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Grunge
30-11-2009, 22:12
I can't find official info on these, so I hereby request your help:

1 - Harpies

2 - DoC Furies

3 - DoC Flamers

4 - DE Hydra

5 - DoC Bloodthirster

6 - DoC Daemon Prince

7 - Lizardmen Stegadon (I assume all versions are the same size)

8 - Carnosaur


Thanks in advance and sorry if all these were posted somewhere else (where I couldn't find it)

shartmatau
30-11-2009, 22:20
Well of these you could look at the model and figure it out. The only one not immediately available would be the Daemon Prince, where you could look is at Be'Lakor. Who I believe is on a 50mm as other monsters are, but he could be a 40.

Grunge
30-11-2009, 22:26
I can reckon must of them but I still can't be sure, that's why I came here for double checking

Rodman49
01-12-2009, 03:05
3 - DoC Flamers
25x25

4 - DE Hydra
50x100

5 - DoC Bloodthirster
50x50

6 - DoC Daemon Prince
50x50

7 - Lizardmen Stegadon (I assume all versions are the same size)
50x100

8 - Carnosaur
50x50 (I would mount on 50x100 to fit better)

WusteGeist
01-12-2009, 05:09
I can't find official info on these, so I hereby request your help:

1 - Harpies
20mm
2 - DoC Furies
25mm
3 - DoC Flamers
25mm
4 - DE Hydra
"NEW" Chariot Base
5 - DoC Bloodthirster
50mm
6 - DoC Daemon Prince
50mm
7 - Lizardmen Stegadon (I assume all versions are the same size)
"NEW" Chariot Base
8 - Carnosaur
50mm

Thanks in advance and sorry if all these were posted somewhere else (where I couldn't find it)

These answers are based on the bases that come with the box sets. No I do not own all of these models but have played against each and everyone at least once.

Taishar
01-12-2009, 05:40
The previous poster is correct in all instances.


Cheers

Milgram
01-12-2009, 06:28
demon prince used to be on 40mm, so it is legal to play an old demon prince on it's original base - same as with old dragons and giants.

Taishar
01-12-2009, 16:28
Yes, it's always legal to play with the bases that came with the model.


Cheers

Milgram
02-12-2009, 06:20
though most tournaments around here require you to put warmachines on bases. but... that's tournament specific. :)

tarrasque
02-12-2009, 06:57
in that case i wonder what the screaming scull catapolt and the cascket use for base?

Milgram
02-12-2009, 08:26
they say 50mm bases for warmachines. however, almost only bolt throwers fit on them. :) I had my catapult on a chariot base, same with doomdiver (including 2 crew members) and rock lobba. this is mainly for template weapon and charge reach purposes.

Zarryiosiad
02-12-2009, 13:59
How about the Slann Mage Priest? 40X40 or 50X50?

Taishar
02-12-2009, 15:29
50mm. I've never seen a tournament yet in my area that requires (or even mentions) that warmachines should be on bases.


Cheers

decker_cky
02-12-2009, 16:10
Wait....Belakor is the only daemon prince on a 50mm base isn't he? That means daemon princes should technically be on 40mm bases, doesn't it?

shartmatau
02-12-2009, 16:21
For daemon princes I would just go by the US chart in the BRB. Which would put it on either a 40 or 50. Frankly the difference is negligible and wouldn't matter much in game.

the only real difference being touching 4 models instead of 3, and that is only against 25mm based models.

Milgram
03-12-2009, 06:30
there are many other differences: e.g. you can not charge a hydra and not get in contact with the handlers.

the one downside for a demon prince with 40mm base is in WoC where he has a slightly smaler terror range. else it is a must to put him on a 40mm - allthough this is 'cheating' if you use the new model or belakor, which are sold on 50mm. :)

shartmatau
03-12-2009, 14:21
there are many other differences: e.g. you can not charge a hydra and not get in contact with the handlers.

the one downside for a demon prince with 40mm base is in WoC where he has a slightly smaler terror range. else it is a must to put him on a 40mm - allthough this is 'cheating' if you use the new model or belakor, which are sold on 50mm. :)

Well you still do make contact because you have to line up maximized, so the corners would be touching at least one handler. So even a 40mm base will touch both the monster and the handlers.

and frankly the 10mm difference in base size is only 5mm to each side. So if your concerned about terror range being reduced thats a bit silly, as its only reduced by 5mm.

I stand by my statement, the difference is negligible.

Milgram
04-12-2009, 06:49
nope. hydra discussion. if you charge a monster&handler unit, only the monster counts. the handlers are then lined up like skirmishers. as you can line up in the center of a monster, the handlers will be placed behind the hydra. if you do not agree with that, then feel free to look up at least two threads concerning this matter.

the 5mm to each side is in fact 10mm. because if you want to terrorise unit A, you have to get 5mm closer to that unit, which will leave you 1cm further away from unit B. that's only 2/5 inch, but how often did you end up with situations, where 1/8 inch was the difference.

also 3 or 4 models can be a big difference in a 6 wide unit with a champion or any unit with a misplaced character.