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Proiteus
25-09-2009, 20:32
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/268/c/6/Grot_Log_Banner_by_Proiteus.jpg

The Grot Rebellion
The Grot Rebellion were my first ever heavily converted guard army project, full of a lots of humour and character the army won the ‘Best Army’ award at Open War 9.


http://th06.deviantart.net/fs14/300W/f/2007/069/e/5/Grot_Codex__Colonel_Grotsnik_by_Proiteus.jpg

Feel free to browse the old galleries of the models in the army: THE GREAT GROT REBELLION (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194020)

Anyway that was a long time ago and now I feel it’s time to revive the grots once more. The Grots have been out of action since 5th edition came out since I didn’t like the idea of losing the game on a roll of 5 or 6 when the dice was rolled. The army was built around suicide squads with the 3 vet squads and rough riders. But now that I have completed my Renegade Mechanicus Army it’s time to rebuild the rebellion.

What’s Gonna Change?
Well first off the original army was very infantry based, as you can see from the picture below there was a selection of characterful models for infantry, special weapons, grenadiers, rough riders and vets.


http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/268/f/c/The_Olde_Grot_Rebels_by_Proiteus.jpg

First off we’ll be a complete re-paint as the army was made before foundation and washes so I wanna try out painting a grot with the new stuff and see if it is an improvement on the old ones. If so I’ll be looking to redo the whole army.

The old codex allowed me to parachute the grots onto objective with the Drop Troops Doctrine but with that gone I’m going full mech with them.
At first I was trying to think of a way to convert chimera tanks, and then I remembered I had made a chimera conversion originally which was called the Doom-Vee.


http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs19/i/2007/294/8/3/Grot_Rebellion_Doom_Vee_by_Proiteus.jpg

The Doom-Vee was a fun looking model but sadly ineffective and un-needed in the old codex so it was quickly replaced with the heli-cookas 2 deep striking sentinels with heavy flamers. Of course changes need to be made to the old model such as changing the weapons: the old model had the turret that counted as 2 heavy bolters now instead I plan to add a chimera turret on the top to make it easier to recognise and add a flamer at the front, perhaps were the lights are on the left.


http://th07.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/f/2009/268/6/d/The_Doom_Vee_Mk2_Prototype_by_Proiteus.jpg

But that isn’t the biggest problem, the Poundland toy I got the wheels from is no longer available so I need to find another cheep toy I can rip the wheels of and paint (rubber wheels are a big no). Anyway we’ll see what I find.

What On The Assembly Line?
Command Squad,
5X Vet Squads,
6X Chimeras,
A 2nd Hellhound,
A 2nd Leman Russ,
A 2nd Grot Missile Platform,
2 Grot Tanks,
A Manticore
And a set of Objective Markers.

All of which I can't wait to build. Especially the Doom-Vee Chimera which will be suprising cheap thanks to the 'Leman Russ Upgrade Sprue' GW have released for £6. Speaking of which...


http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/268/3/e/Name_A_Doom_Vee_by_Proiteus.jpg

Anyway I look forward to hearing your feedback and suggestions?

Thud
26-09-2009, 21:50
Great stuff!

I actually found, and browsed through, your old Grot Rebellion thread just a couple of days ago. I'm looking forward to seeing more of this!

deviceheretic
29-09-2009, 00:36
I suggest:

"Da Viktery of Da Grotletariatt!"
"Da Wrekkin' Wagon"
"Wheelz o' Steelz" - Playing off Stalin, the "Man of Steel"
"Grotbox!"
"Run de uvver way!"
"Bangbuggy!"

Proiteus
29-09-2009, 15:12
I suggest:
"Grotbox!"
"Bangbuggy!"

Sold, the others where too long, the name will be written on the armour plate underneath the front window so it needs to be short.

2 down 4 to go! :evilgrin:

Col. Frost
29-09-2009, 15:27
Grot tank names, this is surprisingly difficult!

"Grotgantuan"
"Grotinator"
"Orks R Bust"

Project looks amazing BTW!

Proiteus
29-09-2009, 15:43
Grot tank names, this is surprisingly difficult!

"Grotgantuan"
"Grotinator"
"Orks R Bust"

Project looks amazing BTW!

These are not names for the tanks there've all got names, these are for the chimeras aka Doom-Vees that are shown in the first post.

I do like the name Grotinator though :D

252nd Fire Dragoon
30-09-2009, 02:09
Aloha,
Perhaps The Morkanator?

Proiteus
30-09-2009, 21:10
Old Models, New Roles

One of the advantages of converting models is that they can easily be used as something else, as long as the model looks right for the role. Anyway I have two of my favourite tanks from the original army and I’m giving them new roles.


http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs50/i/2009/273/b/b/Grot_Rebellion_GAZA_Rokit_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

First off is the ‘GAZA’ rocket platform in the old codex it was a Basilisk but for the new codex it’s gonna be something different. At first it was going to be a Deathstrike missile launcher but I eventually decided not to do that as it just didn’t seem like it that small rocket could do the damage.

I now intend to use it as a Griffon Mortar as it perfect for representing the Grot bomb with is low strength and ability to re-roll the scatter dice representing the fact the missile piloted.

I also plan to some grot officers that will be gathered around a gaming table calling in air strikes to represent a Manticore, these will be made so that they can be changed allowing me to swap between the rocket platform and air strike scout.


http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs51/i/2009/273/9/c/Grot_Rebel_Little_Grot_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

Now ‘The Little Grot’ was by far my favourite but I’m unsure about the effectiveness of Hellhounds in the new codex, so here’s a question: Do you think I could use ‘The Little Grot’ as a Chemdog, surely a grot's cooking from a fast food cafe is bound to be highly poisonous and corrosive. Spraying enemies with the 'sunday special' lol?

Gyliore
22-10-2009, 15:29
Glad your bringing them back, I'm deployed to Iraq and felt it was a good idea to start my Grot Army hopefully I'll have most of the done by the time I get home. Thanks for the inspiration.;)

Bladelord
22-10-2009, 16:09
This is fantastic, and you've heard it before. ;)

Chem-dog? Of course, grot cooking can't be too healthy!

Naming suggestions:

"Monster Grot"
"Wreck-Smash"
"Lil Red Grot"
"Grotastator"
"Squig Cage"
"Grotrolla"
"Rok'n'Red"
"Grotgrinda"
"Bustwheel"
"Da Grot Roar"
"Ork Squasha"
"BOOM wagon"

Just some thoughts. :)

On a side note, you could scribble "LOOTAS WIL BE SHOT!" over the side of a vehicle.

Proiteus
22-10-2009, 22:36
on a side note, you could scribble "lootas wil be shot!" over the side of a vehicle.

fanatastic idea, i'll take it and paint it on the side armour of the 2nd missle tank like gaza's 'one small step' phase. :d

HK-47
22-10-2009, 23:57
Proiteus, I was one coolminiornot.com and they had a link to micro art studio ww2 goblins, which reminded me about this project.

You should check it out, maybe they can give you ideas.

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/goblins-troopers-soviet-p-287.html
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/goblins-generals-soviet-p-291.html

Proiteus
23-10-2009, 22:49
Little Grot Competitor?
I'm in need of a name for the 2nd Hellhound/Banewolf that matches up with the Little Grot Cafe. So far names I've though up are...


"KFC: Kuntuky Fryed Chaoz"
"Stargrots"
"Mc Grotnalds"

Anyone like to suggest alternative or pick a favourite?

Tzeen-Squirrel
24-10-2009, 16:55
Little Grot Competitor?
I'm in need of a name for the 2nd Hellhound/Banewolf that matches up with the Little Grot Cafe. So far names I've though up are...


"KFC: Kuntuky Fryed Chaoz"
"Stargrots"
"Mc Grotnalds"

Anyone like to suggest alternative or pick a favourite?

Don't forget Wimpy. You wouldn't even need to change that brand name, it already fits Grots.

Proiteus
03-11-2009, 10:44
Hi guys

My project has hit a wall, which that I can find a cheap set of wheels for my Doom-Vee.

The original model used wheels from a remote controlled monster truck from poundland but they've stop selling them and I can seem to find a suitable replacement in any of my neighbouring towns.

So does anyone know of anywhere on the web that I can get a hold of some cheap 40mm sized wheels (off a toy or seperately perhaps)

Deamon-forge
05-11-2009, 09:54
have you tryed going round a carboot or a charity shop for any toy cars? keep up the good work

Proiteus
06-11-2009, 20:07
THE UPRISING

Well the first page for the Grot Rebellion Uprising comic is complete. Keep a close eye for the other 5 pages as i explain how the Grot Rebellion began...


http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs21/f/2007/259/9/4/GROT_UPRISING_COMIC_Page_1_by_Proiteus.jpg

And keep your feedback and ideas coming as I need this army to be in top shape for when it put on display at the Miniatures Hall at Warhammer World on the 17th of January next year.

Proiteus
11-12-2009, 15:52
Here is our first update with some of the new models...

The New Rebelz
First models off the line are the standard troopers, I need to get all 40 of them repainted for their appearance at Warhammer World in January before I can start work on anything new.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/345/0/1/Rebelz___Grot_Squad_by_Proiteus.jpg

When the grots came out the foundation and washes were not out and I used drybrushing and watered down paint to complete the 'Original Models' (http://proiteus.deviantart.com/art/Grot-Rebellion-Infrantry-Squad-42372423)

I've become a better painter since I did the original models so I'm now after a more smoother and better quality on the models and I'm hoping I've done that?

The Blak Opz Agent: Grothopper
Another model that was completed rather quickly was 'Grothopper' some of you may have seen the Grot Ninja model from the original conversion that I used as an Eversor assassin.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/345/8/6/Grot_Blak_Opz_Agent_by_Proiteus.jpg

Seeing the new guard codex Marbo's rules were perfect for him so I quickly replaced his power sword with a demo charge and repainted him. I look forward to fielding him.

I hope you like these models, I'll have the new command squad done in the next few weeks.

can't_decide
11-12-2009, 16:10
Looks good. Grothopper is rather ninja looking and should be great for a "Marbo".

Ryofo
11-12-2009, 16:18
These look sweet, i loved my reble grot back in GorkaMorka days, nice work:)

Proiteus
28-12-2009, 12:13
Grotsnik Leader Of The Grot Rebellion

Behold the brains of the outfit Cononel Grotsnik, simple conversion done using the old Gorkamorka red gobbo and the old Commisar Yarrick's oversized hat. The perfect combo, add a few weapon changes and you have a great conversion.


http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/357/4/e/Cononel_Grotsnik_by_ranger1977.jpg
(Painted by Alex Garfield as a Xmas present for me, he's done the miniature justice)

the-skylord
28-12-2009, 15:38
That paint job certainly does do the model justice.

Have you seen these Goblin heads:

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/goblin-generals-heads-p-241.html

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/goblin-troopers-heads-p-242.html

They might help with your army of grots.

Proiteus
28-12-2009, 18:56
Have you seen these Goblin heads

Yes and if wasn't for their teeth I'd probably try them out. I just don't like it the look of them.

Col_Greif
30-12-2009, 19:21
Brilliant stuff!! I'm have been working on a grot/IG army myself a while back, but it has been in stasis for the last couple of years, but seeing your guyz makes me wanna do some work on them. I'd realy love to make a grot version of Guardsman Marbo and the bloke lugging a heavy bolter, Stone? I love your comic too :D

madd0ct0r
03-01-2010, 15:38
Should we be expecting a Grot-rigged Valkyrie?

(Perhaps with a reluctant trooper being booted out of the back?)

Proiteus
03-01-2010, 17:33
Should we be expecting a Grot-rigged Valkyrie?

(Perhaps with a reluctant trooper being booted out of the back?)

No that's just crazy.... but I'm currently working on building a Grot airship, using a rugby ball shaped dog chew toy :D

Proiteus
09-01-2010, 19:59
New & Improved

I was unhappy with the new grots skin detail, it seemed too flat and dark for my liking so I asked a friend for some help and recieved a lesson in 'blending'.

Now the grots look brilliant the skin is far better and they look like grots instead of small orks. Now for another 30.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/008/2/9/Rebelz___Improved_Grot_Squad_by_Proiteus.jpg

Black Legionaire
10-01-2010, 12:51
Im glad to see some evil armies rebel!!!!!!!!!

Proiteus
13-01-2010, 19:32
As always I like to have some themed objective markers in my army. For my 'Capture & Control' 40mm objective I first began looking at something that looked mobile like a small refueling tank or vehcile with a large banner on it.

In the end I decided to just use the original banner waver from the command squad, it's a fantastic model. I don't want to remove it from the army however I can't justify that banner being able to fit in a doom-vee door so an objective marker was the best role for it.
I've also added some smalled details like the grot and even Grotsnik's pet squig Commissar Nibbles.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/008/4/d/4dc96d197152c795eb8d9270a2724c59.jpg

Now to begin work on my Grot Agents/Ninjas who will be my 40mm seize ground objectives.

Max1mum
14-01-2010, 16:28
...what are my chances of being able to play agains tthis army ! ;-)

Brilliant idea,
Brilliant execution. I never would have believed that cadian plastics could be mixed so effectively with goblins....fantastic.

*signs up for updates*

Proiteus
17-01-2010, 20:18
Just to let you guys know, The Grots Rebellion including all the things shown on this log is on display at the Citadel Miniatures Hall
at Warhammer World; Nottingham along with my Renegade Machine Cult army for the next 2 months.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W2vhl5bYgdE/SfRuPiyHDaI/AAAAAAAAASg/goE9enbiC3w/s400/DSC00110.JPG

Dayspringer
18-01-2010, 02:25
I'll check it out next time i'm there!

Proiteus
20-01-2010, 21:56
I want to see more Grot Komiks!

If that is your wish :evilgrin:


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs19/f/2007/259/6/5/GROT_UPRISING_COMIC_Page_2_by_Proiteus.jpg

Proiteus
07-02-2010, 19:25
Heres the third page of the comic 3 to go. 2 of the characters have been made into miniatures already and the techgrot will be at the computer console on my Manticore.


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs20/f/2007/259/c/2/GROT_UPRISING_COMIC_Page_3_by_Proiteus.jpg

Proiteus
20-02-2010, 18:21
At first I had trouble on deciding on a objective marker theme, because the army was mobile I thought it be a good idea to make the objectives look mobile. I was going to do the servo-squig idea but that would require too much work, though I may try it at a later date.

In the end I decided to go with 5 grot ninjas that act as scouts for the rebellion, each one on a 40mm base acting out a scene to avoid them being confused an actual unit.

This is the first one called 'Dienamek Entry!' not bad for my first attempt at diorama.


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2010/051/c/8/c8558ed3ed51c4a242187ce3aeb32205.jpg
"Dem Ninjas are da best boyz in da rebellion, dey real fast and extremlee
sneekie dat and dey can fight real good, so I av'em look for enemies for da
rebellion to stomp!"

Definitely-Not-Ed
20-02-2010, 20:09
This is brilliant! It's humorous and original, I love it!
Consider me subscribed!
Also, could you have some Grots salvaging pieces from a Big Mek as an Objective Marker?

Deamon-forge
20-02-2010, 21:30
with Definitely-Not-Ed post about the grots salvaging pieces from a Big Mek, why not have a big mek being chained down or pined by a few grots and a few grots putting bits from the big mek into a bag? and a grot thats like slaping the meks face.......

Definitely-Not-Ed
21-02-2010, 12:49
why not have a big mek being chained down or pined by a few grots and a few grots putting bits from the big mek into a bag? and a grot thats like slaping the meks face.......

Oh god yes! That's genius! Could you have some ninjas doing that?

Happybug
21-02-2010, 13:21
That comic is great, it justifies the army as grots shouldn't be able to fight without orks.

But your grots are like space marine grots, which should make them about as capable as a guardsman. :)

Great comic! I want moooooar. 5 stars.

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
22-02-2010, 03:38
I might just have to make tribute models to DA RED STARZ to just sit on my desk and look menacing...

Proiteus
22-02-2010, 20:11
Heres my 2nd Ninja objective spraying propaganda on terrain. Not as exciting as the first one, three more to go!


http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/053/5/a/Grot_Ninja__Viva_La_Grot_by_Proiteus.jpg

Dayspringer
23-02-2010, 01:59
The pose looks great.
I just had a weird flash of some kind of unholy cross breed-a gretchin version of Jet Set Radio.

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
23-02-2010, 22:57
Do you just file off the fur on the arms and the spot where the tail is suposed to go?

Totenkopf
24-02-2010, 10:24
Maybe you should make a few of these, as allies http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/280727.page :P

Proiteus
25-02-2010, 13:05
Maybe you should make a few of these, as allies http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/280727.page :P

"nah! grotz don't need anyone" :D

Totenkopf
25-02-2010, 19:22
No grey knight grotz then? :'(

Proiteus
28-02-2010, 17:28
Grot Sergeants

I thought rather than uploading squad after squad I'd upload the different types of models. So here are the grot sergeants, I've decided to make the armour black like my the veterans from the first army so they stand out more.

They were going be armed with lasguns but I was lucky enough to find some old laspistols in my bits box.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/059/7/e/Grot_Sergeants_by_Proiteus.jpg

Now for the 10 Meltagunners.

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
28-02-2010, 18:43
Grot Sergeants

Now for the 10 Meltagunners.


only 10?! what kinda of Grot army is this!?

Proiteus
28-02-2010, 18:45
only 10?! what kinda of Grot army is this!?

Its a mostly tank army, these meltagunners are in the 4 chimera mounted vets squads.

Proiteus
05-03-2010, 20:34
No Guard army is complete without a Valkyrie or Vendetta, their a bargain for their points and can help a lot in game.

Sadly the valkyrie model looks to advanced technologily for the grots to use, so I struggled to create a suitable conversion to represent a Valkyrie using GW components.

I evenually created this airship using the barricade set and a dog toy which I was going to green stuff over. Then attach dreadnought engines for thrusters on the sides, add a lascannon and rear platform shown by the black templates. It was going to look fantastic especially with the mad grot pilot in the window.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/064/5/a/Failed_Grot_Airship_Conversion_by_Proiteus.jpg

HOWEVER it's far too small to represent a Valkryie since its less than 50% it's size, at first I didn't see a problem with this since it will be hovering above terrain. But then someone pointed out that it's size would have an affect in my opponent's shooting phase during measuring since it's small size would add extra inches to the range when a normal valkyrie model would be in range.

So I've decided to scrap it!

However I'm now thinking of creating something similar to this conversion http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/bucket_of_bcb/MD000952.jpg instead for the grots, a nice big kopta!

madd0ct0r
06-03-2010, 07:58
Well, the kopta is nice...

but the blimp is so lovely.
could you not build it bigger?

outrigger engines, more dakka, dual gaspods, rugby ball ect?

Proiteus
06-03-2010, 08:03
but the blimp is so lovely.
could you not build it bigger?

outrigger engines, more dakka, dual gaspods, rugby ball ect?

Yes but then it would be a pain to transport, especially since I'm already transporting 11 other vehciles!
Plus it's too small to act as a transport vehcile.

Deamon-forge
06-03-2010, 09:23
why not make the air ship but the big air ballon bit have it for its hollow and it comes apart in two. easyer to transport then, and it comes aprt from the main body. A air ship would look better than a heli tho IMO. as its less high tech.

Proiteus
06-03-2010, 17:56
Easyer to transport then, and it comes aprt from the main body. A air ship would look better than a heli tho IMO. as its less high tech.

Even if I went for a bigger balloon it would still be difficult to transport and a hazard on the board if someone knocked it over.

warboss tweed
08-03-2010, 02:59
you could do it, just as a different shape so it wouldn't be as precarious/

madd0ct0r
08-03-2010, 16:26
... and a hazard on the board if someone knocked it over.


much like the Valkyrie then? :D

You're right about it being too small to for a transport - maybe duckboards either side?

You could leave the blimp section as is, and add little rotors out either side of it to roughly the same distance as Valkyrie wings would go.
http://www.aiaa.org/tc/vstol/12.jpg

I appreciate you don't want a big thing to carry about, but you also want it to be the same size (in plan at least) as the valk. I'm not sure how to reconcile those 2 intentions.


Finally, carrying the idea of a blimp that splits in two further... could you have one where the lower, mechanical part can be packed inside the main blimp for storage and transport?

Proiteus
11-03-2010, 12:10
I was never able to completely finish the grot comic when I first made them due to uni coursework. But now I'm back on track with the 2nd half of the story, which will be done in time for their tournament appearance at Open War in May!


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/070/5/2/GROT_UPRISING_COMIC_Page_4_by_Proiteus.jpg

Proiteus
13-03-2010, 19:03
With all the monsterous creatures and mech lists running about I thought it would be a good idea to consider a full squadron of hydras; since 12 twin linked autocannon shots can be nasty.

Anyway whilst looking for a cheap conversion since I have to build a full squadron I came up with this model concept using bits I had lying around;

Basically put a shortened leman russ turret and the autocannon sentry bits together model add a small window on the front of the leman russ turret for a driver window and mount the whole thing on tracks, overall it could be a neat looking support tank. (see attachment)
But at the moment it's just a concept and I'm after some feedback from you guys to decide on wheather or not it will work?

the-skylord
13-03-2010, 21:40
Theres no reason why it won't work. Give it a shot and see what happens.

madd0ct0r
13-03-2010, 23:35
needs some guns


seriously, yeah, it looks sensible. if you want to avoid spalshing out try out the paper hammer blog. the templates work well with plasticard = ultra cheap tracks.

Proiteus
14-03-2010, 20:42
More Dakka!
I've done a bit more work on the dakka tank and mounted it on a city of death tile to give it a bit more height and added the heavy bolter and window, I've also included a small door on the other side.


http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2010/073/8/8/Grot_Dakka_Tank_Concept__by_Proiteus.jpg

I also saw what it looked like with the autocannon turret on at a GW store today and it looks like it could work, so I will most likely be building the dakka tanks in the near future.

More Grots!
Also I've finished another squad; this is what all the squads will look like one sgt in black and 3 special weapons. Someone also suggested I outline the marking with black so they don't just look like white blobs.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/073/d/f/Grot_Rebelz_Squad_2_by_Proiteus.jpg

Now all I need do is create the 5 remaining grot troopers armed with plasma and melta guns and that all of my 45 grot infantry complete.

Then I can start full work on the tanks!

Proiteus
19-03-2010, 19:38
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/078/0/3/Grot_Kommand_by_Proiteus.jpg

Well their back from Warhammer World, sadly I was unable to get a photograph of the Kommand Squad before they were put on display.

Again Colonel Grotsnik was painted by my friend Alex.

Vepr
19-03-2010, 20:51
Great stuff! Looking forward to a full army shot. :)

madd0ct0r
19-03-2010, 21:20
what's the little worried guy on the front right carrying?

I do love this army, oozing with character.

Gonfrask
20-03-2010, 02:40
Each time I like more this army

Hrokka `Eadsplitter
20-03-2010, 16:47
Great grotz! Won't you include some sentinels?

shaso_iceborn
20-03-2010, 17:07
VIVA LA GROT REBELUN!!!!

loved the first one and this one is coming along well as well. It's a shame about the airship though as it would have made a truly unique model.

Proiteus
21-03-2010, 22:13
Great stuff! Looking forward to a full army shot. :)

I've tried that time and time again, you need a high quality camera to achieve a quality full army shot.


what's the little worried guy on the front right carrying?

Ammo, lots of ammo :D


Great grotz! Won't you include some sentinels?

I've have them in the army the first was a small tank called little bugger that was later replaced with two deep striking sentinels with heavy flamer that I called Helicookas.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/270/b/d/Grot_Rebels_Little_Bugger_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs24/i/2008/083/a/8/Grot_Rebellion_Helicooka_by_Proiteus.jpg

Proiteus
24-03-2010, 16:17
HOW TO TRANSPORT THE REBELLION??

Does anyone know of a suitable way to transport this army since it has around 50 models and 12 Vehciles, I'm thinking of getting a thick 'plucky' foam tray that would fit in a GW case with an standard infantry tray on top. That way I could perhaps transport 72 models and 12 tanks in 2 GW cases?

I'd be grateful for any help in this matter?

Brother Alexos
25-03-2010, 19:22
I would suggest for the infantry to pack them into egg cartons, they work well enough for my Orks, and for vehicles, shoe boxes would help.

Proiteus
28-03-2010, 18:32
Well here is page 4 of the Grot Uprising comic...


http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/087/c/8/GROT_UPRISING_COMIC_Page_5_by_Proiteus.jpg

Very happy with how the explosion came out. 1 more page to go now, however it will be a while as I want to change one of the boxes on the last page to feature the Grot Doom-Vee and that can't be done until I've got one assembled and uploaded so the artist on can draw it.

Brother Alexos
28-03-2010, 20:37
Nice, I like how the Grots killed the warboss.

Meckboy
28-03-2010, 20:40
Hello,

Your Grot tanks just got Forgeworld miniatures, and rules!

Philbrad2's photo's

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae26/Azmondsphotos/Forgeworld/DSC02082.jpg

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae26/Azmondsphotos/Forgeworld/DSC02081.jpg

Cheers,
MB

NightAngel
28-03-2010, 21:12
Dam Forgeworld not thinking up their own stuff

Proiteus
28-03-2010, 21:29
Dam Forgeworld not thinking up their own stuff

True; people have been converting grot tanks for years, one even won gold at gamesday.

Anyway forgeworld is too expensive for my liking.

MajorWesJanson
29-03-2010, 14:37
If you are still looking for wheels, you may look into some of the Lego wheels.

Bricklink (http://www.bricklink.com/browseList.asp?itemType=P&catID=43&q=hard+plastic&sortBy=N&sortAsc=A)

This style has 4 different sizes, including a 35mm one.

NightAngel
29-03-2010, 18:50
Yes lego not silly megablocks

Proiteus
31-03-2010, 20:52
Da 1st WeirdGrot!

I'm planning to make a pysker battle squad for games of 1750pts because their always fun to play with. The whole squad is built using night goblin and empire wizard bits.
Once again my friend Matthew Green helped me with the green stuff sleeves.


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/090/c/a/Da_Weirdgrot_by_Proiteus.jpg

This guy was going to be used as an astropath so I painted him by himself. I'll complete the rest of the Weirdgrot Squad later in the project, after I've got some tanks built.

Kalsir
31-03-2010, 22:15
HOW TO TRANSPORT THE REBELLION??

Does anyone know of a suitable way to transport this army since it has around 50 models and 12 Vehciles, I'm thinking of getting a thick 'plucky' foam tray that would fit in a GW case with an standard infantry tray on top. That way I could perhaps transport 72 models and 12 tanks in 2 GW cases?

I'd be grateful for any help in this matter?
Maybe you could use Feldherr cases, they got cases big enough to store all of your units and as the foam trays are adjustable you can fit in models of any size. Well just take a look at their site.
Your models look great, looking forward to more weirdgrots :)
All of the models have so much character and the comic helps a lot to improve the feel.

Proiteus
02-04-2010, 18:37
Another edition to 1750pt games is an officer of the fleet aka 'comm grot'


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/092/0/9/Da_Comm_Grot_by_Proiteus.jpg

I did consider converting one of the grot ninjas with a radio since it would most likely be them holding up enemy reinforcement, but I felt this would confuse my opponent since they're already being used as my objective markers.

madd0ct0r
02-04-2010, 21:20
Damn Commies...

what's left for the command squads? the various specials (possibly), bodyguards, nork deddog (for fun play only), master of ordanance, spares of the above.

um, Primaris Psyker?

Proiteus
03-04-2010, 18:35
nork deddog (for fun play only), master of ordanance, Primaris Psyker?

I did think of orgyns for a while they would have metal plates covering the top of their heads with wires feeding into a large metal box where a grot would be piloting them. The end result; THE GROT MEAT TANK!
But their not at all worth their points so I'll that idea was scrapped.

I did think of converting a Primaris Psyker as some sort of insane grot being held down with chains as he floated around shooting lightning everywhere, but again he's not effective gamewise so he was scrapped too.

Anyway the only grots I'm thinking of now are the tank's crews and perhaps an rough looking infantry platoon made up of grots who have only just joined the rebellion and have yet to earn their Doom-vee!

madd0ct0r
04-04-2010, 12:37
you wot?

the primaris psyker is a great secondary HQ unit for smaller games.

attach him to a squad with low ld and keep them in the game


Ogryn are the best they've ever been. still not brilliant or even great, but i think they can hold their own now. just that pesky low leadership...

penal legion? (rubbish, but fun)
priest?
wee mek?

Proiteus
04-04-2010, 13:10
Well madd0ct0r this army is about the vehciles, the grots are small not stupid they know they can't take on an enemy man to grot so they rely on vehciles.

One recent idea I had for sentinels is SQUIG TANKS after seeing this conversion and how it reminded me of a squig...


http://th09.deviantart.net/fs36/300W/i/2008/263/d/0/Ork_Killa_Kan_by_Scammeleon.jpg

Nathan138
04-04-2010, 13:30
Wow that does look squigish, so are the grots stuffing orks in vehicles when they know the orks will get killed, kind of like what orks did to grots?

madd0ct0r
04-04-2010, 16:41
yeah. Ogryn could just be 'domesticated' nobz....



but back to the vehicles.

I thought you already had mini tanks for sentinals. I do like that idea though. very squigish.

I assuming by this point you're just slowly adding options for the fun of modelling and painting, not to create a specific army list and stop.

the artillery section? the Gretchin do have a certain affinity with big gunz.

I can see any of them working within the scheme, from the griffon to the manticore/deathstrike missile launcher.

the manticore is quite good, the griffons are great little nippy ordance and I've heard the colossus refferred to as 'reliable anti-tank'

there's always the superheavies, and allies from the WH and demonhunter lists.
fancy a (not very useful) Landraider in the grot army?

another option may be if the 'Kornel' is extending recruitment efforts to feral tribes befroe their ork population gets too high.


Stop me if this get's annoying.

Proiteus
04-04-2010, 18:48
Wow that does look squigish, so are the grots stuffing orks in vehicles when they know the orks will get killed, kind of like what orks did to grots?

No as I said it was inspired by that conversion, why would grots give an ork a vehcile?


I thought you already had mini tanks for sentinals. I do like that idea though. very squigish.

True it's just an idea but I'll most likely stick with the 'mini-tanks'


I assuming by this point you're just slowly adding options for the fun of modelling and painting, not to create a specific army list and stop.

The manticore is quite good, the griffons are great little nippy ordance and I've heard the colossus refferred to as 'reliable anti-tank'

No I'll continue to expand this army so I'll be able to field any type of effective vehcile combo, I did consider going for a full infantry army since the warhammer goblins are to be re-done later this year. However there are too many weaknesses so I'll stick with lots of vehciles.

I'm currently working on the manticore it a basic baslisk with the radar dish from forgeworld instead of the main gun with the grot mek from the comic controlling it, I've added small details such as tank parts and grot techboyz to show it's the mek's tank.

As for griffons I thought it be a clever idea to use the 'dakka tanks' and have it so I could swap the autocannon turret for a large mortar weapon.


http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2010/073/8/8/Grot_Dakka_Tank_Concept__by_Proiteus.jpg


there's always the superheavies, and allies from the WH and demonhunter lists.
fancy a (not very useful) Landraider in the grot army?

Never use superheavies so why make one, though I did have an idea to turn the baneblade into a mobile grot HQ with radar and heli-pad :D

Allies are a good way to expand the army, I've had ideas for some of the units...

Sisters - Grot Marines Though they're a waste of points at the moment)
Grey Knight Teminators - Grot Mechs If it wasn't for the high weapon skill I'd go with them, though I am considering the idea in the form of a small deathwing army with grots piloting looted terminator armour)
Mystics - Grot Tekboys One of the most used allied units I did consider having the Inquisitor from the comic with them but felt that some grots loaded with scanners would be more interesting.
Land Raider It would certainally be a challenge with all those weapons I'd probably convert it into a tank ressembling a battlecrusier



Stop me if this get's annoying.

Not at all I enjoy discussing my ideas :evilgrin:

madd0ct0r
04-04-2010, 20:54
Never use superheavies so why make one, though I did have an idea to turn the baneblade into a mobile grot HQ with radar and heli-pad :D






Sounds like a custom battlecase to me :D
Though that's bordering on leviathan sized.

Sister's aren't a brill addition to the IG admittedly (although the idea of Grot Marines is great)
Tactically, you could take St Celestine on her own. She gets to reincarnate if killed, but messes up the faith pool. If she's your only faithful unit then there's nothing to stop you kamikazing her again and again.

I've no diea how to model it though

warboss tweed
04-04-2010, 21:07
yeah the squig sentinelis not a bad idea, as squigs and grots do have a certain relationship. sparks is actually considering doing the same thing on his log, you should watch for it.

Proiteus
05-04-2010, 20:08
So what do you think would be best for grot sentinels; Squig Tanks or Little Buggers?

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs36/300W/i/2008/263/d/0/Ork_Killa_Kan_by_Scammeleon.jpg - OR - http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/270/b/d/Grot_Rebels_Little_Bugger_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

dood515
05-04-2010, 20:35
I think the little buggers are a better idea as they fit better with the whole guard-grot thing that rebel grots have going on.

Whatever year it is, I still don't think that walkers really fit with military-type actually still human type armies.(Guard)


- The dood

Nocturn
05-04-2010, 21:04
Hey :-),

Imo Squig tanks would look much cooler and more..dunno how to say..offensive? then the little buggers.
But dood has a good point, little buggers would suit better to the "wi captcha humie stuff 'nd look like them".
Personally, I would go with the squig tanks, though.

Noc

Gonfrask
05-04-2010, 23:41
Squig tank no doubt!

madd0ct0r
06-04-2010, 14:50
well, sentinals and squigtanks obiviously share a common ancestor.

the lil'buggers are cute and already exist

use them for armoured sentinals, and squigtanks for scouts?

FraustyTheSnowman
06-04-2010, 16:07
The buggies look good, but I've never been a fan of mini tanks standing in for sentinels. Biggest complaint is most people's mini tanks look like crap (not the issue here), next is using a tracked vehicle to represent a walker...yes there is definately worse stand ins used, but it does rub me the wrong way...

Proiteus
07-04-2010, 11:47
Okay then Squig Tanks it is. I'm even had the idea of wiring a squig into the hatch so the grots would have made a squig dread, but I'm probably going to with a grot pilot. But that aside...

THE GBH TANK
At last the grot rebellion are getting their tanks and the first one is the GBH Tank which stands for "Grot Bodily Health" or "Grevious Bodily Harm" depending on your situation lol, which will represent the Banewolf.

Originally I was going to make it another fast food tank like The Little Grot (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2010/027/1/1/Grot_Rebel_Little_Grot_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg) But early on I decided to make the army appear completely mobile; they've got food and the manticore I'm workin on at the moment is also the mek's workshop and this is their medical centre...


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/097/8/9/Grot_GBH_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

"Da Grot Doks r da best doks dey iz; dey make supa juice to make grotz stronger and da killest of poisons to kill da biggest enemies. It alwayz a gud idea to keep da doks nearby in da GBH tankz case a grot rebel loses a limb and needs a medik to sow it back on!"

I very pleased on how it came out especially the turret, I used an old white dwarf tutorial for the battle damage to make it looked used. Later this week I'll be adding a grot dok to go on the top of the tank behind the turret observing his nasty poisons at work.

madd0ct0r
07-04-2010, 14:09
How do you do those tracks?

FBI
07-04-2010, 16:54
Wow, just that.....wow......

Youzz just made me see grotz as a threath. gotta go kick some round da kompound.

Anyway, go show, i`ll be following the progress.

Metal Fingered Villain
07-04-2010, 17:41
I've personally always liked the idea of little itsy bitsy grot tanks, so I'll vote for that option.

Proiteus
07-04-2010, 19:53
How do you do those tracks?

There just standard chimera tracks but without the outer hull and only on the bottom half.

madd0ct0r
08-04-2010, 23:49
oh. never assembled a chimera before, didn't know they had that detail

Proiteus
14-04-2010, 20:40
Grot Militia
I recently got beaten badly by another guard mech army with an infantry platoon supporting them. So I decided to build my own little infantry platoon for the grots. Basically after grots join the rebellion and get given their injection of supa juice they have to fight on foot and survive long enough before they can be promoted and earn their wheels.


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/104/6/5/65488a3e14c1cdd0060b03187b1aab52.jpg

I decided to give them the appearance of soviet conscripts using high elf archer torsos and the old night goblin legs. As you can see their a bit smaller than the veteran grots.

But first I need to finish the units for the current list.

Gonfrask
15-04-2010, 00:37
I think the model works perfectly

madd0ct0r
15-04-2010, 13:54
yeah. Looks good.

You're going to be swimming in parts though

Proiteus
16-04-2010, 11:17
The Grot Tek Tank?
Well another tank has rolled off the grot assembly line, I give you the ‘Tek Tank’ that will represent my Manticore by calling in grot suicide airstrikes. Though I’m still debating on what to call it so feel free to suggest another more suitable name for it?


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/106/5/d/Grot_Tek_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

But it is currently incomplete due to the fact it’s missing it’s crew that I’m painting up at the moment. The Head Techgrot ‘Gazza Stripbolt’ (from the comic) will be working the console on the top of the tank with his assistant ‘stubbs’ behind him.

Cause a Manticore only has 4 shots I’ll have 4 tek boyz working around the tank one will be on the lower console and another will be helping himself to the tools, after each shot is taken I’ll remove a tek boy.

So it’s temporary back to painting grots as I’m now painting up the Tek Tank’s crew and the Squig Tank pilots.

NightAngel
16-04-2010, 13:29
the non super juice grots can easily be used as conscripts

Nocturn
17-04-2010, 18:29
...what to call it so feel free to suggest another more suitable name for it?


Proi, I think Mad answered your question there, but I am not sure, though.

Noc

Proiteus
17-04-2010, 21:13
Proi, I think Mad answered your question there, but I am not sure, though.

Interesting but there no more space for slogans so I need to keep it short.

FraustyTheSnowman
17-04-2010, 23:28
Da Grot Bomb Droppa
Da Air Strika

It's good to have the infantry backing up vets. Started playing my guard again after about a two year laps and I generally run two platoons with three autocannon squads and a mech platoon command (all flamers or two and an autocannon) to set back and take shots while the vets make their way across the field. Has worked well for me so far.

Nocturn
17-04-2010, 23:57
Hm don't know if it is too long or not, but

"Green Grot down"
"Black Grot down"

(would be sweet shortcuts, too, the "GGD" or "BGD")

"Grotshot"
"Down theere!"

hm..cannot get more names yet, maybe they inspire you.

Noc

Max1mum
18-04-2010, 08:36
...while sticking to the KISS principle : Grot-i-kore ? ( or Grotikore )

Proiteus
18-04-2010, 21:20
Da Air Strika

Ooo dat one :D

I've also had an idea to convert variants for the 'dakka tank'. One is the 'rokit tank' basically I'll use the heavy bolter turret from the razorback and add the hellstrike missiles from the valkyrie and use it as a medusa since they are very powerful and perfect marine killas.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/108/5/f/Grot_Rokkit_Turret_by_Proiteus.jpg

It's proving difficult to come up with an effective barrel based weapons.

Any Ideas guys?

madd0ct0r
21-04-2010, 17:25
take the ork big guns and extrapolate?


where do you source your heads from? I'm starting a squad of Cybork grots...

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
23-04-2010, 18:32
Heads seem to be from the Fantasy goblins box...

shaso_iceborn
23-04-2010, 19:34
Nice stuff here I still can't wait to see if the comic continues too!

Proiteus
25-04-2010, 19:52
I want moar comicS!

ps. everything is awesome as always :)

One more page to go but I want to update it first so that if features one of the new doom-vee's i'm working on.

Proiteus
26-04-2010, 19:44
Since some of you liked the idea of the squig tank so much, I thought I'd upload a preview....


http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/116/1/c/Big_Gun___Squig_Tank_Preview_by_Proiteus.jpg

I've been workin on these tanks for a while the one of the left will represent artillery tanks like the griffon mortar and medusa as well as the hydras, switching the main gun for the appropriate weapon such as the mortar weapon shown.

The Squig tank on the right is of course a sentinel which is still imcomplete, I was hoping to fit a squig on the base but there just isn't enough room to place one. So I'll create some squigs on seperate bases to run alongside them, they won't do anything gamewise but they'll add character.

With luck both tanks will be ready in a week and hopefully by then my doom-vee parts will have arrived if not I start work on my Thundersquig gunship.

shaso_iceborn
26-04-2010, 20:17
This army is starting to look very promising (ok started a long time ago but still) I really hope to see more.

Might I suggest making a "Valkerie" Airship ballon (just stay away from the name Hindenburg) It seems with your talent that the "Grotzenburg" airship would look cool.

Deamon-forge
26-04-2010, 20:20
thats a ace little tank very nice, and nice use of parts.

Proiteus
26-04-2010, 20:30
Might I suggest making a "Valkerie" Airship ballon (just stay away from the name Hindenburg) It seems with your talent that the "Grotzenburg" airship would look cool.

As I have mentioned before they'll be trouble regarding range if the Airship is too small (as my opponent can argue that he be able to hit a normal valkyrie plus it's ablity to transport a full squad) and the if the airship is too big it will be a hazard on board if knocked over and a pain to transport.

Trust me I would prefer it to the choppa but these problems just make it impossible to work out.

shaso_iceborn
26-04-2010, 22:08
As I have mentioned before they'll be trouble regarding range if the Airship is too small (as my opponent can argue that he be able to hit a normal valkyrie plus it's ablity to transport a full squad) and the if the airship is too big it will be a hazard on board if knocked over and a pain to transport.

Trust me I would prefer it to the choppa but these problems just make it impossible to work out.
Yes I remember and after measuring found out that a 16 ounce soda bottle would work best for a ballon then simply use the bed of a battlewaggon for the basket it is slightly bigger than a Valkyrie but looks good (mine is in prototype stages, Inspired by your log) I would be happy to post the finished product for you later.

Proiteus
28-04-2010, 20:17
Will The Grots Make It To Open War?
Since then I've aimed to have all my armies win best army at Open War and while the Darkmakers didn't win anything the Zanatorians won the 'Big Mek Conversun' Award and was put on display at Warhammer World along with the grots.

BUT with only a month to go the terrible thought has dawned that I may not be able to get the grots fully completed for Open War!
I've still got to complete the weirdgrot squad, 5 Doom-Vees, Thundersquig Gunship, Leman Russ, 2 Squig Tanks and 2 Big Gun Tanks.

I maybe able to get them completed in time because they're tanks and they shouldn't take long to build, however I'm just worried about the amount of practice I'll get in with them plus the level of detail.

So many people loved the grots at the first Open War as the table edge was very crowded so I feel obligated to bring an even better grot army to this Open War.

I'll continue to build the army but if it not up to the standard I'd like I might have to take the Zanatorians a 2nd time and save the grots for the Open War in October!


http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/f/2009/364/0/a/0a2456229b6b66303d033393d95fd6fd.jpg

NightAngel
30-04-2010, 17:40
I think you should do what you think is right

Proiteus
01-05-2010, 18:47
I think you should do what you think is right

Well in that case, the grots will be done at a later date as I don't want to ruin them.

Grot Ninja No.3
Well thats the 3rd and final grot ninja completed just 1 more to go and that will be all my objectives completed.


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/121/5/7/Grot_Ninja__Dere_Dey_Are_by_Proiteus.jpg

As I mentioned before these guys are the rebellion scouts they find the enemy and call in the main force. I enjoyed doing a base with a some life compared to my usual dry deserts and ruins.

Whether the grot ninjas return in the future to fight for the rebellion (with the exception of grothopper representing marbo) will depend on if any good assassin units are featured in the rumored codex Inquisition.

madd0ct0r
02-05-2010, 01:37
we live in hope.

is there not a useful point sink you add to the list?

manticore?
(Whisper it) Ogryn?

'Upgrade' a few vet squads to grenadiers?

Proiteus
02-05-2010, 20:33
manticore?
(Whisper it) Ogryn?

'Upgrade' a few vet squads to grenadiers?

Ogryns no, manticore; you just missed it: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4579912&postcount=127

madd0ct0r
03-05-2010, 12:25
well shucks.

how short from the points are you?

Proiteus
03-05-2010, 14:11
well shucks.

how short from the points are you?

Exactly 950pts, besides I don't wanna rush them, now I can take my time with each tank individually.

clansman
06-05-2010, 11:08
favourite army log I've seen so far, wish I had this idea!

Proiteus
07-05-2010, 19:29
The Squig Tank
Behold the Squig Tank! As you can see it represents a sentinel prefectly and features a jetback so that it can leap like a squig (a suggestion by my local GW store manager).


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/127/d/5/The_Grot_Squig_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

I plan to make 3 in total so I can tweak my army list, one of which will be launching itself into the air, the other will have horns.

Someone commented on how they look like tie-fighters and suggested I make a squadron of 3 and use it as a vendetta lol. But that should a little too crazy even for me. :D

Da Air Strika & Krew
Along with the squig tank I also completed most of the Air Strika's crew. (thanks for the name suggestion FraustyTheSnowman) It consists of Gazza at the controls, 1 Grot Tek and a Iron Grot Bodyguard. Just need to finish one more grot helping himself to the tools.


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/127/c/e/Grot_Air_Strika_by_Proiteus.jpg

Because the Manticore only has 4 shots rather than keeping a dice or token beside it I'll remove one of the crew. After the last shot Gazza himself will be removed; taking shelter within the tank after his job is done.

Da Ead Mek: Gazza Stripbolt
Another hero of the rebellion is miniaturized originally he was going to be just a night goblin with a few tweaks controlling the Air Strika Tank. However my friend Matthew Green saw Gazza from the comic and requested that I let him make him, and he did a fantastic job!


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/127/1/0/Gazza_Stripbolt_by_Proiteus.jpg

So much so I made Gazza removable from his controls on the air strika tank so if I ever need a platoon commander or a techpriest in my army I can use him.

Not sure what coming next since I'm still waiting for parts to arrive, perhaps the gunship?

Bladelord
07-05-2010, 20:30
Oh my, your latest updates are made of amazing and win. The jetpack equipped Squig tank is a legend in the making, The Grot Air Strike isn't shabby at all. And Gazza Stripbolt is so cool, to sound drunk. Your friend did a helluva job on him!

madd0ct0r
07-05-2010, 21:51
you know, a squig-tie-fighter as a vendetta is starting to make horrible sense in my head.

spacemonkey
08-05-2010, 01:26
Loving the squig tank. Can't tell from the photos but did you paint eyes on the side of the cockpit?

Lost Egg
08-05-2010, 09:20
I love the Air-Strika and her crew, very inventive and characterful!

HN

Proiteus
08-05-2010, 19:09
Loving the squig tank. Can't tell from the photos but did you paint eyes on the side of the cockpit?

No I want to give each squig tank a different paint detail this one has the teeth, the other one will have the eyes painted on the top and a mouth painted on the small plate at the front, I may even add horns.
I've still thinking on how to detail the 3rd any suggestions?

Proiteus
09-05-2010, 13:43
How Do We Get To Da Sky Boss!?!
No Guard army is complete without a Valkyrie or Vendetta, they’re a bargain for their points and can help a lot in game, so I plan to have one as a centre piece for the army.

So I’m trying to think of ways to convert one so it fits in with the overall look of the army using GW components.

My first idea was this airship…

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/064/5/a/Failed_Grot_Airship_Conversion_by_Proiteus.jpg

However the difference in size to an actual Valkyrie was far too great for it to represent one properly. People suggested I increase the size of the base or model but that would have made it difficult to play with or an accident waiting to happen if it was knocked over.

So far I’ve had 3 ideas on how to convert the Valkyrie for the Grot Rebellion...

Idea 1 – Da Uge Choppa
Due to the grot military like appearance a helicopter was the 2nd best option to a Airship, I found this conversion on another forum (this is the best pic of the copter despite it not having any blades but you get the idea).


http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/bucket_of_bcb/MD000927.jpg

The only adjustment I’d like to make is to add some small wings on the side below the doors and have the weapons mounted beneath them instead of on the sides, this would make it easier to have them magnetised so I can switch between valkyrie and vendetta. However because the corner is curved I can’t attach the wings very well. So where could I put the weapons.

Idea 2 – Da 2 Bladed Choppa
Several people suggested I convert the grots an Osprey, but I had difficulty finding suitable wings for the valkyrie. However anyone who has played Red Alert 3 will know the Soviet Twinblade gunship.


http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/cc_red_alert_3_conceptart_GQLwu.jpg

I feel it would make a great impacting centre piece model and will be very easy to convert; just mount the blades onto the outer part of each of the Valkyries wings with the small engines underneath with pipes and wires leading back to the main hull. Leaving room for the weapon mounts.

Idea 3 – Da Thundersquig Gunship
The first idea I had for the valkyrie was funnily enough a mini Thunderhawk gunship given how the grots would have seen one in action and thought ‘ooo dats killy, letz hav one!” and with all the Storm Raven conversions floated about I could make one for the grots?


http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9136/stormraven2.jpg

Well that’s my 3 ideas, this problems driving me nuts so I’d be grateful for you guys to tell me which one you think would work best?

shaso_iceborn
09-05-2010, 17:43
The Thundersquig!!!!!!

Hmmm I wonder which one gets my vote (insert sarcasm)

Proiteus
10-05-2010, 19:44
The Thundersquig!!!!!!

Sadly thats no longer an option anymore as someone raised a good point on another forum, first it's too high tech but more importantly converting a red gunship that looks like a thunderhawk will make people wonder why there is a blood angels unit in the army. Better to stay with a valkyrie conversion so I'm probably going to go with the twinblade based conversion.

warboss tweed
11-05-2010, 02:56
go for one of the helicopters, it fits with the military theme of the rest of the army.

shaso_iceborn
11-05-2010, 05:31
Hey man, I converted a airship based off your original idea it looks good but not as good as I would've hoped I hope your Heligrotpters come out awesome (though everything else has so why not)

Dr Zoidberg
11-05-2010, 07:30
The Squig Tank

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/127/d/5/The_Grot_Squig_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg


I love this idea. It took me half a moment to realise it the cockpit is the standard sentinel cockpit rotated and flipped. Absolute genius. Can't wait to see what eventuates on the aerial front.

madd0ct0r
12-05-2010, 13:25
well, you know where my vote lies...

but in the absence of a grot-tied fighter, helicopter all the way.

it's military and also orky.

shaso_iceborn
12-05-2010, 16:06
well, you know where my vote lies...

but in the absence of a grot-tied fighter, helicopter all the way.

it's military and also orky.

So doing the HeliGROTpter. I know it will come out awesome.

Proiteus
12-05-2010, 19:09
So doing the HeliGROTpter. I know it will come out awesome.

Which one? The one with the single blade or the duel one, cause that's the one I'm probably going to do?

shaso_iceborn
12-05-2010, 22:32
Which one? The one with the single blade or the duel one, cause that's the one I'm probably going to do?

Definintely dual as it looks more "orky themed" but yet can be para military like your grot force.

I am gonna try to make one as well (all credit goes to you for the idea though) I might even try a mark II of the airship as I have another idea for it using a old ork trukk bed for the "basket"

warboss tweed
13-05-2010, 03:20
the double rotor one looks much cooler, but it's also kind of fantasy looking.

madd0ct0r
13-05-2010, 10:13
other dual blade copters:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/upload/img_400/Chinook-lift.jpg


these were popular around christmas.
with careful work, you might be able to build a heligropter that flies!
http://www.rc-hobby-universe.com/electric-dual-rotor-rc-helicopter.html

Proiteus
13-05-2010, 12:46
Gorkil Nightrunna
Given how the other comic characters looked thanks to help from my friends Matthew and Alex, plus how the other ninjas had come out. I thought it was a good idea to go back and completely redo the assassin grot Grothopper (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/345/8/6/Grot_Blak_Opz_Agent_by_Proiteus.jpg)
He now has a much better name and cooler weapons such as the remote 'boomer bugger' which counts as a demo charge.


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/133/5/9/Gorkil_Nightrunna_by_Proiteus.jpg
"Gorkil iz da best grot in da rebellion next to da colonel, da boss gives im a mission and i'll do it without fail.
He's always getting new gear like iz remote 'boomer buggy' and 'Rippa Pistol' though he does luv iz 'slicer'.
Sum say he once took down a whole mob of ork kommandos one by one and dat he blew up an ork stompa.
All we know iz he da numbur 1 ninja!"

shaso_iceborn
13-05-2010, 16:01
Y'know I honestly got to say I preferred "Grothopper" for the name but expanding him to "Marbo" was awesome.

Bladelord
13-05-2010, 16:30
Go for the Twin Blade variant. RA3 was almost entirely to my taste (unlike the other C&C games), and it's obvoius you've got some red grotunists going. ;)

Great ninja, by the way! Boom-Bugger's splendid.

Max1mum
15-05-2010, 08:16
I just have to ask ;-) : what are your plans with the new Maticore/deathstrike kit ? ;-)

Proiteus
15-05-2010, 20:48
I just have to ask ;-) : what are your plans with the new Maticore/deathstrike kit ? ;-)

Sadly GW have killed off some of my creativity due to their 3rd price rise in the last few years, now I can just afford to get what I need and at the moment both the Air-Strika (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4579912&postcount=127) & GAZA (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3997026&postcount=15) tanks and even the dakka tanks (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4608936&postcount=142)can be made to represent any of the artilery tanks. Besides I'll never use a Deathstrike.

Plus due to the fact I'm still waiting for parts for the tanks such as the plates for the doom-vees, and some resin bolts to be restocked I'm focusing on infantry at the moment. Mainly the Grot Militia (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4574978&postcount=124)
The main problem is their size I don't want to be screwed over LOS by a small wall since they are even smaller than the grot troopers and will always be in cover.
So I'm trying to increase their height using some resin bases I used in a past project for the same problem (see attachment); I just need to decide on which to go for so far I'm thinking of either slate or ruins?

Here their full range of 25mm bases: http://www.back2base-ix.com (http://www.back2base-ix.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=92)

madd0ct0r
16-05-2010, 11:10
Ruins would suit the paramilitary look and dark grey goes nicely with dark red.

Proiteus
23-05-2010, 18:26
"Buldin A Doom-Vee Boss!"
Well all the bits for the doom-vee finally arrived on friday so I slapped one together with blue-tac for a preview.


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/143/d/d/Buldin_Da_Doom_Vee_by_Proiteus.jpg

First I'll say is the thing's a monster it's 4 inches wide, so I look forward to scaring my opponent by driving 5 of them across the board.

I had originally wanted to have windows that had raised borders, plus a small boarder for the wheels as well. (See da attached planz)
However the smaller parts are too rough around the edges and you need to cut at it with a knife to smooth it down, but that makes it even smaller. So I've decided to add just bolts to the wheel around the shield.

The windows however were a bit more of a challenge I had thought to use mesh but there is no space above the window due to the leman russ hull to glue it down. But after an hour of rummaging though my bits box I found a solution.
After buying two ‘Aegis Defence Line’ sets for the dakka tank’s autocannon turret I had a lot of barricades so I cut the window out and slapped it behind the hull. It was a damn near perfect fit.

One question I will ask is how should I detail the shields on the wheels paint the star or a skull? Because that skull is far too detailed for a grot tank.

Also for those who were with me at the start of the log and suggested names for the doom-vees to be labeled on the front plates, here are the winners...

"Grotbox!"
"Bangbuggy!"


"Rok'n'Red"
"Da Squasha"

Any suggestions for the command doom-vee?

Now I just need to get all the grot crews painted up and I can paint up the first doom-vee.

Proiteus
26-05-2010, 19:47
Grot Militia
When I first started remaking this army infantry platoons were not on my to do list as I thought vets were the way forward, that was till I got beaten by a guard army with 2 vet squads supported by 4 infantry platoons and realised their excellent for support. So I decided to make a grot infantry platoon aka the Grot Militia.


http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/146/b/2/Grot_Militia_Model_by_Proiteus.jpg

The idea is that these grots are still going through the change after taking the supa juice so they’re not as big or as dark as the grot troopers, plus their still currently be trained and have yet to earn the right to be part of a tank crew.
The leader of the grot militia is Grotsnik’s 2nd in command ‘Kaptin Squigscream’ who will be done later on in the project.

As you can see the grot militia model is very small so I decided to place it on a raised base to avoid being unable to shoot due to a small wall, besides they’ll be in cover most of the time anyway.

Looking at this photo I’m now tempted to go back and add more highlights to the grot troopers?

Gyliore
30-05-2010, 11:36
I have been following your army build for a long time. I'm currently serving overseas and when i get home in a few more weeks i'm beginning my Rebel Grot army, so many people out there have fun themed armies, thank you for the inspiration, if i see you around i owe you a drink.:cool:

Proiteus
30-05-2010, 17:56
Hoary there is posts agean for afew terifying days there I thought the thread had died. Thank goodness.

My Project Log Thread don't die until they are complete :D

le Mediko
30-05-2010, 21:37
Great work and great log!
I supported the Grots revolution years ago, but my own army is remained stuck after a few models.
Your conversion are really nice. Keep posting!

FraustyTheSnowman
31-05-2010, 19:40
Sorry if I'm not very up to date, the doom vee is a chimera right? I would say throw some random antani on the command tank then and call it good. Where did you get the wheels? I've been wanting to scratch build my own chimeras for quite a while, and I've been having a hell of a time finding good wheels...

Personal preference is for the ruins, though much of that is because you used slate last time. They both look very good.

Proiteus
31-05-2010, 19:51
Where did you get the wheels?

The first set of wheels for the orignal doom-vee were from poundland. But they don't sell them anymore. After much searching I found some cheap remote control monster trucks on ebay and got a deal for a set of 6 of them.

Proiteus
03-06-2010, 21:04
To Ya Tankz Boyz
Well I've finally completed all the tek boyz workin the Air-Strika. Since it represents a manticore which has only 4 shots I plan to use them as tokens; removing each one after firing each shot.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/154/9/2/Grot_Air_Strika_by_Proiteus.jpg
Heres a more detailed pic of them. Now and then I replace Grotsnik with Stripbolt and have him lead the army with his assistant 'stubbs' (the one with the wretch) who will replace the ammo runt.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/154/3/3/Gazza_Stripbolt__s_Tek_Boyz_by_Proiteus.jpg

Looking at the grot with the drill I feel my blending skills have improved greatly since starting this project. So I plan to go back and add a few more highlights to all the grot troopers.

Also... THE DOK IS IN!


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/154/7/7/Grot_GBH_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg

His hand is glued to the turret so that I can still rotate it round.

Pumpavius
04-06-2010, 05:48
This is just wonderful!

I love converted armies based on greenskins, and yours sir, is definetly in the top five!

Congratulations, awesome idea and awesome execution!

PS: When we will se more of the comic strip? hahaha

Proiteus
04-06-2010, 19:39
I love converted armies based on greenskins, and yours sir, is definetly in the top five!

PS: When we will se more of the comic strip? hahaha

Thanks, what are the other 4, and I'm afraid there won't be anymore comic till some of the tanks are done as I plan to include some in the last pages.

azhagmorglum
06-06-2010, 13:46
The mechani-grot is fabulous, and his tek boyz also. I like your conversions, especially the one with the "stop here" hand

le Mediko
06-06-2010, 17:12
Great!
I like both the tek boyzs and the Dok vehicle!
Very imaginative and especially well done!

NightAngel
06-06-2010, 17:38
Is that two hellhounds you have because you have the Dok one and the Little Grot as well.

Proiteus
20-06-2010, 19:52
UNLEASH THE DAKKA!
At last I’ve finally completed the Dakka Tank; representing a Hydra flak tank for those of you who can’t realise that due to the weapons. :D
First thing I’ll say is that turret is a right pain to paint and getting rid of the mould lines ain’t easy neither, so I ain’t looking to the creating the 2nd one.


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/171/f/7/f7d323876ff548c11f696cdb678cd559.jpg
“We got a problem ere, all r enemies av lotz of transports for dere boyz, plus
deres da big critters dat rip though r tanks like deyz nuffing, so we created
the ‘Dakka Tank’ to unleash lotz of powerful dakka on da enemy;
So look out boyz we’z gonna unleash the DAKKA!”

As for the tank I’m very pleased with it, especially the smaller details such as the ladder for the gunner and oil spill which I used to cover a slip up I made during painting. I added some resin bolts to the leman russ turret to give it a more sturdy look and replaced the original bridge for the two sides of the turret with an ork biker bit that has a small motor in the middle, perfect for powering the gun feeders.

Some people have expressed concern for the size of the model since I maybe taking the grots to the UK Throne Of Skulls tournament later this year. The tank is the same width as a rhino and with the turret is just a bit higher than a predator, so this shouldn’t matter especially as they’ll operate in a squadron so they’ll be easy to spot.
You’ll see more of this tank later on in the project as I’m planning to have alternative turrets for a Griffon Mortar and Medusa variant.

I’m now gonna start work on a much simpler model, the grot signature vehicle; The Doom-Vee, I’m working on two different types of mud caps for the wheels which I’ll upload tomorrow so I can get feedback on which one looks better.

Nocturn
20-06-2010, 20:19
Hey Proiteus,

the dakka tank is awesome haha, I love it :-) Nice details but I think the front shot and the left armour plate gives space for a freehand or some words, looks a bit empty imo. The grot mounted on the guns is funny haha :)

Well done,

Noc

wingnut7901
21-06-2010, 00:01
Love it! This looks really amazing.

shaso_iceborn
21-06-2010, 04:44
I might "loot" a few of these ideas but make them look more "looted" for my Ork army

Proiteus
21-06-2010, 19:49
Doom-Vee Wheel Cap Designs
I slapped together some wheel cap designs for the doom-vee today...
The one on the back wheel has a basic appearance with holes drilled around the center point. For the 2nd one I went for a more armoured look using some larger resin bolts from the same range as the ones I used for the dakka tank.
I used the side plate from the old doom-vee so I could see how it looks with the red hull. It's goes without saying which one looks better and will be the one I use.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/172/f/4/Doom_Vee_Wheel_Designs_by_Proiteus.jpg

Sadly a problem has come up that will slow down my Doom-Vee production. I've only just realised that the front port window & back storage frame for the leman russ doesn't come on the upgrade sprues I've brought!
I've tried other alternatives such as a glass and mesh window but it looks like I'm going to have to wait until I can get a hold of that certain bit from bitz websites. So far I have found one and have ripped 2 off my old doom-vee and leman russ. So hopefully you'll see the first doom-vee by next week.

'So how big are the rebel grots?'
I've been asked quite a lot how big the grot troopers are due to the guardsmen body. So I thought I'd upload this little line up for those who want to know.


http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/172/5/0/Grot_Size_Line_Up_by_Proiteus.jpg

I've also decided to rename the grot militia. Now they are know as Groundpounders! It's more of a greenskin name for mobile infantry.

madd0ct0r
21-06-2010, 23:57
those wheels are excellent.

looking forward to the vehicle itself.

Radical
22-06-2010, 19:52
Wow, I just read through this entire log, and all I can say is that this is amazing! Keep up the amazing conversions!. P.S. MOAR KOMIKZ

le Mediko
22-06-2010, 22:47
Like the Dakka very much!

Proiteus
23-06-2010, 21:05
P.S. MOAR KOMIKZ

Like I've said before; I can't post anymore comic pages out till the doom-vee is done as it will be featured on the next page and I will need to use the model as a reference!

Proiteus
25-06-2010, 18:59
DA DOOM-VEE IS ON DA WAY!
Normally I wait till a model is painted before I upload a photo of it; but since I was so pleased with how this tank looks I thought I’d upload a photo of it unpainted. Plus I’m busy all next week so I won’t be able to get it painted up anytime soon sadly.


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/176/a/a/Da_Grot_Doom_Vee__Unpainted_by_Proiteus.jpg

It’s pleasing to know that the army is going to feature five of these menacing looking vehicles. Armed with the ‘Afta Burna’ I mean heavy flamer under the driver’s window and a multi-laser turret to help my opponent recognize it as a chimera transport by using an actual chimera turret. In size they're just wider than a standard chimera by 5mm.
It features 5 fire points for the grots inside to shoot out of. I’ve also included a small look-out post on the top of the vehicle that will feature a different grot for each doom-vee.

As with all my conversion changes were made during the built. I chose to magnetise the ram so it be easier to transport. Plus I attached a step at the back due to the hull being too high of the ground for a grot to step in. I also added some detail to the blank front plate by adding some bolts and a searchlight.

Now all I need to do is trim the resin lines off the wheels so they won’t be highlighted when I dry-brush the sand and dust onto them. Someone suggested I use a mud mixture on them and although that’s tempting I would have to go back and do the same to the completed vehicles.

What’s your thoughts on the matter; should I add some mud detail or keep with my basic desert dust?

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
25-06-2010, 19:05
Im from the south, and we love our muddin!

What is muddin you ask?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9rX1yKQ_G0&feature=related

(this IS NOT me BTW)

Dreffbuilder
25-06-2010, 21:11
One word! (or perhaps two!) Small, but Awesome stuff Mate! :)

Cheers,

Dreff

NightAngel
26-06-2010, 16:39
Doom-vees, because walking into battle is for poor people

shaso_iceborn
26-06-2010, 20:10
Doom-Vee, Making speedbumps one enemy at a time

Proiteus
26-06-2010, 20:21
Doom-Vee, Making speedbumps one enemy at a time

FANTASTIC I MUST USE THAT SLOGAN FOR THE DOOM-VEES! But sadly there isn't enough space on the tank to write such a long slogan, maybe I'll use it in the next page of my comic?

rcal13
27-06-2010, 02:26
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http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/143/d/d/Buldin_Da_Doom_Vee_by_Proiteus.jpg




where are these wheels from? They are exactly what I need in my orc army

Proiteus
27-06-2010, 09:42
where are these wheels from? They are exactly what I need in my orc army

A cheap remote control monster truck from a pound shop.

NightAngel
27-06-2010, 10:33
Hay cool you've put some VC sceleton shelds on the weels.

shaso_iceborn
27-06-2010, 17:43
FANTASTIC I MUST USE THAT SLOGAN FOR THE DOOM-VEES! But sadly there isn't enough space on the tank to write such a long slogan, maybe I'll use it in the next page of my comic?

Make a banner, A banner bearer holding it riding on the boss doomvee would work or even just a banner flowing from the rear end. could easily be made from a bit of old t-shirt painted with watered down elmers glue and then shaped to fit. That way you could paint it how you want first. (paint it before the watered down glue)

Proiteus
27-06-2010, 22:22
Hay cool you've put some VC sceleton shelds on the weels.

Those were just for the mock model, there far too detailed for a grot to have done them. Problem I'm having at the moment is removing the mould lines off the rubber wheels, it's proving difficult due to the pumps and raised surfaces but I can't drybrush them until thats been done. Or else the mould line will stand out?!

shaso_iceborn
28-06-2010, 01:22
Those were just for the mock model, there far too detailed for a grot to have done them. Problem I'm having at the moment is removing the mould lines off the rubber wheels, it's proving difficult due to the pumps and raised surfaces but I can't drybrush them until thats been done. Or else the mould line will stand out?!

gently use a heated wire to remove them it works great on rubber as it "melts" the lines slightly into the model.

On a side note when I come to the UK next yr I am definately coming by Lincoln so I can see these in person (if not have my orks slaughtered by them)

Victim
28-06-2010, 07:23
All I can say is wow, your theme is excellent (original and therefore refreshing), you've done loads of ground work (not just jumped in hopiong for the best), and you've done everything to an incredibly high standard. Slightly green with envy at your skills, but at the same time inspired. I'm based in Nottingham (just up the road from you...sort of), do you get much of a chance to get to Warhammer World. If so give us a shout, I would dearly love to see your minis first hand...they're worth a good look.

madd0ct0r
28-06-2010, 16:03
Doom-vees - meet your new flat mate!

Proiteus
28-06-2010, 19:24
I'm based in Nottingham (just up the road from you...sort of), do you get much of a chance to get to Warhammer World. If so give us a shout, I would dearly love to see your minis first hand...they're worth a good look.

Well I plan to take the grots to three tournaments at Warhammer World this year after their completion; the first is the GW Yorkshire tournament in august where all 10 stores will duke it out.
The 2nd will be the CGN Open War in October where the grots were a hit last time. Lastly will be the Throne Of Skulls Tournament where I hope to get the attention of the white dwarf team, though it's unlikely they pay attention to events these days.

But for now I have a problem...

WHEEL TROUBLES!
During the weekend I attempted to trim the mould lines off the Doom-Vee wheels but I found out that’s far from simple. Due to the arched shapes of the details it hard to get a clear cut on the lines. Using a knife is hard because of the rubber; if I’m too light it doesn’t do anything and if I press to hard I cut the wheel.



Notice the mould line going down the centre of the wheel…
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/143/d/d/Buldin_Da_Doom_Vee_by_Proiteus.jpg

It’s frustrating that I can’t get rid of all the mould line because it will be easily highlighted when I do the dust effects with drybrushing.
I do love the look of those wheels especially with the armoured caps. I’m still experimenting with the 6 spare wheels I have but if I can’t clear the mould lines I’ll have to find another type of wheel to use.

Any suggestions guys?

madd0ct0r
28-06-2010, 21:05
Strings of jewellery chain wrapped around the wheel for more grip.

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/stores/auto/detail-page/XB-16chain.jpg

one of the strands just happens to go over the mold line.


that or take a ciggie lighter to them.

shaso_iceborn
28-06-2010, 22:34
I like the chain idea, but think it would take away from the concept of the army. a heated metal wire 9heated by ciggie lighter) works

Proiteus
29-06-2010, 18:43
A heated metal wire 9heated by ciggie lighter) works

I'll try that, but if that doesn't work I'm going to need more simple wheels.

I'm starting to see that this problem is due to the fact I've chosen a very complex wheel design and as a result the mould lines are very deep, plus the studs and raised areas get in the way.

Here’s a photo of the dry-brushed wheels, now they look fantastic from a distance but as soon as you look closely the mould lines are easily noticeable despite my attempts to remove them.


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/downloadAttach/45543.page

I also dry-brushed one of the old doom-vee wheels so that I could see if the vanish spray would leave a shiny coat on the rubber. When comparing the two I think I maybe better off with a simpler wheel design in the long run both for getting rid of the mould lines and dry-brushing?

What do you think?

Victim
29-06-2010, 19:22
What about completely removing the centre line for one wheel until the zone is smooth, add filler as well. Then put the rivets and ridges back with green stuff. Once you've got one wheel, cast it. Its extreme but at least your mould lines would be gone and you'd have a constant supply of wheels for all your doom-vee,/vehicle needs.

shaso_iceborn
30-06-2010, 04:07
FANTASTIC I MUST USE THAT SLOGAN FOR THE DOOM-VEES! But sadly there isn't enough space on the tank to write such a long slogan, maybe I'll use it in the next page of my comic?

btw if you're asking permission just do it.

Proiteus
05-07-2010, 10:35
Well my attempts to remove the mould lines have failed. Heating up the knife with a lighter didn't seem to make any difference. Plus although the chain idea is good I don’t think it would look right.

So it looks like I need to get some different wheels, I did come across some wheels in a pound store that seemed ideal (their pattern is displayed in the corner of my last pic and their resin line is well hidden). However it’s in another city so I need to make a trip to get them.

madd0ct0r
05-07-2010, 13:28
try here:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227319&page=2

Proiteus
10-07-2010, 13:38
“Diz Tank Make A Much Bigger Boom”
3 things to go through in this post first is the new tank fresh off the lines; which is the ‘Battle Bruzer!’

Back when I originally made the grots the Leman Russ was the most difficult tank to come up with a good conversion for. I want to convert everything so I tried to do a half track using a pair of shortened chimera tracks and a large pair of wheels and it failed.
The tracks turned out to be too long so I had no where to fit the wheels on, however they were just the right length to replace the leman russ tracks themselves.

In the end it worked out a lot better as it gave the tank a better feeling of bulk and I much prefer the shape of these tracks to the original.


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/191/0/e/Da_Battle_Bruzer_by_Proiteus.jpg

At the moment I’ve just built the basic setup I’ll come back to do all the different turrets and sponsons at a later date. The sponsons will be the same as before; mounted on the track guards like turrets like the old one below(notice the holes in the new one).


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs19/i/2010/191/7/e/Codex_Battle_Bruizer_by_Proiteus.jpg

“Get Da Dakka Tank To Pull Diz Bitz”
I took the Dakka Tank to my gaming club last week and while they loved it they couldn’t help but be concerned with its size.

True it’s only a few mm shorter and slimmer than a Basilisk, but it is still half the size in length. Someone then made an ingenious suggestion to add a little trailer to it therefore increasing it to the correct length.

So I went back home that evening and created a trailer using my old ‘Little Bugger’ tank that was no longer needed due to the Squig tanks representing the sentinels now. (see attachment)
I’ll probably insert something into the hole at the front to add height to it as well such as banner or something.

“Diz iz when we go to WAR”
The Grots will be entering several tournaments this year, the first of which will be the Yorkshire doubles tournament on the 24th of next month.

It’s 900pts per player so I need to get 3 Doom-Vees, 1 Hydra and 2 Squig Tanks done for it, which is why I’ve saved the Battle Bruzer’s weapons for later.
My partner is a Blood Axe player from my gaming club who’s army has a military appearance with blue camo and looted chimeras (it was the only army that would look right next to the grots.


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z158/the1stpip/Blood%20Axes/Kommandos.jpg

His boss is Grotsnik’s Rival and Best Enemy who will appear later in the comic. So for this one time they’ll be teaming up with his 3 Battlewagons, meganobs and Mek and my 3 doom-vees and troopers to kill sum humies!

But the real funs begins at these tournaments where I’ll field the whole might of the rebellion…

16th Oct – Gobstyks Lincolnshire 40k Tournament
30th Oct – 1st Company Vets Open War XIV
20th Nov – GW UK Throne Of Skulls


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/180/0/b/Grot_Icon_by_Proiteus.gif

DA GROTZ R
GOING TA WAR!

madd0ct0r
13-07-2010, 10:41
hmmm, little bugger does need more height.

mass piles of ammo boxes?

Proiteus
13-07-2010, 19:20
hmmm, little bugger does need more height.

mass piles of ammo boxes?

I thinking of using a grot waving a banner on the 1st one thats carrying supplies and a sign for the 2nd one which will be a fuel tanker.

Proiteus
17-07-2010, 11:20
REV UP DA DOOM-VEE BOYZ!
Well here it is a long last, the grot rebellion’s signature vehicle; DA DOOM-VEE!


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/198/8/d/Da_Grot_Doom_Vee_No_4_by_Proiteus.jpg
“One of da best tankz we built waz da Doom-Vee, in it grots could shoot
orks and beakies up close without fear of gettin stomped. It az menee tools
for killin such as da ram and aftar burna plus it’s killy lazer turret.
So look out Orkz cauz ere comes da Doom-Vees!”

I was concerned with the wheels both because of how they looked when drybrushed and the mould lines; even though real wheels would have mould lines this is a hobby where mould lines are seen as a bad thing so it was frustrating not being able to remove them.
But seeing it now they’re not as bad as I thought, what do you think?

Since this was the first vehicle I went with No.4 as it won’t be used in half my army lists and therefore any mistakes in it’s construction would be corrected in the other 4 doom-vees including Grotsnik’s.
With that in mind I when with some basic fuel tanks and an ammo crate. All Doom-Vees will have a different set of cargo and a look-out grot all of which would have to be very well done because while the grot troops are in the vehicles these grots would be on the board and visible all the time (or until the tank gets blown up).
This Doom-Vee will have a grot armed with a looted plasma pistol riding in the look-out to represent the plasma armed vets inside. But since he’s still being worked on and I wanted to upload the doom-vee today I decided to use this one instead, as you can see the ride has been a bit too rough for him.

Well what do you think to the Grot Signature transport?

Also sadly because my friend can’t afford to go with his blood axes it doesn’t look like I’ll be going to the Yorkshire Doubles tournament with the Grots. However this is sort of a good thing as it means I can take my time to complete the grots especially since I’ll be going to the Throne Of Skulls tournament in November, I got my ticket yesterday, and I’m after that trophy with the paint brush. :D

madd0ct0r
17-07-2010, 11:58
mold lines were the first thing i looked for, but only becuase i knew.

I think it looks fine, there's always going to be a slight line in the recess becuase of the change in angle, and you've got the upper parts perfect.

the rebellion rolls on.

shaso_iceborn
18-07-2010, 02:51
I miss my slogan: "Doom-Vee, Making speedbumps one enemy at a time". but other than that awesome.

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
18-07-2010, 03:45
Mold lines were also the first thing I looked for, but the studs on the wheels are so eye catching I think it really focuses the viewer's attention on them instead.
Great execution!

Proiteus
18-07-2010, 18:53
Mold lines were also the first thing I looked for, but the studs on the wheels are so eye catching I think it really focuses the viewer's attention on them instead.
Great execution!

Thats good to hear, thanks.

Pumpavius
24-07-2010, 16:29
Great stuff!

And don't worry, the mold lines are just a minor thing, the whole model is so cool that complaining about them is just being silly!

Keep on this greta work!

Proiteus
25-07-2010, 19:19
Raising The Bar!
Now that the Grots are going to the Throne Of Skulls tournament I’ve become even more picky about my models. As a result I find myself spending even more time working on a single tank or model and even just a much time looking at it.

It’s constantly frustrating to know that while I can create fantastic conversions that are full of character I’m still held back by my painting skill.
We saw at the start of the log how one of the grots can look when done by a skilled painter and how my level of painting paled against it.


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/078/0/3/Grot_Kommand_by_Proiteus.jpg

While I’m pleased with the tanks there are still many models that I’m unhappy with now, such as the veterans who skin still needs improving so I’m going to go back later and redo it.

One of my mates even suggested that I enter the Golden Daemon Open Category with the grots. Though none of the models would stand a chance of winning he thinks that if I create a fancy display board and enter the entire army I could win or at least be noticed by White Dwarf. Personally I think he aiming a little too high?

Anyway look at what I found and dusted off; the first grot rebellion pics back when they were just an idea I had come up with during my first year at unit. Man my modelling was appalling back then.


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/118/a/1/Grot_Military_Squad_by_Proiteus.jpg

and the painted versions again poor work. Back then Colonel Grotsnik was Commiezar Gobstyk named after my gaming club but due to legal reasons I had to change it.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs10/i/2006/126/d/c/The_Grand_Grot_Army_by_Proiteus.jpg

Dasqueek-Master Assassin
25-07-2010, 22:18
I'm doing my grots just like standard soldier 1. I just love how they look with spiked helmets

Proiteus
29-07-2010, 21:29
"Da Bitz Wagon Iz All Hooked Up Boss"
As I mentioned in a previous post; while the Dakka Tank is technically the right height and width it is still too short in length.

But then someone at my club made an ingenious suggestion to add a little trailer to it therefore increasing it to the correct length.

And here it is...


http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/210/2/1/212563c4d29b1fec6e07069f149e4738.jpg

I'm very pleased with it as it's made the tank even more unique looking.
As you can see I've added some extra bits and details to represent it being a storage wagon, I've also added a flag for purposes of it being fair for 'true line of sight'.

Tommorrow The Squig Tank MK 2 Arrives!

Hrw-Amen
29-07-2010, 23:52
Fantastic, the Dakka tank is brilliant.

You mentioned a few days back about painting versus conversion. I feel i have the same problem, I love making the models, designing them, but my painting whilst good enough for gaming standards and better than a lot i've seen is nothing like I'd like it to be. Your's looks fine to me though, so keep up the good work.

I also read about your problems with the tank track length for the Russ conversion and having nowhere to fit the wheels when making it a half track. I'm not sure if you have seen my own project log, but I made an Ork Gunwagon conversion using a Chimera where I pulled the whole chasis forwards by a few centimeters. I then extanded the back, (For the gun platform.) and so could fit the two wheels, (Off the Ork Trukk kit.) to the front. It is about the same size as the FW gunwagon. The pictures are on my log if you want to see.

But keep up the good work.

Dhark
30-07-2010, 14:25
Your work is truly amazing . I love your Dakka-tank. It looks like it just jumped right of the fantasy of a grot-mek.
Your rebellion is really inspirational. Actually it did inspire me to start my own ;) I started last year a thread on a German Forum, if you are interested to see (http://www.gw-fanworld.net/showthread.php?t=132902).

Keep up the great work. I look forward to see more of yor Rebellion.

Dhark

Proiteus
31-07-2010, 18:50
"Watz Dat Komin Over Da Ill?"
The 2nd and 3rd Squig tanks have been completed and unlike the first one they weren't rushed, slapping the basecoat on ruined the first Squig tank. (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/127/d/5/The_Grot_Squig_Tank_by_Proiteus.jpg).


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/212/2/9/Grot_Squig_Tanks_by_Proiteus.jpg

As you can see I've done a lot more with the bases this time and I intend to add a small Squig running alongside 'horny'. Along with the more detailed bases I've also added some extra bits to the Squig tanks themselves.

The white painted jaws on the first one didn't feel right, this was a tank for scouting even the grots ain't that dumb! Besides the horns and metal mohawk look a lot better, if I get the time I'll remake the first one and have the teeth as metal plates that have been bolted on.
There are also little details such as the front lights under the main body and the kill score on the left beneath the gun plus the driver of the jumping Squig tank’s eye patch. I felt it was necessary to have at least one jumping to show they had more in common with the Squig than appearance. I did consider having the jumpback firing but it’s rare for such modeled effects to look good.

Now all that’s left to do build before the doubles tournament is the 2 doom-vees one of which will be the command vehicle. Plus Kaptin Squigscream!

FrankieKhainor
31-07-2010, 22:03
You should have a little grot hoisting ammo over. Epic. I can't think of a better word so it'll have to do.
You said tomorrow! What time do you call this! I await squig tank mk2 in pain!

Pumpavius
02-08-2010, 08:16
Just awesome!

I love the squigs, and when you take one, turn him into a 12 foot tall walker vehicle with guns on it controlled by a grot with bad attitude... you just can't get meaner than that! (at least till you do a Squig-titan!)

Proiteus
04-08-2010, 20:40
Da Boyz Need An Outpost Dey Do?
I've ran into a bit of trouble, I found myself in need of another chimera. However I've only got enough doom-vee parts left to make another 4 and to be honest I'm not up for scavenging more of those wheels and side panels for a 6th vehicle that will be only used in 1750 games.

But I've had an idea; this chimera is designed to be more of a bunker as it will contain a vet squad with a missile and 3 grenade launchers and camp on an objective at the back of the field while providing support.

So the answer is simple create a mobile outpost for the grots. All the other big tanks are designed to be vehicle first and base second (such as barracks, medical centre and tech lab). Now I find myself wanting to design a tank that is base first and vehicle second something that the grots would send out and deploy as an outpost.


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/thumb/3/38/Elephant_1up.jpg/600px-Elephant_1up.jpg
(something like this but not so big)


So far I’ve come up with one idea which is to build a small bunker on the top of a chimera above the hatch behind the turret and use the leftover leman russ sponsons to create add-on bunkers that can be placed on the side of the vehicle. Add a few searchlights, a comm array and a flag and you’ve got yourself a grot base. Should the tank need to move it’s only natural that a grot would leap for the driver’s seat and floor it leaving the attachments behind.

Either way it should be a fun and interesting tank to build, so what do you think to idea, is it creative or just a little too crazy?

theimp
04-08-2010, 21:16
Either way it should be a fun and interesting tank to build, so what do you think to idea, is it creative or just a little too crazy?

It can't be both? I say go for it. Though I think the Chimera is too small to base this on, even for grots. Go all the way and get a Baneblade.

Lawkeeper
04-08-2010, 21:49
No!! The heresy of the thought alone..

madd0ct0r
05-08-2010, 12:13
just having tracks would make it look solid and slow compared to the doomvees.

you could make it a harvester/bulldozer of some sort.

Da Refinery - Taking der blows and blowing da steel, for Da Rebellion

Proiteus
05-08-2010, 19:31
Da Refinery - Taking der blows and blowing da steel, for Da Rebellion

Or Da Rig: Dey smash it, we snatch it!

I was thinking about something like this this but with normal guard tracks with extra armour on the sides using plasticard to copy the FW designs and adding a lookout deck on the top at the back?
Of course I'll use the standard chimera turret as it is the best way to identify the tanks for what they are.


http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa158/CreepyBasementStudio/Korsk%20Silent%20Company/Korsk041.jpg

However I've been thinking today that I might be going a little bit too far with this conversion idea. It's one of my golden conversion rules to never make things complicated and confusing for my opponent, and having 2 tanks that look different but represent the same vehcile seems to be just that, even if I'm using the chimera turret on both of them.

If it weren't for the fact this tank is being built for use in a 1750pt tournament at Warhammer World I'd do it, but with it being competitive I'm having my doubts about creating it? What do you think?

madd0ct0r
05-08-2010, 19:56
it would make more sense as a heavier tank. it's not as though the IG lack those.

um. Doomvee, but with two triangular sets of tracks instead of wheels (similar to your 1st pic)? it would look much closer to the Doomvee, and thus less confusing

ChrisMurray
09-08-2010, 12:57
That big tank picture you posted up reminded me of one thing, Ork kill krusher tank! With a bit of conversion work would make a great command base.

Proiteus
11-08-2010, 21:14
Mobile Base Scrapped
Sadly like the Airship I've had to scrap it, mainly for two reasons:

First was my concern about confusing my opponent so I asked my fellow conversion fanatic and greenskin rival for his opinion at my local club, he said I should stick to the Doom-Vees as they're brilliant conversions and having 7 on the board would look awesome.

Second and most influential of all was that I discovered that the current Leman Russ window plates are bigger than the old ones last night when I was building 2 more Doom-vees. The window is bigger and the plate is 3mm longer than the old one that I used for the first Doom-Vee. This means that one Doom-Vee will look different to the other 4.

So I’ve decided after the doubles tournament to alter the first Doom-Vee for long range combat; this means changing the flamer for a heavy bolter, replacing the crates with a missile silo and having a grot sniper in the look out point. I’ll also try and find one of the old curved dozer blades to go on the front instead of the ram. This way the smaller window won’t be an issue and the five Doom-Vees at the front which I use more often will all look the same.

Upcoming Stuff
Here some stuff that I'm working on at the moment while working on the Doom-vees...
First is the Dakka Tank variant turret 'The Mega-Lobba' which I will use to represent a Griffon Mortar, built using an ork big gun base, steam tank cannon, sentinel searchlight (for the cannon hatch) and a few other bits. The grot was going to go on a doom-vee but he suits this tank a lot better.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/223/c/5/Grot_Previews_by_Proiteus.jpg

The second is a special objective marker which is not yet complete but will serve and important role in the army; any guesses? :D

Proiteus
12-08-2010, 20:52
"NO MORE WHEEL TROUBLE BOSS, WE'Z GONNA MAKE DEM ARD!"

AT LAST AN END TO THE MOULD LINE PROBLEM! A friend offered to remove the mould lines off the tires for me, but even he was driven crazy due to their rubber texture. So we began discussing alternatives this evening at my gaming club and we eventually came up with a solution!

Since the rubber tires were going to be so much trouble, we thought it might be a better idea to remove them and add plasticard plates to the wheel instead. This idea was inspired by my greenskin rival's scratch built battlewagon wheels (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z158/the1stpip/Blood%20Axes/Battlewagons/BattlewagonNo110.jpg). So basically all of the Doom-Vee's we have wheels like the ones on the old ork battlewagons and painted a dark shade of metal. (shown below)


http://demonwinner.free.fr/uk/1991/UK%201991%2040kvehicle%202%20Adrian%20Wink.jpg

This solves so many problems; drybrushing will be easier on a flat surface, no need to glue the tires into place plus they make the vehicles look even more hard and orky, I mean groty :D

madd0ct0r
13-08-2010, 14:22
dear lord that's a lot of yellow.

hope the wheels work.

Pumpavius
15-08-2010, 02:10
Great idea!

I think they look already awesome, but it's good to know you will make them even more groty. You always can add more dakka :D

Raubmord
16-08-2010, 02:26
I'm in love with Stripbolt and his Tek-Boys :D. Keep on the good Work!!

Proiteus
24-08-2010, 20:34
Dez Wheelz R Dead Ard
Well the grot rebellion is still going guys and they’ve had their first piece of action today.

But first as you all know I’ve been having some troubles with the rubber wheels I originally brought for the doom-vees; such as removing the mould lines and dry brushing the dust on them. I eventually came up with a alternative solution which was to replace the rubber wheels with armoured plates, just like the old Ork battlewagons.
Well it took all Sunday afternoon & evening to create all 36 panels and I only just managed to complete the 2 doom-vees at 3 this morning ready for the doubles tournament today.

Here they are modelled on the Command Doom-vee; extra pts for the personal who can tell me what the Ork glyph means?


http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/236/8/1/New_Arder_Wheels_by_Proiteus.jpg

While they may take longer to build and I’d have to build another 180 ‘shudder’ they do look a lot smoother when drybrushed compared to the rubber wheels were the drybrushing is all over the place due to the shape and texture.

“So what do you think to the new Ard Wheels; are they an improvement or do you prefer the rubber wheels?”

Da Test Drive!
Well I finally got to take the new grots out for a spin today at the Yorkshire Doubles Tournament and apart from forgetting that the Hydra autocannons were twin linked for the first game and a half it went okay.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/236/9/6/Da_Grot_Doom_Patrol_by_Proiteus.jpg

The first two games were fantastic and very close, we would have won the first one if we hadn’t ran out of time. The third game just had me and my ork ally in a race to see who could kill the most Necrons, it was over by turn 4 and not very interesting. Overall the two units that shined was Gorkil (Marbo) who got stuck into a unit of Long Fangs for an entire game and The GBH (Banewolf) which torn it’s way through the most enemy units.

End result was a Draw, Minor Loss & Massacre Victory and athough we didn’t win best army my comic won me an award for best background. :D

I would love to go into more detail but I’m absolutely knacked, as always I look forward to your feedback.

masterowen45
24-08-2010, 21:01
glyph= go away
yay extra points :)


are you sure this is a rebellion army? now the grots are using both ork wheels and ork glyph?!?!

the wheels look to 'neat' worn metal doesn't look like that, rough up the edges

never saw a problem with the rubber wheels and is a bit of a waste of time and money just scraping them because of tiny mould lines which real rubber tyre wheels have

what place did you come in the tournament?

madd0ct0r
25-08-2010, 12:36
I'm with masterowen.

The new wheels are good, but so were the old ones. They look fine on the table together.

I'd say this solves your sourcing issue - the new wheels are fine. On the other hand, I'd say not to bother redoing the rubber ones, they look fine too.

The effort and money could be better spent elsewhere.

Proiteus
25-08-2010, 18:25
I'm with masterowen.

I'd say this solves your sourcing issue - the new wheels are fine. On the other hand, I'd say not to bother redoing the rubber ones, they look fine too.

So do you think I should use them on the kommand doom-vee or the mobile base with the dozer blade?

madd0ct0r
26-08-2010, 11:02
Aesthetically they'd match a dozer better, but they would highlight the command doomvee nicely.

toss a coin?

Proiteus
28-08-2010, 19:37
“Beold Ma Latiz Kreation!”
I give you ‘Da Mega Lobba!’ When I created the Dakka tank I did mention that they’d be some variants and this is the first one representing a Griffon Mortar.


http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/240/7/1/da_mega_lobba_by_proiteus-d2xgzbc.jpg

Originally the Griffon was going to be represented by a simple barrel sticking out of the top that was shown in the first preview (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/116/1/c/Big_Gun___Squig_Tank_Preview_by_Proiteus.jpg), however a Griffon is open topped so I created a new turret using some bits I had in my boxes and an empire steam tank cannon.

Though this tank won’t be making appearances in my full 1500pt armies it will be used for small games in my 600pts ‘Doom Patrol’ list which I use for playing games in GW stores, lets face it using a full mech guard army on a 48X48 board does give you much maneuverability.

So look out GW Peterborough I’m coming for ya tomorrow and GW Kings Lynn on Thursday! :D

Wat ya tink?
I’m considering painting the Command Squad’s Doom-vee black with bronze details, however I have doubts on how good a black tank can look given how I can only highlight, what do you think? Also anyone know any good tutorials for painting black tanks?

NightAngel
29-08-2010, 19:38
I'd say hold off on the black, I just don't think it would look good.

Proiteus
31-08-2010, 19:19
I'd say hold off on the black, I just don't think it would look good.

I agree with you, so can anyone suggest what I can add to my command doom-vee to make it stand out.

madd0ct0r
31-08-2010, 22:53
banners? speakers? a sign-up-for-da-rebellion-counter?

shaso_iceborn
01-09-2010, 02:58
banners? speakers? a sign-up-for-da-rebellion-counter?

I got the idea of a "kill banner" from your post. say a banner bearer on top with the number of kills the Krumpuny got.

madd0ct0r
01-09-2010, 10:06
Chained down warboss (careful of the ablative armour?)

shaso_iceborn
01-09-2010, 16:03
Chained down warboss (careful of the ablative armour?)

With all the Ultra Marine hate out there, Marneus Calgar? lol Not a warboss but oh so much better :D

I really like your idea.

Proiteus
05-09-2010, 15:46
DATZ OLD SKOOL!
When I was visiting my family last week I popped by my old independent stockist, the guy also sells 2nd hand miniatures and I found 2 of these babies.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/248/8/e/old_skool_by_proiteus-d2y27o3.jpg

For those of you who don’t recognise it’s a Grot Cutta one of the vehicles that the official grot rebellion used in the game Gorkamorka. The 2nd one doesn’t have the mast but for £2 each it was a steal!

At the moment I’m considering rebuilding this one and slapping it up on ebay. True it would look cool in the army but there is nothing for it to represent and it’s too big for an objective?

salvindogath
05-09-2010, 17:42
Thats awesome!

What size base does it fit on? It looks like a dreadnought sized base (I forget the measurements) from the photo. If soo, why not use it as a HQ objective?

shaso_iceborn
05-09-2010, 18:38
DATZ OLD SKOOL!
At the moment I’m considering rebuilding this one and slapping it up on ebay. True it would look cool in the army but there is nothing for it to represent and it’s too big for an objective?



I don't know they could always be "scout" sentinals

Proiteus
05-09-2010, 20:03
I don't know they could always be "scout" sentinals

and replace my squig tanks: never! Also they just a bit bigger than a 6mm base and I can't fit all 3 wheels on one.

shaso_iceborn
05-09-2010, 20:11
Well they could be just vehicles that have some of the many slogans we have all came up with on the sails "banners" and have no game value other than looks.

macloud
05-09-2010, 23:36
this may be a strech but - count as rough riders?

hang on go with me on this.
Think of would be basically landsailing grots, with a front mounted harpoon [hunting lance] and the grot piloting it just in front of the sail.

think somthing like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Sail_wagon_edit1.jpg/800px-Sail_wagon_edit1.jpg

yay/nay?

madd0ct0r
06-09-2010, 11:09
more good pics here:

http://www.seekextreme.com/blokarting-the-land-yacht/


They're too fast for scout sentinels, but rough riders could work.

Hellebore
06-09-2010, 12:46
This is great. I wrote a grot revolutionary army list a while ago (you can find the thread in rules forum) that might be useful (if you are able to use fan lists).
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206476&highlight=grotz

All the special rules are on the last page of the document.

Keep up the revolushun!

Hellebore

Proiteus
06-09-2010, 19:03
hang on go with me on this.
Think of would be basically landsailing grots, with a front mounted harpoon [hunting lance] and the grot piloting it just in front of the sail.


I had rough riders in the old army, they were represented by grots in small go-karts and they worked well. However in an army full of tanks having 1 or 2 poorly armoured infantry units running about is suicide.


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs29/f/2008/063/7/4/Grot_Rebel_Ruff_Riderz_by_Proiteus.jpg

macloud
07-09-2010, 12:02
I had rough riders in the old army, they were represented by grots in small go-karts and they worked well. However in an army full of tanks having 1 or 2 poorly armoured infantry units running about is suicide.

firstly i spoted this on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gorkamorka-Rebel-Grot-Cutta-Still-sealed-box-/190439219486?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item2c570fe11e) i know its currently £5.50 but it apparently sealled in the box, so it should have everything there.
secondly, and apologies for not having a copy of the IG codex to hand, what about using them for a last minute objective grab?
as you've said your armies predominantly a mech based army, and as such your opponents are probubly going to form up for such - the last thing they'd probubly expect is agroup of these little scrotes appearing out of nowhere to take an undefended objective - or maybe even suprise attack any infiltrating enemy troops - hell,or maybe even use them as a last minute "kamikaze" speedbump?

whether you go with that or not though, keep up the good work, and i await to see more of your work - FOR DA REVOLUTION!!

Proiteus
10-09-2010, 18:11
Ma Latest Invention!
Originally the rebellion used the over the shoulder guard missile launchers and lets face it that’s a lot of weight for a grot plus the risks of having a grot trying to shoot through a thin firing window on a doom-vee. So instead I made an oversized laser pointer which operates a mobile Rokkit silo out of a leftover epic battlewagon, his doom-vee will also have one added to the hull which you’ll see at a later date.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/253/f/d/grot_rebel_rokkit_wagon_by_proiteus-d2yfbu2.jpg
“Ey Guyz Gazza Stripbolt ere, now wen Grotsnik started iz rebellion da boyz
carried da Rokkit launcherz on da shoulderz. Now diz led to a lot a trooperz
urting demselves and not hitting anyting so I made diz; Da Rokkit wagon, it
easy da grot trooper uses dat dere lazer pointin ting to pick a targit and den
launchz a Rokkit that goes into da air and lands on da targit with a boom!”

Hopefully you’ll see the rest of his squad later in the week.

Hellebore
11-09-2010, 08:28
Haha, that's so cute! :D

Great idea.

Hellebore