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Brandir
21-05-2005, 19:25
Over on the Black Industries forum Simon Butler (Head of BI) announced:

To be clear, we're committed to WFRP for the LONG TERM, indeed we're committed to RPG's in the long term (our second will be announced shortly, and no, it's probably not the one people would expect).


What does everyone expect to be the next BI RPG?

I would hope LOTR, but doubt it will be.

t-tauri
21-05-2005, 19:35
I would hope 40k, but fear it's LotR.

Brandir
21-05-2005, 19:44
Why fear LOTR? One should embrace the power of the Ring!

Baggers
21-05-2005, 22:05
Decipher have still retained the rights to the Lord of the Rings RPG if I remember, and 40k is not in the works. Yes there are a few fan made ones knocking around but they are not official. Becasue you can use Inquisitor without the models if you really wanted to.

t-tauri
21-05-2005, 23:14
I had read somewhere that the current LotR licence holders had ended/lost/given up and that someone not unlike Black Industries were about to get it. Then again you can't believe all you read on internet forums.

Brandir
22-05-2005, 00:25
Decipher still hold the LOTR RPG rights. However, the game has been on a hiatus since August 2003 after Decipher sacked their RPG studio and 're-evaluated' their RPGs (LOTR & Star Trek).

Early this year Decipher said they would re-launch the LOTR RPG in April. Then June. We'll see! They have about 6 supplements completed, but no more under development. Maybe they will have a 'fire sale' to raise some cash before canning the line completely.

However, when BI was announced they said that WFRP would be released and they had secured the rights to a major film/literary licence. Most people assume this is LOTR.

Drabant
22-05-2005, 00:35
But what is it that he (Simon) believes that people would expect? They said "maybe" about a 40k RPG earlier, and that would be something truly innovative among RPGs.

I hope it's not LOTR atleast. It's been done some many times, and personally, the world of Tolkien is to "sacred" to go around making up own stories in. I prefer to play in worlds made for gaming.

Baggers
22-05-2005, 15:25
Well Drabant if there is a new RPG it looks like it won't be based in one of the core universe Games Workshop does.

Brandir
22-05-2005, 17:01
From what Mr Butler and co have said, and taking into account the original press release announcing the creation of BI, I really think that the next BI RPG will be based on a licence (literary/film/both).

Harry Potter has not been licenced as an RPG yet.

Lostanddamned
22-05-2005, 18:57
Harry Potter has not been licenced as an RPG yet.

maybe because it would, to coin a phrase, suck.

Baggers
22-05-2005, 22:42
Actually thinking about the Potter liscence as an RPG it would be quite intresting as there is a lot of depth and detail for various characters and career but there would be litte in the way of adventures as it is a very simple good vs evil world.

Anyway somehow Games Workshop would not take a Harry Potter liscence

Antaeus
22-05-2005, 22:50
Heh, as much as anything else, what the hell would one do in a Harry Potter RPG? (I love the books, but don't like the films..) And also, roleplaying children seems a bit odd to me (unless one would be RPing adult wizards..) Anyway, I hope not and expect not.

Let's see...lot of superhero movies have come out in the last few years. X-Men or something along similar lines maybe? Or a war film?

Brandir
22-05-2005, 23:20
Ahhh, an X-Men based RPG sounds interesting. I don't think that has been done yet.

Tastyfish
23-05-2005, 01:59
We expect 40K, but I think its going to be Judge Dredd (they already have the leicence and are doing books on it). Would probably put money on it

twisted_mentat
23-05-2005, 02:27
I saw BI and i though it ment "BLACK ISLE"....it got me way more excited than the actual body of the post :(

Brandir
23-05-2005, 08:45
It won't be Judge Dread based. Mongoose Publishing already have that licence. Their JD RPG is d20 based and well supported by Mongoose.

So, Mr Tastyfish, please try not to waste your money betting on a non-starter!

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Jedi152
23-05-2005, 09:21
40k, but when he says something no one would expect, he probably means that it won't be about any major armies from 40k.

It'll probably be about traders or something. Something to delve into a new area of 40k never really seen before.

NetGuru
23-05-2005, 10:45
40k, but when he says something no one would expect, he probably means that it won't be about any major armies from 40k.

It'll probably be about traders or something. Something to delve into a new area of 40k never really seen before.

Or Necromunda.......we wouldn't expect that

olbivion
23-05-2005, 11:16
if he' telling the truth (that it's not what we expect) then it won't be 40k in any way shape or form....
it's already been said there won't be a harry potter rpg cose the author doesn't want other people making up stuff in the universe.

i still hope it's 40k...

Tastyfish
24-05-2005, 01:15
It won't be Judge Dread based. Mongoose Publishing already have that licence. Their JD RPG is d20 based and well supported by Mongoose.

So, Mr Tastyfish, please try not to waste your money betting on a non-starter!

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Bwah ha ha..just means I'll get that much better odds!

Um, oh well. Made sense at the time...though they say its one we don't expect, my money's now on a Spanish Inquisition based one.

Drabant
24-05-2005, 08:54
my money's now on a Spanish Inquisition based one.

That would be pretty cool, as long as you're playing the Inquisition. Monty Python Inquisition or real one?

olean
24-05-2005, 11:47
I just can't see any good reason for _not_ doing a 40k rpg. There has been so much talk and interest on the subject for so many years, it is a well developed and well known setting and it is original in it's premise. If I was a GW decision-maker :skull: , I would say (cue Ben Stiller as Texas oil baron-voice) " Do it! Come on - do it! Do it!"

Tastyfish
24-05-2005, 18:02
They said they are going to, but a 40K RPG is going to take a lot of time and is kind of filled by Inquisitor at the moment. Another setting with less different things needed might be easier to do now whilst 40K RPG is in development. 40K doesn't really have the luxery of WFB in having an obvious location to start in, so its either set locations randomly made up for the RPG, or you have the Cadian Sourcebook, Eastern Fringe sourcebook, Tau empire sourcebook, Ork empires sourcbook...and on and on.

Sir_Turalyon
24-05-2005, 19:31
... all these militaristic location have little roleplaying potential - war in 40k is far more serious then in fantasy.

Necromuda sourcebook, on the other hand, would allow almost everything...

Tastyfish
24-05-2005, 19:58
Hmm - I was thinking more of locations were a party of PCs could do something and travel around a bit rather than battlezones. Imperial/Seperatist agents along the eastern fringe and in the Tau empire seems an obvious choice as it gives the DM a lot of scope for things as the Imperium's power is lax here. Pretty much essential if the characters are going to be highly placed Imperial agents/Inquistors and need to be prevented from just ending a quest at the start with exterminatus or requesting all records to be handed over the Administratum for decades of Audit.

WFRP is not going to work as a straight transition to 40K, as the 'bunch of nobodys' aren't going to be able to travel freely. Necromunda RPG could be possible but certainly is a very different thing that a 40K one, more Judge Dredd in all but name.

Brandir
27-05-2005, 19:04
Black Industries' new RPG is:

based on DC Comics!

http://www.blackindustries.com/announcements.htm

So, what do you think?

It is not a subject that appeals to me, so I won't be buying it.

Will you?

Keravin
27-05-2005, 19:23
Ahhh, an X-Men based RPG sounds interesting. I don't think that has been done yet.

Marvel put out a RPG last year or so. Rubbish adventures, but surprisingly good as reference material.

Keravin
27-05-2005, 19:26
The new DC has got to overcome some of the fundamental problems with the last two.

I love most Green Ronin stuff, but I'm not going to rush and buy it. Might see if they want writers for the source material though.

rkunisch
27-05-2005, 19:58
Black Industries' new RPG is:

based on DC Comics!

http://www.blackindustries.com/announcements.htm

So, what do you think?

It is not a subject that appeals to me, so I won't be buying it.

Will you?
I do not think so. I am not a great fan of the comics and movies and it would be a little difficult to make an interesting RPG system out of the material. Nah, I will stick to fantasy RPGs. Maybe, I will give a 40K one a chance, but I doubt it.

Have fun,

Rolf.

NetGuru
28-05-2005, 08:13
Im not surprised though, Green Ronin have already done a super hero RPG, so it a natural thing for them to do. (assuming Green Ronin are doing it)

Personally i won't be buying the DC comics RPG as it doesn't really appeal to me.

Brother Loki
29-05-2005, 12:49
I've never really been a fan of superhero RPGs. It's just not a genre that appeals to me, although I'm starting to get into superhero comics more than I used to.

warlordgrubnatz
29-05-2005, 20:37
it would be cool to see bi bring out old classics like space hulk, talisman etc

Brimstone
29-05-2005, 21:13
it would be cool to see bi bring out old classics like space hulk, talisman etc

I doubt that will ever happen, the card pieces to the games are expensive to produce which is one of the main reasons Specialist Games have never reissued them.