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Marsekay
19-03-2005, 23:21
If you were promised powers and gifts from one of the gods, which would it be and why?
Do you like the idea of being able to use magic?
Do you like the idea of becoming all powerfull and strong?
Would you like to stink and never wash?
Would you like tentacles? and have man boobs?

I myself could never be tempted.

DantesInferno
19-03-2005, 23:29
Tzeentch, of course. Power to change the world for the good, power to stop injustice, power to improve society.

Hope. If you've ever looked at the world and thought "That's just not right!", then Tzeentch is your man. He can give you the power, but at what price?

It's about a lot more than shooting flames from your fingertips.

And, Marsekay, I think you could be tempted a lot more than you realise. Whatever it is you really want, the Chaos Gods can give you the possibility of getting it.

Khaine's Messenger
19-03-2005, 23:36
I'd probably fall to Nurgle. I made a long in-character-ish post about it in 40k general on the "other" Portent months and months ago. Suffice it to say, I see it as best suiting my personality (well, aside from the smell, but anyone concerned about that sort of stuff doesn't really have their priorities straight as far as I'm concerned). Of course, I would probably try as hard as possible to not get corrupted. But eh. Whatcha gonna do....

perionyx
19-03-2005, 23:39
I'd join up with the ranks of Slaanesh..

For Adult-only reasons... Ah. the pleasure of pain.. :D

<gets a spanking and asks for another one>

Spider
19-03-2005, 23:53
I suspect my "fall" would all to quick. I reckon that Khorne would be my god of choice...the last time some [insert expletive] keyed my car i could easily of given up my soul for a chance of some hugely violent and blood soaked retribution.

Even now just thinking about it gets the red mist rising...

Marsekay
19-03-2005, 23:56
I suspect my "fall" would all to quick. I reckon that Khorne would be my god of choice...the last time some [insert expletive] keyed my car i could easily of given up my soul for a chance of some hugely violent and blood soaked retribution.

Even now just thinking about it gets the red mist rising...

Thats nothing,
My ex's dad took an iron bar to mine, i lost all the windows and lights, and had a few dents.......
That got the "red mist" going.

Inquisitor DreaxIV
20-03-2005, 01:50
I wouldnt really choose a god to worship, but if i had a choice id go with Khorne as its my beastmen armies god!

Plus id find it amusing to go running around like a lunatic decapitating people.

Well not funny but its better than being a fetish slave, flaming pile of mutated blob or a disease

Kaoslord
20-03-2005, 01:54
I think I'd probably fall pretty quickly to Undivided.... But beyond that, I think too much for Khorne but too little for Tzeentch, have too much pride for Nurgle, but not enough for Slannesh... :(

Rabid Bunny 666
20-03-2005, 01:57
tzeentch with the wind of change, or whatever the old character had, would make gardeninng a thing of the past and the flaming death thing would make chav cleansing a whole lot easier, along with seeing into the furure and all

Brok
20-03-2005, 03:26
I personally would not fall. When does the master become the pawn? Besides, you are a slave. A free man has the choice to be good or bad, whereas a slave to chaos can only be evil.

Another reason would lie in that I identify with (some) of the Imperium's ideals.

boogle
20-03-2005, 03:28
I'm too goodie two shoes to fall to chaos

Goblinardo
20-03-2005, 03:35
I guess that Tzeentch would be the most likely to get me. After all, he is the God of Hope, and I tend to have lots of the thing.

Then, by decreasing order of probablility, it would be Khorne, Nurgle and Slaanesh.

Rabid Bunny 666
20-03-2005, 03:35
I personally would not fall. When does the master become the pawn? Besides, you are a slave. A free man has the choice to be good or bad, whereas a slave to chaos can only be evil.

Another reason would lie in that I identify with (some) of the Imperium's ideals.


chaos followers are only evil because they face the wrath of a god, would you kill a village or havbe your soul tortured forever?

boogle
20-03-2005, 03:37
but it can be argued that Choas is not evil in itself

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 03:38
I'd be so easily corrupted. Though it would be subtle and I'd be mainly a pawn. But if Chaos came out of the wood work and offered me the ability to smite people (as in throwing lightning bolts), I'd snap their hand off at the opportunity

Brok
20-03-2005, 03:46
chaos followers are only evil because they face the wrath of a god, would you kill a village or havbe your soul tortured forever?
Aye, thats true, but they do have to sell their souls to chaos first.

Also, I believe tzeentch is the lord of false hope and deceit, not real hope. That seems like something another god (The Emperor ;) ) would feed off of

boogle
20-03-2005, 03:47
thats a change of tact from you Xhalax, considering how many heretics you were Inferno Pistolling on the BL forum

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 03:52
Inferno pistolling?
I'd rather take on all four Chaos Gods at once with the broken leg off a chair than touch an Inferno pistol.
And I've always had Chaotic tendencies. I can't help it. I just love evil....and if Chaos fluff was actually interesting, I'd be happily flying the colours of some Dark Power rather than an Imperial Aquila

boogle
20-03-2005, 03:54
Inquisitor Ml Kurxe will hear of this, you'll be drummed out oof his retinue for sure now (he's always had his eye on you)

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 03:55
Well he's a radical who consorts with xenos scum....so he's little better than I am.

boogle
20-03-2005, 03:57
he never told me, i'll be having serious word with him (backed up by my trusty Power Maul), when i next see him, i didn't sign up with a xenos loving scumbag (and don't think Steve the Plasma Cannon will help you this time)

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 04:01
What a load of rubbish. Considering you were the one who told me that he keeps a Kroot tracker locked in a cupboard (which has managed to track its way out).
But we all know what happens when arbites take on inquisitors!
*pulls out leg braces and a book called 'Daemonhost training for beginners*
Who needs Steve when you've got the fruits of the enemy to play with in the name of the Emperor!

boogle
20-03-2005, 04:03
yeah but Kroot are fine as they are Mercs, and he can let him go at any time

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 04:04
They're still Xenos! They exists to undermine the Imperium of mankind!

boogle
20-03-2005, 04:07
nope the Kroot just live for Meat and loot

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 04:08
And they'd just as happily eat Imperium citizens and loot Imperium worlds

boogle
20-03-2005, 04:11
only if they are paid to do it

Xhalax
20-03-2005, 04:13
And I'm under no doubt that some other Xenos force would happily pay the Kroot do do that in the first place.

Marsekay
20-03-2005, 04:56
Henceforth this thread shall be known as "The Xhalanx and Boogle, bickering and flirting thread" ;)

boogle
20-03-2005, 04:57
considering we're brother and sister, the flirting bit REALLY doesn't apply

Marsekay
20-03-2005, 05:02
considering we're brother and sister, the flirting bit REALLY doesn't apply


Ooops sorry lol, my apologies.

boogle
20-03-2005, 05:03
its cheaper to fight this way (online, than it is to telephone each other), she usually wins though as i can't remember what i've said

Marsekay
20-03-2005, 05:05
Ahh the classic, drag the argument on so long you forget what/why you are arguing in the first place tactic often employed by women.

Wraith
20-03-2005, 12:01
This thread's a bit spammy guys...


If you were promised powers and gifts from one of the gods, which would it be and why?

Chaos Undivided.

Undivided deamon princes seem to have a lot more autonomy and freedom of choice than their power aligned counter parts. I also get the impresion from the fluff that become a deamon prince of chaos undivided is more difficult but more rewarding in terms of actual power and the ability to call on lesser deamons of all the gods (rather than one).


Do you like the idea of being able to use magic?
Do you like the idea of becoming all powerfull and strong?
Would you like to stink and never wash?
Would you like tentacles? and have man boobs?

Well, I like the idea of freedom of thought and action and undivded deamon hood offers this and indeed the power needed to keep it.

DantesInferno
20-03-2005, 12:24
Come on, Tzeentch has to be the most seductive Chaos power out there.

We're talking about the power to change the world for the better, to make a difference, to fight for the weak. Tzeentch is the power for people with a vision, people with hope.

Though the relative freedom of Chaos Undivided is also an option for the brave, for those who can try to bind the Chaos Gods to their will.

But Nurgle? For the terminally depressed. Khorne? For the mindless fighters. Slaanesh? For those with no vision, no sense of anything greater than themselves.

Adept
20-03-2005, 13:35
given the chance, it would take me about two seconds to fall to the Chaos Gods. Either Khorne or Slaanesh.

Sex and violence baby, sex and violence. The only type of movie better than an action movie is an action-porno movie.

TheSonOfAbbadon
20-03-2005, 13:49
Well:

Slaanesh: We're Orks, we don't have sex, we reproduce through spores.
Khorne: We're Orks, we're as violent as feck already.
Nurgle: Why would we want to get diseases? That's just plain silly.
Tzeentch: Shooting flames from far away is how sissies fight.

Besides, Gork and Mork could easily beat up all of the chaos gods.

x-esiv-4c
21-03-2005, 05:49
In honesty, the conversion to chaos seems to be a slow one. Starting with cults and occult activity, mostly harmless. Then it progresses to more and more dramatic changes. Since the transition is slow, dramatic changes won't be noticed as such an abberation. Sure growing razor sharp man boobs on your head is weird but if you're praising the lord of excess....what do you expect?

Captain Blood
21-03-2005, 06:35
Given the way the Chaos Gods came into existance, I'd have to say that falling is a matter of falling prey to excessive whatever fuels the particular god ends up claiming you. Or you willing decide to become their monkeyboy(girl?). I think that in the case of Tzeentch, hope isn't going to do much to feed him, but rather not only hope but going out and doing something both crazy and stupid to make that hope come true. An example of this might be a break and enter victim hoping to get his stuff back or that society gets better as opposed to forming a militia to actively stop crime. And even then, you'd likely have to decide that Tzeentch is the one for you.

All that said, if anyone, Khorne. It's not the blood, but the martial pride that gets me. But only a little, and that's not going to be enough to get me to fall. If that were all I cared for, then sure... :rolleyes:

mostholycerebus
21-03-2005, 06:55
Honestly, I would probably go to the Tau. Chaos has the potential for a better society than the fascistic imposed slavery of the Imperium, but has been as corrupted as their loyalist counterparts. All the primarchs from the Emperor to Horus were complete idiots, not worth the geneseed used to make them much less devotion.

TheDarkApostle
21-03-2005, 18:32
i would fall to the chaos gods in less than a secound, an if we talk about legions too then it would be a hybrid of iron warriors and word bearers (i just love the fire power and the power of the words)

Dr Death
29-03-2005, 20:06
I dunno, im one of these types who likes rigidity in his life so if i was to join chaos it would probably be joining the Word Bearers, all the rigidity of a loyalist chapter, just loyal to chaos :D

Of the gods i would probably dedicate myself to slaanesh, you're pretty safe in his hands unlike Tzeench and gaining a combination of constant pleasure and devilishly hansome looks (not that i need the latter ;) ) is a pretty good deal in exchange for your soul.

Hideous Loon
29-03-2005, 21:16
I myself would have no problem at all converting to Slaanesh (provided that the Apocalypse doesn't happen and Jesus comes back, takes me with Him and leaves all you sorry heretics behind). I listen to that kind of music (deathmetal, thrash and hardcore) already, but then it's that 'kinky sex' thingy left that all the Emperor's Children do, and I'm not into that.

On the other hand, Tzeentch is always accepting new worshippers. Being able to change the world to your liking (ending famine, putting George Bush in the trash-can, finally being together with my beloved Emilia) has something to it that no hard music in the world can ever do. But then, one can argument that you do not receive that awesome power immediately. Then I tell them to be silent.

---

Btw, I saw something the other day (might have been on this very forum, but 'twas funny): If Slaanesh is the god of sex, why is it Tzeentch that has the Thousand Sons?

MadJackMcJack
29-03-2005, 22:11
I've already been tempted over to Chaos PUNY MORTALS! *collects some skulls to start his own skull throne*

Shadowheart
30-03-2005, 00:34
And not just for the sex. There's art to be concidered, Slaanesh could be a mistress, a muse and a drug addiction all in one. No more writers block, no more inhibition, no more lack of inspiration. Pleasure beyond your wettest dreams isn't to be scoffed at either. Even if you do turn into a mutated freak, you'll have style, and you'll still get laid. Of the gods of Chaos, Slaanesh alone is divinely beautiful. And scares the crap out of those pointy-ears.

Sojourner
30-03-2005, 08:07
Once you're far gone enough to be seriously thinking about these issues, you're easy pickings. The moment you thought about how much that ******* down the street deserved a kicking, they've been watching you. And in that time, they've been eroding your independence, leaving you open for the moment of lucidity when they come to you and offer you the chance to fulfil that desire.

Laspistol
30-03-2005, 17:53
I'de probably convert to Undivided, mostly because it offers a lot more ersonal choice in your path, instead of dedicating to any specific gods.

"Bloodletters, Deamonettes, Furies ... FLY !"

It would take all of about 30 seconds for me to come along and start on the road to deamonhood.

** Ha, ha ! First post. By gar it's good to be back !

Karhedron
30-03-2005, 18:20
Realistically I suspect that Slaanesh would probably get her claws into me. Although Tzeentch also has a certain appeal, I like the whole forbidden knowledge thing.

Imagine boasting to your mates in the pub that you know who really killed Kennedy. :p

TheSonOfAbbadon
30-03-2005, 18:31
You wouldn't be able to being DUST!

Wraith
30-03-2005, 18:50
Imagine boasting to your mates in the pub that you know who really killed Kennedy.

Couldn't you have the best of both worlds and while retaining your depraved Slannesh simply ask a greater deamon of Slannesh? They aren't called 'keeper's of secrets' for nothing - they are described as knowing everything ever said by the older fluff.

worldshatterer
30-03-2005, 19:13
easy as eating pancakes, i'm far too easily seduced by the easy way of doing things and if tzeentch offered to solve my writers block so i can finish my dissertation i'd be down with the tentacles and beastheads .

nurgle_boy
01-04-2005, 08:22
im already dedicated to nurgle, i have a cult where my rabbit dresses up as a nurgling, and we make flapjacks on wednesdays.

Sojourner
01-04-2005, 08:32
Imagine boasting to your mates in the pub that you know who really killed Kennedy.

Or Kenny :p

You bastards!

hairyman
01-04-2005, 08:44
It would have to be Slaanesh, if only for the social scene

Inflammable
01-04-2005, 22:27
Tzeentch, for the same reasons as Dantesinferno

Xhalax
02-04-2005, 00:27
Tzeentch still has my vote.
Go Power, Knowledge and magic!

The boyz
03-04-2005, 12:50
I personally wouldn,t like to be to worship Chaos. But nurgle does sound tempting I wouldn't have to wash my clothes as often as I normally have to.I hate washing my clothes.

TheSonOfAbbadon
03-04-2005, 17:56
Nurgle means being in tortuous unending pain for all time until your death.

Tzeentch means knowing but not being able to tell.

Khorne means unparalleled close combat prowess in exchange for your sanity.

Slaanesh means eternal pleasure but never being loved.


So no, I'm sticking to Gork and Mork, or failing that the Machine God.

Black Ambience
04-04-2005, 12:23
If you were promised powers and gifts from one of the gods, which would it be and why?

If given the chance, I'd willingly throw my lot in with Tzeentch. Chances are that I'd end up dead, but then I'm going to die one day anyway - so while I am here I might as well make the best of it!

The favours of Tzeentch are the most appealing and the most useful to me, and I find a lot of common ground in his philosophy, making Tzeentchian worship a natural choice!


I myself could never be tempted.

Heh heh, everyone can be tempted...

perionyx
05-04-2005, 05:43
Once you're far gone enough to be seriously thinking about these issues, you're easy pickings. The moment you thought about how much that ******* down the street deserved a kicking, they've been watching you. And in that time, they've been eroding your independence, leaving you open for the moment of lucidity when they come to you and offer you the chance to fulfil that desire.

This is brilliant! And I'm a wee-bit surpised no one has yet applauded this piece... <Claps!>

Anyhow, for those interested here is the Short series "The Pleasure of Pain" by Remerez, posted at the Black Library Forums (http://www.blacklibrary.com/forum/default.asp) . - Very Chaos first-person stuff. It's some excellent work.

"The Pleasure of Pain" (http://www.blacklibrary.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=935)

It's a 3 part series and the other's are here:

Part - 2 (http://www.blacklibrary.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=936)
Part - 3 (http://www.blacklibrary.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1107)

And if your're not familiar with the BL forums you should be, and shame on you! :D

Kohhna
05-04-2005, 14:04
I'd probably go for one of the minor powers. If I could find someone who represented the whole rejuvination-through-destruction thing, like Shango in the Yoruba pantheon or Kali. I like their style, reminds me of Bakunin "The desire to destroy is also a creative desire" and all that.

Sai-Lauren
05-04-2005, 14:58
You wouldn't be able to being DUST!
That's only the R&F of the thousand sons, there's still the sorcerors of the thousand sons, and the other mortal followers of Tzeentch who still have bodies.

Personally, I've a feeling I'd fall all too easily, and maybe that's the point of chaos, the wrong thing for the right reason, or the right thing for the wrong reason.

Sojourner's right, there's always a good reason to do something that shouldn't be done, abuse a power, neglect a duty and so on. Everyone has some button that can be pushed, taking you over the edge and into the darkest parts of yourself.

If given a choice, then probably Tzeentch over Slaanesh, then Nurgle a distant third (mainly for the defiance aspect).

x-esiv-4c
05-04-2005, 15:06
The descent into the clutches of chaos is a slow one. From after-school goth gatherings to feasting on the entrails of a million cadians, you don't notice the change, or you do but you don't care.

Hideous Loon
05-04-2005, 16:41
Kohhna: All the minor Chaos powers are but reflections of the Big Four.

x-esiv-4c: That kind of made sense. The descent to Chaos is not that of the elevator, but that of the shallowly descending stairway.

Gregorus
05-04-2005, 23:21
converted to chaos? nah.... *throws another skull on the Khorne's altar next to the PC*

Black Ambience
06-04-2005, 13:35
The descent into the clutches of chaos is a slow one. From after-school goth gatherings to feasting on the entrails of a million cadians, you don't notice the change, or you do but you don't care.

Dibs on the signature rights to that lil' gem! :p

PKAwolf
07-04-2005, 19:53
just as easily as a keep going back to nicotine

Kohhna
07-04-2005, 22:15
Kohhna: All the minor Chaos powers are but reflections of the Big Four.

I suppose what I said would be an aspect of Tzeench, the lord of change, but he doesn't really have that revolutionary aspect so much in the fluff. And I play Khorne anyway. Hmm, I'll think about it.

I suppose I could worship that aspect of him through a Warp being, but you'd be kind of embarrassed at the Chaos Post black Crusade byob wine and cheese evenings or whatever worshippers of chaos do socially. You'd be sitting there "so, who do you worship", "I reap skulls for Khorne!", "I am a Minion of the Great Unclean One", "I worship Keith the Deamon." Doesn't quite sound nasty enough does it.

Broomstick
08-04-2005, 18:20
I'm a great believer of 'There's no such thing as a free lunch', and even thought I would eventually fall, I personnally think it will take a long time.
And to Kohhna, Keith isn't a bad name. It probably depends on the champion. I mean, if you've got some Khornate mutant going 'I love you Khorney!', and then some bad ass CSM beside him shouting 'For the glory of Keith', which do you think is better?

Black Ambience
09-04-2005, 00:11
I think "I love you Khorney" would be pretty horrifying coming from a Chaos Mutant...

angelspast
09-04-2005, 00:53
Death before subversion!

Broomstick
09-04-2005, 15:35
I think "I love you Khorney" would be pretty horrifying coming from a Chaos Mutant...
Yes, you're probably right.
Ergh.

milmot
11-04-2005, 05:33
Slannesh
God of Pleasure

Hello peoples! god of PLEASURE!
can i make it any clearer?!

Maybe tentacles and claws aren't your thing, but there are other pleasures out there.

Captain Blood
11-04-2005, 07:04
That's just the problem. Whatever your poison is, you'll get jaded. Then you'll be off for the next thing, and the next, and the next after that. Slaanesh seems to be more like the god of cheap thrills than anything else, pleasure for pleasure's sake isn't fulfilling.

Lockjaw
11-04-2005, 19:20
yeah, eventually you'd get to where nothing pleases you anymore

Broomstick
11-04-2005, 19:53
And then you can kill yourself, something which you would only feel once and therefore end the pleasure. Slaanesh is actually the ultimate addiction. Pretty darn good while it lasts (mmm...Daemonettes...), but you'll eventually self-destruct.
If you want to have a long term relationship with Chaos, then I suggest Nurgle or Tzeentch. Khornate and Slaaneshi servants tend to die much quicker.

Artemis_Quinn
11-04-2005, 20:01
I'd definitely be persuaded by a greater demon that looks an awful lot like the vermin lord :D But if I had to choose one of the big 4 I'd be forced to choose Nurgle. Living in a world of pain just makes you appreciate the release of death more. So kill me! Either way you lose. One way you lose a life you treasure, the other you help me by releasing me from a life of constant pain. What's more is that if I had an outlook on life like that I'd be afraid of nothing, that in itself is power. I'd be the most feared chaos lord ever not because I was the cruelest or the strangest or the most evil ever, it would be because you'd have no effect on me mentally, I'd stare the most wicked greater deamon down, I'd spit in the face of the meanest grey knight terminator, and I'd stand and fight the meanest nastiest monstrocity you have to throw at me. Like I say, either way, I win. (pretty grim but true) :cool:

Justicar Jacob
11-04-2005, 20:16
I'd fall to the Pleasure Wind, too easily to. 2 of my Armies worship Slaanesh,and the idea of warp sound and drugs coursing through my viens sounds fun.

Gop
12-04-2005, 00:03
Heh, what a weird thread. Before my family days I'd have probably succumbed to undivided, so I can enjoy the best of all taints.

Khorne could help out in road rage and other aggro situations, Slaanesh for those obvious moments (as long as I was a beautiful slaanesh person and not a man with boobs etc :eek: Tzeentch would let me zap people with my cool magic and alter the environment for my own ends, and Nurgle would protect me from disease and pestilence caused from eg. that week old pizza left in the fridge.

But knowing my luck I'd end up a man with boobs who also had pustules and buboes & a bad temper who ended up blowing everything up when my spells didn't work...;)

grizzly ruin
14-04-2005, 13:26
You know, I don't think I'd mind slaanesh.

Not for the pleasure or pain bit, but more for the Arrogant, sadist Lucius type killer.

Unfortunately being fondled by giant pink tentacles and having an eye ball for a nipple are hardly appealing to me.
I also have no use for a teat... (pg. 54 :eek: )

Overall, I'd much rather fall to Tzeentch.









unless of course I could be a Word Bearer...

Jmitchell
15-04-2005, 22:39
Can't be swayed, i'll stick to good old wholesome Imperial rhetoric for the moment.

But, if you came at me with a rusty spoon and forced me... i'd go tzeentch.

Brother Othorio
16-04-2005, 05:13
i shall stand firm! i shall not be corrupted! at least.. not until the daemonettes come on to me, then i'm so screwed, er, metaphorically..

(in short, i would like to serve slaanesh in exchange for becoming a Gor with a set of extra arms that are chitinous and end in crab claws, and i have to get my own band of Daemonettes, and some magical powers..)

taer
16-04-2005, 05:20
Instant convert to undivided...then I can be everything!!!! Like Sparky the wonder hampster!

devolutionary
16-04-2005, 05:59
I couldn't go Chaos. I'm too stubborn, I like to do most things myself. They can take my complaint calls if they want though :p

daemonhuntermoe
16-04-2005, 23:14
Seeing as how I'm the fool that I am, I would fall for Slaanesh (darn it). WHY? He'd just promise me that the girl of my dreams. It's Slaanesh. Who has been able to resist those temptations that were not SoB or Gks?

Black Ambience
16-04-2005, 23:18
Seeing as how I'm the fool that I am, I would fall for Slaanesh (darn it). WHY? He'd just promise me that the girl of my dreams. It's Slaanesh. Who has been able to resist those temptations that were not SoB or Gks?

Easy, someone who has already given himself over to the worship of an even greater god! That would of course be Tzeentch. :p

The pestilent 1
19-04-2005, 00:15
Nurgle.
Revelling in the inevitability of corruption and decay.
watching as i gloriously accpet lord nurgles gifts, laughing like a school-girl as those unblievers around me are struck down by the same gifts.
to revel in the ruins of a civilisation so corrupt that they didnt note their death until it was far. far too late.
(see: the song of death, liber chaotica: nurgle)

in other words: i want immunity, i may accpet that it will happen, but that doesnt mean im not above selling my soul to not feel the pain.

Angron20
20-04-2005, 05:04
khorne. The martial pride ideal clicks with me. I can see how people use him to become a better warrior. Blood and violence would just be a way of paying him back on that path to deamonhood. Also..its not like its hard to find a good fight in these story lines. I also want a bad ass deamon weapon.. "look mom what i found!! isn't it cool!!!!"

Azhrahg
20-04-2005, 10:48
Except for Khorne, I guess it pretty much depends on who gets to me first.

Nurgle could easily do the "I have made your son mortally ill, and unless you convert he dies". Sign me in.
Tzeentch - well as big as my head is, I just don't see myself not beeing outsmarted by the changer of ways. If he wants me, I don't see how I could awoid it - afterall if I found a way, it would only be a clever ploy fooling me into his service.
Slaanesh - I'm only human afterall...

Khorne is the only one who couldn't get me in, as mindless slaughter just isn't my thing - even if he tried the revenge card on me, I would be more inclined to go to his brothers for a more subtle revenge.

Azhrahg.

Off course this would be different if I had a God Emperor to help keep my faith strong, alas I don't.

Flame Boy
23-04-2005, 18:46
I guess I would fall to either the selfish pursuits of Slaanesh or I would go to Father Nurgle for help. More likely the latter. It's the power for the jaded.

"Hey, I'm a rotting bag of pustular filth! Do your worst, if can't be any worse than I am already!"
It seems to be a wholly cynical attitude that I probably would have fallen for when I was at uni. It wouldn't be immortality I would be craving, more likely to see people I didn't like being blessed with suffering like I felt I was. When you have a tendency to throw your rattle out of the pram and cry "it's not fair!" like I have done before, then I guess Nurgle's the one to choose.

Also, it seems more impressive to make your enemies blister, erupt into pustules, tear apart at the seams and crumble to dust than any other unpleasant fate the chaos gods can bestow on them.

I suppose Nurgle is for the jaded and the desperate, mostly for the people that don't think things can get any worse for them. It's less likely that you are tricked into joining with Nurgle than other gods in my opinion, more that you just give up and accept it as the only alternative.

The pestilent 1
23-04-2005, 23:28
and thats the beuty of Papa Nurgle.
he doesnt trick so much as offer an alternative.

Azhrahg
25-04-2005, 07:14
and thats the beuty of Papa Nurgle.
he doesnt trick so much as offer an alternative.

I'm really not so sure about that. When he is the one responsible for the sickness you or your loved ones are dying of, and he offers an alternative to dying, I'd say your pretty close to a trick - he is forcing your hand to say the least.

The pestilent 1
25-04-2005, 22:54
sickness and death are inevitable.
bloodshed, excess and out-and-out trickery are not.
i stand by my claim that nurgle is a pure force.

Incognito
27-04-2005, 08:26
I suppose my very own Slaaneshi Daemonette wouldn't be too much to ask. Just for the novelty of it, you know.

Azhrahg
28-04-2005, 07:44
sickness and death are inevitable.
bloodshed, excess and out-and-out trickery are not.
i stand by my claim that nurgle is a pure force.

Sickness and death is only inevitable because of Nurgle and Skavens. Without them there would still be sickness of course, but not at all on the same scale.
Also Nurgle uses sickness strategically to attract/force new followers. He's not just randomly spreading plague (although he does that too of course).

Azhrahg

The pestilent 1
28-04-2005, 15:48
sickness and death are are a natural facsit of mortality.
all that lives must inevitably die.
heck, immortality often has its limits (look at daemons for example)

Besides that Papa Nurgle loves me, he told me so himself :p

that and im willing to sell my soul to no longer feel the pain of life.

Wargamejunkie
29-04-2005, 04:03
I would have to throw in my hat to Khorne. Nothing but mindless violence for the rest of eternity. Makes you forget about all your troubles when you can solve them with an axe.

Warlord Gnashgrod
29-04-2005, 06:47
Well, I would probably go to Tzeentch, as the subtleties, treachery, and convoluted plotting of this entity greatly appeal to me. Sort of like the Fantasy Great Horned Rat.

Bloodthirster90
29-04-2005, 12:08
I'd go with Tzeench. I like the thought of turning to dust, crreping up on some unsespecting chav, rematerialising and casting some evil magic on his ass!

Robot 2000
01-05-2005, 21:52
*ahem*

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

none of this namby-pamby plague infection or spellcasting for me, to say nothing of slaanesh. Blood, skulls and death all the way ;)

Hellebore
04-05-2005, 06:40
I would never turn to Chaos.

Why?

I haven't turned to Judeo-christian teachings, what makes you think I'll turn to another religion?

hellebore

Forgotmytea
04-05-2005, 09:29
Why?

I haven't turned to Judeo-christian teachings, what makes you think I'll turn to another religion?

Unfortunately, as many people have said, Chaos has multiple lures. Does Judeo-christianity offer immortality, or to be a God amongst men, to wield ultimate knowledge, to be immune to death, or to have a plethora of lovers and adorers who would die for you? Chaos can offer that and more, and even if you're not into the whole immortality-evil-thing, just think of the ways you could use the gifts to better the world - end wars, end pointless debates, make the world a better place. That's the lure of chaos...

Oh well, time for my morning worship to our one true Lord Tzeentch *dons sacraficial robes and picks up Bedlam staff* ;)

lord_blackfang
04-05-2005, 23:10
Tzeentch, of course. Power to change the world for the good, power to stop injustice, power to improve society.

Hope. If you've ever looked at the world and thought "That's just not right!", then Tzeentch is your man. He can give you the power, but at what price?

It's about a lot more than shooting flames from your fingertips.


Tzeentch all the way, baby! Sure, I'd almost certainly die as a pawn in one of his schemes, but I'd at least have a chance...
Being able to change traffic lights with a glance would also be a cool bonus... :D

sulla
07-05-2005, 01:25
I would never turn to Chaos.

Why?

I haven't turned to Judeo-christian teachings, what makes you think I'll turn to another religion?

hellebore

That's the thing though. Our religions, like almost all religions in the warhammer universes, are a leap of faith. There are no physical manifestations of them. The benefits of our religions are spiritual and the benefits mostly only come after you shuffle off the mortal coil.

Chaos is different. Chaos worshippers get real, physical effects to their worship. The effects of chaos worship are more akin to bodybuilding with steroids - the reward is far and above what you can acchieve with normal work and dedication. And like steroids, there are side effects but they are usually not enough to outweigh the benefits.

Immortality, increased intelligence or knowledge, charisma, physical attributes...all are on offer by falling under the dark gods' sway.

If you were offered the chance tomake yourself whole again after a dehabilitating crash, or to be able to convince people to buy your shoddy products because of your god(s)-given talent with the gab, or to get any girls you wanted, or the body you always wanted etc but didn't have to put in any work above your attendance at the local cult temple, can you really say you wouldn't take it? Remember, these are not like the promises of our religions or a Tony Robbins tape. They will really happen if you go through with it.

Of course, there are consequences to your actions, prices you must pay :eek: . But you wouldn't know about that at the time...

It would be very hard to turn that offer down.

Azhrahg
09-05-2005, 09:15
That's the thing though. Our religions, like almost all religions in the warhammer universes, are a leap of faith. There are no physical manifestations of them. The benefits of our religions are spiritual and the benefits mostly only come after you shuffle off the mortal coil.

Chaos is different. Chaos worshippers get real, physical effects to their worship. The effects of chaos worship are more akin to bodybuilding with steroids - the reward is far and above what you can acchieve with normal work and dedication. And like steroids, there are side effects but they are usually not enough to outweigh the benefits.

Immortality, increased intelligence or knowledge, charisma, physical attributes...all are on offer by falling under the dark gods' sway.

If you were offered the chance tomake yourself whole again after a dehabilitating crash, or to be able to convince people to buy your shoddy products because of your god(s)-given talent with the gab, or to get any girls you wanted, or the body you always wanted etc but didn't have to put in any work above your attendance at the local cult temple, can you really say you wouldn't take it? Remember, these are not like the promises of our religions or a Tony Robbins tape. They will really happen if you go through with it.

Of course, there are consequences to your actions, prices you must pay :eek: . But you wouldn't know about that at the time...

It would be very hard to turn that offer down.

I agree, especially as the only thing you could turn to, for moral support in your struggle not to fall is the emperor, who is actually very much like the christian religion. He doesn't offer you anything here and now - unless you're a battlesister or similar - so the choice stands between imidiate payoff vs promised but unproven longterm payoff.

Azhrahg

The Emperor's Child
21-07-2005, 19:29
I'm sure I would be tempted and can't rule out the possibility I could be persuaded, whenever I hear about some wacko raping and killing a young child or anything like that, I feel like I would do anything to make them feel what pain they've put someone through.

Xander-K
21-07-2005, 20:21
Nurgle means being in tortuous unending pain for all time until your death.

Tzeentch means knowing but not being able to tell.

Khorne means unparalleled close combat prowess in exchange for your sanity.

Slaanesh means eternal pleasure but never being loved.

hmmm well clearly Tzeentch is the best choice here, of course I wouldn't be one of those Rubric fellas i'd be the Sorceror leading them an i'd get all that magic stuff mmm doombolt

just think of the ways you could use the gifts to better the world
you would be a pawn of the chaos gods, you would not do things to better the world there was this tzeentch fantasy special character who grows flowers wherever he walks, but he's just odd.

TheSonOfAbbadon
21-07-2005, 20:27
What about Undivided? That gives you all the uber-pimp mutations without dedicating yourself to one god. Be your own boss in the legions of chaos undivided!

MorningStar
21-07-2005, 20:39
Well I believe if I were to be turned down the path of chaos it would be undivided, sure khorne is awesome when it comes to fighting but hardly any social skills, nurgle... I enjoy not stinking, tzeentch I don't even think I spelled his name right sure that wouldn't make me a good follower, and slaanesh? I really like the way I look. And I hardly believe you would be able to change the world as a follower of tzeentch, of course he might let you think you are then enjoy your pain when you find out it was all an illusion.

Crux
21-07-2005, 20:57
Either Nurgle or Slaanesh.

I think it would be Nurgle, considering that he has already blessed me...

*goes off muttering about his rashes*

Hobo Magic
21-07-2005, 21:51
Nurgle isn't about being dirty, nurgle is about apathy, decay, and entropy. Think of it this way, if you pissed off Khorne, He'd kill you. Slannesh would drive you man, Tzeentch would arrage for your friends to betray you. All nasty stuff, but Nurgle would visit you with misfortune after misfortune destroying everything you knew and loved until you broke down and prayed to him to take away the pain. Now that's badass.

The Venerable Archmage
21-07-2005, 22:05
Khorne - No way, not angry enough
Tzeentch - Tempting, fun forbidden knowledge and so forth, although the mutations are particularly nasty
Nurgle - Not caring about ill health? Yeah, at times that sounds like a reasonable deal
Slaanesh - Where's the dotted line, please?

Yeah, I would fall to Slaanesh in about six seconds.

Inq. Veltane
21-07-2005, 23:56
Well honestly I doubt I would fall. I would be a loyal and staunch servant of the Emperor, not devout to the extent of the Grey Knights but firm enough. Assuming I was trained sufficiently into either the Inquisition or Commissariat then I doubt I would fall. If I was just your average citizen though with a mediocre life on a backwater planet...I don't know. Hidden Knowledge is my weakness...

The pestilent 1
22-07-2005, 00:29
The last i checked, Nurgle was kind(well. ish) to his followers.
immortality at the cost of my physical appearance.
well woopdy doo, oh noes, im an immortal fifteen foot killing machine who is the favoured child of death incarnate, but im so ugly :cries:

Khorne: can see the lure (martial prowess, a god who cares about warriors, whether they be beserkers of honour-bound)
dont really care though.

Tzeentch: the eternal search for knowledge, but one that is hounded by a god and his followers who are the most deceitful thing this side of a black hole.
nah.

Slaanesh: now. correct me if im wrong. but all the fluff on Slaanesh since. well. ever. has stated that his/her/its followers soon lose all sense of emotion, and they eternally search for somthing to give them even the slightest glimour of pleasure, or heck. pain!
why the hell would anyone follow a god that promises excess, but stops you from feeling it :wtf:


so. Nurgle.
but ofcourse ive already noted that on this thread one page back..
eh, post it again.



Nurgle.
Revelling in the inevitability of corruption and decay.
watching as i gloriously accept lord nurgles gifts, laughing like a school-girl as those unblievers around me are struck down by the same gifts.
to revel in the ruins of a civilisation so corrupt that they didnt note their death until it was far. far too late.

in other words: i want immunity, i may accpet that it will happen, but that doesnt mean im not above selling my soul to not feel the pain.

Freak Ona Leash
22-07-2005, 01:43
Malal:Because I can then have a reason to say "I hate you all" ;)

Bmaxwell
22-07-2005, 01:55
Khorne: possiably i have a very bad tempe but then again i love magic/psionics to much
Slaanesh:well since im a teenager he kindof has me by the hormones
nurgle: acuattly when ever i get sick i have the weridest strain of it (had streph once all the cultures came back negative so the dr gave me something taht would only kill streph wolla im better)
tzeecth: useing psichic powers i think he has me by the hook

TenTailedCat
22-07-2005, 02:11
Never, I'd be strong for the Emperor. Unless it was slannesh, with the daemonettes....
Sex, my eternal weakness.

Brusilov
22-07-2005, 06:37
While many of the aspects of Chaos have appeal to me, on this matter it also comes down to circumstances and maybe the gods wanting you to fall, thus giving a nudge in the right direction, which would create a cascade of events leading to your turning to Chaos.

There are several solutions as far as I'm concerned:
- the most likely one: all hail the Immortal Emperor of Mankind! Death to the Darkness! aka I'm not falling because I believe strongly in the Emperor (especially knowing all that I do about Chaos)
- Chaos Undivided: Chaos in its true glory, the multitude of gods and princes, this allows you to tread the path to daemonhood, while avoiding to become single-minded and formated by the beliefs of your god
- if I had to pick one god out of the big four: Tzeentch, the quest for knowledge (not to mention sorcery, that'd be an added bonus) would be my downfall (not surprising here.

But truly, considering how many people succeed to become daemons when compared to how many are turned into mindless spawns, I'd hesitate strongly.

Dr Death
22-07-2005, 11:05
Slaanesh: now. correct me if im wrong. but all the fluff on Slaanesh since. well. ever. has stated that his/her/its followers soon lose all sense of emotion, and they eternally search for somthing to give them even the slightest glimour of pleasure, or heck. pain!

The deal with slaanesh is essentially you become a sensation junkie, every feeling and twitch becomes excitment and pleasure. The downside of this is that eventually you become immune to the "lesser" pleasures and only the extremes of sensation remain of any value to you. In one story, a follower of slaanesh is dying and his only thought is regret at how empty and numb the experience is rather than the glorious feverpitch of pleasure his pantron had promised.

Dr Death

hivefleetcarrion
22-07-2005, 14:43
either slannesh or thzeentch.... nothing says i love you like a blast of wind of chaos...... i would make everything burn...... though i have to say i love slaaneshs ideas aswell....rendering people down to make drugs is pretty dam spaced out i like that style,,,,, and the deamonettes as pleasure toys could be cool, as long as im not being used as a pleasure toy by another cultist....

and with magic powers i could get that pay rise i want......
boss "you cant have payrise"
me "spawn boss"

Lord-Warlock
22-07-2005, 17:12
Slaanesh or Tzeentch, here too. I'm too healthy and non-depressed to be tempted by Grandpoppy, and the Lord of Mindless Bashing holds little appeal for me.

Slaanesh's "make your own paradise!" approach could work for me, but Tzeentch's plethora of knowledge and magic, and not to mention the whole Hope thing, would probably get me. Of course this is assuming I fall - being quite lawful the anarchy (and not to mention eventual screaming damnation) of Chaos-worship would turn me off somewhat.

Brusilov
22-07-2005, 17:18
I think Dr Death you're just pointing at one side of Slaanesh. The whole point about the Prince of Chaos is that he knows your most secret desires (hence the name Keeper of Secrets for his great daemons) and make it possible for you to realise it.
It's not simply the sensation junkies that turned to She-Who-Thirsts, but also artists who seek the inspiration to create work of art. Slaanesh dwells into the darkest recess of your mind and bring all your desires to the fore by making them possible.

The people you mention Dr Death are the bored nobles who seek out the greatest thrills to have their life make sense. They eventually turn to Slaanesh because she promises to make their dreams come true.

And this is where something does not quite fit in my mind. I can see why the Emperor's Children did turn. They though to be the embodiement of human perfection, especially as warriors, and Slaanesh offered them that. I'll have to check why they became sensation junkies along the way in the IA, because that's what does little sense to me.

Shadowspite
22-07-2005, 18:31
I'd fall frighteningly easily to Slaanesh. And not because of the sex thing (an aspect greatly overemphasised by the simple-minded), or even the pleasure/pain duality (although that's certainly attractive to me). To have absolutely no barriers to my creative impulses, to be, quite literally, divinely inspired and to have the skill and artistry to be able to portray the infinite glories of the universe (and beyond) in a form that mere mortals could appreciate and worship in awe (even if it drove them insane); to know that I could put absolutely anything I could picture in my imagination down on paper or in writing or in sculpture in exact detail and as vividly as it appeared in my head... I would sell my soul in a heartbeat for that.

Dr Death
22-07-2005, 18:42
Well, i was only commenting on the issue the poster i quoted was refering to, brusilov. That aside Slaanesh is defined as the god of excess and pleasure. Perfection is another theme but is linked to the primary ones rather than being among them (except in the case of the emperors children), artists seek the ability to create excessively beautiful things etc. Regardless, slaanesh is all about the sins of excess and "excessive art" is something you very rarely come across except in certain golden deamon entrants peices.......

Dr Death

Hobo Magic
22-07-2005, 21:07
And this is where something does not quite fit in my mind. I can see why the Emperor's Children did turn. They though to be the embodiement of human perfection, especially as warriors, and Slaanesh offered them that. I'll have to check why they became sensation junkies along the way in the IA, because that's what does little sense to me.

The quest for perfection aspect of Slannesh is underrated. Its why Slannesh should be opposed to Nurgle, not Khorne. A Slanneshite could at least appreciate the desire of a Khornite to become the supreme warrior or revel in battle fever, but a Nugleite's profound apathy to everything would be utterly alien.

Hobo Magic
22-07-2005, 21:20
one story, a follower of slaanesh is dying and his only thought is regret at how empty and numb the experience is rather than the glorious feverpitch of pleasure his pantron had promised.
Dr Death

I friend of mine was planning on making a slannesh army centered around a slanneshi demon prince who had torn out his own eyes to see what it felt like. Aside from being an amazing model (converted deciever with 'nid arms holding the bloody eyes) I felt it really got at the core of what slannesh does to people.

Brusilov
22-07-2005, 22:01
I disagree, Slaanesh is also about hedonism, while Khorne is about discipline. Dr Death is right, Slaanesh is about following one's own desire to excess. The problem there is that Khorn could be said to be following his desire for bloodshed and carnage to excess...

Hmm, I'm confused, maybe I'm tired after a long week. :rolleyes:

Hobo Magic
22-07-2005, 23:19
Khorne is about discipline. Dr Death is right, Slaanesh is about following one's own desire to excess. The problem there is that Khorn could be said to be following his desire for bloodshed and carnage to excess...
Hmm, I'm confused, maybe I'm tired after a long week. :rolleyes:

Khorne is about simplicity and straigthforwardness, Tzeentch is about subtly and misdirection. Slaanesh is endlessly seeking sensation (think sensates from planescape) while nurgle is about abandoning care for all things.

Shadowspite
23-07-2005, 08:49
Khorne and Slaanesh hating each other due to being diametrically opposed never made sense to me. I rather think it is their similarity in appeal and overlap in concept that causes their intense rivalry. They both appeal primarily to passionate types (whereas Tzeentch appeals primarily to intellectuals and ideallists and Nurgle to cynics and depressives). Very creative people also often have a tendency towards anger and even violence, or at the very least a certain 'volatility' of temper. The two seem to go hand in hand.

John Lennon once said that his pacifism, as well as his musical creativity, were both motivated by the knowledge that he was a naturally very violent person. The only 'artists' I know, or know of, who are not emotionally volatile are really very uninspired, unoriginal and mediocre artists.

Just about any kind of person I can think of who would fall easily to Khorne could also fall easily to Slaanesh and vice versa.

There's a similar overlap and 'competition for followers' between Tzeentch and Nurgle, IMO. Both Powers embody change and appeal to those who are dissatisfied with their lot or with the way the world works. The difference is that Tzeentch appeals to a sense of 'progress', to misguided hopes that things can be made perfect if only we tear everything down and redesign society. Tzeentch's followers don't realise that 'Utopia' means 'no place' and that it can never exist.

Nurgle's followers realise that change won't make anything better, but they don't care. Rather than wanting to rise above the rest of the world, they want to drag everything down into the sewers with them. When an ideallist liberal dreaming of a utopian future becomes a cynical conservative harking back to the past in their old age, Nurgle has triumphed over Tzeentch.

At the risk of going too far into real-world 'politics', the Hitchens brothers are a good example of very similar people going in opposite directions with equal fervour - one to (Tzeentchian) neoconservative interventionism and one to (Nurglesque) isolationist paleoconservatism.

I find it is far easier to divide real people (either acquaintances or famous/historical figures) into Slaanesh/Khorne and Nurgle/Tzeentch groups than it is to decide whether one would go to Slaanesh or to Khorne, or to Nurgle or to Slaanesh.

Umm... so the point is, maybe the most intense rivalries between the Chaos Powers are caused by competition for similar sorts of people as worshippers, rather than by huge differences.

Jal'knock
23-07-2005, 14:15
I'm not sure which of the chaos powers I'd be drawn to if I would be converted to Chaos. As we have very little or no info on the minor gods I have no basis to form an opinion on them. Of the four minor gods Slaanesh would probably be the one I'd follow, simply because of the number 6. Beyond that maybe Tzeentch.

ryng_sting
23-07-2005, 15:09
Difficult. Where's the line where strong emotions end and the Chaos gods begin?

(i) Khorne doesn't just appeal to the violent and the angry; he appeals to every soldier who forgets why he kills, every man who longs to dominate or control events or people, and every man who hates.

(ii) Slaanesh isn't just the god of sadism and perversion; decadence, laziness and every urge to gratify the self empowers him. The source of pleasure is irrelevant, so long as it's experienced. He/She can gain power from the enjoyment of food or achievement as much as from carnality.

(iii) Nurgle is despair, morbidity, bitterness, conservatism, hopelessness, the urge to endure suffering rather than risk change, and apathy. 'Nuff said. (Were Nurgle real, you can not help but feel that he would be the patron god of Great Britain.)

(iv) Tzeentch: the urge to change things, to scheme, to learn, and knowledge and research into all things arcance can all potentially lead to him.

It would take someone pretty special to steer clear of all of these, wouldn't it?

Col.Gravis
23-07-2005, 16:36
Gah people falling left right and center for Chaos? Weak minded fools! I hate you all! ;)

(So yes then I think that would be Malal for me lol)

Xeres
23-07-2005, 17:21
I would gladly convert to Slaanesh Because of 3 things:

1/ Slaanesh daemonettes (need i say anymore ;))

2/ Unlike Tzeentch you are not a pawn in his endless games so with Slaanesh you know more or less where you stand (allways as near to the deamonettes as possable :angel: )

3/ Daemonettes.......... (dam allready listed this :))


As far as i see it there are really only 2 choices for most people that of Nurgle or Slaanesh. With khorne you better be a dam good fighter or you wont be lasting long. Tzeentch has to be the most odd one of the lot, People say they would join him to change the world for the better but they dont relise that Tzeentch is all about constent change so all the changes you wanted to make would be remade a different way a second later.

Xeres

Brusilov
23-07-2005, 18:24
I disagree sting, it would not be that hard to not follow one of the gods, and instead walking the way of Chaos Undivided. First IMHO it's because all those gods are but aspects of the true glory of Chaos and you cannot understand Chaos if you don't understand them all. If you limit yourself to any of them, you blind them to what Chaos truly means, because it is the Big Four and much more.

And then there is the fact that people are not specifically inclined toward one emotion and thus one god.

Xeres
23-07-2005, 19:40
another good point, Even Brusilov could not resist a deamonette and would be converted to Slaanesh within a second (faster when he hears what the deamonette will do with him if he signs on the dotted line ;) )

Brusilov
23-07-2005, 22:20
Frankly, the daemonette would not what would get me to convert to Slaanesh, it would be the icing on the cake, nothing more.
And frankly, because of my Moorcockian approach to the 40k universe, I could only follow Chaos Undivided. Proof is that I have a Word Bearer army, the only CSM actively worshipping Chaos Undivided.

Xander-K
23-07-2005, 22:40
it seems a lot of people are confused about what slaanesh stands for, if it was excess then why don't you see hugely overweight emperors children? surely gluttony is a form of excess, and the EC are supposed to all be "pretty boys" (or thats how I read it).

I think you need to emphasize the idea that slaanesh represents a drive for perfection, so bad habit excess' would not be in the equation here.

The reason Khorne don't get on with Slaanesh is because Khorne are a very straightforward brutal proud group of warriors, whereas Slaanesh tend to pamper themselves and tend to play with their opponents in a sick game of death (rather than khorne who feel the need for speed when it comes to bloodletting).

Xeres
23-07-2005, 22:42
well put Xander

ryng_sting
23-07-2005, 22:49
I disagree sting, it would not be that hard to not follow one of the gods, and instead walking the way of Chaos Undivided. First IMHO it's because all those gods are but aspects of the true glory of Chaos and you cannot understand Chaos if you don't understand them all. If you limit yourself to any of them, you blind them to what Chaos truly means, because it is the Big Four and much more.



Yet there are armies and devotees dedicated to each of the four, as well we know. Each is made of people who have given themselves to one god, or rather, given themselves to the drives they represent. And few mortal followers of Chaos understand such an over-reaching concept as Chaos Undivided. Fewer still actively wish to. People can unconsciously further the aims of a single god by their most dominant drives; but they have to consciously choose to honour Chaos as a singular, if diverse, entity. Undivided requires a degree of prior knowledge the Big Four do not.


And then there is the fact that people are not specifically inclined toward one emotion and thus one god.

I assume your acquaintance with the 'Riding the Avalanche' part of Liber Chaotica Tzeentch was somewhat brief.

Excess is an incidental part of Slaanesh. Ultimately, He/She is birthed from pleasure - aesthetic, romantic, sensual, carnal, even culinary. The point, so legeantly made in Liber Chaotica Slaanesh, was that any form of pleasure is grist to His/Her mill. It's easy to imagine his interest in sadism or debauchery. But to imagine that love, affection or aesthetic bliss might empower him too...that is at once harder to imagine, and just as true.

Lord_krok
23-07-2005, 22:51
I would so be converted to Tzeentch, I am the wierdest of the people I know, and I always liked the fact of change. (did anyone get that?)

Brusilov
24-07-2005, 09:09
But the same can be said with every god sting, they do not feed from one emotion, but from an array of them. As for Tzeentch for example, it is not simply a lust for knowledge that feeds him, not even ambition, but the mere desire to change one's destiny, to improve one's position in society. Or Khorne, as you rightly put, is not simply carnage and bloodshed, but the will to dominate, fighting for fighting's sake...

The worshippers of a specific god become single-minded in their pursuit of these emotions, to the exclusion of everything else. I would argue it takes a special kind of people, as well as time, to become thus. These people are also usually favoured by their gods as a result of their dedication.
Just look at the northern tribes in WH for example, most of them pay homage to each of the gods, just as the people of the Old World pay hommage to many of their gods, depending on the circumstances.

Gavmo
25-07-2005, 01:25
I think i'd like to fall to Slishy if I had to, but i'd probably fall to Khorne cause i'm a really angry person. :mad:

cailus
25-07-2005, 09:13
I'd sell my soul to the Devil for a cup holder in my 1994 Honda Civic.

Brusilov
25-07-2005, 11:44
You're so cheap cailus, if you're selling your soul to Chaos, it'd have to be for something worth more than a simple cup-holder :rolleyes:
Chaos craves your soul, according to the laws of supply and demand, you could set a much higher price than this. After all you're condemning yourself to eternal damnation, so make it worth you while.

athamas
25-07-2005, 11:46
If.... and only if i was to fall, i think i would end up with tzentch!


i mean all that magic being thrown around! and if you are powerfull enough you can stop all those nasty mutations!

Crube
25-07-2005, 11:47
I'd fall depressingly quickly really...

Either Tzeentch or Slaanesh depending on my mood when they got to me....

mirakel_jocke
25-07-2005, 12:14
Well I think I would go for undivided, like Word Bearers! I mean to bea able to focus on all the gods and none of them at the same time can be really helpful before you choose wich one of them you want to dedicate youself a little further for!

Otherwise Tzeentch!

/Mirakel_Jocke

cailus
25-07-2005, 13:11
You're so cheap cailus, if you're selling your soul to Chaos, it'd have to be for something worth more than a simple cup-holder.

But do you know how much I crave a cup holder? I need a cup holder more than I need food or air. It tears at every corner of my soul that my Honda does not have a cupholder.

I NEED A CUP HOLDER GOSH DARNIT!!!! :evilgrin:

Crube
25-07-2005, 13:23
But do you know how much I crave a cup holder? I need a cup holder more than I need food or air. It tears at every corner of my soul that my Honda does not have a cupholder.

I NEED A CUP HOLDER GOSH DARNIT!!!! :evilgrin:


If i promise to buy you a cup holder, can i have your soul (think of me as the 6th chaos power) - I promise I'll look after it... :evilgrin:

Freak Ona Leash
25-07-2005, 13:43
What? No love for Malal? Comn, he would give you teh power to strike back at everyone who has done you wrong. Remember that guy on the street who gave you a funny look? Malal can kill him. Your boss who just fired you? Malal will kill him in some horrifying yet hilarious way. Random people who you dont like? Malal can probally give them acne or hemroids. Malal is the nicest of the Chaos gods, so why am I his only supporter? :cries: Of course, no more going to those Slaaneshi orgies or Khornate raves...

Brusilov
25-07-2005, 13:48
This is why you must turn to the worship of Chaos Undivided, you can call upon Malal when you need it, but you can still go to the Slaaneshi orgies, plot with the Tzeentchians, fight in the pits with the Khornate psychos and revel in your own downfall with the Nurglites.

Ruuku
25-07-2005, 16:50
How easily would YOU be converted to chaos?

Ohh too late :evilgrin:

DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR EVEN THOUGH HE IS PRACTICALLY DEAD!

Mr.terminatorbob
26-07-2005, 02:43
I'd fall frighteningly easily to Slaanesh. And not because of the sex thing (an aspect greatly overemphasised by the simple-minded), or even the pleasure/pain duality (although that's certainly attractive to me). To have absolutely no barriers to my creative impulses, to be, quite literally, divinely inspired and to have the skill and artistry to be able to portray the infinite glories of the universe (and beyond) in a form that mere mortals could appreciate and worship in awe (even if it drove them insane); to know that I could put absolutely anything I could picture in my imagination down on paper or in writing or in sculpture in exact detail and as vividly as it appeared in my head... I would sell my soul in a heartbeat for that.
Slaanesh here to easily hands down