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the Infadel
01-10-2009, 23:01
I just got word that there will only be one Games Day in the States next year, in Baltimore. No promises, but that is what I heard.

Templar Ben
01-10-2009, 23:28
Makes sense. Chicago has Adepticon which is far better than a GD. In LA they would be compared to something like ComicCon which is also far better.

Where did you get word?

Bregalad
02-10-2009, 00:05
GW finally reacted to visitors' complains that Games Days were not worth it: They agreed and cancelled them ;)

Vermin-thing
02-10-2009, 05:36
Taking the easy way out... ...not that I could ever attend because I live in Canada which gets jack.

Erethor
02-10-2009, 13:06
http://gwuscommunity.com/?p=397

2009 Gamesday

"We have also decided that we will not be hosting a Los Angeles Games Day this year. This was a very difficult decision for us and we want to be very clear and open about our reasons. Simply stated, based on current plans...(BLAH BLAH BLAH)...and return with Games Day next year, in a very big way."

Emphasis mine

Vic
02-10-2009, 14:20
.."and we want to be very clear.."...did they hire Obama's teleprompter?

You have to wonder why they pulled back on this their major showcase in a premier sales region. I thought the economy was improving, why are they pulling back? Something like this has got to hurt them in the long run, as it is the Games Days that they generate interest in product and then work off that groundswell to make sales. Unless the import of GD's has gone down?

Corrode
02-10-2009, 15:06
Seems pretty simple to me - rather than run 3 crap Games Day's they'll just run one good one.

(this post is no guarantee that US2010 will actually be any good).

x-esiv-4c
02-10-2009, 15:12
Or just run 1 crap one.

Templar Ben
02-10-2009, 15:58
.."and we want to be very clear.."...did they hire Obama's teleprompter?

You have to wonder why they pulled back on this their major showcase in a premier sales region. I thought the economy was improving, why are they pulling back? Something like this has got to hurt them in the long run, as it is the Games Days that they generate interest in product and then work off that groundswell to make sales. Unless the import of GD's has gone down?

Games Day is not that important. It is a convention put on by one company that only has one company's products. Compared to a fan convention which has corporate sponsors but has more events, more people, and more fun. GW should try to figure out why Americans go to GenCon, DragonCon, ComicCon, and the rest and use those ideas to make it something worth considering.

Jedi152
02-10-2009, 16:15
I hope it'll be as amazing as this year, with as much wonderful new stuff on display and such friendly helpful staff. :rolleyes:

If you pay 30 again after the last awful effort, you deserve to have no money.

Vogon
03-10-2009, 07:52
Based on this years effort in Birmingham, I may do Salute in London next year instead at least then I could possibly make a weekend of it persuade my missus to come along and go shopping as a penance on the saturday

Cheers

Vogon

Brandir
04-10-2009, 20:51
Why don't GW US attend Gencon?

Jedi152
04-10-2009, 20:58
Because they don't like sharing the spotlight. They like to think they're above other manufacturers.

starlight
04-10-2009, 21:00
GW doesn't attend (although apparently FW and BL do) multi-company events to eliminate the comparisons (mainly price). :(


Better safe than sorry is their mindset... :(

Vogon
04-10-2009, 22:10
I seem to remember last time I went they did attend Salute as did forgeworld

Cheers

Vogon

Bregalad
04-10-2009, 23:39
They won't attend "Spiel 2009" in Germany this year, the biggest public gaming fair in Germany. Not worth the money, they say.

starlight
04-10-2009, 23:44
Not worth the money = *We won't sell enough to pay for the trip because people will be able to directly compare us to other gaming/modelling companies.*

x-esiv-4c
05-10-2009, 12:30
Starlight hit it on the head there.

mdauben
04-11-2009, 15:43
Kind of a shame they killed off the regional GDs, since IMO GD is not worth more than a daytrip.

I went to the Atlanta one a few times. The first one was definetly the best, with lots of new stuff to talk about in all three "main" game systems plus Specialist games, and IIRC Forge World was at GD that year selling stuff. It was well worth the 2-hour drive for me go to Atlanta for the day, but no way would it have been worth Air Fare, Lodging etc. for a multi-day trip to go to Baltimore for the same thing.

Y'inglye
04-11-2009, 17:47
That's just plain retarded. So much for 2-year planning, buying bits and customizing my army to take part in the Golden Daemon competition...

Skaven13
04-11-2009, 18:44
Well, on the bright side, this is a step towards going back to the "good old days" that a lot of people seem to be longing for, right? Right...?

starlight
04-11-2009, 19:01
In what way...? :eyebrows:

Hokiecow
04-11-2009, 19:16
Maybe they're contracting so they can regroup and make GD what it should be, iron out the format and logistics to make it an event hobbyist would be willing to travel to or expand to other places in North America.

starlight
04-11-2009, 19:19
Unfortunately that's the tune they've been singing for several years now... :(

Skaven13
04-11-2009, 20:25
In what way...? :eyebrows:

In the way that, back in those "good old days", there was only one GD to go to in the states. It was just a sorry attempt to find the bright side of this situation here...

Arvendragon
04-11-2009, 20:26
This means there's nothing in Canada too, right?

Darn.... And I just started.

starlight
04-11-2009, 20:39
I'd rather go to Astromomicon than a GD anyways... :)

http://www.astronomi-con.com/

Winnipeg, Toronto, and Vancouver. :)


In the way that, back in those "good old days", there was only one GD to go to in the states. It was just a sorry attempt to find the bright side of this situation here...

I figured... :p

However, so far after each GD has been cancelled, GW has said *We'll be back...bigger and better!*. How long ago was GD Seattle...? :(

sheck2
05-11-2009, 00:49
(Putting helm on)...

How many people go to Gamesday to compete or see Golden Demons? Yes it kills the extremely talented displays, but will it really hurt sales?

It reminds me of the folks who said GD sales would die when tournys were removed.

I thought the bulk of GWs customer based was in the mid-atlantic and northeast...with Chicago next. So having it in their home turf rather than going to NYC (which could be a much more expensive venue ot hold) makes sense.

If they bulk up modeling and 'big games' this could be the best GD in years.

Ravenous
05-11-2009, 01:27
That's just plain retarded. So much for 2-year planning, buying bits and customizing my army to take part in the Golden Daemon competition...

Its one of the few things GW excels at; Exiling customers.

Ironmonger
05-11-2009, 04:09
Well, I live outside of LA (kinda... in Santa Barbara), and I have become increasingly alienated with GW's PR policy over the past year and a half. I was hoping for a GD LA next year to get excited about 40k again, but no. Sorry GW: I'm about done with you.

At least SOTR treats people as fans of their system and minis, instead of faceless sheep to be bled dry of money and abandoned:mad:

Congratulations GW, your plan worked: I'm taking my new professorial salary elsewhere.

gyg
05-11-2009, 05:31
They won't attend "Spiel 2009" in Germany this year, the biggest public gaming fair in Germany. Not worth the money, they say.



http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/big-game-hunter-the-search-for-the-next-monopoly-1813587.html

With over 150,000 attendees you'd have thought they'd put in a token stand at least - Spiel is obviously not like GD, but seems strange not to have a presence.

snurl
05-11-2009, 13:13
Well, they will be saving money on squig cakes.

starlight
05-11-2009, 16:54
Not worth being compared to other options... :(

Ravenous
05-11-2009, 18:02
Not worth being compared to other options... :(

Well GW constantly spout how they are the leader in mini games and claim they control 95% of mini sales then why wouldnt they show up?

Unless they know that the show is full of the bitter self absorbed biters that can only have fun in their own "special" way. I wouldnt want to deal with them either. They'd throw up a 10 page rant if my booth carpet colour wasnt to their pleasing....

My guess is that the expense of driving there and setting up outweighs the potential gains they may have, in other words no guaranteed money = screw it.

starlight
05-11-2009, 18:58
...or it's many thousands of people who have never heard of GW (yes, those people exist) and GW thinks they won't compare favourably in a *quality for price* (ie value)...?

GW prefers to perform in a vacuum where customers can't make direct comparisons... I'll leave you to speculate on their reasons...

N810
05-11-2009, 19:06
I just got word that there will only be one Games Day in the States next year, in Baltimore. No promises, but that is what I heard.

Well I can't complain... It's the only one near me.
(only a 4-5 hour drive)

Maybe they will actualy make it longer and more worthwile next year.

Ravenous
05-11-2009, 19:15
...or it's many thousands of people who have never heard of GW (yes, those people exist) and GW thinks they won't compare favourably in a *quality for price* (ie value)...?

GW prefers to perform in a vacuum where customers can't make direct comparisons... I'll leave you to speculate on their reasons...

Its the mind control rays from England. Get your tinfoil hats! :D

Warboss Antoni
08-11-2009, 01:28
I guess after last years Games Days, they just felt it wasn't worth it. Baltimore was complete **** and a waste of a day, and the even died 2 hours early ( they wrapped up the GD and everything by 4 because most people left around noon ), and from what I've read the others were no better. The whole bring your own army thing sounds like "we don't feel like painting up tables like we used to so now just bring your own stuff". Sad, sad news, although I really wasn't planning to go next year anyway.

The Orange
08-11-2009, 04:09
Well, I live outside of LA (kinda... in Santa Barbara), and I have become increasingly alienated with GW's PR policy over the past year and a half. I was hoping for a GD LA next year to get excited about 40k again, but no. Sorry GW: I'm about done with you.


Ditto


Baltimore was complete **** and a waste of a day, and the even died 2 hours early ( they wrapped up the GD and everything by 4 because most people left around noon )

Funny the last GDLA I went too wasn't that bad, and yet it was the one they cut.

Oh well, best to just try to hit up comicon next year.

Duke Georgal
08-11-2009, 04:53
I think we can all assume this is just one more sign GW is accepting their destiny that they are shrinking into the future.

Warboss Antoni
08-11-2009, 16:59
Funny the last GDLA I went too wasn't that bad, and yet it was the one they cut.

Ya, It really was that bad. Everything ran out, and even though everything was scheduled till 6 they just ended everything at 4.

chaos0xomega
08-11-2009, 17:53
Hopefully only having to run ONE Games Day(in the us) next year means that they will have more of a budget - I.E. more interesting stuff, shorter line for FW, etc. etc.