And therefore it would be very interesting also to hear from the girls around here what did make them participate in and/or even love wargaming... although I don't expect anything spectacular, it would be a very nice comparisson (in a more scientific/psychological manner) to make if it turns out that there are quite siginificant differences in the minds of our female counterparts that drove them to the hobby.

Okay... um... I'm a girl :P And I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one here.. ^^;; I'm 22 and have been with my boy for almost 2 years now.

My boyfriend (JettySmurf) got into Warhammer about 6 months ago now. I had never played but my brother had been into 40k about 10 years earlier and my brother-in-law has a dwarf army that he's had for years. So I knew what warhammer was before Smurf and I were even together.

So I think this made things a bit easier for me to get into the series. I've also always been interested in art (I'm a designer) and fantasy (I used to write lots of fantasy stories). The thing that probably got me most interested in playing was the fluff - Smurf was reading the book for his lizardmen and telling me about the story and it made me realise that there was a lot more to warhammer than just playing the game.

Helping him put his models together was a pretty good activity that we could both do together, once I convinced him to set it all up at the couch in front of the tv and next to the heater.

He bought me a hydra for my birthday (I'd mentioned that the creatures in the Dark Elves army were probably my favourites) and a few weeks after we posted a thread in here asking what for suggestions on what to get as a dark elves army.

So now I've got my dark elves army... And I enjoy putting things together and painting, but getting me into actually *playing* the game........

I'd watched a few of his games and been pretty bored and found it hard to follow what was going on. The games seemed to go forever and understanding the process and what steps needed to be taken just seemed impossible.

Then we discovered warbands. Warbands games are short and sweet. I was able to play a proper game of warhammer without getting bored or overwhelmed by how much is involved. And with the different objectives it makes you feel like you aren't just playing to see who has the most points at the end.

And that's pretty much where we are now. I'm still only playing warbands (I don't have enough of my army put together for much else) but I'm getting used to the rules and getting a feel for the game and feeling like I can actually participate in warhammer conversations which is nice :)

So what do we learn from my story?
1) Warhammer is a big game with a LOT to it, try and find one element in it that might interest your partner and use that as a point to get them involved in the game

2) Play smaller games. Warbands is perfect. The games are so quick and simple even the shortest attention span can be held.

3) Make it a joint activity and try to listen to music or watch tv while you work on the models so that you can take a break if it starts to feel like a 'chore'.

Now I don't know if this will work for everyone. As I said I knew what Warhammer was before I met Smurf and already had an interest in fantasy and art, so I guess I was probably a good prospect for getting into the game, but it has definitely helped that we can talk about the fluff and play quick warbands games when we've got half an hour free.

However both my brothers-in-law now play warhammer, but my sisters definitely don't. Michael even bought my eldest sister a wood elves army to try and get her involved... and what did she suggest when I asked her about them the other night? That 'they would make great garden ornaments'...

..........She's seriously considering putting them in the garden..............

Point 4) Don't go spending $100s on an army for your partner when they're really not interested in it x___x

I hope this helps someone :) If you have any questions on how Smurf and I fit warhammer into our life (along with everything else) feel free to ask :)

steppingonyou
05-09-2009, 14:51
my ex wife was into warhammer, she even had a bret army and played at GT's.

now my current GF doesn't play at all. and has no interest. i bought a tau mantra, had it together, painted it. set it out for display. and she walked by it and said "is that new?"

then again she dont cheat. so.

ive played a fair share of women. no different than men. women who play tend more towards the "nerdy" in personality. of course this is a matter of stereotyping, as im sure there is an airheaded woman that plays out there somewhere. just as there is some very stupid men that play.

Eternus
06-09-2009, 16:45
Okay... um... I'm a girl :P And I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only one here..

So what do we learn from my story?
1) Warhammer is a big game with a LOT to it, try and find one element in it that might interest your partner and use that as a point to get them involved in the game

2) Play smaller games. Warbands is perfect. The games are so quick and simple even the shortest attention span can be held.

3) Make it a joint activity and try to listen to music or watch tv while you work on the models so that you can take a break if it starts to feel like a 'chore'.

Now I don't know if this will work for everyone. As I said I knew what Warhammer was before I met Smurf and already had an interest in fantasy and art, so I guess I was probably a good prospect for getting into the game, but it has definitely helped that we can talk about the fluff and play quick warbands games when we've got half an hour free.

Point 4) Don't go spending $100s on an army for your partner when they're really not interested in it x___x

I hope this helps someone :) If you have any questions on how Smurf and I fit warhammer into our life (along with everything else) feel free to ask :)

As the first female poster on this thread, thank you very much for your input, it is very much appreciated.

nightlina
07-09-2009, 07:38
As the first female poster on this thread, thank you very much for your input, it is very much appreciated.

You're welcome :D But I really was the first....? That's .. that's almost sad lol.

Hopefully it's just that other female forumites haven't seen this thread - I usually spend my time in the m,p&t topics and wouldn't have noticed this if Smurf hadn't pointed it out to me.

selone
07-09-2009, 08:30
There are other female forumers that have read this thread, and just chose not to reply.

RED9335
07-09-2009, 08:53
My wife kicks everyones ass in my store gaming group with those damn dark elves, lol I've learned from her and i've played for 12 years lol. ill try to get her to post if i can keep offa twiter facebook myspace lol

VectraBaby
07-09-2009, 14:42
Hello to all of the ladies on Warseer - I know you are out there! I was wondering if anyone would like to share how they got into the hobby, as I think that in some cases it may be a different route to that of us gents. Were any of you enticed into the hobby by a partner? If so, how on earth did they manage it? Were you reluctant at first, or was it right up your street?

I ask these questions because I have tried for a long long time now to get my better half to have a go, and have had no success - what is the secret from the girls perspective?



hiya,
Well I got in it through my cousins (Male) They used to play 40k this was about 15yrs ago, I never got the game I just use to buy models I like they look of then painted them, never played. forgot about it for about 9yrs
Then in my last job started browsing the GW site and my mate Paul used to be in and I got him all fired up again! so we played tiny 500 point battles at work! (after hours of course)
now i am trying Very hard to get back into it!

to be fair I am no GIRLIE GIRL! i am a proper tom boy!

spetswalshe
07-09-2009, 15:13
And the urban legend that girls always tend to play wood elves or sisters of battle is complete and total fact.

People only ever play their real gender. That's why all Ork players are asexual psychopaths and why all the girls I meet online have the same face pic.

Eternus
07-09-2009, 15:36
People only ever play their real gender. That's why all Ork players are asexual psychopaths and why all the girls I meet online have the same face pic.

I play 10 armies between Fantasy and 40K, and only one of them is mainly female (Witch Hunter - Sisters), so just 10% of my total armies. would this be referred to as my (gulp), feminine side? If so, they have guns! And they have an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor Lord in charge - not a man to be messed with - does that indicate some kind of Male Dominance complex, having a powerful male in charge of all those high heeled but very angry be-weaponed females?

VectraBaby
08-09-2009, 09:43
People only ever play their real gender. That's why all Ork players are asexual psychopaths and why all the girls I meet online have the same face pic.

Well I play with my Dark Elves, Vampire counts and Dwarves! says it all really LOL

I am looking at starting a 40k army just not sure which one I like the look of LOL