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Magos Explorator
30-10-2009, 20:32
++Throughout the decades of the Emperor's Great Crusade, the reputation of the Fiftteenth Legion--the Thousand Sons of Magnus the Red--has been tainted by whispers of forbidden knowledge, and the name of Sorceror.++

My pre-Heresy models to date have mostly been squads from assorted Legions. I've wanted for a while to focus on one force and, through raiding the bits box and the purchase of a couple of components, I'm ready to do so. My chosen Legion is (as the title suggests) the Thousand Sons.

I'm aiming for a force which could take part in the Tempus Fugitive's Siege of Terra event next May, although I don't yet know if I will be able to attend. I am going to be careful to model them so as not to commit to any particular era, though, so they could represent a force right from the Great Crusade through to an (unmutated) army at the Siege or during the Scouring. Although the Tempus Fugitives list includes new units and special rules, I'm also going to try and make sure most things would work in a normal game of 40k.

Over the next week or so I am planning to finish building the force, then it's on to the painting as time allows. So to start off with, here's a selection of the HQ choices I have assembled.

First, the Primarch Magnus the Red:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_magnus_unpainted_front.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_magnus_unpainted_back.jpg

++Magnus, large even among his brother Primarchs and with an unrivalled mastery of the secrets of the Warp.++

Before anyone asks, the model is a non-GW figure which sometimes appears on eBay labelled as the Scarab Lord. I think he makes a good stand-in for Magnus, although he is huge (see the regular marine for scale). It's a nice-looking model although an absolute pain to assemble, with lots of loose bits and gap-filling. The weapon shaft snapped just under the hand so I sculpted a couple of purity seals to better hold it in place.

Next up is Ahriman. The conversion is inspired by (but not meant to be a direct match to) the artwork in the Collected Visions books. He's made of a large number of components. The head is from MaxMini and the base, as with all the others in the force, from Foundations of War. It's the 'alien temple' range, which I think could represent an alien world or the shattered ruins of Prospero quite well.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_ahriman_unpainted_front.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_ahriman_unpainted_back.jpg

++Ahriman, Chief Librarian of the Thousand Sons. He shares his Primarch's obsession with the arcane.++

I've also assembled two models which can be used as either Librarians or Captains.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_sorc1_unpainted.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_sorc2_unpainted.jpg

++The commanders of the Thousand Sons legion were invariably blessed with psychic might.++

One uses Captain Sicarius as a base, and the other a Master of the Chapter. On both, relevant icons were removed. The round, flat areas will have the Legion symbol painted on. The one with the jump pack also has some attempts at sculpting simple scarabs over the U icons falling down near his feet. I thought that using the metal Thousand Sons heads would be a good way to denote leaders--it is shown in the art books--and have done my Tactical squad Sorceror-Sergeants in the same way.

Comments and suggestions appreciated, and I'll do my best to answer any questions.

WhiteOwl
30-10-2009, 20:57
I have a feeling this is the start of something epic! Looks very good so far cant wait to see more. Were did you get those giant SM legs for the primarch?

Magos Explorator
30-10-2009, 23:15
Thanks. :) I am hoping to put together 3,000-4,000 points.

The Primarch is not my own sculpt; if you search eBay for 'Scarab Lord' they come up sometimes. Some person/people have done a bunch of models which look like the Primarchs and this is one of those. So it's not a perfect match, but I think it will do.

Hushrong
31-10-2009, 00:02
wow, impressive. i cannot wait to see more.

eltanko
31-10-2009, 04:00
Interesting start. That Magnus counts as model is huge! big Primarch! very nice though!

ElTanko

khaosBlizzard
31-10-2009, 05:19
i love thousand sons, this is awesome man :D keep up the good work

fluffstalker
31-10-2009, 10:53
As a growing Pre Heresy fan myself, I jump for joy whenever I find Pre Heresy Threads! Looking good man, especially the Egyptian style kopesh blades they have. The Scarab Lord is maassssive. Write up some fluff rules for him for apoc games, should be pretty scary stuff :D.

Also, just as a note for inspiration, not a challenge to do better than, search you tube for a thousands sons pre heresy army, some guy from BoLS did one and its pretty neat might give you some ideas, not just for fluff but game wise also. Again not a "this is better" but just a potential springboard for progress.

Bladelord
31-10-2009, 11:27
I know that feeling, fluffstalker. I jump just as much the same. ;)

Good start - especially with Ahriman, and nice to see some use of the Thousand Sons helmets on Pre-Heresy models - although mr. Red is a bit on the huge side! It looks like the beginnings of something valuable for my inspiration folder! :D

Illiterate Scribe
31-10-2009, 17:15
Great to see another TFer here! Can't wait to see some of these in May - the Captains/Librarians are especially awesome.


although mr. Red is a bit on the huge side!

He was meant to be enormous.


Write up some fluff rules for him for apoc games, should be pretty scary stuff.


There's already rules in the campaign pack, I think.

shaw3029
31-10-2009, 20:10
Exellent start!

I didn't realise that model of Magnus was so massive! I don't think you will be able to use him at the Tempus Fugitives event though as it says "Models must be scratch built or at least be based on or comprise of at least 50%Citadel miniature components."

Ahriman is very very nice indeed and I like the Commanders you've done although the Sicarius models helmet doesn't seem to fit to well at the moment. Will you be removing the Imperial eagles from them?

Do you have a list written up? Surely you can't build the whole 3000 point force next week! :eek:
That woul be a challenge.

Thanks.

Magos Explorator
01-11-2009, 11:06
Thanks, all. :) I appreciate the comments.

Yes, the Magnus model is huge! I got him about a year ago but didn't get round to assembling him until more recently. I have got a list in mind which doesn't include him, as he's a non-Citadel model I did think there may be issues.

Anyway, the 3k list using Tempus Fugitives rules is something like this:

HQ: Ahriman, 2 Epistolaries
Elites: Techmarine, Terminators (including Ankhet), Seraphis (Librarian-dreadnought).
Troops: 2 Tactical squads in Rhinos and 2 Scout squads with sniper rifles.
Fast Attack: 3 Land Speeders, 10 Assault Marines, 5 Jetbikes and 1 Attack Jetbike
Heavy Support: 2 Vindicators, 1 Land Raider

I'd pare this down to create smaller lists for the other games.

Magnus and a Fellblade will take this up to ~4,000 if I play other games using the Tempus Fugitives rules, or in Apocalpyse (where I figure Magnus could count as a Lord of Change or something, and the Fellblade as a Baneblade).


As a growing Pre Heresy fan myself, I jump for joy whenever I find Pre Heresy Threads! Looking good man, especially the Egyptian style kopesh blades they have. The Scarab Lord is maassssive. Write up some fluff rules for him for apoc games, should be pretty scary stuff .

Also, just as a note for inspiration, not a challenge to do better than, search you tube for a thousands sons pre heresy army, some guy from BoLS did one and its pretty neat might give you some ideas, not just for fluff but game wise also. Again not a "this is better" but just a potential springboard for progress.


Fluffstalker: Thanks, I'll have a look. I have got a bunch of smaller Tomb King blades to use on an Assault Squad, too.


Ahriman is very very nice indeed and I like the Commanders you've done although the Sicarius models helmet doesn't seem to fit to well at the moment. Will you be removing the Imperial eagles from them?

Shaw: I have tried to avoid too many Imperial Eagles, as the fluff says that the Emperor's Children were the only Legion who were all allowed to wear them and otherwise it was a battle honour. So the Librarian above has one (as a battle honour) and my Dreadnought will too. But I am not using them on other Marines, and will omit/cover them on most of the vehicles. I figure two models in an army isn't too bad. I think the helmet on the Sicarius looks ok in person--perhaps it's the camera angle.

I did some building yesterday and will do some more today so perhaps some updates soon...

Magos Explorator
02-11-2009, 20:56
Here are some pictures I have to share of the aforementioned weekend work.

++The humble Rhino APC is a mainstay of the forces of the Legions of the Astartes. Here, as is not uncommon, the Thousand Sons have opted to display their status as the Fifteenth Legion.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_rhino1_unpainted.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_rhino2_unpainted.jpg

These guys are not heavily converted, unlike some of the impressive attempts I've seen out there. Both have (as will all my larger vehicles) a plastic XV to denote the Fifteenth Legion. These came from a merchant of clockmaker's spare parts. The cupolas are removable so I can spin them around, or sub in something else if I decide to take a Hunter-Killer missle or similar.

I will have two Tactical squads, with different armour types, and the cupola-mounted Marines are designed to match their squads. I've also used some of the Forge World Red Scorpions vehicle doors and filled in and smoothed down the Scorpion symbol in the middle; I intend to paint the Thousand Sons Legion symbol in here.

++Many Astartes forces include Techmarines, whose specialities in maintenance and repair are invaluable on the battlefield. In addition to this, they are skilled combatants in their own right.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_techmarine_unpainted.jpg

I built this Techmarine from a wide variety of parts; he's got a Thousand Sons bolter and loincloth to help tie him in with the rest of the force. As the rest of the models are converted, I didn't want to use a stock figure (although the stock figure is very nice!).

shaw3029
02-11-2009, 22:55
The Techmarine is very nicely posed and the XV is a great idea.

Gonders
02-11-2009, 23:03
Sweet tech marine you got. The pose is nice and different but still gets across the nature of what he'd be upto.

How did you do it? cut him the waist and replace the legs?

Gonders

tcraigen
03-11-2009, 06:08
very cool work.

Magos Explorator
03-11-2009, 22:32
Thanks, guys.

Gondor: Actually, that Techmarine body came as a torso in the Blood Angels Honour Guard box set from a few years ago; it was designed for the plastic Assault Squad legs so I didn't even have to do any chopping. :D

Magos Explorator
04-11-2009, 09:19
Finally time for some troops...

++Although the majority of the Thousand Sons--as with the other Legions--take to the battle in the assorted patterns of power armour, lightly-armoured scouts are often employed for reconaissance and sniper duties.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_scouts.jpg

I have 10 scouts; the above picture shows 4 of them. I've not done too much with these except swap the heads for those of trimmed-down WHFB Chaos Warriors; I tried this with my Death Guard Scouts a year or two ago and liked it so have done the same. It's a bit tricky to fit the heads on some of the poses, and lots of filing of parts was needed.

I decided that the non-aiming models will be my sergeants; to denote this, one got Telion's head and the other got a crest from the High Elf archer box set on his helmet.

++Versatile, disciplined, deadly: the Tactical Squad. With a mixture of bolters and more specialised weaponry, these Space Marines are well-equipped for any battlefield role.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_1_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_1_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_1_3.jpg

This is my first Tactical squad, a mixture of standard marine, Chaos marine, Thousand Sons, Forge World and MaxMini bits (with some Black Templars and Tomb Kings on the leader). I went for the 'standard' fitout on this; additionally, the Tempus Fugitives campaign rules allow Thousand Sons to upgrade their Sergeant to a Sorceror-Sergeant with force weapon and combi-plasma, so I decided to go for that option, so I decided to go for that option, using Dark Angels Commander Azrael's gun.

The overall look of the armour was inspired by assorted pictures from the artbooks, and I wanted the squad to look coherent. I sculpted simple scarabs over the Red Scorpion icons present on some of the chest plates. The backpacks are mostly from the Chaos range, with the exhausts trimmed down and inverted, for a more arhaic feel.

I'm quite pleased with these guys. I should note the middle guy in the middle picture doesn't look quite so much like he's tipping over in reality, but I may repose him. ;)

I will use the metal Thousand Sons torsos I have for the second Tactical squad.

systmdownxer
04-11-2009, 12:51
Shave them aquillas off those scout armors!

Magos Explorator
04-11-2009, 17:46
They're not aquilas, they're winged skulls... The aquila is the eagle-headed one.

Bladelord
04-11-2009, 19:19
Shave them aquillas off those scout armors!
Besides, they'll be less obvious if painted the same as the rest of the armour (a metallic red I suppose?) - but good progress nevertheless! Where did those "Iron Armour" helmets come from? :)

Magos Explorator
04-11-2009, 23:23
Thinking about it more I am now considering sculpting a simple scarab over the top of the skulls on the scout armour where visible. We'll see...

I am leaning towards a flat red now as opposed to the metallic I did on a tester later but again that's something to decide later. The tactical squad helmets are from MaxMini: I asked when placing an order to pick which helmets, instead of a random assortment. Here's a link to the product: http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=60

(I'll actually be using 4 of the 5 variants in this force.)

Magos Explorator
07-11-2009, 11:04
A little more progress from earlier this week which I thought I'd share.

++The Land Raider is the most heavily-armoured Battle Tank in regular use by the Space Marine Legions; as well as anti-tank and anti-personnel weaponry, its transport capability enables the rapid deployment of Astartes to the thick of combat.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_landraider.jpg

I decided to go with the regular Land Raider as opposed to the Forge World pre-Heresy kit as I'd heard that the latter can be particularly tricky to get to fit. However after seeing several assembled I think perhaps if I ever get a second, it'll be one...

This is similar in principle to the Rhinos I posted before, with Red Scorpion doors and Roman numerals. I switched around the doors and lascannon sponsons as I thought it made more sense for troops to disembark from right behind, as opposed to right in front of, the lascannons.

I replaced the weapon mounts with the leering heads from the Chaos vehicle sprue:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_landraider_weapons.jpg

However I realised when taking the photo that I glued the wrong sides together, so now two lascannons have holes all the way through and two have no holes! I feel slightly foolish about this and am not sure what to do. I may have to render the lascannons vertically immobile.

++Support tanks such as the Vindicator are invaluable in close-quarters fighting, effective against troops, armour, and removing fortifications.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_vindicators.jpg

Sources place the creation of the Vindicator around the start of the Heresy; in games set earlier, I figure I can pass these of as prototypes or leave them out of my list.

Again they're not radical conversions; I added numerals and replaced the aquila on the doors with a Tomb Kings component but that's about it.

Bladelord
07-11-2009, 11:22
Nice tanks. I hope you've loaded up on Tomb Kings paraphernalia?

Magos Explorator
07-11-2009, 17:22
I have some bits, yes--a few have made their way onto my Dreadnought and Land Speeders (pics soon-ish), and I've got some weapons for my Assault Squad (although I am still waiting on a few components).

imm0rtal reaper
09-11-2009, 11:16
Some very nice work here. Looking forward to seeing this army expand.

Magos Explorator
09-11-2009, 23:58
Thank you! Some more vehicles in this post--I've done some more assembling since taking them, but am awaiting the arrival of some components before I can finish the other models off.

++Brother Seraphis, former Librarian of the Legion, was possessed of sufficient strength of will that despite grievous injury in battle he was able to survive long enough to be interred in a Dreadnought. His might and wisdom continue to be an asset to the Legion.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_dreadnought_seraphis.jpg

I wanted a Dreadnought to represent the Tempus Fugitives' Librarian-Dreadnought Seraphis. In the end I settled on the Venerable Dreadnought, and with some chopping and filing managed to fit a Thousand Sons head on there.

The aquila on the chest plate stayed on, figuring if any Marine was deserving of that honour then odds are it'd be one who became a Dreadnought. I used Tomb King shields as shin armour, and a plasma cannon from Forge World to get the correct armament according to the TF rules.

++Land Speeders provide invaluable reonaissance, and armed with the recently-developed multi-melta are able to provide anti-armour support.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_land_speeders.jpg

A squadron of Land Speeders completes a Fast Attack choice. I left off some of the armour pieces to get a look slightly closer to the classic models, and make them look a little different from regular Speeders. A Tomb Kings decoration replaces the aquila, and I added a chariot spike in front.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_landspeeder_crew.jpg

The crewmen were similarly put in more archaic patterns of Power Armour. (I didn't bother to photograph the multi-meltas, as I figured they were uninteresting).

Nocturn
10-11-2009, 00:36
Hey :-),

I have to say this dread looks really really nice, the head fits perfectly imo.
I would love to paint this model, since I can't wait to see it painted ;)
Should look very great :-)

keep it up,

Noc

eltanko
10-11-2009, 01:08
Nice conversions, Seraphis looks great, the head matches perfectly for a ven dread. nice little additions to the land speeders aswell.

ElTanko

DeathCat147
10-11-2009, 08:47
Nice conversions, Seraphis looks great, the head matches perfectly for a ven dread. nice little additions to the land speeders aswell.

ElTanko

QFT. While in not too sure about the Magnus model, everything else gels together very nicely. Keep up the good work.

Bladelord
10-11-2009, 11:22
Brother Seraphis is a true monster machine, and a classic one at that. You can't go wrong with him obviously!

Good work on the Landspeeders! Those flowing pennants add well enough to the look. Now those heads are very interesting - from where did you get them? Of all the older Mk. goodness I wish that GW will make a plastic kit of one day, I want the Iron Armour even more than the Mk. I Thunder Armour and the good ol' "beakie" armour. Of course, the helmets are the most important, so I'm very curious. :)

Hm, what more? As for the colour scheme, will you go with a metallic red?

You haven't thought of using some High Elf bits (and yes this comes from an elven fanatic)? Some of them - especially the smaller ones, such as the Archer forehead crescents - could be invaluable to your Thousand Sons, being bejewelled and tricksy and such. If you include such nitbitz, never underestimate the art of turning pieces upside down!

I think I can spot a mould line on the Tomb Kings banner tops of your Landspeeders... ;)

primarch111
10-11-2009, 14:58
Love the dread, what bitz did you use on the legs?

Kalsir
10-11-2009, 18:07
Indeed a great dread, seems to be tomb king shield on his legs.

Magos Explorator
10-11-2009, 19:54
Thanks, all. :) I am glad to hear the positive feedback on Seraphis--I was pleased with how he turned out!

Nothing Can Beat Elves: The heads are from MaxMini.eu. I have got some of the High Elf crests--one is on a Scout sergeant--but the sizing is sometimes a bit tricky to get them nicely positioned on helmets, so I have not used too many. And I'll have another look for mould lines; I did my best but one may have slipped through... Colour-wise I am thinking not metallic but we will see.

primarch111: Kalsir is right, Tomb Kings shield.

DeathCat: Yes, sadly the Magnus is one of the things I am less happy with in the force! It's a nice model but can be a bit fragile and stylistically does not fit perfectly with some of the GW bits. Perhaps in a while I will try and make my own.

I have a bunch more models done to post photos of soon, then it will be on to painting, when I can find the time!

Uriain
12-11-2009, 18:09
These guys look REALLY awesome. very good job. I will be following this very closely.

I have always liked pre-heresy armies, just never got around to researching the info to make one..

Looking forward to seeing that dread painted up

Magos Explorator
16-11-2009, 17:28
Thank you, Uriain!

Some more updates on the force. I've now finished building most of it (although have a few more photos to sort out) and am starting to prime, so after this update there will be one more with unpainted models--and then finally the paint will begin to flow...

++The Elite of the Astartes Legions are sometimes gifted with the new and rare 'Terminator' pattern armour. It affords protection such that the wearer may shrug off small arms fire with ease, and frequently may turn aside even the blast of a krak missile. Squad Ankhet are one such group of veterans.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_group.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_3.jpg

Magos Explorator
16-11-2009, 17:30
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_4.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_terms_5.jpg

I wanted to create a Terminator unit which was distinctively pre-Heresy to represent the squad of Ankhet, named in the Tempus Fugitives list. I am quite pleased with how they've turned out.

I started with the Chaos Terminators (removing some spikes), and used MaxMini heads. Ankhet himself got a Tomb Kings khopesh added. I added shoulder straps with grey stuff and then Dreadnought shin pads from the Ravenwing sprue. You have to be careful which way around these go as they're asymmetric. I added a near-circle to the tops of one of each Terminator's pad, where the Legion symbol will go. This is perhaps most obvious in the first picture.

++The Fellblade is a mighty tank deployed with some Astartes forces, although Imperial commanders have noted that it best fits with the forces of the Imperial Army, where it is often called the Baneblade. As a result of this its use among the Astartes is rare, with the Land Raider and Predator battle tanks more frequently used; where present, however, its firepower and armour can be a match for an entire enemy force.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/fb_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/fb_2.jpg

I was quite keen to add a Fellblade to the force; I like the Baneblade model a lot, and think it makes a good centrepiece. This got a similar treatment to my other vehicles (although I did leave one Aquila on, figuring this would be the most appropriate of all the tanks to bear the battle-honour) of Tomb Kings bits and Roman numerals. I added Chronus with some grey stuff and a head swap to the turret, and a circle on the front, where I will add the Legion symbol.

Bladelord
16-11-2009, 18:01
Good terminators, and fine to see a Fellblade! The terminators look a little top-heavy, but it should be fine.

Murphy's law
16-11-2009, 18:10
I really like your terminators.
This gives me a lot of inspiration for my pre-heresy deathwing.

primarch111
16-11-2009, 19:13
Hmmmmm..termies and tanks. Nice addtions.

OnnO
16-11-2009, 19:32
Very nice work, I can't wait to see more.

Ettore
16-11-2009, 21:42
great work by now, these alternative heads works great for thousand sons!

Magos Explorator
06-12-2009, 18:48
Thanks, all.

++As newer versions of Power Armour have become available, Astartes have typically been refitted with updated equipment on a squad-by-squad basis.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_2_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_2_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/tsons_tacs_2_3.jpg

These guys have a different torso (the Thousand Sons metal one or a Mark V) from the other squad, and helmet. I wanted each squad to be slightly different, but harmonise the equipment within a squad. The Sorceror has a combi-plasma gun, like in the other squad.

You'll be pleased to hear that I have primed some of my infantry so the next update will be of the painted variety...

macloud
07-12-2009, 12:51
loving this thread - im currently in the process of making some pre heresy 1ksons myself.
have you considered buting some dark angel veterens and combining the rear roabed bodys and hooded heads with the 1ksons front pieces? maybe use as WYSIWYG chosen/veterens/retinue?

bigbauske
07-12-2009, 16:35
Nice looking models and tanks, I like the conversion and the numerals... simple but effective and sharp.

When you going to post some painted pics?

eltanko
07-12-2009, 20:53
They have the making of an excellent looking squad. Eagerly await seeing them painted :)

ElTanko

Hushrong
08-12-2009, 01:30
very nice models you have assembled and like everyone else i cannot wait to see them assembled

Kroot Lord
08-12-2009, 17:23
They are all looking absolutely magnificent!

Magos Explorator
08-12-2009, 19:40
Thanks, all.

macloud: That's a good idea; I have all the models I need for the moment (although not 100% assembled), but might do that if I decide to include a command squad. One of the Tactical sergeants does have a pair of robed Dark Angel legs.

As for painting... I started a Scout last night, and am pleased with how he's going, so will post some more when further along. :) Currently he's just got red armour and not much else!

Magos Explorator
20-12-2009, 22:34
First off, I have been painting a Scout to get a feel for the colours I am going to use in the army. I am trying to improve my painting with this force so am taking things slower, trying to bring out the highlights more and so on.

The WIP of the first scout is below; the top half is mostly done, aside from the gun, while the bottom is largely just basecoated so I know what the colours look like together.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/scout_test_f.jpg http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/scout_test_b.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/scout_test_l.jpg http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/scout_test_r.jpg

I know the photos aren't great, but any pointers would be appreciated--I am fairly happy with the highlighting, freehand and battle damage (I took CMDante's tutorial for inspiration).

Magos Explorator
20-12-2009, 22:35
(Double post for pics-per-post limit.)

I have also been doing some more building...

++Assault marines, equipped with jump packs, are able to launch rapid surprise attacks on the foe.++

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_a_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_a_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_a_3.jpg

These guys were built in the same style as previous Marines; I may go back and add more purity seals but otherwise they are done. They have khopeshes from the Tomb Kings range instead of chainswords and chainaxes, to give a feel more tied to the Thousand Sons. The Sergeant has a lightning claw and storm shield.

I also used some shoulder pads from Chapterhouse Studies, to try and give them a more heavily armoured look. These are a little taller than the standard GW pads (due to the 3-tiered structure), and a little less deep, but fit ok.

I only have a jetbike squad to put together now and assembly will be done. I won't have much time over the holiday period but hope to get a bit more painting, at least, done.

Hushrong
20-12-2009, 23:03
that scout and those khopeshes are NICE. i love that helme on the scout and those blades do add a nice touch.

I thought about using the same blades after watching the history channels show on the ancient isrealites and how they used similar weapons.

cannot wait to see these painted up.

khaosBlizzard
21-12-2009, 07:08
Awesome stuff! I love the scouts.



Khaos

Gu Long: Ancient Dragon
21-12-2009, 09:39
Looking good man, 1k sons have always been a fav of mine, and i adore their pre-herasy appearence.

Looking forward to more

Gu

macloud
21-12-2009, 13:34
as a recomendation if you [or anyone else wanting to build 1ksons] need more kopeshes or egyptian themed items.

crocodile games have released, for their wargods line, an egypt themed army along with a wealth of egypt themed bits, including khopeshes:

linkage for kopeshes (http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/item_details.asp?CatID=24&SubID=50&Page=3&pageHeading=Items%20-%20Miniatures%20-%20Aegyptus)

and heres the linkage for crocodile games website (http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/), although you can buy them from the uk as well via crocodile games official uk distributor black pyramid games (http://www.blackpyramid.co.uk/productview.php?brand=3).

Magos Explorator
21-12-2009, 21:55
Thanks, guys, and thanks for the link, macloud. I think I have all the bits I need for the moment but I will keep it in mind if I need any more.

That first Scout is now pretty much done, and I hope to start on another model before going away for Christmas.

Magos Errant
21-12-2009, 23:24
Excellent job, Explorator! Your Thousand Sons are awesome! The scout's red armor is very cool looking. Subscribed!

Da_Killa
22-12-2009, 02:37
looking very nice, the conversions are awesome and the painting on the scout is stunning

shaw3029
22-12-2009, 23:16
Very nice, The scout is painted really well.

I was going to order some of the shoulder pads myself. They look good! Are they a little larger than the normal ones?

Thanks.

Petay1985
23-12-2009, 09:20
I am particularly impressed with your Tactical marines, as 'eltanko' says they have the makings of a very nice squad, and i too look forward to seeing them painted!! :cool:

Magos Explorator
03-01-2010, 18:03
Thanks, all. Shaw:They are a little taller and not quite as deep. I don't know about any of the other Chapterhouse pads, though.

I recently finished the Scout, and a Tactical Marine:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_front_painted.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_left_painted.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_right_painted.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_back_painted.jpg

I'm very pleased with how they came out; I think taking my time a bit more helped up the level of my painting a bit. I hope others would agree! They are close to my vision of how I wanted them to look. I realise that the Scout's rifle power cable does not join up in that pose but figure he disconnected it to wander about or something.

Legion symbols are freehand, the Scout has an XV to denote the Legion number, and the Tactical marine has a stylised scarab and an I. I have not yet decided whether to attempt the scarab on the rest of the squad, or vary the heraldry (but keep an I in there somewhere to indicate squad).

I decided to go for a snow effect on the bases, to add to a 'cold' feel, and attempted a marble pattern for the fallen stones. My technique for the marble needs some refining but I think it's ok for a first attempt.

I've started another Scout, although sadly the paint doesn't seem to want to adhere to the resin base... this is a little frustrating and I'm not sure why, as I washed and dried them all before use. Hopefully persistence will pay off.

I've been trying to finish up a few of my Skaven for a bit of a change from 40k, but will be back to these soon (and another project which has been waiting a while for me to use the bits I've got--not pre-Heresy though.)

Slawter
03-01-2010, 19:02
Wow :eek:
First pre heresy thousand sons ive seen.
The paintjob is outstanding.
Interested to see how magnus is going to turn out.
Look really good mate, keep it up!

Slawter

Magos Explorator
03-01-2010, 22:08
Thank you for the kind words. :) These paint jobs are some of mine which I am most pleased with, so it's good that others like them too, although I have a long way to go to approach the quality of some other forum members. I wouldn't have had the skill or patience to paint like this a few years ago.

I am a little nervous about Magnus - think I'll try and finish a squad or two before tackling him! The same with the vehicles, as I haven't painted any in a long time.

Black Legionaire
09-01-2010, 19:05
Now that is somthing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shaw3029
10-01-2010, 16:42
Very nice paint job, Cant wait to see the army as a whole.

Thanks

Monsterzonk
10-01-2010, 16:49
Wow! They're looking great! Love the red, and the Legion insignia is very well painted. Awesome job!

Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:

rev
10-01-2010, 22:25
this log just made my bookmark page (which doesn't happen very often) entitled 'armies to rip off one day when I have time'

love it. Seriously. Love it.

rev

Magos Explorator
11-01-2010, 03:56
Thanks, all, again. :)

rev: Coming from you, that's quite a compliment!

Am away at the moment but I finished another Scout before I went, and hopefully I'll have painting time soon after I get back... So I'd hope for an update around the end of the month.

Hushrong
11-01-2010, 05:58
awesome marine, keep them coming!

pluch87
11-01-2010, 06:16
Great stuff, they look fantastic! Keep it up.

Zanzibarthefirst
28-01-2010, 00:20
Lookg great

Im doing a pre-heresy 1ksons to tie in with the release of the new Horus Heresy book and my Index Astartes log. my quesiton is this; is there any organisation theme i.e. rapid response army, siege etc... or is it just standard SM pre-heresy organisation with a bit of everything

Magos Explorator
30-01-2010, 12:41
Thanks, guys.

There's no particular theme to my force; I guess just a bit of everything.

More coming soon...

Ostling
30-01-2010, 15:09
subscribed :)

Mega Nutz
30-01-2010, 16:10
Fantastic builds and great paint scheme.

Cardinal
30-01-2010, 16:28
this is by far one of the best representations of the fifteenth legion i have seen on any forum on the allmighty intarwebz. kudos to you for restoring the glory of a sadly neglected legion!

/Cardinal

Brother Jones
30-01-2010, 16:57
Where did you get those heads from?

VERITAS/AEQUITAS
01-02-2010, 15:23
Nice work! Hoping for updates soon..

Nazerth
02-02-2010, 23:12
Really great work, this is my favourite pre-Heresy Thousand Sons log :D

VERITAS/AEQUITAS
07-02-2010, 15:03
I also used some shoulder pads from Chapterhouse Studies, to try and give them a more heavily armoured look. These are a little taller than the standard GW pads (due to the 3-tiered structure), and a little less deep, but fit ok.

Can you provide a link to that website? :angel:

Magos Explorator
07-02-2010, 20:47
Sure-the shoulder pads section is here: http://chapterhousestudios.com/webshop/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=17

I've now finished half of the Scouts, will have pictures in a day or two (want to varnish them first).

Hushrong
07-02-2010, 21:16
sweet, cannot wait to see more of your Thousand Sons painted up

Irbian
12-02-2010, 09:08
wow, great work, I really love that conversions (and makes me want to make a thousands sons army)

Subscribed here sir, continue the good work

Brother Mordeus
13-02-2010, 02:08
Wicked stuff, your painting is exquisite, the conversions effective. As a fellow pre-heresy fan i am in awe at what you have achieved here.

Magos Explorator
13-02-2010, 15:44
Thanks, guys. I finally got around to varnishing some models, so here's an overdue update.

I've now painted half my scouts; next up are the remaining five:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_scout_sergeants.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_scouts_ptd_1.jpg

I'm pleased with these guys, although the scarabs on the sergeants' chests didn't work out perfectly. But still I think they look good. Apologies for the poor lighting. I've just spotted the blemish on the left-hand sergeant's cloak and have fixed it (some stray snow).

I'm tempted to increase the dirt and grime on some of my next ones. I've been using the Forge World Dark Earth pigment on boots, but it's not too visible. I am not 100% happy with my battle damage scratches, so there's room for improvement on the dirtyness front!

My shelves are already looking a lot nicer, now there's some nice bright colours instead of grey and black on them. :)

I'd hope the next update would be in less than a month from now.

Dejay
13-02-2010, 15:50
Those are some beautiful scouts. The damage is just right I think. I really like the helmets.

Hushrong
13-02-2010, 16:22
very nice work on the scouts. I really like the helm of the first one with the more ornate piece on it(first pic, left scout).

salvindogath
13-02-2010, 23:17
Great work on the scouts, they once again increase the urge for me to make some of my own with the chaos helmets!

Dayspringer
14-02-2010, 01:40
Nice! Very clean paint job, I like it!

Monsterzonk
14-02-2010, 12:37
Love the Scouts, mate! Nice, clean red and great shading on the cloaks. Bases are cool, too! Nice work!

Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:

Zanzibarthefirst
19-02-2010, 02:00
Is there any of the Maxmini heads that you don't use. I'vew had a look at them and i think the one with the two values on the cheaks doesnt quite fit

Succurso
19-02-2010, 10:39
Superb log Magos, I love the execution of the paint job on some great conversions. Looks like you've spent a while thinking this army through.

If I was to offer constructive critisim on the scarabs it would be to make the dividing lines on the scarab carapace a bit smaller - maybe use a pin to scratch the line into the GS when its part cured might give you a better finish.

But other than that I really have enjoyed reading this log. (The face on the second scout sarge is a particular favourite)

Regards

Succurso

VERITAS/AEQUITAS
19-02-2010, 11:35
The Scouts look ace, Magos E. !!

katyusha77
19-02-2010, 12:02
Very nice army and really great paintjob. I love all your conversions and these scouts are superb. Can't wait to see all your army painted.

DIRTY_PIRATE
19-02-2010, 13:13
excellent coversions and excellent painting. keep up the good work!

Petay1985
19-02-2010, 15:44
the scouts look fantastic! i concur with 'dejay' the damage/weathering is perfect!

primarch111
19-02-2010, 16:10
NICE!!!!!!
Great concept, well planned and masterfully executed.
now i have to clean up the puddle of drool i left after looking at these.

anselminus
19-02-2010, 16:14
cool pre heresy army :D

Shadow Fall
19-02-2010, 16:16
group shot would be lovely my fellow traitor!

would be nice to see the army so far :D

Keep it up

SF :chrome:

Ferran
19-02-2010, 17:52
Those scouts are looking very nice, good work.

Magos Explorator
19-02-2010, 19:09
Is there any of the Maxmini heads that you don't use. I'vew had a look at them and i think the one with the two values on the cheaks doesnt quite fit

I don't use that one either, but think I have some of all the others in there. ;)


If I was to offer constructive critisim on the scarabs it would be to make the dividing lines on the scarab carapace a bit smaller - maybe use a pin to scratch the line into the GS when its part cured might give you a better finish.

That's a good idea, thanks--I will try that for any more scarabs I make. I probably won't redo those already done unless I end up with a lot of spare time on my hands! :D

Thanks to everyone for their kind words. It helps keep me motivated! The remaining 5 Scouts are nearly done--should be a week or so. After that I fancy tackling maybe one of the Rhinos. Perhaps when I've got a few more painted I'll do an army shot, otherwise it'll be a wall of grey/black with a splash of red here and there.

I have also been thinking about the Techmarine. I want him to stand out compared to the others, so am contemplating non-red colours. This is also partially because, after having glued and primed him, there's a lot of hard-to-reach areas. So I am wondering whether either mostly-silver or mostly-gold would be better for the armour. Any input is welcome!

Valo
20-02-2010, 06:58
great looking army so far,can't wait to see them completed.

I noticed your using the red scorpions torso's,you wouldent be interested in selling off the shoulder pads and heads would you?

Magos Explorator
20-02-2010, 10:24
Thank you. I've already got rid of the shoulder pads, am keeping the heads. :)

donuter
21-02-2010, 01:23
This sir is a very very cool army. Having recently started a pre heresy thousand sons army (or at least started some rough ideas and got models) i have two questions

1)How have you painted these guys (like all of it)

2) where do you get all your bits from, such as the Khemri swords?

Magos Explorator
28-02-2010, 12:52
Thank you, donuter. In answer to 1: I will try and do a tutorial some time; and for 2, I search eBay and bitz sites (bitzbox.co.uk is the one I use most frequently).

I've finally finished the last of my Scouts:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_scouts_l5_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_scouts_l5_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_scouts_l5_3.jpg

I'm pleased with how they turned out, although also happy that that's all of them, as I could feel my interest beginning to wane as I got close to the end. I guess I need to stick to armies with high diversity and low model counts!

I've also painted the cupolas for my smaller tanks:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_cupolas.jpg

... and finally here's an early shot of the vehicles themselves:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_tanks.jpg

I used Army Painter Pure Red primer to try and get a smoother finish than priming black and then painting red. The Pure Red goes on nicely but is very bright, so I am going to have to dull it down before highlighting the tanks. You can see I've made progress on one of the Rhinos; before the highlights and Baal Red wash, I used a couple of thinned coats of Mechrite Red and Devlan Mud to dull it down.

Not certain how best to approach the weathering on these.

Gargobot
28-02-2010, 20:02
Great looking pre-Heresy army, the conversions are cool and the painting is just outstanding.
I'm looking forward to future updates. :)

Hushrong
28-02-2010, 21:46
glad to hear the scouts are finished and are looking good. since thats the last of them i am looking forward to some 1k sons in power armor.

the rhinos an vindicators are off to a swell start, the merchite red an devlan mud have given it a nice, dark/deep red.

Magos Explorator
01-03-2010, 09:03
Thanks, guys. :) Yes, after these tanks--and perhaps during--some power armour!

I was worried that the Pure Red spray would be too bright but the washes have dulled it sufficiently. My aim is to get through these four tanks during March. We'll see if I manage!

Ferran
01-03-2010, 14:19
(bitzbox.co.uk is the one I use most frequently).

Really? Seems a pretty poor business to me, due mainly to 50+% of stock never being available. Prices aren't great either.

salvindogath
01-03-2010, 15:31
Nice work on the scouts dude, also good to see some tanks on the production line too!

Interesting to hear you used the army painter spray and that it worked, i've heard nothing but bad things about them.

I've looked at getting things from that site on several occasions but nothing is ever in stock!

Magos Explorator
01-03-2010, 18:36
salvindogath: I'd heard mixed reviews but thought I'd go for it, as a colour primer would be easier to get an even coat for my vehicles than painting the large, open areas by hand. I've not tried any of their other products, though.

Ferran, salvindogath: I've also found stock levels to be hit-and-miss, patience there (and eBay) pays off, though! There's an eBay seller in the US called Hoard O'Bits (or similar) who I think many of the Tomb Kings parts came from, actually.

WrathOfTycho
03-03-2010, 11:29
i use the exact same red spray for my blood angels, and it works great

Magos Explorator
13-03-2010, 14:17
I've now finished both Rhinos:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/rhinos_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/rhinos_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/rhinos_3.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/rhinos_4.jpg

I went for the Tactical arrow on one, and a scarab on the other, as well as the Legion number. The photos aren't great; I am finding the vehicles quite hard to get good pictures of with my camera setup.

My aim is to try and paint both Vindicators over the next week, as my available painting time's going to be decreasing for a while after that.

I'm reading through A Thousand Sons at the moment and enjoying it immensely; some great fluff and painting/modelling inspiration in there too! No spoilers, though, please.

rev
13-03-2010, 14:20
They look awesome mate

rev

shaw3029
13-03-2010, 18:17
They certainly do!

Im looking forward to seeing the Vindicators finished.

Magos Explorator
13-03-2010, 20:08
Thank you. :) A coat is drying on their hulls as I type...

Hushrong
13-03-2010, 22:08
the rhinos look great. i really like the scarab symbol on the back hatch. keep it coming

primarch111
15-03-2010, 22:15
the rhinos are awesome. can't wait to see the vindicators.

odmiller
16-03-2010, 02:34
Beautiful stuff.

Repentant Son
16-03-2010, 06:37
Watching this thread. Didn't know preheresy 1k sons were red, but I enjoy the red you have portrayed them with, excellent job on that. Also, excellent conversions/sculpting.

Dejay
16-03-2010, 08:00
Rhino's look great, really unique. Great job sir.

jdp
16-03-2010, 13:48
Your Rhinos look very nice, nice neat freehand work. The rest of the conversions are nice and clean as well. This is growing into a very respectable force indeed. Pictures of vehicles can be probematic but yours look just fine from this end.

Keep up the good work!

VERITAS/AEQUITAS
16-03-2010, 15:47
Yikes! Awesome vehicles. Keep it coming!

Magos Explorator
21-03-2010, 00:24
Thank you again, all, for the comments. To know that others like seeing the pictures is a good motivation for taking and posting them!

I managed to get the Vindicators done, using the same basic scheme and techniques as the Rhinos. Hereís some pictures:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/vindis_1.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/vindis_2.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/vindis_3.jpg

The one on the leftís had some experimental uses of Forge World weathering pigments on the dozer blade. The grime on the other one has actually been painted as vertical streaks, although itís hard to tell from the photos.

Iím reasonably pleased with how they turned out, although I donít think my weathering is quite as good as others. Still, Iíve not painted too many vehicles in my time, so have more to learn. Practice makes perfect.

After the armour I painted one of my Sorceror-Sergeants for the Tactical squads. This is just the Thousand Sons Sorceror, with a purity seal and combi-plasma added. During varnishing I managed to chip the end of the sword quite badly; I tried to fix it up as it was before.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/sorceror_sergeant_1_painted.jpg

After all those vehicles, I suspect my next few figures will be of the power-armour variety! Weíll see. Thereís still lots more to get done, so I might paint a Tactical marine or two to break things up a bit. Iím enjoying this project a lot, and think that the painted portionís coming along nicely. As always, comments and suggestions appreciated.

For those whoíve read A Thousand Sons, any thoughts on good models to represent Tutelaries? I am tempted to add a few; thinking along the lines of elemental beings (perhaps fire or air). Flamers of Tzeentch are one possibility, but I think a bit Chaotic for this period.

donuter
21-03-2010, 00:56
Love them to bits. like the muddy tanks alot.

and clever use of the khemri banner btw

Petay1985
21-03-2010, 01:02
looking good fella, the sorceror looks ace. I was never a big fan of the original model but seeing it in the pre-heresy colour scheme certainly gives me more respect for it.

Hushrong
21-03-2010, 02:42
The vindicators are breath-taking. The weathering effects turned out great.

The sorcerer sgt is lookin ace as well and I look forward to seeing some more tactical marines. An if it's too much i'd love to see what you do when you make some thousand sons terminators!

hur@n
21-03-2010, 13:28
your army is really very beautiful and you give him a lot of style I like

Proiteus
21-03-2010, 22:03
Fantastic Army man, love the thousand sons and your doing them justice.

Kobrakai
21-03-2010, 22:55
I'm not usually into pre heresy stuff, but I got to say these guys are beautiful.

Awesome stuff. They really have captured the pre heresy look superbly :)

rev
21-03-2010, 23:14
yep - tasty. more please!

Dayspringer
22-03-2010, 00:22
not much more to add that others have not already...great stuff, keep it up!

Magos Explorator
22-03-2010, 22:32
Thanks again, all. Not much painting time in the near future (lots going on at work) but I may be able to get something done this weekend.


An if it's too much i'd love to see what you do when you make some thousand sons terminators!

I've built some, posted a couple of pages back, but they're not yet primed or painted. I may add some more purity seals and remove a bit of the more Chaotic ornamentation before I paint them. The next stuff will probably be some more power armour and maybe one of the characters, as a reward.

There's a few side projects I'm working on too (like to keep some variety and work on two different things at once); I'm going to paint a test model from each of those, then see what I enjoy most, and keep the others on the backburner for now.

Whitehorn
22-03-2010, 22:55
You've cracked such a nice tone for the red on these, easily complemented by the soft gold.

BeatTheBeat
22-03-2010, 22:56
Incredible work on the sorceror! The vindies look good as well, but the sorceror really was something extra nice.

Keep up the great work,
BTB

SincaiN
23-03-2010, 20:31
Very nice man .. the vehicles look awesome. I 'm starting to work on some tanks and was on the fence about wether to add weather effects.. I think I'm leaning that away now :)

Aiwass
28-03-2010, 12:57
Really nice work here Magos. 5 stars for you!

Keep it!

ventris94
28-03-2010, 16:34
really nice, i always love a good pre-heresy army!!!

daismith906
04-04-2010, 17:24
Awesome work, very inspiring, hope mine end up half as good as yours & id be happy!!!

PrimeMinisterSinister
04-04-2010, 19:20
Well done brother.
Also, how do you find the quality of maxmini parts? I'm thinking of buying some soon.

Magos Explorator
05-04-2010, 21:10
Thanks again, all. :) I appreciate the comments and kind words.

No time to paint recently but hopefully will have some in the next few weeks. I've done a bit of work on an objective marker, and one of the Tacticals.

Sinister: MaxMini delivery can be a little longer than some other stores, but quality is great, no problems to date.

PrimeMinisterSinister
08-04-2010, 13:55
Good to know. You've inspired me to do some pre-heresy stuff. I might do some true scale Dusk Raiders.
Seriously, good work, Brother.

Magos Explorator
09-04-2010, 20:30
Good to know. You've inspired me to do some pre-heresy stuff. I might do some true scale Dusk Raiders.
Seriously, good work, Brother.

That would be cool to see, if you do be sure to post here/the Great Crusade forum. :)

Captain Xavier
13-04-2010, 21:02
Heya Magos

Loving this thread man, some seriously awsome work here. Can i get a recipe for you GORGEOUS red?!?!

And as far as models for the Tutelaries go i was thinking something along these lines
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300199&prodId=prod1140125



Cheers
Cpt X

Magos Explorator
14-04-2010, 20:45
I'll try and get to a tutorial soon, not had time to paint over the last several weeks though!

Thanks for the suggestion on the tutelaries. Those fit the ideas I was going for, although ideally I'd want some stuff with more poses. But elementals of some form seem like a good fit.

Hushrong
14-04-2010, 21:03
not had time to paint over the last several weeks though!

that has been killing me!

anyways, good luck with the tutelaries, a number of them will fit well but i cant for the life of me think of another suggestion for some.

a sidenote, tutelaries remind me of pokemon...just more sinister.

Shakey787
16-05-2010, 00:18
wow amazing mate keep up the good work man

Magos Explorator
16-05-2010, 09:00
Hushrong: Thanks; I was going to ask what Pokemon was but thought I'd Google it instead... kind of odd.

Shakey: Thank you.

No time to model or paint over the past month sadly, hopefully in June/July!

Magos Explorator
07-06-2010, 20:56
It's been a long time!

These past couple of days I've managed to find a little time to paint. So I started on some more marines...

... only to find that, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get anything (particularly the red) to cover evenly over the primed model. The paints went on glossy and blotchy, even after shaking. I went and bought a new pot of Mechrite Red in case that was the problem, but no luck. I'm feeling a bit sad about this; I don't know if it's the primer, bad luck with the paints, or what. :(

So, I persevered, and did a bit more painting. But I don't think it looks good, and I'm not really pleased with how things are turning out.

I hope to have some more time to paint soon so fingers crossed an update around the end of the month. Maybe I'll be more positive then. But there's about 20 primed models in that batch and I hope they won't all be ruined (the primed models look fine at the moment).

Sorry for the negative post, just wanted to get that off my chest!

PrimeMinisterSinister
07-06-2010, 22:29
Take your time and paint to your usual high standard. If you're not feeling it, try a different model or do something else.
It's not the end of the world.

Ridicule
08-06-2010, 11:47
How and with what do you prime your models?
If anything you can always try and prime one of the models again lightly and try painting it. See if it makes a difference.

Magos Explorator
08-06-2010, 18:51
I've been using GW Chaos Black primer--I am careful about humidity, and the primed models look fine. I think perhaps yesterday I went into too much of a panic as I'd not had similar blotchiness issues for many years. Hopefully next time I manage to paint cooler heads will prevail and I'll deal with it if the reds are still being funny. Otherwise, as PrimeMinisterSinister suggests, I may find something else to paint for a bit!

Hushrong
09-06-2010, 01:07
Sucks to hear the red isn't coming out to par bud. hopefully a bit more tweaking an it will be as it should because i'd like to see some more Thousand Sons!

rev
09-06-2010, 09:36
I feel your pain.

I often have heartbreaking results which ruin models, its such a suckerpunch.

Chin up ME - let it be known and reassured that you are a legend and an inspiration!

Rev

Magos Explorator
26-07-2010, 23:07
So, it’s been quite a while since I’ve updated—I found a little time to paint over the last few weeks, and finished a handful of figures.

I’m really not so happy with how these last few have come out, due to my aforementioned issues with the Mechrite Red. It’s made the armour blotchy and the highlights duller, and I think that getting frustrated with them means I rushed the rest of the models a bit. After finishing these guys I went and bought another replacement pot, which is working out better, so that’s something. But I am feeling like I could use a break from red power armour for a while! At least these guys are done.

The photos are also a bit poorer than usual—my old desktop PC’s got quite aged, so I installed Gimp on my laptop and am using that to edit (rather than an old copy of Photoshop). I’ve found the auto-adjust feature on that, perhaps there’s something else to fiddle with too.

First I’ve got one of the Librarian-Captains; he’s had his left arm reposed since priming. With him done it’s a game-legal painted force, albeit a small and odd one! Although you can’t see it here, his left shoulder pad has “XV” written on it while the right has half of the Legion symbol above the wings.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_captain_1_painted.jpg

Next up are a couple more Marines: the other Tactical Sorceror-Sergeant, and a regular marine. I was going for white flames up the leg of the latter, but that didn’t work so well. I think the Sorceror turned out ok, though.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_sergeant_bolter.jpg

I’ve started the special weapons marines for the squads, too, but didn’t get time to do too much on them.

Finally, in case I ever do play a game of 40k, I thought an objective marker would be useful. So here’s the long-suffering Lieutenant Varras from Battle for Macragge, painted up in the colours of the XV Legion.

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/thousand_sons/ts_varras.jpg

I painted a few other models, too. I will probably post them up over the next week or two. I don’t think I’ll get to paint again before moving house, so I’ll see what motivates me when I’m settled in!

Hushrong
27-07-2010, 01:25
SAWEEET! the sorcerer-captain and sorcerer-sgt are awesome. i really like the head pieces look on them.

salvindogath
27-07-2010, 07:43
Great work Magos, the sorcerer captain is really nice. I personally like the flames on the regular guys leg, it fits well!

donuter
27-07-2010, 23:26
Glad for the return.
They look really good mate, you certainly captured the spirit of the army there.

Monsterzonk
28-07-2010, 11:18
Great to see some more of these! I just finished reading "A Thousand Sons", and I'm contemplating doing a pre-heresy force of them, probably based on the Defence of Tizca, using the CSM Codex with a few flesh-changed Spawn and Possessed....

Love your work. The red is particularly well done, and I really like all of those small details like the flames on the Marines leg guard. Well done!

Cheers,
Monsterzonk :skull:

Petay1985
29-07-2010, 08:49
Fantastic progress fella, they really do look marvelous.

Molsonbeagle
30-07-2010, 05:18
Some really fantastic work you've done, I really really like your colors, and the way you did the dozer blade on the vindi is awesome. It's apparent they pay close attention to the looks of their vehicles as a whole, but could care less about their blade! Fantastic stuff!

Commander Zane
31-07-2010, 01:19
the thousand sons are my favourite pre hersey, traitor legion and youv done them justice if not more mate, you got magnus painted yet? lol

keep up the good work

Magos Explorator
03-08-2010, 22:26
Thanks, all; I appreciate the kind words and comments.


Great to see some more of these! I just finished reading "A Thousand Sons", and I'm contemplating doing a pre-heresy force of them, probably based on the Defence of Tizca, using the CSM Codex with a few flesh-changed Spawn and Possessed....


That would be fun to see! :) I still want to add some Tutelaries, but didn't figure out how, and the GW Horrors don't fit to me. Perhaps I'll use the Flamers, we'll see.


I have about a dozen Eldar figures lying around, and so thought Iíd paint a few as a break from my Thousand Sons. Inspired by Apologistís work on Eldar, and my older Altansar force (with a lot of brass and bone in it), I wanted to go for an organic look on wraithbone and include brass armour on Aspect Warriors. First off I did this tester for the wraithbone, which I guess could work as an objective marker:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/eldar/eldar_objective.jpg

I bought a pot of Hawk Turquoise, which Iíd not really used before, and decided that would work as an accent colour. So I decided that the Eldar would be from Craftworld Iybraesil: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iybraesil

The wraithbone itself was quite easy. On a white undercoat (also a break from the norm for me) I painted Bleached Bone and highlighted with VMC (Vallejo Model Colour) Ivory. I like the colour a lotóitís warmer than Dheneb Stone, a bit like a mix between Bleached Bone and Skull White. This got a thin coat of Ogryn Flesh, and when dry some more VMC Ivory.

Iíve also painted a Howling Banshee:

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh255/andy_sayer/eldar/eldar_banshee_1.jpg

Iím quite pleased with it and think the colours work well together. Since Iybraesil raid the Crone Worlds, I thought Iíd go for an icky feel to the base.

Whatís interesting is that my old pot of Brazen Brass paint is coming to an end, so I ordered a pot of VMC Brass, although the toneís quite different, closer to the GW golds. VMC Brass is what I used on the Banshee, above. I then bought some Vallejo Game Colour (VGC) Brassy Brass, which is a lot closer to the old GW Brazen Brass. So, thatís a tip for any of those seeking to replace their discontinued paints!

I also started to paint one of the new plastic weapon platforms, although thatís not going so wellóI didnít get the turquoise to work out on the Guardiansí armour in the way Iíd liked. I donít know when Iíll next get to paint but will probably work on it some more then. The kit itself was pretty nice to put together.

Dayspringer
05-08-2010, 02:39
That banshee looks sweet.
The base is excellent too. Alien swamps are always fun!

qwertyuiop
11-08-2010, 17:23
excellent models i must say, i'd love to have an army against that on a table opposing me.
one thing though , i scanned the thread quickly and couldn't find any information on it, how do you do that red?

Whitehorn
12-08-2010, 10:09
I love how you achieve such a matte finish and your colour tones, gives the models a great look.

Magos Explorator
13-08-2010, 22:23
Once again, thanks all! :)

qwertyuiop:

Black primer -> Mechrite Red -> 1:1 Mechrite Red and Blood Red -> Add in Tallarn Flesh and Skull white for highlights -> Charadon Granite and Devlan Mud in deep recesses, if needed -> Baal Red over the top.

checkmorale
10-01-2011, 08:08
This is a great effort, and the colors are very bold, like the old 90s style, but look great.

Like they're retro-nerd-chic! :D

-Check