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Ghil
05-12-2009, 15:30
This is my first skaven army, and I thought of going with:

Chieftain
Chieftain BSB
Plague Censer Bearers x5
Plague Monks x10
Clanrats x25
Clanrats x25
Clanrats x25
Clanrats x25
Slaves x40
Slaves x40
Slaves x40

What do you think?

Xynok
05-12-2009, 17:45
Plague monks in a 10 man unit is a waste of time... not worth anything
Right size for clanrats
Slaves should be 20/21 with maybe a muso.
Not enough hitting power simple as that.
You'll swarm but nothing else, chances of being blown up are high.
How are you going to equip your chars? What about commands?

Foegnasher
05-12-2009, 17:51
i concur, with the monks ethier do it or dont. you dont need to take them for the PCBs anymore, so lose em if you arnt going at least 20-25.

what about your commands? mu, banners, vets? what?

if you got no shooting, go ahead and take the points from the monks and take the stormbanner.

looks like you got the beginnings of a proper horde, there pal. PM me if you got any questions on HOrde tactics, the One True Way(tm) of the skaven.

Tarian
05-12-2009, 18:01
I do think that the slave units are a little large. I'd rather have 6x 20 than 3x 40. Also, you probably want something heavy hitting other than the PCBs. Maybe some warmachines/weapon teams?

Foegnasher
05-12-2009, 20:11
i was getting to that, T.

allthough 6 units of 20 would make this a first class horde at 1k. mooks EVERYWHERE.

Tarian
05-12-2009, 20:19
Not to mention that this 1k list has more models than my 2250 list T.T

Ghil
06-12-2009, 04:09
thanks for the advices guys! here's the updated, I took out the plague monks. gave a Storm banner to my second chieftain, equipped the first and my clanrats, and I'm down to 951 points (with a head count of 227 :p). What do you think I should do with the remaining points, or is there something else I should be removing/adding?

Chieftain,General, Great Weapon, Shield; 51.0 Pts

Chieftain, Battle Standard, Storm Banner; 120.0 Pts

5 Plague Censer Bearers; 80.0 Pts

25 Clanrats, Shield, Standard, Mu; 115.0 Pts

25 Clanrats, Shield, Standard, Mu; 115.0 Pts

25 Clanrats, Shield, Standard, Mu; 115.0 Pts

25 Clanrats, Shield, Standard, Mu; 115.0 Pts


20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

20 Skavenslaves; 40.0 Pts

Casting Pool: 2

Dispel Pool: 2

Models in Army: 227

Thanks again!

Foegnasher
06-12-2009, 05:09
Not to mention that this 1k list has more models than my 2250 list T.T

that's cuz you suck at skaven. ;)

Teh Horde. Learn it, Live it, Love it.

Foegnasher
06-12-2009, 05:12
well since a majority of your army IS slaves? Musicians wouldn't be a bad idea.

that, and go ahead and put some protection on your chief. keep him alive.

Ghil
06-12-2009, 05:55
Mus for all the slaves, Heavy Armour for the two chieftain, and spears 3 units of Slaves, and I'm at 1001. It will make a fine Horde I think :)

Tarian
06-12-2009, 16:42
that's cuz you suck at skaven. ;)

Teh Horde. Learn it, Live it, Love it.

Eh... I still have 110 more models than my 2250 HE list, small steps Foegnasher, small steps.

@Ghil: That's a LOT of bodies on the board, I'd only worry about the "super elites" like Chaos Warriors or Sword Masters, but if nothing else, you have enough bodies to hopefully have them flub an attack roll then run them over. :evilgrin:

Xynok
06-12-2009, 23:38
Mus for all the slaves, Heavy Armour for the two chieftain, and spears 3 units of Slaves, and I'm at 1001. It will make a fine Horde I think :)

Fail post.... Chieftains have heavy armour as basic... spears in slaves is a collosal waste

More importantly however it's looking better... I'd still put in something with a bit more OOMPH. You'll probably end up screaming and rocking in a corner after painting that many units without having enough points to field...

tricker53
07-12-2009, 03:50
see if you cant get shield/halberd on the BSB. i suggest dropping the muso from the BSBs unit in order to do so; they shouldnt be breaking anyway.

id also try for another PCB unit so you can hold both flanks, not just one.

Stumpy
07-12-2009, 04:21
If your opponent knows about skaven and you know how to use them, they should be terrified. That many M5 L9 blocks are a terrifying prospect- at 2k I have trouble with normal units of slaves with the general and BSB nearby.

Ghil
07-12-2009, 05:21
well If Spears on slaves are a total waste as Stuart said (in a jerky way, but hey, not everyone is blessed with communications skills...) I can put another 5 Plague Censer Bearers and still be 8 points short. It really is taking shape though, thanks to all your advices :)
For the Heavy Armor on Chieftain: meh, I didn't bother to check the army book and went straight into Army Builder...and it removes points for the Heavy. A quick check-up in the book and wouldn't you know, you where right :) Thanks for pointing it out in your oh so special way.

Thanks everyone again ;) If you have any more suggestions, I'll be happy to listen :)

Xynok
07-12-2009, 12:20
Sorry my mistake I didn't see it was a post from the original poster .
Thought it was someone giving bad advice so I apologise.