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05-02-2006, 13:49
The Golden Griffon painting compo was announced the other day. For those of you that don't know, its a national painting compo for Norway, with regional finals in independent stores, and the final of all the winners in Oslo GW.

Anyway, I've decided to put a model into the 40K class. This is what I fell for. It's an old conversion I did several years ago of a Daemonhunter inquisitor, but I never did any work on it. It just sat on the desk, looking at me with bambi eyes, asking "won't you paint me soon?".

Well, now Inquisitor, your time has come!

The body is an Enginseer, with some extra dangly bits and the Coteaz hammer inserted onto the modified weapon shaft. There are also some new scrolls and seals on the figure. There is an old SW scout back pack there (so old, it's lead!), and some more piping going into his head.

So far, work has been to undercoat it, and to start the armour. I'm aiming for the armour to be a dark red, which would look sinister, combining it with dark metal for the hydaulics of the armour, and black robes. The robes would then be detailed with personal trimmings or imagery.

The is the state of the armour so far. I've done just a bit of it, so that I could get some feed back about the colours and appearance.


05-02-2006, 13:50
thats one sexy red, i'd tone down the gloss thought if you are going to enter it in a GD equivilent.

05-02-2006, 13:53
yeah it's looking very good so far

village idiot
05-02-2006, 14:56
It does look really really good, if you keep up that standard you should do well, or at least I hope you do.:) What colours did you use for that red? it looks so good.

05-02-2006, 15:07
I've done a scorched brown, dark flesh, followed by a thin red on top. Then I've red inked the whole plate. Simple, quick and effective.

05-02-2006, 15:49
Goes off and buys some red ink and scorched brown ;) Lovely so far are you going to dull the shiney look down? - I quite like it. Won't it get a bit confused as a engiseer with all the red armour though? or are you having a few =I= signs on?

05-02-2006, 16:32
Superb, utterly superb (well, the bit that's done :p), aside from the gloss, I love the red, cool to the extreme, the pose reminds me of the ogre champion, iwht great weapon.

Will you be removing the gloss?


05-02-2006, 16:53
Testor's Dull cote! :p

The red is very nice so far, so simple, but so ace! Love it so far :)

Can't wait to see more of the progress ;)

05-02-2006, 17:19
I think ive found the colour scheme for my terminator army :p

05-02-2006, 17:24
I like the red, I don't mind shiny armour since its said that everyone polishes their armour anyway, and if you make sure its only the armour that is that shiny then you should be fine, as long as the cloth looks cloth like and not shiny etc. Doin fine son! Keep on with the good work, What colour are you going to paint the weapon? Gold like Coteazs or just silver or something?

05-02-2006, 19:04
I'm not sure about the weapon. I fugred I'd be doing it amongst the last things anyway, since it's the easiest thing to hang to when you are painting, so it will just get wrecked anyway. We'll see what comes of the rest of the figure.

About the red shine. I quite like it. I think that the shine also fits in with the idea of a puritanical inquisitor. He has a servitor who maintains his equipment, and is proud to be a man of power and of what he stands up for. So he make sure the servitor uses extra dollops of Turtle Wax on his power armour.

What I'll probably do is to keep the armour shiney, whilst making a dull cloak. For the contrast, you see...

bert n ernie
06-02-2006, 02:02
Well, along with everyone else I do like the red.
However since you've said you're doing black robes, I thought I'd post and say... "maybe no?"
The guy will be great looking all dark and all I presume, and I know every body and their dog has a model with white/brown robes, but with that red they may suit better. You don't have to go for those particular colours, but maybe black will make the red and metal difficult to distinguish how good it is.

06-02-2006, 07:18
Well, I'll do my armour first, and then pick out the metal bits.

Once I've done that, then it's a case of looking at the robes.

bert n ernie
06-02-2006, 13:23
That sounds like a great idea.
I hope I didn't sound too harsh,
good luck with it!

06-02-2006, 15:37
Great look! I picked up the Direct Services TechPriest... I am going to have to borrow your colour scheme for when I get around to paint him!

As for the weapon. I have seen someone paint it as a glowing hammer. It looked amazing. Since the describe it as "On its head is a burning sigil of the Inquisition, and it strikes with the force of a thunderbolt", maybe a blue glowing head with bright golden =][= symbol?

That is what I can suggest for you. Keep up the good work!

06-02-2006, 19:24
I got me a bottle of liquid gold leaf!

So now the question remains, should the robes have gold detailing, or should the hammer be pure gold? It's probably too much with both...

06-02-2006, 20:23
gold detailing, a gold hammer would look a bit OTT, and the detailing would make it "pop"

in my opinion anyway....

06-02-2006, 20:49
Work updates.

I finished the red of the armour. Now it's detailing remains. I was pretty bored of it, so I thought I'd to the face. No problems, and I was pretty pleased with the tone of the skin, and the highlighting of the face. So then I did the eyes. Or more precicesly, I did one of the eyes. The other one, I ******** up.

And by this time, my hand was hurting pretty bad, so I packed it in for the day, and took the photos. I'll touch up the face tomorrow.

Gah! I see that the flash/exposure is different on the photos! Sorry.

*goes to get a cup of tea*

06-02-2006, 20:51
I absolutely love the gloss of that red. I think gloss is overlooked and discredited far too much. The shine on the red armour plates though will look really nice set amongst (I hope) the more drab, matte colours of the robes. It's an Inquisitor, they're meant to have a certain sparkliness amongst all their dark deeds.

06-02-2006, 20:59
nice model. I love your red. I have to ask though were do you sign up for the comp. I might enter my self, just need some info.

06-02-2006, 21:01
Where are you based? I'll find out where you can enter.

06-02-2006, 23:31
drammen near oslo

07-02-2006, 05:27
Ok, I am so painting my Sons of Mars Space Marines like this. When you say a thin red over the top, what do you mean by this? A tutorial would be awesome!!!!

07-02-2006, 08:50
I'll have to show you on another figure then. I'll see if I can get a step by step photo'ed up.

If you are in Drammen, then the best place for you to go would be to GW Oslo. Otherwise, there is Outland in Oslo. But I'd go to GW Oslo, and tell Gustav that Chris sent you!

07-02-2006, 09:00
I love the red, like others said too. The conversion is also really great: subtle and effective, nothing over the top. I am eagerly following this thread to see the progress of this thingie.

07-02-2006, 23:08
Today's progress.

I've been working on the robes today. I've highlighted them with a touch of Bleached Bone into the black. So far, I'm pretty happy with the results. The photos make them much appear much brighter than they are. I've also started on the pouches and holster.
I then decided to start to tax myself more, and add some detailing to the cloak. So I made up a quick draft of what I wanted, on the ubiquitous, poorly suited to the task, yellow post-it note.
The end result, after scaling it down was as follows. Unfortunately, the cloak does have some tatters in it that crash with the pattern. I'll be attacking those tomorrow.

07-02-2006, 23:11
Now, people asked for a step-by-step for the red. Here it is, with a simple carnifex head as an example.

1: undercoat black
2: paint scorched brown, and leave a black line in between the plates.
3: paint a thin dark flesh, a bit further away from the black line than you did with the scorched brown.
4: paint another layer of dark flesh even further up the scale.

07-02-2006, 23:13
That looks really sweet Pert, gives the black a nice bright part, which looks good and regal bit like an Inquisitor should be. Be nice to see that completed.

07-02-2006, 23:14
5: now add a small touch of red paint and strengthen the paint just along the edges of the plate. The left side of the head has had this done, not the right side.
6: glaze the section with red ink. Again, the left side has been glazed, the right has not, in order to show the difference.
I've repeated the glazing on the inquisitor, to get an even more red effect.

Simple. Now you can try it to! ;)

08-02-2006, 00:04
** Shakes Pertinax's Hand **

Thank you very much, Sir. I have always wanted to paint like this, with that colour... now I can, all by myself. Thank you!

08-02-2006, 00:07
Pert, you have a way with techniques, I'll give you that. Great method for a clean red :)

08-02-2006, 00:09
Yeh, if I had any models that used that much red I would use your way to do it, I will keep this in mind.

08-02-2006, 02:39
Thanks alot Pert, excellent.

08-02-2006, 04:29
*stabs Pert in the eye*

Couldnt you have posted this two weeks ago? Dammit, I spent ages doing layering on damn Warmachines for (almost) exactly that kind of red, only with about 6 more layers.

Good looking stuff. I think I'll try that out. :)

08-02-2006, 12:52
Good stuff, and nice simple red tutorial. I'm loving the pattern though, I didn't realise you were quite so talented :).


village idiot
08-02-2006, 13:49
nice tutorial, really quite simple.

as for the model so far...bloody amazing! The detail is incredible, and the model should be striking enough to impress the judges.

However, I did notice on the picture with the cloak/cape without the pattern that you seem to have a paintbrush hair on your model, make sure it is removed.;)

Also, are you going to do anything special for the base? because I would find it awful if you just put plain sand on the base, after having put so much effort on the actual model itself.

08-02-2006, 16:20
Nice work, lovin' the cloak :)

Although I still feel the red shouldn't be shiny, because, if left shiny, the judges will see that some kind of inking process was involved, and will immediatly downgrade the score of the whole mini. If you, however, dull the shininess, it will be harder to spot wherever you blended it using wet-blending or glazed it like you did.

08-02-2006, 16:56
Thanks all.

Tallent? Tallent doesn't enter into it! I'm a natural! ;)

I'll have some more updates and pictures tonight. I've been rumbling it up with a selection of techniques...

08-02-2006, 17:08
Talent is only spelt with one "l" :p.

Seriously great, you've surprised me (even though I've seen your sons :p)


08-02-2006, 17:10
In due time, I'll get some other photos of my bestest, and surprise you again. ;)

*takes back the "L"*

08-02-2006, 22:02
As promised, here's today's work. I've been working below the wasteline today.

The scroll packs on the rear of the figure came out wonderfully, I thought. I'll have to work a bit more in the =I= at the front to make it as good. I'll also be darkening the recesses of the cloak towards the wasteline.

I think I'll also be adding the pattern from the loin cloth around the shoulder cloth. I don't know if I should add it over the top of the hood.

About the shine: The figure really isn't that shiney. It's just the lighting of the photos.

08-02-2006, 22:25
That's a beautiful red you have there. Simply amazing.

08-02-2006, 22:56
yeah looking good mate, just one crit though. the purity seal could be a bit smoother and more distinct i think because of the shading it tends to blend in with the red slightly. but overall very nice


08-02-2006, 22:59
See your point. The brightness of the pictures brings it out though.

I'll attack that tomorrow.

Anvils Hammer
08-02-2006, 23:23
the pattern trim on the black robes is fantastic, im really impressed overall.
the red armour really is too shiny, i think it would look better had you done exactly the same blending with normal reds, but thats just me, i have a "shine" phobia which has led to me almost entirly giving up on inks.
its probably the photo so no worrys.

nice job so far.

09-02-2006, 00:50
I would say to do the purity seals green, just so they show up better.

Your armour is buff.

Metal Fingered Villain
09-02-2006, 04:05
I think green purity seals is a bad idea, I'd just try and make them brighter without such a difference between light and dark. The red looks amazing tho, I'd give it a couple coats of dull coat and matte varnish when done though as glossy stuff doesnt usually do to well.

09-02-2006, 06:15
Looking really good so far, my only crit are the pouches on his back...they are a shade of pinkish/red that is too close to armor color, in my opinion. Nicely done otherwise!

09-02-2006, 06:36
I stayed clear of the green seals, because it woudl break with the red pallete that I'm using.

Again, I have to say: The figure is not as shiney as it looks in the photo.

09-02-2006, 11:55
Hmm.... Maybe you could consider painting black vertical lines across the mouthpiece to look... more evil? A little like Drazhar. (that is, if that's what you are looking for)

Otherwise, very awesome mini! I'll be following this right to the end!

09-02-2006, 12:13
Looking very nice, so much so that a guy on the other side of my office had to pop over for a look at it.

Then he saw the virtual bubblewrap link in your sig and stood there playing with it for a couple of minutes. Still, it's quite a head turning model!

09-02-2006, 22:09
I haven't done too much with Mr. Inquisitor today.

But I did find and paint up a FW servo skull. So I'll mount that on him as well, either from his base, or from the side of the figure so that it hovers over his shoulder.

++ RazielLycas ++
10-02-2006, 21:17
If you could give us a tutorial of your amazing red
(if on this tread there is it already sorry ^__^" I haven't read it all)

10-02-2006, 21:39
It is already present and accounted for..

10-02-2006, 21:55
++ Raziel: It's about on page 2 or 3. Two posts.

OK, here's the servo skull. It's a FW one, so there's lots of fidly bits on it. it will be mounted so that it will be looking over the Inquisitor's left shoulder, about a head higher than the top of the hammer. Should be effective, yet a simple addition.


It struck me that the whole colour scheme for my Inquisitor, is pretty John Blanche. So adding the Servo skull just seemed correct...

The boyz
11-02-2006, 10:39
That is a truly great looking miniature Pertinax. I love his red armour it looks great, cheers for the tutorial , I am going to try that technique out for the red I think. The Servo skull is looking good , the bone colour on the skull looks great.

Good luck.:)

11-02-2006, 12:58
Cheers Pert,

Just starting out a Deathwing army (my own chapter though, The Bloodpact) and the red will help a lot.

12-02-2006, 19:38
My finger is getting worse. A large scale infection has set in for full at the root of the ring finger's nail of my right hand. It is hampering painting...

12-02-2006, 22:14
Painting through the pain...

Tonight's efforts are as such. I've done the incense burner on his belt. I've also done the pattern around the shoulder cloth. Plus a few small touch up bits.

And already looking at the pictures that are being uploaded, I've seen that I have got a few things to do tomorrow.

Firstly, there is a small pipe from his chest rebreather that I wanted in a sandy yellow. It came out too yellow, and has to be toned down.

Secondly, have I gotten the "highlight" on the pattern the wrong way around on the left and right sides? Or does it work? Help! Do I have to re-do it?

12-02-2006, 23:14
Looks good to me, but then I'm no competition judge, or even much of an artist, so I can't really comment on the highlight. If it's annoying you though, it'd probably be better to fix it. I do like what you've done with this though, definitely an inquisitor, but very different to the stock models- good work!

village idiot
13-02-2006, 12:10
so far I would say that it looks great, you might be right about the pattern but I had to go back and look carefully to notice. as for the yellow rebreather, I would have gone for a dark green myself (complimentary colour) as I think the yellow does look a bit bright (the model still looks good though :) ).

13-02-2006, 19:51
I don't want to introduce any non-red/yellow colours into it. It gives a more brooding theme to it. I think I'll be changing the piping to grey.

13-02-2006, 20:10
I wouldnt sweat the pattern highlighting, it looks more like natural light is hitting it as opposed to just outlining the letters on one consistent side would.

I think its preference, and nothing I would criticize. The main question is "are you happy with it?"


Good luck, it looks like it coming out pretty nice.


Iron-Father S.N
25-02-2006, 22:22
Great work! Sorry if this has been asked earlier, but what are you doing for the base?

26-02-2006, 12:15
Secondly, have I gotten the "highlight" on the pattern the wrong way around on the left and right sides? Or does it work? Help! Do I have to re-do it?

I wouldn't worry, it looks good. The judges will assume the light is coming in from its left so the highlights are actually in the correct places if you see what I mean. But wait, sorry above is wrong because then that side of the head would be in shadow. As sad as this sounds you should probably re-do that side to make it look better. Aaaaaaaaargh! I keep correcting myself, it is fine as it is, I was assuming the light was as it was at winter (the sun lower in the sky) but I suppose it can be higher so as long as you are happy leave it. Great work BTW, hopefully you will start this again now your finger is better.

26-02-2006, 15:21
This is an absolutely awe-inspiring picture. Good Work!

Could you try taking only one picture of it outside, without flash? Even if the quality sucks, it would help us see the effect of that red without all the shinyness. Just a thought.

26-02-2006, 19:11
I'll see what I can do.

Concerning the base: The competion is pretty restricted about the base. So I was thinking of making either some deck plating or some tilling, and have it stick out a little over the edge of the base, just to give it the impression of something larger to stand on.

Right now, I'm leaning towards the marble base. Probably a black/green

12-04-2006, 19:56
After a long hiatus, I'm back on the Inquisitor. In the mean time, I've painted 4 LOTR armies and done the GT in the UK with them (watch in WD for two of those).

Anyway, I sat down with Inquisitor Badass yesterday, and finished him up.

At least I think so...

I went for a simple base, because the figure is quite busy. I also have attached the servo skull to the side of the back pack.


12-04-2006, 20:04
Now, I won't mention the gloss, because it's horrible, but other than that, superb, the best model I've ever seen come out of you Pert, excellent freehand and colours, and wonderful blending.

A mini to be proud of :).


12-04-2006, 20:08
Well done mate, good luck with it in Golden Griffin, I guess that the overly glossy effect is still the flash on your cam, btw the servo skull is nice (where did you hide the pole then?)

12-04-2006, 20:24
Now, I won't mention the gloss, because it's horrible
Don't mention it then. Oh you did. Bummer.

Once again, I will state for the sake of TG. The figure is not glossy. It is purely a result of the photography.

I have little chance to take photos in sunlight, since there is effectively non here.

12-04-2006, 21:49
That's real (x2) nice! :)

The base complements the model very well I think. Good decision.

Warboss Garfang
13-04-2006, 00:12
Wow man, that's sweet. Great job on him.

25-05-2006, 20:18
For conclusion, this figure won Silver in the Single 40K category at this year's Golden Griffon national painting compo.

I'm proud.

25-05-2006, 20:25

25-05-2006, 20:44
Awesome dude, really well earned. What managed to beat you?

25-05-2006, 20:44
Nice one Mr. Polar bear!

25-05-2006, 20:59
Awesome dude, really well earned. What managed to beat you?
Not sure yet, but it was (if I heard correctly - I was cylcing and talking on my head-set to the organizer when I found out) an entry by a person who did very well in the Chapter Master compo a while ago. The only Norwegian finalist, iirc too.
I'll get a pic of it sooner or later, and I'll let you be the judge of it.

Thanks all.

25-05-2006, 21:59
well done,

a simple paint scheme very well excecuted

congrats, n the 2nd, shame it was not 1st,

look forward to seeing what managed to beat you

26-05-2006, 02:01
Sweet, and grand result for a deserving model.

You need to know that, although I feel it's shinyness is a turn off, it's still a superbly painted model, that I admire (and now envy) you for greatly.

Also, in case you took my jest to heart, I appreciate a lot of it is the photo, but let me have my fun, and remember the TG rule; "Are you offended by what I wrote? Please consider that I maybe left the ;) off the end of the piece of text."



26-05-2006, 21:00
Nice work on the inquisitor, and congrats on getting 2rd place with it Pert, but I still think the shiny effect look horrible on it- just makes the model look a bit worse than it could without the glossy armour. (edit) I see were you're coming from on the 'It's the photograph's fault' point, but it wouldn't be like that if the armour was totally dull, would it?

Maybe make the crevies and creases of the armour have another coat of dullcoat, to stop the shinyness in them (Will make it look like the dark areas are actually in shadow- not some shiny darker paint)?

26-05-2006, 22:27
Sure, there is a touch of shine to the figure. But nothing like what the photo portrays.

I like it that way. It makes the armour look more cared for. He is an inquisitor, after all. He probably has a servitor with a Turtle Wax attachment.

Thank you for your advice. I chose not to follow it. Primarily due to my actually being able to see the figure in real life.

26-05-2006, 23:57
Firstly, i don't really see why everyone has an obsession with dullcote it isn't even sold over here in Norway!!
Secondly, if you want to criticise just come straight out with it...TG your not just the only one, ive seen many people do it and i'm not saying this with intention to flame, it just annoys me to see people do it.

I personally have seen Pert's inquisitor and yes its slightly shiny, but thats because its varnished, i mean if you painted a piece like that wouldn't you want to protect the paint from being chipped by stupid 12 yr olds picking it up, saying "Ooo thats ni...Bang (sound of mini connecting at high speed with floor)"
I also agree camera flash does make mini's look shinier than they actually are.
Rant Over


27-05-2006, 07:08
After a long hiatus, I'm back on the Inquisitor. In the mean time, I've painted 4 LOTR armies and done the GT in the UK with them (watch in WD for two of those).

Anyway, I sat down with Inquisitor Badass yesterday, and finished him up.

At least I think so...

I went for a simple base, because the figure is quite busy. I also have attached the servo skull to the side of the back pack.


Hey there, nice job on the mini. It's nicely done. I think your red's are nice and smooth, which is something to be said considering the nature of red paint. I am guessing from looking at the model you use GW paint?

I also like your golds. they are very welld one, very realistic.

A couple of things bother me. First the servo skull. I honestly think it is taking away from the model. the bend in the wire, and the fact that it is attached to teh backpack, makes it hard for my eyes to see it as flying. It's like those eye puzzle things. You know what it is supposed to be, but your eyes see it differently. Plus I think it is way too high, and the eye has to go too far up to meet the servo.

Also, the mini is shiny, you can't tell me it isn't. there's nothing wrong with a shiny mini, but the way the pips of light appear on the model, especially in places on normal lighting they wouldn't show up, like cracks in the armor, lead me to believe it's shiny. But hey that's not part of the painting critique itself.

Other than that, you've done a very good job. I am positive this looks much better in person, since the glare is killing the depth in color on things like the cape, and you are losing definition in the armor plates. Congrats on your placement.

27-05-2006, 19:15
Dtoymachine: No need to quote the whole pictures and all, as it makes my scroll button hurt ;)

Anyways I like the model alot. I have also seen it in this "real life" people talk about, and sure its a tiny bit glossy as Railgunner said. Tho if you ever get the chance to ever go to Bergen notice how we have sun 1 day a year, which makes photgraphing in sunlight kinda hard :p

Good work, and congratz on the 2 place!

27-05-2006, 19:35
wow, thats one neat model. hope you win that golden demon! are you entering any other categories on top of that?

27-05-2006, 19:41
Well, gee. The figure is for the Golden Griffon compo. That's the national painting compo in Norway.

I don't know if I will put it in Golden Daemon. We'll just have to see.

And anyway, it came second (2nd) in the G.Griffon.

27-05-2006, 19:47
wow, that was a well deserved second. whatever came first must have been like..... i dunno.. eavy bloody metal team!

EDIT: please please please put in into golden demon!!!!

Velkyn Kyil
27-05-2006, 21:40
Like alot of people before me, I have to comment that the shinyness on the Inquisitor is a product of the picture. TBH, the picture does not give him justice at all!

28-05-2006, 19:49
Anyway you could try to remove the shineyness? It really spoils what is (definetly) a very nicely painted mini in person. And I agree with Dctoymachine about the servo skull detracting from the model. Congrats on placing 2nd!

EDIT: Looks like I've unknowingly copied (sort of) what PD said "congrats on getting 2rd place with it Pert" - I didn't mean to! Though i do have a way of unknowingly copying things I have heard others say days/ weeks before.

28-05-2006, 19:53
this might seem a tad ramdom but how about giving it a coat of dullcoate and then on the armour "highlight" it with gloss varnish to give a polished look to the armour whilst leaving a nice depth in the shadows. ive never tried this myself just thought it might work.

28-05-2006, 20:25
Yes that would work, it works rather well too.

28-05-2006, 21:57
Dullcoate doesn't exist over in Norway.

I have to find alternatives, should I want to dull things down.

29-05-2006, 13:33
Can you not get it shipped in?

Or is it because it's aeresol spray. Can that kind of thing even be shipped?

29-05-2006, 15:46
It's got a hazardous container (aerosol), so it is hard to get into the country.

Besides, even if I could get it, I really wouldn't want to use it on the inquisitor. He's fine as he is.

Turtle Wax servitor, remember?

06-08-2006, 17:15
Bit of resurection here, but some people wanted to see what came first.

Well, here are the official results.

07-08-2006, 02:48
I can see why the termie got first place, but not over your model.



07-08-2006, 04:24
I disagree if I were you I'd be happy to be beaten by something that good - I really like the face on that wolf guard which is where yours falls short slightly.

Your models fantastic, and I can imagine the judging was pretty close.

07-08-2006, 07:37
I'm happy to see that the terminator won. It's good.

On the other hand, it doesn't comply with the specified base size for the category. So I'm a bit miffed by that...

(Oh, and note that with a proper photo, the Inquisitor isn't so shiney as he might have appeared to be :p )

07-08-2006, 10:47
Yeh but... thats swings and round abouts. If he was on a small base he'd look rather foolish and probably fall over.

Plus, you couldnt really put it in the large mini catagory..

07-08-2006, 11:05
Well done Pert.

However, I'm disappointed at the distinct lack of norseness of your name...


Black DH templ.
07-08-2006, 20:07
Dullcoate doesn't exist over in Norway.

I have to find alternatives, should I want to dull things down.

Of course it does.

Just look for matt klarlakk in Wallendahl.
Or alternatively the smaller and more exspensive version on Norbyes fargehandel.

08-08-2006, 07:09
(I'll try to explain with out drawing a picture)

Dullcoat is the product name. A matt varnish is a product. Dullcoat, as per se, does not exist in Norway.

Matt varnish does. Hence, the alternatives. Which, for the record, I have. I'm very happy with the matt I found.

Soj: Well, I'll let you into a little secret. I'm British

The name, on the other hand, is actually derived from an original Norse name. We can trace it back to about the year 1000 AD, and infact back to Norway. I like to think of myself as a type of payback for the raids...

08-08-2006, 11:41
I like to think of myself as a type of payback for the raids...

Do you mean your on a long term raid?:p


08-08-2006, 22:25
Something like that...

Black DH templ.
09-08-2006, 02:59
Right. In that case I know for sure you can get it in sweden. And it's only an 8 hour drive!:angel:

09-08-2006, 06:57
You go get some, I'll use my alternative product.