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Spacemunkie
29-01-2006, 10:36
Here you go! Some nice new pics of one of the factions for Rackham's new sci-fi game: AT 43 (catchy, huh? WH40K anyone??:D)

http://barhan.free.fr/salons.php?id_salon=05&id_armee=AT

I reckon they look pretty nifty - functional and a bit ED209. Nice.

I like this though:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/Mkcontra/rackhammech.jpg

Keravin
29-01-2006, 11:01
No sign yet of the painting style and given these are supposed to be sold painted that will have an impact on my view.

I do like the figures. Not bad for single piece plastic.

A neutral shade of black.
29-01-2006, 12:22
They will not be sold painted - the models available to be seen at the Open de Paris were unpainted, and the studio people have announced a new wave of paints to go with AT-43.

For info: that mech you're showing is out of date, and the background has changed from being uchronic to being a banal sci-fi game. The AT-43 sculpts at the Open are well done, but I find them ugly - then again, that's only one of the factions.

Keravin
29-01-2006, 12:46
The feedback from Rackham said they were looking at selling them painted and that part of the delay was to get it sorted so they could have good paint jobs at a decent price.

A neutral shade of black.
29-01-2006, 13:04
Not according to my info, no - and it's straight from the people who talked to the conceptors at the Open yesterday.

Keravin
29-01-2006, 13:51
Then it's changed since the Yearly report.

Heard of Till?
29-01-2006, 13:58
They remind me somewhat of Nitto's SF3D/Maschinen Krieger models. Which is a good thing. I really hope we won't be seeing anything like the mecha inspired model in the pic. I find it incredibly bland and generic.

Spacemunkie
29-01-2006, 20:20
Plenty of scope for lots of styles. The more Mechs, the better I say! :D

Pokpoko
30-01-2006, 17:49
yuck.i do hope that the other factions will look better,because this looks more like a well-detailed toy than a wargame piece.
*edit*
i mean the minis in link of course,the one posted is cute:D

Hlokk
30-01-2006, 22:49
I love it, i think it looks great.

The stuff on the link tho, jesus on a pogostick, thats awful. Those mechs look like frogs :(

5deadly
31-01-2006, 17:23
AT-43 this is nice stuff... not sure where to post it but it is news and sci-fi sooo...
http://barhan.free.fr/salons.php?id_salon=05&id_armee=AT

boogle
31-01-2006, 18:15
mind you they might fit in with the Elysians as they are actually properly proportioned

Elusive71
31-01-2006, 18:20
Looks like they're finally getting that game rolling. Looks awesome. Thanks for the link.

5deadly
31-01-2006, 23:35
no problem too bad this stuff can't be seen in a more open and viewed forum (kinda get burried here ;) ) but I have hopes this game works out good.

Darkseer
01-02-2006, 09:35
Goddamn, there was me wanting to quit little models and Rackham, the best miniature makers in the world release anime mechas.

I'm sorry wallet, it's time to be raped again...

Keravin
01-02-2006, 10:04
Not according to my info, no - and it's straight from the people who talked to the conceptors at the Open yesterday.

Other sources from the UKCORD are saying your info is wrong and that the figures will still be sold painted.

A neutral shade of black.
01-02-2006, 12:56
Other sources from the UKCORD are saying your info is wrong and that the figures will still be sold painted.

Funny, because, again, the people who spoke to the AT43 conceptors said they'd said models would not be sold painted. Anyway, let's not turn this into a "I'm right! You're wrong!" thread.

Elusive71
01-02-2006, 21:46
Just to stir the pot...
I've been speculating on this game for a few months now with one of the fellows who runs my local gaming shop. He's been in communication with either Rackham or someone close to them, speaks with absolute confidence, and he's been saying that they will be pre-painted but is quick to add that the quality will be unlike anything we've seen before. His "source" knows "The Head of Rackham" and apparently the boss is picky to a fault when it comes to quality control in both sculpting and painting. Everything passes over his desk before getting released or published. When making comparisons, I've been told that Rackham boasts that the pre-paints (which will be hand painted!?) will rival anything released by McFarlane Toys (http://www.spawn.com/toys/), who obviously deal in much larger scales!

Personally I'm hoping against pre-paints, but it sounds like if they are, they'll be amazing.

Agnostos
01-02-2006, 21:50
any body knows what scale they will be in? 28 or 54mm?

big squig
03-02-2006, 08:44
The infantry are incredibly meh. The mecs/battlesuits are great though. Very Ghost in the Shell.

Razhem
03-02-2006, 19:26
The plastic infantry is wonderful in my opinion, leaves the cadians in a low level, and I like those too (this supposing they´re 28mm or 30mm), would be better if they were multipart though, but hell, it´s rackham´s first plastic batch, so they might try that latter. Just hope the rules are good too, would be a grand day, an alternative to 40k with a possible fan following

billr
05-02-2006, 02:21
Whether they're painted or not I will still end up with a few. They're nice.

Briareos
06-02-2006, 08:31
AT-43 is scheduled for release for christmas 2006. Knowing Rackham, take this with a grain of salt.
The models shown during the Open are prototypes. Rackham is still looking for a manufacturer, as they aren't going to handle the production in-house.

Models may either be plastic or metal - things are a bit murky on that at the moment. My take on it is that the infantry will be metal and the mechs plastics, but don't take my word for it.

Release schedule will mimick Warmachine and Urban War, with the release of "battle groups", and subsequent release of "add-on" units, thus enabling players to slowly build an army.

Briareos
11-06-2006, 09:38
An art piece has been published on the Rackham web-site :
http://static.flickr.com/48/164862092_628c9c46ae_m.jpg (http://www.rackham.fr/imagenes/PUBLICITE-AT43.jpg)

Although I must say I am much more impressed by the names of the artists mentioned at the center bottom then by the picture itself ; Smith, Kopinski, Walker, and England amongst other.

Basically, the artists which produced some of GW's best imagery to date.

worldshatterer
11-06-2006, 10:12
wow. i'm loving the look of the aliens in the artwork .

Rabid Bunny 666
11-06-2006, 14:02
Http 404 not found!

Noes!

edit: Aliens look awesome, Adrian smith and Wayne england, this is gonna rock!

glowing in the dark
11-06-2006, 16:03
Wow, pic looks cool.Think I'm gonna give it a go!

Sephiroth
11-06-2006, 17:28
Okay, now that artwork is awesome. :eek: :)

Christine
12-06-2006, 06:32
So has anyone else heard that they'll be sold painted but with the option of buying unpainted figs?

We still haven't seen examples of the paintjobs for the sale figures I think...

neXus6
12-06-2006, 06:41
Oh dear, I am rather liking that look of some of the little pictures I saw on their website.

If they do sell prepainted and unpainted ones it would be a move for the hobby, certainly for one of GWs competators. I mean GW aims at kids, but what is the easiest way to aim at kids and real hobbists, the choice of prepainted or not. Not to mention the fact that some wargamers are just into the gaming side of things, it would make the game more easily accessable to. Very interesting I must say.

my_name_is_tudor
12-06-2006, 08:52
I thought that looked like a Kopinski painting.. nice

Sephiroth
12-06-2006, 20:55
So has anyone else heard that they'll be sold painted but with the option of buying unpainted figs?

We still haven't seen examples of the paintjobs for the sale figures I think...

GamingReport.com had:


Rackham is showing off models for their new Plastic miniatures game here at the show; "AT43". The figs are prepainted and plastic making it a very different game for them compared to their other lines. The game looks to be a skirmish "Mech." style game with

small tactical units and infantry. The game looks to be approximately. 28mm. Rackham staff are not giving a lot of information on the game just yet. The game is due out for Christmas.

Seems that it's only prepainted so far.

Few pics from the site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/IMG_5480.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/IMG_5477.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/IMG_5479.jpg

Not seen a single prepainted figure yet though... :eyebrows:

Grinner
15-06-2006, 07:21
Hi, all! First post! Hopefully I can shed new detail on AT43. I think Elusive was talking with me, actually. Hi Elusive!

With talking with my ACD rep, who speaks regularly with Rackham folks as they are the primary distributing partner all others, like Alliance, receive Rackham products from in the US, and reading interviews and leaks posted on the game and company in the Rackham and R orientated forums for Confrontation/AT43 news the last few years, here's what can be gleaned so far. If you search around a bit you'll find most of this info, if not all.

AT43 has been in development for a few years, starting with two preview pics shown like 4 years back.

The game is prepainted and "options" of unpainted versions are likely going to be available. Apparently the former was unsure for a bit as R were having problems finding a company to meet their desired standard.

The paint jobs are supposed to rival the benchmarks established by Mcfarlane toys and Hasbro (whether the latter's SW/GI Joe action figures or Wizard's minis are being reffered to wasn't stated). And while I've heard this several times it remains to be seen. One thing for sure is I seriously doubt the pics in the corner of the last teaser posted here are the actual paint jobs with NMM! I'm sure they'll be good, and can't wait to see if they are as good or better than Mcfarlane, but being the store painter I can't believe they'd be that good, as I'd be out of a job!

Apparently the staff assigned to AT43 has been in place for some time to develop the standard they are shooting for, and will not interupt or lessen the number of Confrontation products per month and vice versa (unlike our beloved GW games).

The figures are not collectable, and the game is for 14-16 year olds at youngest (Confrontation being 14+). The engine for shooting is something we've never seen before according to their forum rep.

R said the figs would all be plastic as the paint jobs combined with metal minis would become too expensive, but lately rumors of the smaller stuff being in metal have surfaced, but not from them that I can find.

Beta game should be playable at Origins.

The releases start in January in English, with Rackham releases hitting the first Friday of the month baring difficulties normally, since their arrangement with ACD has been ironed out. So New Years? In Jan thru Feb the White Stars, Red Block and Therians (the aliens?) all get a starter game box and 0-2 blisters as of the release schedule. No prices yet.

There's 4 armies of humans and an alien by the end.

If you search for info on the game you may find pics for old concepts aka Dust. The game is not Dust, and R went a different way with it, even though Paolo Paente designed for both settings. Originally it was going to be an alternate timeline game (AT-43=AT-1943) which became Dust and then R changed directions (AT-43=43 years After Threat?, when the aliens attacked first?) and Paolo released limited action figure-like Dust stuff on his own. Paolo still works with R on all their games.

The original white manga-like robot pic first shown in their stock report when they went public is not confirmed to have made the cut in the final line, only the others.

Newest rumor on the R forum is that the mechs not only have switchable weapons, but removable pilots inside. If so, hopefully not sitting minis runnin' about!

That's about all I can remember.
Hope that helps!

Spacemunkie
16-06-2006, 19:58
Good work that man :)

Christine
29-06-2006, 17:15
Hey folks click on the link for the latest prototype news on AT43.

Looking interesting!

http://en-forum.confrontation.fr/viewtopic.php?t=22816&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Incidentally the forum appears to be pretty bitchy - you have been warned!

New Cult King
05-07-2006, 05:24
I'm a bit disappointed they didn't stay with the animecha style. I love that stuff, and being able to play with units like that in a 28mm setting would be wicked.

fleshtuxedo
14-07-2006, 00:33
I am pretty impressed with the all-round look and feel, but does it lack a bit of "character"? I know I am I jumping the gun because we havn't seen the art and rules yet, but I dont feel compelled to collect it.

nanite
29-07-2006, 04:23
Any news on this one? Are we waiting for Gen-Con?

erion
29-07-2006, 11:20
Actually, it's a Christmas time-frame release, though I'm sure Gen-Con will give rise to more previews.

Christine
31-07-2006, 21:57
AT-43 release details can be found on Tabletop Gaming News (http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=2667)

Brimstone
31-07-2006, 22:35
Edit - Following discussion I've revised Christines post and will now open this thread again.

The Warseer Inquisition

tabletopnews
01-08-2006, 00:47
Actually, it's a Christmas time-frame release, though I'm sure Gen-Con will give rise to more previews.

Previews and I am lead to beleive that the demos that were held at Origins will also be at Gen Con as well so if you are there you should be able to get your hands on some figs and play the game

Christine
11-08-2006, 12:59
Once again Tabletop Gaming News has come through with the goods on AT43. Check out http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com for the latest info including the link to the latest pictures of new models. Pretty sweet stuff!

Rabid Bunny 666
11-08-2006, 13:13
Not too keen on the aliens, the Karl Kopinski drawing made them look awesome, but they look a bit rubbish now, still, Plastic=conversion :D

Sephiroth
11-08-2006, 18:05
Once again Tabletop Gaming News has come through with the goods on AT43. Check out http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com for the latest info including the link to the latest pictures of new models. Pretty sweet stuff!

Excellent find Christine. If those are what the pre-painted miniatures look like, I'm definately getting into this. :D

NakedFisherman
11-08-2006, 18:48
Those are studio-painted miniatures according to people at Origins. The pre-painted ones didn't look like that.

Christine
11-08-2006, 19:19
That's a shame I really liked the paint jobs on those and I have to say the wait to find out what the figures are actually going to look like is proving to be a killer!

tabletopnews
11-08-2006, 23:38
We've got a link on the front page today to a new set of photos of what appear to be the minis in the Operation Damocles starter set

Our story:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=2820

Forum link:
http://en-forum.confrontation.fr/viewtopic.php?p=308893#308893

Sephiroth
12-08-2006, 00:45
Our story:
http://www.tabletopgamingnews.com/?p=2820

Christine already posted the link a bit back up.

So, those minis are what appear in the Operation Damocles starter set
(as in, prepainted to that standard), or is that studio painted versions of what will be sold in the starter set?

tabletopnews
12-08-2006, 01:01
So, those minis are what appear in the Operation Damocles starter set
(as in, prepainted to that standard), or is that studio painted versions of what will be sold in the starter set?

Haven't been able to find any information to determine what the status of those miniatures are.

The Judge
13-08-2006, 20:45
They look pretty, regardless.

jazzdude78
16-08-2006, 03:57
Sadly those in the link are the studio paintjobs and are not the actual ones
Ill find the link to the actual jobs later

http://en-forum.confrontation.fr/viewtopic.php?t=23918

Sephiroth
19-08-2006, 19:29
http://en-forum.confrontation.fr/viewtopic.php?t=23918

Thank you kind sir. For those whom can't be bothered to click the links:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/at43.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/at43squad2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Zekk/at43squadfront.jpg

Well... their not quite the same quality as the previous versions we've seen, but certainly gaming-standard. I'm still interested in trying this game - provided how much the models will cost (it can't be any worse than GW, right? :p)

Rabid Bunny 666
19-08-2006, 19:33
Methlyated Spirits ahoy!

jazzdude78
19-08-2006, 22:15
I believe it was said somewhere the starter box was gonna be like 100 US but I believe there was mention of terrain or somesuch

Killshot
21-08-2006, 01:16
I believe it was said somewhere the starter box was gonna be like 100 US but I believe there was mention of terrain or somesuch

Order from the Warstore and save 20%! :)

Anyways, does anyone know how this game is going to play? I haven't played anything by Rackham, but these minis are fantastic.

How about plans for other races?

Keravin
21-08-2006, 13:48
I've heard there's definitely terrain. Two races to start with and then expanding out next year.

The Judge
23-08-2006, 14:09
Not liking the painted examples... not even the sculpting. Pity.

FearFrost
24-08-2006, 03:19
Did the rackham interns decide to make a game? Those models are AWFUL compared to Rackham's normally high standards.

The stuff in the link looks good, but damn, those pics you posted of the (prepainted?) stuff look like junk.

jazzdude78
24-08-2006, 18:37
I think they really ruined the impact for themselves by showing us the studio paintjobs first

cybertron2000uk
27-08-2006, 02:14
umm.. I want the first pictured one? is it from the same game? doesnt look like it! the mechs for AT 43 arnt what I go for...
the troops arms look err...off...