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anarchistica
22-05-2005, 13:45
For those of you who don't know it, mouse gestures are a Mozilla Firefox extention. You can get the plugin here (http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/installation.html). It allows you to perform certain commands that would normally require you to use browser buttons, clicking with the mouse or typing with the keyboard simply by holding a mouse button down (usually the right button) and making a certain movement. If i hold my right mouse button down, move to left and let go, my browser goes back one page. This is fairly simple and quite useful. You can add and change gestures easily, but the basic ones are very handy already. For instance, i can hold the right button, move right-up-left across all the links on a board page and let go to crash Portent (it opens all those forums/threads in tabs). :D

Just wondering if anyone else used this crazy function. And to bring Firefox extentions to your attention, of course, i don't see banners and have no problems with IE only pages either for instance. ;)

Bmaxwell
22-05-2005, 16:13
hmm seems nice but my computers a dell and dial up so yea complex things like that are out

Cheesejoff
22-05-2005, 17:01
This thing owns! It's like playing black and white!

anarchistica
24-05-2005, 23:03
I've only been using it for a couple of days and i can't live without it anymore. Just the forward/backward thing alone makes it worth it.

C. Langana
25-05-2005, 00:12
Thankyou anarchrista, these things are so much fun! Never would have heard of them without you, cheers.

Tyra_Nid
25-05-2005, 02:50
Meh, the side buttons on my mouse perform the same function with less effort :p

Fusion
25-05-2005, 11:31
alt+ direction keys do the same job, it's the way I've always done it. I'll never change, anar, you'll never make me!

I just want to go home to the farm and use my keyboard for ever and ever and ever.


btw- how does it feel not to have that pesky "2" next to your name anymore?

Wiseman
25-05-2005, 13:34
buttons on my mouse do they same thing far more easily

Sgt John Keel
25-05-2005, 14:11
Any way to connect it to an instant dose of Portent?

/Adrian

anarchistica
25-05-2005, 22:27
alt+ direction keys do the same job, it's the way I've always done it. I'll never change, anar, you'll never make me!

I just want to go home to the farm and use my keyboard for ever and ever and ever.
Yes but that means you have to move your hand away from the mouse. Just being able to hold the right-button and move 2 cm to the left to go back a page is a huge help. I doubt your mouses can open multiple links with a single click or download with 1 click, etc. :p


btw- how does it feel not to have that pesky "2" next to your name anymore?
I went without the 2 for about 10 months (09-11-2001 23-09-2002) and longer with it and i can't say it's really different. :p

Hercco
25-05-2005, 23:21
Yeah most gesture are great. I started using them when they first appeared in the Opera browser.

There's only one downside to them... You start trying to use them in other programs than Opera/Firefox. Sometimes I do the L shape two or three times on a windows explorer to close it until I realize...

Wiseman
26-05-2005, 09:20
ive been using them for five minutes and realised, my life is now complete:D

Wraith
26-05-2005, 10:04
I'm tempted to use them -- can you link gestures to bookmarks? Like make a 'P' sign to go to Portent?

C. Langana
26-05-2005, 12:53
I dont think you can, but I really hoe it becomes available. Might use P for different thing though.

anarchistica
26-05-2005, 13:49
There's only one downside to them... You start trying to use them in other programs than Opera/Firefox. Sometimes I do the L shape two or three times on a windows explorer to close it until I realize...
I hate being on non-Firefox pc's. Where's my gestures? Where's my adblock? My Linky, DTA, PDF DL, Next Image and Tabbed Browsing?


I'm tepted to use them -- can you link gestures to bookmarks? Like make a 'P' sign to go to Portent?
There's an option to make gestures do custom things, so if you know Javascript you can likely do that. Would be pretty cool. :)

There are more non-standard gestures here (http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/gesture-exchange-temp.html) by the way.

Kargos Bloodspit
26-05-2005, 13:51
I'm tepted to use them -- can you link gestures to bookmarks? Like make a 'P' sign to go to Portent?

Yeah, I'll try see if I can do the javascript code up for that for you. So you can copy paste it etc. I'll edit the post with the code.

Wraith
26-05-2005, 14:59
Hmm... sounds interesting, I haven't a clue with Java though.



Yeah, I'll try see if I can do the javascript code up for that for you. So you can copy paste it etc. I'll edit the post with the code.

Nice on Kargos

Kargos Bloodspit
26-05-2005, 15:33
Right okay, done the best I could. it opens in a new browser window. Theres just one problem right now, but I'll sort that out when I figure out whats going wrong (the status bar dosnt appear... :rolleyes::wtf: ).

Anyway: Instructions:

Startup Firefox,
go to Tools>Extensions>
Select Mouse Gestures from the list>
click on options >
Click on the 'General' Tab, then 'Edit Mappings" button>
click on the 'New' button>
set Gesture Type to "Normal" (pull down menu)>
click on 'Recognise' button>
do a the mouse gesture you want for the Portent gesture (with the right click etc.)>
change Function type: to custom (pull down menu)>
Enter in the name of the gesture in the Text box underneath 'Mapping Name:'>
Enter in the following code into the text box underneath 'Custom JavaScript code:'



function popup(returnWin)
{
var url = "http://www.portent.net/forums/index.php?";
var width = screen.width;
var name = "Portent";
var height = screen.height;
var win = window.open(url, name, 'toolbar = 1, scrollbars = 1, location = 1, statusbar = 1, menubar = 1, resizable = 1, width=' + width + ', height=' + height);
}
popup("");


click ok button, and keep on clicking the ok buttons until you get back to the Extensions window, then click on the close button.

Just so you know, i've got mine set as a squarish P, if you want it to be the same instead of clicking on the recognise button enter in "URDL" into the text box to the left of it. See attachment for my P, complete with arrows.

palmerantony
26-05-2005, 15:50
Oh that's how you use them!

I knew of them months ago but I could never get them working and obviously I hadn't read more than the title of the instructions...

anarchistica
26-05-2005, 23:43
I love it Kargos. Imagine the face of the person sitting next to you when you make a circle with your mouse and Portent pops up. :D

Oh, and what (other) extentions do you people use? I have:

Mouse Gestures (http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures/) - see above

Download Them All (http://downthemall.mozdev.org/) - Downloads all links or images on a site (it gives you a list to check those you want).

Next Image (http://www.mrchucho.net/projects.php#nextimage) - Another useful tool for image galleries. It simply adds 1 to the number of the current image, so you go to the next.

Linky (http://gemal.dk/mozilla/linky.html?ver=2.6.0) - Great tool. Opens all links/images/selected links/selected text links in tabs or windows, or shows/open all images/image links in one tab.

Adblock (http://adblock.mozdev.org/) - Great adblocker that often gives you the choice of blocking something (not everything is an add).

PDF Download (http://www.rabotat.org/firefox.html) - Let's you choose whether you want to open the PDF, download it or cancel opening it.

IE View (http://ieview.mozdev.org/) - For those few websites that don't work in Firefox, it will open the link/site in IE.

Tab Browser Preferences (http://216.55.161.203/theonekea/tabprefs/) - Gives you more control over tabbed browsing. For instances, i changed it so if i click a link that would normally open in a new window it now opens it in a new tab.

Kargos Bloodspit
27-05-2005, 12:59
PDF Download

Web Developer

Edit CSS

Bandwidth Tester

Chat Zilla

and last but not least Mouse Gestures.

Going to be working on another Portent Mouse Gesture. May take me a bit of time to get the DHTML sorted. (its going to be a mouse gesture you make and a little window appears in that tab that can be dragged about the screen (and closed) with links to Portent/User Cp and each of the main forums.)

Wraith
27-05-2005, 16:48
I've got a new pc and it comes with one of these fancy wireless mouse and keyboard sets. The mouse comes with one of these a 'tilt wheel', and the keyboard a lot of additional buttons which suggest they allow you to bring up specific programs e.g. messenger. A lot of these function don't work but they do look useful...

I've downloaded IntelliType Pro 5.2, & IntelliPoint 5.2 is it worth installing them or not -- I hate to think I'm loading the PC with more programs which require to be run in the background, taking up system resources...

lredman
28-05-2005, 20:28
Could someone tell what exactly Firefox is? It seems to get mentioned quite a lot on here and I have no idea what your talking about.

Kargos Bloodspit
28-05-2005, 21:03
Firefox- Mozilla Firefox.
An open source Browser completely free, its a lot better than Internet Explorer because its not so much of a security risk.

http://www.mozilla.org/

anarchistica
29-05-2005, 02:10
Also, when combined with SpywareBlaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) you will never ever again have spyware. Not even if you regularly visit the dark underbelly of the net, though a anti-virus guard is needed there as well. ;)

Kelroth
29-05-2005, 21:31
Ok, five minutes and I'm in love. This is awesome. :D

Wiseman
30-05-2005, 06:02
thanks for that script kargos its brilliant

Kargos Bloodspit
02-06-2005, 23:39
I've just realised something and I feel really really stupid. You dont need my script :D

Go into bookmarks, to your portent one, right click on it, then properties. On that popup window, if you have mouse gestures installed, it will have a Mouse Gestures button. Click on it, and you can define the mouse gesture for that bookmark...

anarchistica
03-06-2005, 02:29
How did we manage not to see that? Thanks Kargos.

Wraith
03-06-2005, 09:37
I've just realised something and I feel really really stupid. You dont need my script

Go into bookmarks, to your portent one, right click on it, then properties. On that popup window, if you have mouse gestures installed, it will have a Mouse Gestures button. Click on it, and you can define the mouse gesture for that bookmark...

Oh right, so you can assign custom gestures to bookmarks?

Kargos Bloodspit
03-06-2005, 11:29
Oh right, so you can assign custom gestures to bookmarks?

Essentially, yes :)

To be honest, its quite hard to find out unless you actually go into the properties of the bookmark. They should include it with the documentation.

Kelroth
03-06-2005, 13:17
Hmm.. I have mouse gestures installed and am perfectly able to use them, but I can't seem to do that, Kargos. The button is there, but it's grayed-out and I can't click it.

Any thoughts?

Kargos Bloodspit
03-06-2005, 13:35
Hmm.. I have mouse gestures installed and am perfectly able to use them, but I can't seem to do that, Kargos. The button is there, but it's grayed-out and I can't click it.

Any thoughts?

Any chance you could give me a screenshot of it. I'd just like to see what you mean, and also what the bookmark screen looks like for you. Also, go to the:
Help>About Mozilla Firefox
and post what it says on the bottom line.

Kelroth
03-06-2005, 13:39
Sure thing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Kelroth/bookmark.jpg

Bottom line would be:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4

Kargos Bloodspit
03-06-2005, 13:43
Ah, I know now. In order to define a Mouse Gesture for a bookmark, you must have defined a keyword. Enter in a keyword for the bookmark. I put mine as portent (keywords mean you just type that word into the browser and return and it'll take you to the site.). Once you've typed a keyword the Mouse Gesture button will un-grey and will become clickable.

Kelroth
03-06-2005, 14:12
Ahhh! Thank you, Kargos!

Wraith
03-06-2005, 16:07
Ok, I've installed it -- it's pretty cool I have to admit.

It's a little difficult for it to recognise complicated gestures like a 'P' drawn the way I would write it BUT I'm sure I'll get used to it.

anarchistica
03-06-2005, 16:12
Ok, I've installed it -- it's pretty cool I have to admit.

It's a little difficult for it to recognise complicated gestures like a 'P' drawn the way I would write it BUT I'm sure I'll get used to it.
When i made this thread i'd only been using it for 5 minutes and already i cannot live without it. Next, previous and reload are just so much more userfriendly when you can just perform those actions with a quick move of your mouse.

On another note, it doesn't work in Explorer (the normal one, not IE), which took me 5 attempt to remember. :D

Wraith
03-06-2005, 16:28
Well I've found now it's better to make the gesture 'boxy and angled' rather than with curves.

What I mean is rather than a 'P' with a rounded top part I make the gesture so the top part of the 'P' is square in shape.

I don't use IE short of hotmail and updating XP so no problem there.

The only issue now is learning all the stadard gestures -- I'm glad it shows at the bottom left of the screen what the gesture will do.

The next tab and previous tab gestures are really good. :D

Whats the gesture for close tab?

anarchistica
03-06-2005, 18:54
Whats the gesture for close tab?
Down right.

Donut
05-06-2005, 08:30
This program is great, though it has led me to waste the better part of an evening playing around with this piece of niftiness.