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DeadlySquirrel
03-04-2010, 17:09
So i was wondering. What if GW decided to add a completely new race to the game? What would you choose?

Fluff wise: Mine would be a race from another galaxy. Huge lumbering armoured suits brimmed with weapnry and high tech. They completely conquered their galaxy and have decided to go to the next.

TT wise: HQ some sort of commander in the biggest armoured suit and thats about all i can think of for HQ.

Elites: Better suits obviously.

Troops: 5 man squads of suits

Fast: Jump suits

Heavy: Some sort of floating artillery tank

So thats mY idea for a completely new race, whats yours?

Cheers

Xarian
03-04-2010, 17:12
So i was wondering. What if GW decided to add a completely new race to the game? What would you choose?

Fluff wise: Mine would be a race from another galaxy. Huge lumbering armoured suits brimmed with weapnry and high tech. They completely conquered their galaxy and have decided to go to the next.

TT wise: HQ some sort of commander in the biggest armoured suit and thats about all i can think of for HQ.

Elites: Better suits obviously.

Troops: 5 man squads of suits

Fast: Jump suits

Heavy: Some sort of floating artillery tank

So thats mY idea for a completely new race, whats yours?

Cheers

You realize that you just described Tau (except for the "other galaxy" thing), right?

Arbedark
03-04-2010, 17:14
You realize that you just described Tau (except for the "other galaxy" thing), right?

Or Space Marines...

Mannimarco
03-04-2010, 17:14
taking all bets, somwhere in the first page sombody will say "those guys" Im not saying ithe name as I dont want to reset the clock but you all know who I mean

I think we're fairly well covered when it comes to the fantasy IN SPAAAAAACE archtypes, what could we add that isnt already covered by an existing race

SandQueen
03-04-2010, 17:18
The Turians or Asari from Mass Effect.

Know what would be cool? Codex: Lesser races. Toss some Hrud in there with some kroot and all the other lesser races that alone arent enough to merit an army book.

Thud
03-04-2010, 17:46
I'd like to see an army based on those Vampires from Twilight. That would be super cool. :cool:

dragonet111
03-04-2010, 18:30
Page 116/117 of the core rule book, the big map of the galaxy. I wonder what can be the Barghesi of the Grendl Stars, can the new race but I fear that they are just alien devoted to Khorne.
There is also the Hadex thing that can be a portal to others dimensions and theirs denizens.
I like the Tau, they are shiny, new full of hope and Hi-tech. So for me the new race should be the total opposite of the Tau (Who said this is the Imperium...)

Chucklemoney
03-04-2010, 18:39
The Prawn's from District 9. Am actually working on this at the moment...

azimaith
03-04-2010, 18:46
You realize that you just described Tau (except for the "other galaxy" thing), right?

He just described Tauanids.

Bunnahabhain
03-04-2010, 19:59
Has a full official, up to date codex, published by GW online, for free.....Oops, we didn't spot that combination/ loophole.... Publish version 1.1. fixed

So they can concentrate on selling models to make money.

Fallenity
03-04-2010, 20:00
He just described Tauanids.

My thoughts exactly.

But when you think about it, it's very hard to come up with a new race that doesn't share qualities with any of the existing races. For example:

On what would their tech be based on? Everything's been covered on the scale of bio-tech to hi-tech. Of course you can start nit-picking and state that "My army would completely utilize plasma technology!". True, no army bases all of its tech on plasma, but it does already exist in the universe.

Like was stated, every fantasy archtype exists already. Those already by itself are very encompassing.

What about virtues? If we think that every army by its play style and fluff would enforce one virtue, like discipline (Ultramarines), resilience (Dark Angels, Nurgle), courage (every Imperium army in the game) and co-operation (Eldar), can we come up with a virtue not yet embodied in the 40k-verse? Even humor is there! (Orks)

Of course some armies don't embody traditional virtues per se, instead maybe symbolizing an emotion, like anger (Khorne) or single-mindedness (Tyranids), so maybe an emotion? I wouldn't want to see a depressed army..

Should 40k start loaning ideas from other sci-fi? Will we start seeing Mass Effect races, like someone suggested? Or maybe some Zookies, which are bigger and hairier versions of Kroots?

I wouldn't want to be the one at GW tasked with creating a new race..

But personally, I'd like an army that uses psychics as its main weapon, most effective at mid-range (6" - 24") and isn't a monster in CC. While the Eldar used to be this, no more. But this wouldn't work with the current rules..

Godzooky
03-04-2010, 20:17
HQ some sort of commander in the biggest armoured suit and thats about all i can think of for HQ.

Has somebody recently taken delivery of Supreme Commander 2? :)

vladsimpaler
03-04-2010, 20:41
Squats.

There. Someone had to do it. :)

Either that or a proper Mercenary Force, ala Dogs of War. Would probably be a Rogue Trader force.

PaddyF
03-04-2010, 20:56
What is there left?

Super Human killing machines? Check
Ordinary Gimmers? Check
Gribbley Brain Eating Aliens? Check
Super Advanced Race that is dying? Check
Super Kawaii Mecha race with supa friends? Check
PIRATES IN SPAAAACCCEEEE? Check
Dead Race coming back to life in some form? Check
Totally Evil for no good reason race? Check and check

What we need is a race that is totally chill. Codex: Chill Dudes. They will just smoke weed every day while telling off the other races for being "the man" and "totally being heavy".

Lord Malorne
03-04-2010, 21:02
Codex Wastoids.

PaddyF
03-04-2010, 21:04
Army Special Rule:

And they shall know no soap: All attacks in CC against Wastoids are at -1 to hit due to the terrible smell since the dirty hippies have not had a bath since the Emperor squated down on the golden throne.

Refyougee
03-04-2010, 22:10
How about some kind of race comprised of extremely small but sentient nanorobots that are invisible to the naked eye. Would make for a pretty easy army to model ;)

Chem-Dog
03-04-2010, 22:41
Ignoring the various spurs of current factions that could still be covered (Exodites, Harlequins, Adeptus Mechanicus, Non Power-armoured/Daemonic Chaos ect ect) I would like to see an entirely AI race.
It's a rich seam of Sience fiction goodness that is as yet un tapped by 40K.
Basic Premise: A Race of Artificial Lifeforms created during the dim distant history of humanity returned from 1000's of years in deep space having "evolved".
Basic examples would be human in basic appearance but more powerful sections of the race are melded with (or downloaded into) different constructs to make them more powerful or particularly adept at a specific role.
They don't have to be good, they don't have to be bad, virtually every existing faction has a good enough reason to want to smoosh them which in turn gives them a reason to want to smoosh every exisiting faction.

Hrud would be nice to see fleshed out into a full race, an army of swarm bases perhaps.

Kroot are still fairly nebulous as a race, easily moulded into a full faction within the 40K story.

Finally, a non Imperial Human race could be fun.

Hoodwink
03-04-2010, 22:44
I'd like to see a race that can combine several smaller models to form one larger model or split from a larger model to smaller models depending on the situation you require.

For example, you could take a 10 man squad and combine to form a single larger MC sized model, replacing the squad with the single model. Just taking standard of 4's for MEq stats, going from 4T and 1W per smaller model to 4T and 10W for one uber model.

Obviously this wouldn't be good going against things like lascannons and krak missiles, but add certain USRs when they combine to make it worth it (MC status, rending, FNP, fearless, etc). Then if you go against said weapons, you could split into a larger group of smaller models again.

Just a thought :P

Dead Man Walking
03-04-2010, 22:49
I'd like to see an army based on those Vampires from Twilight. That would be super cool. :cool:

Vampires from twillight? You want models based on teenage boys showing off thier abs and looking moody to impress teenage girls? :wtf:

If it runs around in broad day light and you never see a drop of blood then its not a vampire or a vampire movie. Its just Pah-Theh-Tic! :skull:

TimLeeson
03-04-2010, 22:50
I already did mine, their in my signiture, they are called Enslavers.

allthough lately, iv really taken to the Cryptos and Slaugth....and I love the Umbra.

Actually, i find the backround races to be far cooler than 99% of the ones "in-game".

Juggernaut246
03-04-2010, 22:56
Lost and the Damned

Lord Malorne
04-04-2010, 01:52
Actually, i find the backround races to be far cooler than 99% of the ones "in-game".

:eyebrows: There are realisticly around ten at best...


Army Special Rule:

And they shall know no soap: All attacks in CC against Wastoids are at -1 to hit due to the terrible smell since the dirty hippies have not had a bath since the Emperor squated down on the golden throne.

We are from the chaos wastes, we have done all the rules, Guilder only, want to have an entry and see other members, then guild up.

PS. We have soap, unlike the rest ;).

TimLeeson
04-04-2010, 01:57
:eyebrows: There are realisticly around ten at best...

in game ? yes, because theres dozens and dozens in the backround :D

Lord Malorne
04-04-2010, 01:58
99% does not work youngling.

TimLeeson
04-04-2010, 02:05
99% does not work youngling.

It was just a phrase, and please dont be patronising.

Olja
04-04-2010, 02:17
I still want to see the return of Squats (or Demiurg). :mad:

Mannimarco
04-04-2010, 02:26
squats were already mentioned on the first page, exactly as mannimarco had prophesised, dang I should have put money on it

Olja
04-04-2010, 02:33
squats were already mentioned on the first page, exactly as mannimarco had prophesised, dang I should have put money on it


I know, I read the first page. I just wanted to say it again. I played squats in the days of RT. I had the plastic guys, a bunch of warmachines, and half a dozen trikes. I traded them thinking " I'll get some new stuff when 2nd ed. comes out." We all know what happened next. :cries:

I WANT MY SQUATS BACK! :mad:

Ork X
04-04-2010, 02:43
A race of all ghosts and phantoms would be cool.. or ethearals ...
full psychic race would be interesting to play. Maybe with elemental special characters, golems and such.

Meriwether
04-04-2010, 02:46
I'd like to see a race that can combine several smaller models to form one larger model or split from a larger model to smaller models depending on the situation you require.

Codex: Voltron :wtf:

EldritchRaider
04-04-2010, 03:03
My idea of a cool new race is like Space marines- all fanatical about purity and that- with big suits of armour, but their armies are entirely made up of lesser psykers and librarian sort of people.
Troops: Simple warp manipulating controlled psykers with limited destructive abilities and defensive stuff/ standard 60.cal bolt carbines.
Elite: Powerful individual psykers with warp-bound teleportation, attacking adnd defensive abilities/ standard 60.cal bolt carbines and anti tank launcher thingy's.
Fast: Warp bound teleportation abilities and special defensive/stealthy abilities/ standard and advanced target finding and longe range high calibre weapons.
Heavy: Big track tanks like Razorbacks but with more curves in the armour, one man driven land speeders only the size of a jetbike and some massive walker (TT wise about as tall as a wraithlord and a bit taller) with lots of flags and scrolls hanging off it- looking lithe like a wraithlord but with a human looking head and a built in sword and bolt cannons/ also has some sort of defensive psychic ability.
HQ- Some malevolent psyker in massive power armour and a big staff- powerful attack and defense psyker abilities as well as a choice of pistol- also a retinue os lesser psykers with a variety of weapons.

Tokugawa100
04-04-2010, 04:06
The Turians or Asari from Mass Effect.

Know what would be cool? Codex: Lesser races. Toss some Hrud in there with some kroot and all the other lesser races that alone arent enough to merit an army book.

I had an idea which I think would be quite cool.

Theres alot of races out there which either getting kicked around by the Imperium, getting nagged by the Tau or getting cleansed by Necrons etc etc.

Surely many would have similar views on the matter and form a coalition of independent empires. Those who hate the Imperium but dont want to bow down to the Tau's Greater Good or their stinking Ethereals.

Alone they would be defencelss, mere minnows in a sea of sharks, but together they would group and form something greater. Their unity would bond them and their opression would unite them.
Several races could band together to form a single large Empire merging their personal armies and technologies with a deadly array of specialist sciences and weapons.

They would be specialists with a multicultural appearance, each race with differing special abilities and unique traits. They would bring bio weapons, artificial intelligence, psychic weapons etc depending on their race and culture.

All for the great cause of bringing down the oppressive race of man and ridding the universe of its cancerous intolerance.

Otterpot
04-04-2010, 05:00
Interesting idea that might sound stupid:

The race is extremely small, billions of the creatures living on man sized ships that zing around the battlefield. To them, humanity is a race of cosmic sized giants that will destroy them. There's different ships with different loadouts, and they could send hoards of fighters at the enemy. Pretty much like fighting sentient wasp nests.

Brother Edwin
04-04-2010, 05:33
I would want big cyclops. Like 40k ogres. And minotaurs.

i want alien hunters.

Or lost and damed. And include beastmen.


Imo Squats would not sell.

Brother Edwin
04-04-2010, 05:35
sorry double post.

Firaxin
04-04-2010, 06:06
No race singularly represents Warhammer 40,000 more so than the Adeptus Mechanicus, and it makes me sob every time I remember that they are not a playable race.

But a 100% completely new race that hasn't ever been mentioned at all? Hmm, that's a toughy, and since we're all imagining such a race from scratch, you're probably not going to reach a consensus very well. And looking at Fantasy, we've already got all those races covered, so no inspiration there.

Otterpot's sentient wasp nests idea would be pretty cool, I guess. Reminds me of Halo's Hunters, or the humans in Robotech against the gigantic Zentradi. It would be difficult to perceive how they were a galactic threat (so they'd probably fit better in a Codex: Minor Xenos/Mercenaries, but I suppose you could say they're all over the place by being small enough to stow away on Imperial Ships (ala the Hrud).

Trains_Get_Robbed
04-04-2010, 06:17
ALIENS VS. . . . PREDADTORS!!! We need Predatorish race that would be similar to Demon Hunters only the hunt the numberless horads of Nids that come. They are either animalistic with super advanced technology with few models and even fewer super expensice machines that are well made (claoking field maybe?) or a kind of Mercanary outfit that hails from the Nid'S Galaxy come to fight for and protect the highest bidder, causing many more fights to who gets to hire the Predators.

GrimZAG
04-04-2010, 07:42
Codex Dragonball Z!

All I need is one dude.

Condottiere
04-04-2010, 07:53
Codex: Fishmen

They need to find a home(world).

Gazak Blacktoof
04-04-2010, 08:10
I'd like to see a codex that represents the dreggs and disposesed- the 40K background is rife with mutants, the underclass of hives and cults- none of that really makes it into the game.

Solar_Eclipse
04-04-2010, 08:11
The Aryans!!

(Not really, sorry. I was just considering how this Thread title could be construed by someone who doesnt play 40k.)

sigur
04-04-2010, 08:20
....of atomic supermen which will conquer the wooorld!


40k doesn't need another race, the concept of a "perfect race" (or army) is bogus in gameplay terms and fluffwise, every army is perfect according to current fluff so why care?




(Not really, sorry. I was just considering how this Thread title could be construed by someone who doesnt play 40k but still is a total knucklehead.)

Fixed that for you. :)

yabbadabba
04-04-2010, 08:41
Codex: Fishmen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFo4jbqe_2Y) Theme tune added ;)


I think there is room for a second Human Empire outside of the Astronomicon.
I like the idea of a true psychic race, and I would like to see an army based on proper use of Sonic weaponry, and not just Slaanesh's emo teen garage band.

The thing for me is alot of what people have mentioned is already out there - Squats, AdMEch etc, there are dozen's of fandecii to choose from. Just because GW aren't doing anything with them doesn't make them any less valid. They need to be databsed somewhere ......

nedius
04-04-2010, 08:51
It is hard to come up with an entirely original race - which is why GW haven't done so.

One place to start might be fantasy races with no 40K equivalent - such as Ogres and lizardmen and (do I dare say it...) dwarves... Not really sure which the tau count as.

Another might be to offer a pdf or WD 'blank' codex, which could be used to represent a generic alien race, for which people could convert what they liked - slaan, hrud, etc.

The previous Codex Tyranids, minus synapse, would be a good base. A unit like gaunts could be offered a range of stat modifiers (bio-morphs) or weapons, which could singificantly alter their play style - thus represent different races. If gaunts had all be lumped under a single unit, with options for wings, leaping, cc weapons etc, you could have created a HUGE variety of creatures, cabable of representing anything from Flash Gordon's Hawkmen (wings and flesh borers), to the Xenomorph (+WS, +I, +S, Leaping, ST).

That would be what I'd like to see. The idea of 'Codex: aliens/lesser races' or what ever.

Firmlog
04-04-2010, 09:01
wow based on the first post I got the perfect race for you Karmans from at-43. it is exactly what you described.

Troops: big monkeys in suits. They would have a 3+ save and specialized in lots of anti infantry fire power, sniper rifles, machine guns, flame throwers and rocket launchers.

Fast: Monkeys in the same suits with jump packs. some are close range and have power fists the others are mobile fire power.

They also have small speeders (hovering vehicles) with diverse weapon fits.

Heavy: Heavy armor monkeys toting superior fire power from large caliber artilers to rapid firing laser cannons. They also sport powerfists to deal with anything that gets too close. Although they could also be elites.

Vehicles heavy: skimmers with multiple weapons fits from rapid firing laser cannons to flamethrowers that BBQ opponents. They can even to tankshock maneuvers using their engines to assault ground forces.

Leaders: wise experienced troopers that can lend valuable tactical support or rush into combat and beat their opponents to pulp.

Setesh
04-04-2010, 09:41
pff adeptus mechanicus or something like that - not a 'new' race, just one that hasnt been given a codex yet.

Panzerkanzler
04-04-2010, 09:55
Troops: big monkeys in suits. They would have a 3+ save...

Hold it right there, we already have marines thank you! :evilgrin:
Other than that I don't want new races, GW can't even maintain a good quality on the races they have currently and are lagging behind severely on their codex publication times. They should move on to modern times, publish rules on the net and profit as people don't have to wait for a decade for a new/updated codex. GW's silly notion of never, at least in a timely fashion, update their codexes, even if there are really dumb and obvious faults, is very frustrating.

Lionsprey
04-04-2010, 11:26
Vampires from twillight? You want models based on teenage boys showing off thier abs and looking moody to impress teenage girls? :wtf:

If it runs around in broad day light and you never see a drop of blood then its not a vampire or a vampire movie. Its just Pah-Theh-Tic! :skull:
Dont forget ash cant be a real vampire movie without at least one vampire getting staked.

My perfect race would simply be the tau without the need for kroot

Ironhand
04-04-2010, 12:32
40K doesn't need a "new" race. There are lots of existing (or former) races/factions (Chaos Legions, Lost and the Damned, and Harlequins for instance) that deserve a Codex, and the fluff has mention of several more (L'Huraxi, Barghesi, and Hrud to name just 3).

And of course there are existing races who have been waiting a VERY long time for a Codex update - in one case more than a decade.

Meriwether
04-04-2010, 13:07
The perfect race would be an army of clones of Bruce Campbell's character Ash from Army of Darkness.

Mannimarco
04-04-2010, 13:15
^ this is so great, im inspired to write up a character for my imperial guard.......

personally I wanna say Predators, whole army of little mini heroes and (if anybody remembers alien vs predator: extiction) quite a lot of scope for an army from brawlers to the military caste

Troah
04-04-2010, 13:24
My perfect race would be an energy based race...if you've ever watched Titan A.E. you'd understand.

Lord Malorne
04-04-2010, 13:27
I have, but I don't.

Urban Shaman Commando
04-04-2010, 14:11
The Thyrrus (http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Thyrrus). They sound insanely entertaining.

TheOverlord
04-04-2010, 14:32
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs32/f/2008/190/c/f/The_Grimdarkian_by_IronShrineMaiden.jpg
The GrimDarkians.
So Grimdark, the ***** darkmatter.

Condottiere
04-04-2010, 14:49
Have the Imperium discovered Krypton yet?

Setesh
04-04-2010, 14:52
Have the Imperium discovered Krypton yet?

yes, its called ultramar now.. [at least in the fluff ho ho]

Radium
04-04-2010, 14:56
Pychic ninja space elfs. Oh wait, we already have the Eldar :P.

Condottiere
04-04-2010, 15:16
Pointed ears, check; furry tail, missing.

Otterpot
04-04-2010, 15:30
Grimdarkians huh? Looking at size, like ten per army?

Sceleris82
04-04-2010, 17:45
Some kind of a Etheral Race

Imagine a civilisation being hit by uhm,,, warpstorm of some kind, everyone dies but their warpprensence somehow gets connected to the "real world".

So now you basicly have a race of ghosts, using only phsycic powers as their shooting attack, phsycic powers to to control other ehteral spirits, or warpish creatures.

Their heavy support could be the voidwhale!=D

Firaxin
04-04-2010, 17:51
...sounds like daemons by another name...

spetswalshe
04-04-2010, 18:01
I'm a huge fan of not trying to shoehorn any more fantasy into 40k. Just because they have lizardmen doesn't mean we need obsidian spaceships guided by psychic frogs. We've almost eliminated the hobbits from our game (and from all fluff that attempts to be serious) and I give it one more codex before we've got rid of the damn things altogether. The last thing we need is giant noble spaceeagles or something.

I think the AI-Gone-Wrong idea is the only one that couldn't really be applied to any existing 40k force - but they've kind of ruined it by giving the Necrons the appearance of an AI-Gone-Wrong army whilst also ruining all that is cool about it - you know, software and hiveminds and all that geth stuff.

Firaxin
04-04-2010, 18:07
Oh yeah, forgot to respond to nedius.

One place to start might be fantasy races with no 40K equivalent
As I said, they all have a 40k equivalent already.


Ogres
Ogryn.


lizardmen
Tyranids.


dwarves
We've had these twice, actually. Once, the squats, were thankfully eaten. Now we have dwarves again making a frightening comeback by way of the Demiurg.

Lanparth
04-04-2010, 18:28
I'd love to see the return of the Old Ones. Long live the Slann! :P

Condottiere
04-04-2010, 18:51
I thought they were uplifted to the next phase of evolution?

Lord Malorne
04-04-2010, 18:57
Nope .

Lanparth
04-04-2010, 18:57
I thought they were uplifted to the next phase of evolution?

Depends.

Some actually are still around, stuck in a more primitive state. Others were killed off by the Enslaver plague. And there is rumor that some ascended beyond their current form.

I'd still love to see an Old One styled Reptilish race in space, that didn't look like Lizardmen mind ya.

Flame Boy
04-04-2010, 18:57
I loved the Jes Goodwin 40k Skaven sketches. I can understand why they didn't develop the army to consciously seperate Warhammer and 40k from each other, but the WW1-styled rats looked pretty impressive. I guess the Krieg models are a similar style, though.

Col. Tartleton
04-04-2010, 19:23
I've always been fond of the notion that the Imperial Guard were Space Skaven...

Daemons of Chaos- Daemons of Chaos
Brettonia- Space Marines
Orcs- Orks
Warriors of Chaos- Chaos Space Marines
Dwarves- Necrons
Dark Elves- Dark Eldar
High Elves- CW Eldar
Lizardmen- Tyrannids
Empire- Tau
Skaven- Imperial Guard

Like that.

Anyhow, my custom species would be... actually I'd kind of like to straighten out the main species before we get to that point.

Lanparth
04-04-2010, 19:29
Why does everyone say Lizardmen are Tyranids?

They don't reflect one another visually, or in any way in regards to fluff? That always confuses me.

Troah
04-04-2010, 19:34
I always see Tau closer to Lizardmen. Both are blue, both are pretty isolated from everything else, both are ruled by a mystical cast (Slann & Ethereals) both have similar casts (Skinks = Water Cast, Kroxigor = Earth Cast, Saurus = Fire Cast) Both are fighting for what they believe to be the greater good (Lizardmen believe the Old Ones plans to be the greatest good).

I see Tyranids closer to Skaven then Lizardmen are to Tyranids.

TimLeeson
04-04-2010, 19:37
those wanting an ethereal race might want to read up on the Cryptos...they are gasseous beings with a green glow to them who can inhabit other beings. They apparently come from the dark void of space where no light shines. They can go through solid objects too, so raids on imperial craft ect would be quite terrifying. Read the dark heresy book "disciples of the dark gods" for more indepth information, I found it very inspiring as I too wanted an shadowy ethereal/energy type race.

PrimeMinisterSinister
04-04-2010, 20:09
Codex Hypnotoad.
Or a super intelligent colour of blue suspended in a prism.
But in all seriousness, a race of jellyfish-like humanoids would be rad. They'd have big clunky rudimentary enclosed-environmental suits. Picture big daddy from bio-shock with a squishy fish inside.

Sceleris82
04-04-2010, 20:45
The Cryptos sounds pretty awsome.

Regarding the etheral thing contra demons, in my world they dont play alike at all.

Demons are warp creatures given phsyical form, which they have when you play.
The "etheral" race would not fight in a physical form, but spirit form all the time. Which i think would be awsome =)

barrangas
04-04-2010, 21:25
I have a number of concepts that would be interesting for sci-fi but that could get linked to other concepts by the "that's kind of like...". For instance if I came up with an alien race that used genetic engineering like we use mechanical technology by bio-engineering species to fulfill specific functions. Give them the belief that all life has a predestined function that will allow the species to better serve these aliens. So they go around conquering worlds, using the different species as resources, and expanding their knowledge of genetic engineering. Make them highly intelligent, emotionless death camp butchers to add more grimdark. Give them troops engineered to fulfill different duties like ones for shooting and completely seperate ones for CC. What do you get when you add this together? Something very similar to nids yet still fairly different. You can also see elements of SM (Genetic Engineering + Fabius Bile), Eldar (Specialized Troops), and DE (Slavers).

Some of GW's concepts just try to fulfill several Sci-fi archetypes, like the Necrons who are both the robot rebellion and the zombie apocolypse. It's also hard to fit in anything new as there are a lot of people who take the stance that if it wasn't in the fluff since second ed then it doesn't have a place. I remember the huge stink created on the GW forums back when the Tau were added. So adding new alien armies in is an uphill battle. I think the easiest army for GW to put in at this point is the adeptus mechanicus as it's already supported by the fluff and would probably meet the least resistance even though it's yet another imperial army.

TimLeeson
04-04-2010, 22:36
I dont see why Forge World cant do alien races, I think that would make a really great Imperial Armour book. Iron Lords VS Barghesi for example, with some new nid stuff thrown in.

Prokrustes
05-04-2010, 00:38
Something truly alien and utterly non-anthropomorphic with a lovecraftian touch and a great need of tactis ;)

DuskRaider
05-04-2010, 00:53
I'd like to see an army based on those Vampires from Twilight. That would be super cool. :cool:

You're in luck, man! Blood Angels just came out yesterday :p

Meriwether
05-04-2010, 00:53
Codex Hypnotoad.

HQ and troops: 0-1 Hypnotoad

Stats: Don't matter.

Points: However many you happen to be playing.

Special Ability: ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD. The Hypnotoad automatically wins all games, unless it gets bored and decides to do something else.

PariahX
05-04-2010, 01:11
Aryans........

tacoo
05-04-2010, 01:24
I actually started to work on a race that was all about passive auras, and followed a Knightly Order as a background standpoint

HQ
1. in line with the more one man armiy thought, he is just a experienced knight with some special armour that makes him more "sensative" to the holy orders in the ranks

2. more like a conduit of the army, being able to , albeit briefly, channel aff the effects into him self, turning him into a near godd for a turn before violently exploding, cause a back lash amongst the holy orders

3. More of a channeler, he has the ability to take a holy order retinue that is not under the restrictions of below and also gives off all the auras in the army that u have fielded around him self, making himself a lightning rod for the abilities

Elite
Holy orders squads of 3-6 members that give a bonus to all units within 12 inches, and you can take up to 2 for each elite slot, and cant have more then 2 of the same
1)+1 (any stat, but cant pick same stat more then twice)
2)ap -1 (so ap 6 becomes 5)
3)twin linking nearby units
4)giving fearless
5)preferred enemie
6)FnP
7)relentless
8)armour save +1
9) gun str +1
10)gun RoF+1(rapid fire then would fire 2 at long, 3 at short etc)
11)invuln +1(if no invuln, add together the number of invuln auras they are near -7, that is there invuln save, you can not get better then a 2+)
12)living bomb(at anytime, choose 1 unit within range to be over loaded with power, to the point that they blow up, choose a model in that unit, and center a large blast over it, the blast does not scatter, and it affects both friendly and enemie models under the templat,
Str x(where x is number of models in the unit), ap y(ap is the number of auras the unit is effected by -7)

Troops
basic human statline, with a 5+ armour save, come in 2 varieties, shooty (str 3 ap6 rapid fire), and assault (pistol, ccw), can be cheap, but not receptive to auras (5 pts a model, 5-20 squad size, Inatiete level) , or normal, and recptive to auras (10 pts a model, squad size 5-10)

Dedicated transports
holy order transport
av 14 front, 14side, 11 rear, tank, no weapons, open toped
--basic idea would be a reltivily big transport, the kind u have a hard time hiding, with open ground in the middle to make it look like the holy order stand in a circle doing there prayers (auras)
-grunt transport
heavy armoured
-av 12 front, 12 side, 11 rear, tank, 1 fire point at front
light
-av 11 front, 10 side, 10 rear, tank, fast, open toped
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Fast attack

jump pack version of troops with the option of buying a reception rod, making them be effected by all auras in 24 inches, 14 pts a model, 40 pts for recption rod

somthing akin to a land speeder, mainly for anti vechicle

Heavy suport
unit with space marine statline, 4+ armour save, 5+ invuln, str 5 ap6 assault 2 24 inch guns, can take las cannon equivalant, and Hb equivlant, roughly 35 pts a model

some sorta of a heavy tank
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basic premise is a army that can field swarms of weak infantry, or a army that feels every lost unit dearly, that can start the game extremely terrifing, but end no stronger then guardsmen. it can go all the way down to 2 super squads that are t7 if desired (t3, +2 from elites, +2 from 2 chanaler hq) hardest thing is trying to figure out point cost

Firaxin
05-04-2010, 01:43
Just use the Creature Feature rules...

Hellebore
05-04-2010, 02:10
A race that uses teleportation to move. Uses short ranged weapons, has energy shielding and teleports to shooting range. Small elite army, non humanoid (perhaps an armoured jellyfish centaur).

Hellebore

texancowboy
05-04-2010, 16:47
ALIENS VS. . . . PREDADTORS!!! We need Predatorish race that would be similar to Demon Hunters only the hunt the numberless horads of Nids that come. They are either animalistic with super advanced technology with few models and even fewer super expensice machines that are well made (claoking field maybe?) or a kind of Mercanary outfit that hails from the Nid'S Galaxy come to fight for and protect the highest bidder, causing many more fights to who gets to hire the Predators.




HELL yeah. that would be awesome.

Lord Malorne
05-04-2010, 17:37
Super duper kewl idea!

TimLeeson
05-04-2010, 17:40
A race that uses teleportation to move. Uses short ranged weapons, has energy shielding and teleports to shooting range. Small elite army, non humanoid (perhaps an armoured jellyfish centaur).

Hellebore

That's a really good and imaginative idea. Teleportation to move would be very different and interesting tactical niche.

Lord Malorne
05-04-2010, 17:41
Almost like warp spiders or the veil of darkness...