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heretic
13-01-2006, 05:43
ok, so I finally saw War of the Worlds, be it many months late (with wife/kids/job we don't get out much) and although the whole plot sucked, I got inspired as to what a Necron titan would look like. According to the codex, the war in heaven fielded massive machines against each other.

I did a search and didn't find anything covering this, so I'm considering building one as a side project, using bits from necron models (definately upped to 40k scale) and think the following would look right.. legs similiar to the backbone/tail of a wraith, the upper body in the front will look like a tomb spyder and the rear like a destroyer.

What's odd is that the tripods harvested people just as I'd imagine the Necrons harvesting minds.. it all seems to fit. thoughts?

edit: I used MSPaint and made a horrible collage to show what I'm talking about

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/crappytitan.jpg

FrostySalamanader
13-01-2006, 07:38
War of the Worlds.

Story sucking?

macbeth
13-01-2006, 07:50
That would seem cool... And it would totally fot with the Necrons, something which is totally different from what the other races have done as regards Titans...

firestorm40k
13-01-2006, 08:55
I like your mocked up photo, something like that with a bit of the harvester machines from Matrix thrown in (floating, rather than striding on big legs) seems like a good idea.

There is a playtest Necron list for Epic (go to www.specialist-games.com, go to the epic section, then the playtest rules) there aren't any big 'titan' like war machines, rather there is something like a giant Pylon (you know, the big gun FW produce) and a giant version of a Monolith which is like a temple where all the harvested humans are taken...

Sai-Lauren
13-01-2006, 09:29
I like your mocked up photo, something like that with a bit of the harvester machines from Matrix thrown in (floating, rather than striding on big legs) seems like a good idea.

Well, considering that in the necron army, really only the warriors actually walk anywhere - all the war machines float - I'd go with the Matrix Harvesters as a starting point - just much bigger and nastier.

There's already four races that have walking titan class machines (Imperial/Chaos, Eldar, Ork and Tyrannid), and one that is essentially a huge aircraft (Tau Mantas), so having one that just floats around would mark it out as very different.

xerxeshavelock
13-01-2006, 10:24
I ilke the idea. Would be better scratch-built rather than cobbled together from existing parts, but the idea is inspired.

Lets see some more

yphead
13-01-2006, 11:16
the floating idea would be best ( the legs make it look a bit to much like the tyranide bio-titain).
3 structure points.
little or no weapons.
but lots of arms/claws to grab/harvest enemy modles. ie each hit in H-H is one modle removed from play (regardles of nomber of wounds). All the modles are kept in confinement and if the titain is destroyed are treated like transported modles.
A bit weak but possibly a good start on the rules :)

heretic
13-01-2006, 15:56
I was thinking a skimmer titan would definatly be more appropriate, but it doesn't seem to have the same creepyness factor of the tripod maybe instead of the legs moving it around, have them sor of like tentacles and have more of them?

oh, and my plot comment was the whole deadbeat dadside story, not the actual storyline of the movie :)

Puffin Magician
13-01-2006, 18:00
Your original idea resembles the Abbatoir the closest. Found on the SG site that Firestorm linked to, it's a giant pyramid with lots of Scarab bases and Feeder Tentacles dangling down from it's hovering bulk.

Since there's no model and even the Epic site has but rudimentary scribbles, your "huge Destroyer with slashy bits" would work just as well for the design; modelling Scarabs on the base could act as additional CCWs as well as a few Gauss weapons [something the Abbatoir itself does not have].

heretic
13-01-2006, 18:20
yeah, I'm looking at the PDF right now... I like the concept but the design just doesn't suit me. I feel a necron harvestor wouldn't make a Titan crew look in awe, but rather crap themselves in fear, something glowing, creeping high above the gound with masses running from it.. if it's to be a skimmer, I think it should look like a mix of egyptian and archaic forms, the epic harvestor looks too "clean" if you catch my drift. in the 'cron dex it describes the way they were designed: To say in a universal language that we are death.

also, it could be a smaller harvestor, the one in epic seems to be like a large fortress, I'm still thinking of something only titan size.

I wish I could draw, I have some concepts in my head based upon making it a skimmer, just take my MSPaint and instead of legs it's more like multiple tenticals coming out, scarab swarms swirling around (so many the sound drowns out everything) with a monolith structure on the back just behind the "head," Flux arcs coming down to the battlefield, and lightning firing between the tenticles. Think of a portuguese man-o-war but metal with the parts in the concept and a monolith-shape on its back

edit: here's crappy MSPaint number 2

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/crappytitan2.jpg

HiredSword.
13-01-2006, 22:50
lol, craptacular.

Nice idea though, would it resemble something like a tyranid spore mine? I can't really think of any advice other than to say the concept is definately heading in a unique and imo the right way.

Anarchyman99
14-01-2006, 04:35
I like it make it have like D6 Attacks in CC V.S. and enemy unit within 12" give it a 12" Move with No assault move, So it's not fast but not too slow but no leap forward in the assault. It lumbers and kills only because it has stuff to kill close to it, unlike Nid's Leaping at a target......just an Idea. I like the "harvesting" models thats very cool.

AgentZero
14-01-2006, 06:24
Combine War of the Worlds with The Matrix with Terminator.:D

Good luck building the Titan

Orcdom
14-01-2006, 08:14
i dont know if i would see necrons having a CC aspect on thier titans except for fend off other titans.

i would see them having a weapon that is variable power, something like the BFG Necron Tomb ship (i think thats the one).

because necrons are generally a shooty army and i would think thier titan class would represent that.

maybe thier weapon to fend off other monstrosoties in CC would be an ubber close ranged high strength weapon like the old warlord titans used to have.

but you could use a long/thin wire and attach scarabs on them for your tenticles, the scarabs would be your feelers.
Steve

Puffin Magician
14-01-2006, 10:46
Their Titan classes represents the shooty aspect well; have a look at the Pylon, and Ĉonic Orb - both hellish creations of superzappy firepower.

Having 6 Titan CCW attacks is über enough; considering other Titans in it's class normally only have 2 or 3, and like Dreadnought CCWs; Titan CCWs double strength: to s10. Having specialized weapons like a Laser Burner or BattleClaw wouldn't be very Necrony - giving each Scarab swarm a Gauss Cannon and/or Blaster is good for taking care of powerful close-ranged weapons.

heretic
14-01-2006, 16:24
er, lemee build it before I worry about rules on its stats ;).. the AEonic orb thoguh might be something I might do next, using one of those "eye of the storm" balls :o

As to materials, I think I'm going to use polystyrene foam, the model is going to be very topheavy as it is and clay/greenstuff will make it very unstable. What I'm having trouble with is what to use as the tenticles. I want something like BX cable, but much thinner (if you have a desklamp with a movable stem slide the plastic cover off and you'll see what I'm thinking about)

I need to find something about 1/4" in diameter at most.. maybe 16ga wire and I can score it to look like flex conduit



if possible, can a mod move this thread to painting/terrain?

Orcdom
14-01-2006, 17:24
try using something like a wire hanger and wrap it with tape or something in tight spirals will get the look your after.
Steve

heretic
14-01-2006, 17:50
that actually might work... and 8 of them should be enough to support the weight of the top (considering it'll have a monolith, pylon, and the body itself to support)

Dakkagor
14-01-2006, 19:47
If you want a real necron war machine, the second renassaince part 2 of the animatrix has some awesome machinerys produced by the rebelling machines. . .
http://matrixboard.free.fr/animatrix-large/SR2-76.jpg

http://matrixboard.free.fr/animatrix-large/SR2-71.jpg

heretic
14-01-2006, 19:52
to me those don't inspire enough fear... the necron tomb spyder look like a nasty little bugger. I want it to loo like a metal monster, hovering over the ground with tentacles hanging down, snatching people up into its body. having something flying around just zapping doesn't really seem to be the necron way, they seem to have a fetish for scaring the crap out of the enemy (pariahs, flayed ones, etc) and I want to capture that but on a large scale. I sketched out an idea, i'll upload it once I get this little side thingy I have going on here done.

pyramid_head
15-01-2006, 04:16
Necron's version of a Titan is a huge dias with a star chunk floating over it which projects superheated plasma to burn through things, check the epic armageddon roster.

heretic
15-01-2006, 04:36
um.. read the thread, we all know about the AEonic orb and your post has been addressed :)

concept sketch, sorry about the bad quality I don't have a scanner.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/P1130033.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/P1130032.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/P1130031.jpg

PariahMagnus
16-01-2006, 21:52
I think of something like a sentinel from the matrix. 20 eyes, but no expressions, scary :D

Mike Johnson
16-01-2006, 23:08
Hmm... I did prefer the straighter metal legs to these danglings ones. More robot rather than alien. Top looks cool though.

heretic
17-01-2006, 20:30
the tenticles will be ribbed, like the wraith's legs-no matter what, I'm going to make this look as far from alien as possible, the bending is exaggerated to show how they whip around, they'll actually be a lot less curved.

Puffin Magician
17-01-2006, 22:16
Dakkagor: Those things were one of my favourite parts of the Animatrix series; not all that fear-inspiring in that shot but just as cold and calculating as the Necrons can ever be - they tear through armoured columns like something fierce.

Iaconic: Could you tell us what the writing on the drawing says? Can't really read them and so don't know what the grabby claws, butt antennae or prawn tail do!

I had an idea on how to model the feeder tendrils [dangley things] when thinking of Mechandrites for the Adeptus Mechanicus. Get a bit of coathanger wire, and find a bit of rubber tube [that's presumably used for wire insulation, I found it in the rubbish bin] or wooden dowel that's 1-1.5cm in diameter and has a hole in the center just large enough to fit the wire through. I guess a craft/bead/necklace store would have something simple and cylindery. Chop it up into 0.5cm bits and bend up the wire to get the heavy but flexible look you want. Don't bend it too much otherwise you won't be able to put the bead-things on; thread them onto the wire until you're satisfied with how they look and glue them into place with a hot glue gun. You'll need to do something about the ends; make a hole in the hull and poke the wire through and at the bottom have some Gauss Flayer-ish disintegrator weapons. As for how to make it hovery, just stick it on a Flyer base.

I think of something like a sentinel from the matrix.A Tomb Spyder, then?

heretic
18-01-2006, 03:50
Dakkagor: Those things were one of my favourite parts of the Animatrix series; not all that fear-inspiring in that shot but just as cold and calculating as the Necrons can ever be - they tear through armoured columns like something fierce.

Iaconic: Could you tell us what the writing on the drawing says? Can't really read them and so don't know what the grabby claws, butt antennae or prawn tail do!

I had an idea on how to model the feeder tendrils [dangley things] when thinking of Mechandrites for the Adeptus Mechanicus. Get a bit of coathanger wire, and find a bit of rubber tube [that's presumably used for wire insulation, I found it in the rubbish bin] or wooden dowel that's 1-1.5cm in diameter and has a hole in the center just large enough to fit the wire through. I guess a craft/bead/necklace store would have something simple and cylindery. Chop it up into 0.5cm bits and bend up the wire to get the heavy but flexible look you want. Don't bend it too much otherwise you won't be able to put the bead-things on; thread them onto the wire until you're satisfied with how they look and glue them into place with a hot glue gun. You'll need to do something about the ends; make a hole in the hull and poke the wire through and at the bottom have some Gauss Flayer-ish disintegrator weapons. As for how to make it hovery, just stick it on a Flyer base.
A Tomb Spyder, then?


thanks for the tip..that just might do the trick although I dunno about blasters on the ends, maybe tomb spyder claws? As to the primary weapon I still am unsure what to model. on the tail there is part of a pylon.

as to the rest of the notes on the sketch, starting with the top image:

on the back: "Large destroyer body"
on the head: "Tomb spyder front end"
near the front arms: "dish-like gauss thingys"
near the tail: "monolith"
tail: "pylon"
near tenticles: "harvestors"

on the front view the caption says, "arms come out the back instead of the sides"


hope this helps :)

Orcdom
18-01-2006, 07:47
actuall flayed ones claws might work here which could be made from plastic DE bayonettes, or plasticard.

Steve

malika
18-01-2006, 13:59
What about something more of a mixture between a Monolith and a Necron Lord...giger style. Look at the original conceptart:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/9.jpg

Important:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/10.jpg

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/13.jpg

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/12.jpg

heretic
18-01-2006, 16:04
while those look damn cool they are still only superheavy size, something ment to hang low to the ground. to give an idea on the size of this titan, it'll be about 30" long. Those seem to be about 12" in length. I want it to be more than a match than a Warhound, but not as much as an Imperiator

Cadian 21st
19-01-2006, 17:39
The top left one here:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/4...t/large/12.jpg
Would be fairly easy to make 30" and look sweet IMO.

Grey Knight
19-01-2006, 18:38
A Necron Titan should not be a large thing, it should be about two times to three times the size of a Destroyer, maybe even the size of a Land Raider. Simply because of the amount of power they can generate and weild it should be smaller and a skimmer. It should also have a Necron built into it, looking at alot of the design drawings they built the Necron at human size into the machines.

You're probably going to have to scratch build it.

Grey Knight
19-01-2006, 19:51
I took some time a drew up a sketch of what I felt a Necron Titan may look like, I dunno if this helps you or not...

http://myspace-497.vo.llnwd.net/00439/79/48/439028497_l.jpg

C is embedded Necron Megalith

skiff
19-01-2006, 19:54
It's no necessary to put a necron warrior into it, because they're brainless machines, without any knowledge of "driving" a titan ;)

Grey Knight
19-01-2006, 19:58
It's no necessary to put a necron warrior into it, because they're brainless machines, without any knowledge of "driving" a titan ;)


You do realise that the Necron aren't brainless machines right? They are encased in the machines, there is something organic in there. They just hate all living things. I would think that they would have a necron in there as its brain much like a machine spirit or a pilot, making the rest of the titan its serrogate body.

Grimtuff
20-01-2006, 21:18
You do realise that the Necron aren't brainless machines right? They are encased in the machines, there is something organic in there. They just hate all living things. I would think that they would have a necron in there as its brain much like a machine spirit or a pilot, making the rest of the titan its serrogate body.


Hate to take this OT, but the are not. Only Pariahs are Necron/Human cyborgs, Necrons are all machine, thier "life essences" were transferred into the robotic bodies, their race (The Necrontyr) is for all intents and puposes extinct, hence their hatred of other living beings.

Sybaronde
20-01-2006, 21:35
Grey Knight: Don't forget machines like the Tomb Spyders and Scarabs. These are machines that virtually have no evidence of classic "Necroid" (skeletal warrior) traits. Imagine those beings in macro version.

heretic
21-01-2006, 04:20
anything that is a "necron" as listed in the codex was a necrontyr. As far as I can tell only the lords have any sense of sentience left, and since GW doesn't like developing the tragedy any further there's no knowing how they feel or what they want.

I like the concept sketch grey knight, however I don't see a need to have a necron warrior in it. The reason being that there is no reason. It's also IMO overdone in 40k, i.e. a dreadnought, talos, defiler, etc.

Also, Tomb spyders seem to be the "workhorse" of the necrons, and are currently the largest model. Since they have no necrontyr traits to them, I can only assume that anything larger than a necron is simply a construct.

The addition of a monolith/megalith is that I see them as a sort of focus of power for the necrons, and also a way to transport them around. Kinda like a listening post in DoW.

It'll go through a ton of revisions, especially as I start building. I've finally given in that this will be from scratch, and unlike other scratch-built titans I can't use the normal plasticard or whatnot for materials. The only thing I can think of is thick polystyrene foam, coated to make it smooth. Flayed ones claws will be too small.

Cadian21st, I assume you ment this picture:

http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/12.jpg

which is still too small, that looks like what would be a necron tank. Now, take this concept that Jes made, and it's closer to what I want (although on a larger scale)

bottom left
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/necrons/extras/concept/large/8.jpg

this has to strike fear, and the previous concepts just look like a larger monolith. The feeling I want to get as I posted in my first post was to get the reaction the Tripods did in WotW, seeing thousands of fleeing IG as these huge harvestors skim overhead behind them. It will need to be massive. I'm thinking 18" or so in length, ant about 7-8" in width. Remember, this is titan scale.

Rabid Bunny 666
21-01-2006, 22:27
that last pic looks good, but a tomb-spyder head would look good, how about having a necron lord "wired" into the chest cavity of it?

heretic
22-01-2006, 00:03
because it just doesn't make any sense... as I posted above, the "entombed" person/eldar/model inside a vehicle is way overdone in 40k:

Talos:
http://www.roktopspaintshop.net/Images/DarkEldarArmy/Talos.jpg

Dread:
http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/events/GT-2003-CN/Toronto/coverage/40k/40k_singles_2/Chris_Richards_b.jpg

Defiler (deamon)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/peinture.figurines/images/defiler2back.jpg

Pentient Engine:
http://summoner.nl/images/products/games_workshop/99110108053/large.jpg

Puffin Magician
22-01-2006, 00:40
...should not be... it should be about... it should be smaller... It should also have...No offence, but your opinion is not a mandate and both the artists of those sketches as well as the Epic: Armageddon Necrons list clearly disagree with you. I like your drawing, but your idea is not the only one available.

As to the sketches themselves, I like them but not as a representation of what I think they would look like. The Necrons are terrifying to behold, but not because they make use of 'scary' imagery like skeletal structures or spooky faces; because they're an unblinking ubiquitous mass of uncaring metal. Scary like HAL 9000, ominous like a thunderstorm, surgical in their attack. Whether their constructs contain biomatter and they are "alive" or not, they are meticulously cold and calculating in their sole purpose - to take revenge on the living.

Cadian 21st
22-01-2006, 00:48
"which is still too small, that looks like what would be a necron tank. Now, take this concept that Jes made, and it's closer to what I want (although on a larger scale)"

- The picture has nothing to do with the scale. If I were making it, that floating gem would be the same as in the Monolith. The Head itself would be at least as tall as a Monolith. The overall length would be nearing that of 2-3 Land Raiders, so approx, what, 24"?

- The insect shape is interesting, but as I've probably posted about the Titans - Walkers of that size aren't actually useful. They make for huge targets and can be knocked down with relative ease. Though that spider-like construct would be interesting, I'd take my chaces any day with the lower centre of gravity.

(edit: Not to say walkers aren't completely useless - they're quite effective at moving over terrain, but that's all they're good for. When you're harvesting, floating over the "crop" would be altogether more effecient.)

heretic
22-01-2006, 00:57
@ both- I'm not mandating any size. I'm not a GW designer, I'm not an artist. I'm a player. In regards to Jes' sketches, if you look at the comments, they are pictures of necron vehicles, tanks, and I believe one says a super heavy.

Titans in themselves are dumb from a tactical standpoint. Battletech and other large scale robots would be pointless. They are not "scary" because they're unblinking-they are made to state in a universal language that they are death.

It's been agreed upon that it'll be a skimmer. The body shape is the only thing up in the air. If those that are disagreeing with my interpetation of a Necron Titan really want to make one like Jes's tank concepts, than by all means build one. This is only my interpetation, just as this is the interpetation of the person who built this Necron titan:

http://groups.msn.com/WarhammerMiniatureGalleries/necrons.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=66

I respect his opinion and have no issues about it. My design is by no means a mandate Puffin, however it is how I choose to have it look. so when I say, "it should be larger" or that "it's not right" I am not saying that those images are wrong. I am saying I feel that way, PERSONALLY. The final word is that I do not like the concepts-at least from the point of them being considered a titan. You and others may disagree, but (not to sound one-offish) you can always built one your way.

I assumed the average person had a grasp on that concept without having to explain it.


If someone wants pink 1k sons, it's up to them. If someone doesn't like it....sorry. I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I'm going to be pumping a lot of time and maybe even money into this, and I want to be happy with what I make.. if others don't like it there's nothing I can do about it. But I don't want to spend all this time on a model I don't like.

Cadian 21st
22-01-2006, 01:01
- Then why ask for our opinions, if you won't use them anyways. Your current mode is almost identical to your original idea.

(edit: The Necron Titan at:
http://groups.msn.com/WarhammerMiniatureGalleries/necrons.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=66
was made to match the prototype Necrons, the ones still called "Robots", which can hardly be considered as the same species, IMO. That's like comparing Wood Elves to Dark Eldar.)

(edit2: sorry for being "hot-headed", and you never actually asked for our opinions, they just evolved.)

heretic
22-01-2006, 01:09
- Then why ask for our opinions, if you won't use them anyways. Your current mode is almost identical to your original idea.

What I am referring to is Puffin's comment as if I'm pushing a mandate-and I did take offense at the comment. My opinion is that I don't like the tank as a titan, and it's fine that the epic orb and harvestor have pictures don't match my ideas.. but just because I disagree doesn't mean that I'm pushing my views on anyone. :)




(edit: The Necron Titan at:
http://groups.msn.com/WarhammerMiniatureGalleries/necrons.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=66
was made to match the prototype Necrons, the ones still called "Robots", which can hardly be considered as the same species, IMO. That's like comparing Wood Elves to Dark Eldar.)

(edit2: sorry for being "hot-headed", and you never actually asked for our opinions, they just evolved.)


nah, didn't think anyone was hot-headed but me.. I always get too defensive sometimes :)

here's the imagery I'm trying to convey-not the look itself of a Tripod, but look at the picture frame as a whole, the "atmosphere" so to speak.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/WoTW-1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/WotW-2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/WoTW-3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/WoTW-4.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/OT_Prostreet/WoTW-5.jpg

personally, seeing these scenes in WotW (plus the train on fire scene) really freaked me out. It didn't scare me, but the feeling of dread when the Tripods made that sound. I want to try and emulate that feeling into what I build.

asmodai_dark86
10-02-2006, 01:16
Because those concepts arent titans, there more like super tanks to me, and I'm sorely tempted to try building one...

HiveTrygon
26-02-2006, 14:57
I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I was sorta pointed to this thread and it is very interesting. I build lots of scratch built stuff and was planning to start Necrons, well I did, and will be making 2 scratch built pieces for sure. The monolith, as the original is nothing like I want, and a titan. The lith will be more like a skimmer, in fact similar to the skull open mouth design, as for the titan I'm up in the air slightly.

I was going to go for a wraith that walks on it's hands and the tail is the cc weapons with a cannon comming out of the mouth. I am so tempted now to make a massive tomb spider with 2 sets of very long tube like arms. I would also like to add a few gauss cannons comming out of the armor in places but not sure on that. I can see the idea of function over visage in the larger necron machines so an almost matrix like spider would probably be the best choice.

Once again sory if I hijack this thread or open something up that is supposed to be closed, I'll start a new one if need be, just hated to waste all the info here. Look through my site to see different creations so you get an idea of how I work, that may give people ideas, it's in my sig. ;)

alpha1620
11-01-2007, 13:27
have you considered a titan of which nothing shows above ground than a set of jaws emergeing from the earth beneath the enemy to swallow whole squads before sinking from sight only to reappear again later? scares the bejesus out of me.

how about a titan made from the reconsituted necron bodies, say a couple hundred necrons melded together by tomb spiders into the form of a millipede, their individual forms still visible amongst the horror of the whole, gauss flayers combining at the head for truly devistating attacks either concentrated at one target or spread amongst the targets.

Lord Hjamlar
11-01-2007, 16:55
I would go for a levitating thing... To be orginal called Sphinx ;) Or sthe like the Matrix mantis + War of the Worlds tripods...

Some kind of monolith like body... Many Wraith tail like arms and three bigger and shorter with build on Necron H. destroyers weapons plus Gauss blasters :)

UreeL
11-01-2007, 17:06
This thread is 11 months old...

hereticdave
11-01-2007, 17:31
Not any more i guess...

Voronwe[MQ]
11-01-2007, 18:38
Revived. Threadomancy? Or perhaps not. Just an interesting conquest.

Anyway, the plot in War of the Worlds is completley terrible in my opinion.

Voronwe

Wintermute
11-01-2007, 18:49
This thread is 11 months old...

Correct


;1210442']Revived. Threadomancy?

I think so.

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