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jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 10:28
ALL SLOTS ON THE COMMAND SQUAD HAVE BEEN FILLED. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO OFFERED TO HELP. THE FULL LIST IS ON PAGE 5. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO HELP. WE DON'T WANT TOO MANY PEOPLE AS IT GETS COMPLICATED. APOLOGIES TO THOSE WHO MISSED OUT ON A PLACE

THE FORUM CAN BE FOUND HERE (http://www.kasabiancampaign.myfastforum.org)


Hi fellow Warseers,

With the lack of a 40K worldwide campaign from GW for several years i thought it would be a cool idea to have one on Warseer. I want to gauge reactions first and also lay out a few of my overarching ideas. Also as i am but one person, i'm going to need some people to help me administer different regions, write fluff as circumstances require, write scenario rules etc. So if you're interested in helping out vote as such in the poll and i'll PM you when (and if) we get into the planning stage. You don't need to post to that effect unless you have other stuff to say as well. As a sort of general timeline i'd really like to get it kicked off for the summer but we'll see how it goes. (Yeah its a pathetic timeline :p)

So some of the general ideas:

You wouldn't necessarily have to play Warseer members though there might be a small advantage if you do simply to encourage it where possible. A degree of honesty would be required as it wouldn't work if you simply played the weakest players in your store. There would be some scenarios, similar to those in battle missions, but they wouldn't have different force org etc (except possibly planetstrike) so you can simply pick up games at your local club/store.

You'd be able to play any race but there will be advantages to playing certain races as the story line requires and certain slight disadvantages to playing the same or allied races but only to encourage playing by the fluff, nothing too major.

There would be deadlines. e.g. you might be expected to play 4 games on a period of 2 months. There wouldn't be any sanctions if you didn't but it would affect your faction as scores will be adjusted to make up for number differences between factions.

Originally signup will be by race but some factions will be merged to try and get numbers up and other factions will be allied to try and ensure fairness.

Again a degree of honesty will be required in terms of reporting scores. It's very easy to pretend a loss never happened and play another game but the campaign just won't work.

If you lose to a non Warseer member it will affect the campaign i.e. if lots of people lose to non member orks, a faction of feral orks will be written in but it won't help the ork faction.

So if you feel its a good idea vote so, so i can contact if and when we kick off, and feel free to post any suggestions. I do have ideas for fluff and scenarios etc. but that comes at a later stage.

The general idea is that if you want to take it seriously and seek out other members that's cool, and if you just want to play your friends as normal and report scores, that's cool.

Jamesterjlrb

neko
04-04-2010, 11:36
I'd definitely be interested, and would also be interested in helping out with the running of the campaign.
Due to various circumstance I don't get to play very often at the moment, so I'd also be willing to consider any roles that would exclude me from participating for reasons of fairness (GMing/random events/etc).

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 11:58
Thank you to those that have already replied, it's only been an hour bit it's starting to show promise. i want to get a few (a lot) more people before anything happens but i'll add that people are free to join up at any point in the campaign. Obviously this will most likely exclude them from most of the awards but that's inevitable.

@Neko: I'll pm you.

Reflex
04-04-2010, 12:01
It sounds interesting. One thing about the organisers though, which sounds bad, but it takes alot of time to make sure something like this would run smooth. so if someone would be interested in helping it would be rather hard/ time consuming so make sure you have the time before you volunteer.

kabum
04-04-2010, 12:03
Looks like a great idea to me. The main problem is how honest some players can be... but these are alwways the problems in such organizations.
Sounds interesting and a nice idea.

bigcheese76
04-04-2010, 12:08
I really like the idea and I would be more than willing to help out myself with fluff and writing scenario special rules and things like that, at least as best I can.

Incase you wanted to know, I would most likely be playing guard, but where any fluff arises a need, I could use any of the armies mentioned in my sig if need be.

Anyway, just shoot me a PM if you need to about helping out with stuff.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:08
Absolutely behind what Reflex says, however i do need one off volunteers to write background/mini stories so if you can devote a couple of hours here or there to give a character some personality feel free to volunteer.

@big cheese, i'll pm you.

on another note you brought up, to keep things simple(r), you'll only be able to play armies in the same faction, i.e. inquisition will likely be a megafaction of daemonhunters and witchhunters so if you have both you could change which you use. Guard will likely be their own faction. However for the faction signups you'll need to choose a single codex and stick to it. When the factions are confirmed there may be some room for manouver but no guarantee.

Also volunteering places are on a first come first serve basis.

Dreachon
04-04-2010, 12:11
I'm definetly interested in playing in a big global campaign, been to long.
I don't have any warseer players around here so I will only be able to play against non members.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:14
that's cool Dreachon, that's why you don't have to play Warseer members. Any advantages for doing so will be negligible.

Thanghul
04-04-2010, 12:20
Happy to write fluff, senarios, rules etc...

Have you thought about using those orb aliens as the "big evil", using mind control on lesser creatures. That way you could give the campaign its own feel.

Ironhand
04-04-2010, 12:23
I'm interested, but I'd have to see a lot more of the set up/background, etc. before I'd commit to join. Something like Thanghul's idea (big orb aliens) for instance would really turn me off. (Sorry Thangul)

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:27
Thats fair enough Ironhand. Rest assured there will be no big orb aliens. (sorry Thanghul) It will mainly be orthodox fluff without too much crazy stuff that doesn't fit. (there will be a bit though :D) If you could vote that you'd like to join just so i can check numbers and contact you when we get going that'll be good. Voting as such does not mean any commitment at thisw stage.

Moogle
04-04-2010, 12:34
Jamesterjlrb I love this idea and am completely for it. You have my full support and I'll do what I can to help.
:D

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:37
Due to the very quick support i'll let loose a few teasers. The system will be called the Kasabian system. The planetary capital will be called Arasteia, more to come soon! :D

Sorros
04-04-2010, 12:37
I love the idea, and to perhaps make the results a bit more valid--how about players submit video reports or something? I have no warseer members around my parts, so they wouldn't be able to confirm/deny reports, at least from what I can tell, but there are a TON of players here.

Also, due to the fact I have Exodites, you clearly need an excuse for them. Maiden world around?

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:41
I don't want to burden people with video reports or anything like that. If i suspect a player is bending the results a little bit i may ask for photographic evidence but it's highly unlikely. There's no point playing if you're going to cheat because it's primarily a fluff driven campaign. it's not about winning.

how much is having a maiden world worth? :p

Sorros
04-04-2010, 12:46
5 yuan. I could ask around my local gaming place a bit, might be able to get some people on board. Free campaigns that only require them to play normally and just record results, and every now and then play other missions? Good times.

Only issue is the inordinate amount of Marines players...half of our Xenos disappeared...the Necron player, the other two Eldar players, a Dark Eldar player.../sigh.

Also, a threat to a Maiden world gives a stereotypical excuse for Biel Tan to hop into the fight. And Chaos has a tendency to try and take the world spirits, and tyranids like eating everything.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 12:50
@Sorros, i'll Pm you.

It's not a problem provided you're happy to play marine players. But if you're playing a friend elsewhere and want to submit that, it's cool. All i ask is that you tell your opponent it's a campaign game first and commit to recording that result no matter what it was. You'll be able to play normal missions if your opponent isn't too keen but playing the special missions will be worth slightly more points.

Da Black Gobbo
04-04-2010, 12:57
that's a great idea, i'd love to give some help!

Copella
04-04-2010, 13:19
I'd be willing to give a hand in my area. Not sure if there are many Warseer players here, but since we don't have word of a summer campaign yet. This would be a good alternative. I'll see if there is much interest around here. If there is I'll pm you.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 13:22
this campaign will be longer than a summer and can be played in conjunction with other campaigns. One game can count for both if you're willing to take the risk of a loss in each campaign.

magicmonkey
04-04-2010, 14:08
i want in, although the people round here don't like special games so most, if not all will be standard games, but i like the idea:)

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 15:49
That's fine magicmonkey. The idea is you play how you want. if you do play the special missions you'll get bonus points but it's up to you.

TO ALL: This is the Google Doc where the command squad list is. If you wish to help out then vote as such and let me know in a Pm what you'd like to do.

Kasabian campaign command squad (http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AbI7aW5KdLrLZGR2MzQzNGtfNDFmZno2NXRuaw&hl=en_GB)

Fuzzymoldyork
04-04-2010, 17:14
It sounds like an interesting idea.

I enjoyed the last campaign that GW hosted, mostly because it got me playing significantly more games.

If this gets off the ground I would love to participate, however I wouldn't be able to help with the organization of it. Grad school already takes up most of my time.

Good luck and happy gaming.

magicmonkey
04-04-2010, 17:16
ill be putting my spacewolves up for this campaign then
hope its good (crosses fingers)

SimpleSquid
04-04-2010, 19:34
I'd love to play some games for this, but helping out isn't really something I've got the time for right now, too many work commitments.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 20:07
That's cool. No-one needs to make excuses about not being able to help. It's just if you can and want to, it's appreciated.

I'll be posting a provisional timeline shortly to see what people think about it.

pvpbob
04-04-2010, 20:49
Sounds great. I'll toss my Tau Cadre into the mix.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 20:52
OK so this is a provisional timeline. Not solid yet. Even if you don't like it but like the general campaign idea sign up and if stays the same you can back out. There's no commitment. At the moment i was thinking of making it just over a year long but it mqy get shorter (or if people think so, longer :p). So let me know what you think. Is the number of rounds right. Their length. The number of games in each?

5 sections. Each section 4 games over approx 2 months.

May- Kasabian's background released, commander profiles released. Formal sign up begins.
June- Sign up ends (although people may join late) Mid June- Section 1 begins

mid August- Section 1 ends

September- Section 2 begins

November- Section 2 ends

Mid November- Section 3 begins

Mid January - Section 3 ends

February - Section 4 begins

April - Section 4 ends

Mid April- Section 5 starts

Mid June - Section 5 ends

July- Results announced

The 2 week gaps are to allow the command squad to do their stuff and get the background and scenarios for the next section sorted.

C+C welcome.

Ithaka
04-04-2010, 21:28
I'd love to join in, I hope you get it off the ground.
Why don't you get in contact with the admin to create a sub-forum like the warseer chapter has?
I would also be pleased to help with anything (that didn't preclude me from playing games :D ).

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 21:39
No, helping out doesn't preclude you from playing games. When we have some more people i'll speak to Wintermute but i want to make sure there's enough people to justify it.

starlight
04-04-2010, 21:39
Interesting idea...but two concerns...

1) Have you asked the Staff (specifically the Tech Priests and Admins) if they're ready for a potentially huge increase in Server and Bandwidth Load?

and

2) This:


Again a degree of honesty will be required in terms of reporting scores. It's very easy to pretend a loss never happened and play another game but the campaign just won't work.

is what has ruined pretty much every GW Worldwide Campaign...and part of why they stopped doing them. Too many people cheated, thus making it hard to come up with a clear resolution to the scenario.

Of course GW's primary reason for the campaigns was to drive sales up and the lack of subsequent sales increase was the larger part of why they were cancelled.

Good luck if you can pull it off, but I'd suggest talking with the Staff (Admins and Tech Priests) before you get to far along...

starlight

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 21:54
Thanks for the info Starlight. I hadn't anticipated it getting that large but just in case who should i speak to in particular. As for honesty, i'll be keeping a look out for dodgy results. :evilgrin:. That aside, it is a fair point. But i'd like to think that the Warseer community will be more honest than GWs 10 yr old clientele. :D

starlight
04-04-2010, 22:07
Warseer *is* GW's clientèle...mostly... :shifty:


That said, PM Wintermute (http://www.warseer.com/forums/member.php?u=349) with a heads up, or open a Thread in the Helpdesk. :)

Sorros
04-04-2010, 22:08
Honestly, what incentive is there to cheat? It doesn't do anything official, so nobody gets anything out of it. No trophies, certificates, t-shirts (though if this does launch with even a hundred people, I am totally making one of those custom shirts), etc. There just isn't a reason to cheat. It's also not intervening with people's regular games, just giving them a fluffy, connected/interesting way on a large scale. If people want to do an epic campaign--there are still special missions. If not, they can play normally and take a mere 5 minutes to score it up and post results.

Also, if necrons, witchhunters, or daemonhunters repeatedly do well, someone is cheating :p

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 22:18
Sorros is right. Also we are looking at our own forum, stay tuned!

starlight
04-04-2010, 22:19
There wasn't any reason to cheat on the GW ones either, but people still did it... :(

There isn't any reason to cheat at Warhammer, but not only do people do it, but people Post Threads explaining to others how to do it... :(

...and just for that, I'll play my SoB and GKs every game! :p

Sorros
04-04-2010, 22:45
EoT gave official fluff, like Eldrad dying (which I think was retarded, but w/e)

this is an unofficial fluff campaign in a random system, much like any regular club campaign but on a large scale. If someone cheats here, then they would probably try and cheat on a regular campaign, wouldn't they? If results are irregular/repeatedly utter pwnage, ask for a bit of proof or somethig just to make sure.

Condottiere
04-04-2010, 22:58
From personal experience, I was wondering when I saw the scores how it was possible to have that many massacres; at the very least, there was a temptation to remain near the top of the official score sheet.

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 22:58
Lets not worry about that at the moment but i'll leave it by saying there will be protocols for dealing with suspected foulplay.

@Starlight. I think it'll be easier to use our own Forum which i've started. Though do you guys mind if we carry on here for basic signups until we get up and running.

@Command Squad I'll PM you with details of our new home tommorow.

@everyone Thank you. Who'd have known that in 10 hours we'd be this far!!

Thanghul
04-04-2010, 23:00
Thats fair enough Ironhand. Rest assured there will be no big orb aliens. (sorry Thanghul) It will mainly be orthodox fluff without too much crazy stuff that doesn't fit. (there will be a bit though :D) If you could vote that you'd like to join just so i can check numbers and contact you when we get going that'll be good. Voting as such does not mean any commitment at thisw stage.

Drat

I do think the Umbral would be cool though:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/umbral%2040k/Ursca/Umbra.jpg

jamesterjlrb
04-04-2010, 23:02
Drat

I do think the Umbral would be cool though:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/umbral%2040k/Ursca/Umbra.jpg

Yes Thanghul of course:shifty:


...and just for that, I'll play my SoB and GKs every game! :p

Do you want to join in Starlight? :D :p

Firaxin
05-04-2010, 02:12
I'm not joining until I see the premise. But I would be up for / capable of writing fluff for any faction.

MadHatter
05-04-2010, 02:20
I would be in for a campaign as well. I do not mind helping out in any area i am in.

The Custodian
05-04-2010, 03:32
Sounds good, Ive been a part of numerous small campaigns myself. Mostly these were with the remnant of some of the Medusa groups that made some for themselves. Speartip Alliance, 12th Army Group (Now the crusade of saint carmine). They've made campaigns and each have had minor succes, however the most recent one ended badly due to a lack of participation (Previous ones had usually about 30 or so players running about, this one only had 3 active people)

Anyway for some help I have a link to one of the more succesfull campaigns... But im not going to put it here since the forum the campaign was on is dead and Porn bots have spammed the place to hell...

EldritchRaider
05-04-2010, 06:18
I would be into that, I'd like to help but I often have a packed timetable of things to do and get done so what would be required to help?

starlight
05-04-2010, 06:30
Do you want to join in Starlight? :D :p

If I have the time... :shifty:


If things work out, I have a huge course load coming up...

252nd Fire Dragoon
05-04-2010, 08:00
Aloha,
Id love to do it... But I can't :cries:. Hawaii...soo...lonely hehe. Anyway I could help or anything? If so send a PM.

Finn
05-04-2010, 11:36
Definitely interested. I've got a lot of experience in game design you can draw on as well...I'm rather curious what you've got in mind so far, actually. Campaign/victory mechanics, fluff tie-ins, etc. (and I feel like Google Docs/Google Wave was invented for collaborative editing, so..)...

When I first opened this thread I expected something more like Eye of Terror, run by "citizens" (as it were) rather than what the 3-page read turned out to be. That said, I'm still interested and I think it would be a wonderful learning opportunity and a great step towards setting up regular "worldwide" internet-based campaigns ;). Which is something I want to do...eventually.

Sending you a PM with my email, that's so much easier than Warseer PMs for me ;).

self biased
05-04-2010, 15:03
sounds like a hoot. count me in.

DarkstarSabre
05-04-2010, 15:07
Seriously, I like the thought of this. To be honest, the main problem I've always had with these campaigns is the time to play in is way too restrictive to be honest and the campaigns were never that well developed.

You see, my issue is trying to cram games of 40k into 2 or 3 months just doesn't work when your regular group has a full time job and/or are in the services and get deployed for months at a time.

I'd love to see something with a thought out and well developed sector map, background, personalised icons etc (with player forces appearing on there and working together) rather than one of GW's classic 'PLAY A LOT OF GAMES KIDDIES' approaches with some rudimentary mathematics crammed in at the end with a lot of waffling to twink the results.

neko
05-04-2010, 16:15
The main problem with the 1 player = 1 army idea (that it looks like you're trying to describe) is that the whole campaign becomes a popularity contest, with the side with the most players winning. The best way around this that I've seen is the more abstract method of pooling the results of all players from a faction and using them to represent all the forces from that faction.

Basically, if there is only one person playing in the Tau faction, his results represent 100% of the Tau forces, and whilst he only plays one Cadre, his results would be representing the actions of all the Cadres in the system. If on the other hand there are 100 Marine players, the results of any given player would only represent 1% of the Marine forces in the system (assuming that all marine players play the same number of games).
For this kind of results pooling, I just don't see a way that you can show individual forces on a map.


That said, I at some point I would like to run a smaller campaign which does have individual players. To get around the faction problem I would probably set it a little further into the future and have the Imperium in the process of collapsing. In such a universe I can happily say that each player is their own faction, as the main faction of the universe will then be in a state of civil war. With the smaller number of players though it would probably need to be run in a gaming club, where the matches are more verifiable.

jamesterjlrb
05-04-2010, 16:15
Hi DarkStarSabre.

You can play the four games at any point over the two month period. So you can play them all in one day or spread them out. Apart from that there's not really much else i can do to help in terms of fitting the games in. If you are being deployed or have other circumstances that are going to preclude you from playing over a session, providing you tell you region admin before the session starts you can be excluded without taking any penalties. However once a session has started you cannot exclude yourself or unexclude yourself. You just have to take the penalties. This is to keep things fair for everyone.

As for a map, i don't think it will happen. It means a person has to sit down and spend a huge amount of time anf effort on it as it's not really something that can be split up between different people. one of the things i am adamant about is that everything we do is done properly. I'd rather not have a map than have a rubbish MS word one with no effort in it.

There will however be well thought out background that will change and be affected by each session's results.

Firaxin
05-04-2010, 18:41
Not even a map? :(
Count me out then. Maps are like half the fun of a campaign.

GrogDaTyrant
05-04-2010, 18:53
Sounds like a good idea, but it's not something I'd be interested in. Especially if popularity of certain armies in comparison to others isn't factored in. For example, if there's 4x as many loyalist marine players as there is Chaos, and nothing is done to effect the weight of these battle results (let alone to keep 'Billy-Bob's Bad Dude Marines' from scoring 100 victories a day without fail).

The primary reason I wouldn't be interested in it, is because I'm an Ork player. If it's a campaign mostly against Orks then it doesn't matter how well myself or other Ork enthusiasts do, as it won't affect the tidal wave of results from our opposition (which will be just about everyone else). If it's a campaign against anyone else (i.e. Chaos), then nothing short of a massive undertaking the likes of what happened during the EoT campaign will get the Orks notice.

Even so, it sounds like a good idea and I'm all for it. I just won't be taking part.

jamesterjlrb
05-04-2010, 20:06
All factions are going to be weighted the same, this means that if space marines have 10 players and tau have 5, each tau player's result os worth double. This is because each factions scores will be averaged so a factions score is effectively the average number of points their players get per game.

Even so, we will be merging factions and creating alliances where normal 40k fluff allows in order to try and keep each "side" with roughly the same number of people.

As for power gamers, we won't do anything to forcibly stop them. We can't. It wouldn't work. However, if we feel that people are power gaming and winning every game then we will at first announce the removal of a best general award and secondly if it continues, cease publishing individual's results in order to persuade people to play freindlier, fluffier lists. After all its not a tournament, it's a storyline driven campaign.

Maps. I'm going to make one thing clear. There will not be a map that you can fight over as such. It would hideously complicate the campaign mechanic and while it may be fun and ppretty at first, i am fairly sure people will end up regretting it. What there may be, and i make no promises here, is a map that shows you the planets and everyones bases etc, that is then updated each session based on factions performances to show factions conquests or losses. i.e. Arrows and shading a bit like a battle report or the background section of the 40k rule book.

I can't please everyone but thank you for telling me your concerns and keep doing so so if i have information that may allay them, i can tell you.

Jamesterjlrb

Firaxin
05-04-2010, 20:09
a map that shows you the planets and everyones bases etc, that is then updated each session based on factions performances to show factions conquests or losses. i.e. Arrows and shading a bit like a battle report or the background section of the 40k rule book.
That's all you really need.

Flyrant
05-04-2010, 20:11
I think that this is a great idea!

I'd love to write the odd bit of fluff here and there, just send me a PM :)

Culgore
05-04-2010, 20:14
I am interested, I am a chaos player (about 3000 pts strong DG). I would like to help in anyway. PM if you have any requests.

jamesterjlrb
05-04-2010, 20:15
That's all you really need.

Glad to hear it. When we start sign ups the link will be on here and you're more than welcome to join in. The map, if it happens, most likely won't get done till the start of session 1 in early june. If it doesn't happen, you're equally welcome to drop out.

Repentant Son
05-04-2010, 20:19
Have you thought of fluff yet? Because I was thinking something like the nemesis crown campaign.

It could be on a system with one or more maiden worlds (Eldar involved) being attacked by Tyranids (Tyranids involved). The Dark Eldar hear there is a Maiden World at stake and seek to strike a blow at the Eldar, so they attack (Dark Eldar involved). The Tau are trying to earn the respect of the Eldar so that they can become alllies (Tau involved) but are fully prepared to attack them if negotations go sour. The Astartes, seeing such a gathering of enemes call in their allies to purge this xenos filth (Imperium invlolved). The excess of emotion caused by all this attracts the attention of the Chaos Gods (Chaos involved). The Necrontyr feel the touches of Chaos and so begin to awake to drive off these intruders (Necrontyr involved).

This help any?

Deff Mekz
05-04-2010, 20:25
I'm definatly doing this, the Blood Angels will shed warfare! I'd love to help!

If you need me to I have 2 ,issions in mind I will be willing to write, as I occasionly write new missions for my club anyway. One is a stealth mission which involves killing sentries and planting bombs. The other is where a entire SM army with Jump Packs leaps into battle all with the heroic intervention rule.

Sorros
05-04-2010, 20:36
Have you thought of fluff yet? Because I was thinking something like the nemesis crown campaign.

It could be on a system with one or more maiden worlds (Eldar involved) being attacked by Tyranids (Tyranids involved). The Dark Eldar hear there is a Maiden World at stake and seek to strike a blow at the Eldar, so they attack (Dark Eldar involved). The Tau are trying to earn the respect of the Eldar so that they can become alllies (Tau involved) but are fully prepared to attack them if negotations go sour. The Astartes, seeing such a gathering of enemes call in their allies to purge this xenos filth (Imperium invlolved). The excess of emotion caused by all this attracts the attention of the Chaos Gods (Chaos involved). The Necrontyr feel the touches of Chaos and so begin to awake to drive off these intruders (Necrontyr involved).

This help any?

Just gonna put it out there, as one of the general background fluff writers, there is indeed a Maiden world at stake. All factions do have a basic story regarding their appearance (although Dark Eldar are somewhat loose...problem is that they don't really want to go off and conquer the whole freaking galaxy, their only real purpose is to raid and pillage for souls), which will be fleshed out in the following weeks. No more details for now :p

I am willing to draw up a small system map, as it just so happens a family member of mine teaches art and can make some nice galactic stuff ;) But not a heavily detailed, each-battleground or an online complex one.

ShaiAhlude
05-04-2010, 20:39
I do think it's a great idea, just not sure how much time I could commit to it, but even if I don't participate, I hope you get more than enough people and everyone has a great time.
Just have one caution here:
Again a degree of honesty will be required in terms of reporting scores. It's very easy to pretend a loss never happened and play another game but the campaign just won't work.
This is what killed battle for armageddon. Players were posting blatantly false reports to "win". On both sides. While most people are honest enough to fess up, it would'nt take much to taint the results, which is why playing non-warseer members has it pitfalls....

jamesterjlrb
05-04-2010, 21:44
we still need the following volunteers:

A general admin/spreadsheet jocky who will also be in charge of all areas other than Uk and US.

Background writers for the following factions-

Marines x2
Tyranids
Necrons
Witch Hunters
Tau

If you voted to help but have not yet pmed me telling me what you want to do, and still want to help, hurry!
if in doubt check the google doc linked to in the opening post.

Xyrex
05-04-2010, 22:44
I would join in as Dark Angels. I would love it if this campaign would have some sort of fluff that would stuff the mouths of people who keep yelling the DA are traitors. Honestly, it's the FALLEN that lead CHAOS DAEMONS and CHAOS not the DA. Anyways, Id love to play this. Can you please give us a date it begins and when you will give us the fluff?

Sorros
05-04-2010, 23:18
We won't hate on the dark angels. Too much.

On a serious note, the factions will all be treated equally. Right now a campaign map is under developement, a brief overview of the system and I am personally working on background fluff for each planet...I have a tendency to carry a notebook around for sporadic writing, and now I have more stuff to scribble down...apologies for typos, damnable iPhone touch keypad and random auto corrects when I don't want them.

Finn
05-04-2010, 23:30
I would join in as Dark Angels. I would love it if this campaign would have some sort of fluff that would stuff the mouths of people who keep yelling the DA are traitors. Honestly, it's the FALLEN that lead CHAOS DAEMONS and CHAOS not the DA. Anyways, Id love to play this. Can you please give us a date it begins and when you will give us the fluff?

Funny you should mention this. I play Chaos...and also having a DA force that's based with the same materials and all that jazz, it looks like they're fighting on the same battlefield.

My Chaos are led by a small cadre (3-5, I haven't exactly picked them out yet) of Fallen. I'm thinking my Terminator squad. Not that it has much bearing on the tabletop (nor that I'm the designated CSM fluff man), but there you have it.

Ithaka
05-04-2010, 23:54
Ok I'd like to volunteer to write for Space marines or Witch hunters. PM sending...
And, how about designing campaign badges for each army, that people can earn to show they participated.

Sorros
06-04-2010, 00:56
>.> I was actually planning to make an emblem for Eldar myself, perhaps an emblem to represent each army would be nice...a stereotypical symbol of said army combined with a unique part?

daboarder
06-04-2010, 01:15
What chapter is going to be in overall command of the space marine's? perhaps a chapter whose background gives them experiance with eldar would be good. Hell maybe even have the deathwatch in the mix?

Caiphas Cain
06-04-2010, 01:19
I'd like to join. No one I game with is on Warseer though. I could help out too if you need some more help.

sabre4190
06-04-2010, 01:24
big, big word of advice: dont make the war take on just one planet. it never works. Reasons for every faction to be fighting on one individual world at a time almost always come off as contrived and unnatural. Just imagine all the ships for each race hovering around the planet. that would degenerate awfully fast. But if you turn it in to a sector or something involved dozens of planets (or more), you create new fronts to fight on. It takes away some of the clutter, and allows for a little bit of a more balanced narrative.

Captain Frankus
06-04-2010, 03:07
Just a question, what's going to be done about the orks?

jamesterjlrb
06-04-2010, 07:12
Ok I'd like to volunteer to write for Space marines or Witch hunters. PM sending...
And, how about designing campaign badges for each army, that people can earn to show they participated.

Like that idea, consider it stolen :p


big, big word of advice: dont make the war take on just one planet. it never works. Reasons for every faction to be fighting on one individual world at a time almost always come off as contrived and unnatural. Just imagine all the ships for each race hovering around the planet. that would degenerate awfully fast. But if you turn it in to a sector or something involved dozens of planets (or more), you create new fronts to fight on. It takes away some of the clutter, and allows for a little bit of a more balanced narrative.

It's going to be on 5 planets. This means we can spread the forces out while still making each planet significant. Also if we have ten factions or so it means 2 forces per planet give or take, which works nicely.


Just a question, what's going to be done about the orks?

The orks will have an involvement, like every other faction. i don't want to give too much away.


What chapter is going to be in overall command of the space marine's? perhaps a chapter whose background gives them experiance with eldar would be good. Hell maybe even have the deathwatch in the mix?

We haven't decided yet. That's still under discussion. (or at least will be soon when we get round to details like that)


I'd like to join. No one I game with is on Warseer though. I could help out too if you need some more help.

I should mention that the reference to Warseer members isn't really relevant. We're creating our own forum which we'll release shortly, where tghe campaign is going tbe based. Even if you're friends don't want to join it, you can play them and report the result.


I would join in as Dark Angels. I would love it if this campaign would have some sort of fluff that would stuff the mouths of people who keep yelling the DA are traitors. Honestly, it's the FALLEN that lead CHAOS DAEMONS and CHAOS not the DA. Anyways, Id love to play this. Can you please give us a date it begins and when you will give us the fluff?

Dates: The timetable on page 2 (iirc) is mostly correct still. We release the forum and system fluff on May 1st and signups start. We release the commander profiles and possibly the map (though this may be slightly later) May 15th. Signups end June 1st. June 15th the gaming begins.

If you miss the signups you may join late. All this info and more will be on the forum.

Hope this helps,

Jamesterjlrb

RCgothic
06-04-2010, 07:27
Ah, a subsector sized campaign. Very nice. :) My forces of the Imperium stand ready.

genestealer_baldric
06-04-2010, 09:53
wow this sounds very intresting Kudos for getting it going. :)

there are quite few of player of most races near me that will be willing to join in a campain like this.

Iam willing to help if you need it just Pm me i would probbily more helpfull with the tyranid faction than others.

my nids could allways do with cosuming another sub sector and all who enter in.

SandQueen
06-04-2010, 10:14
Sounds delicious, I'd be very interested

Sorros
06-04-2010, 10:39
wow this sounds very intresting Kudos for getting it going. :)

there are quite few of player of most races near me that will be willing to join in a campain like this.

Iam willing to help if you need it just Pm me i would probbily more helpfull with the tyranid faction than others.

Cool, ask them if they can sign up when the actual forum goes public (not until May, but still, just to get an idea of how many people are up for it). We already have the forum, its just up for the 'command squad' (writers, rules/management, etc)


my nids could allways do with cosuming another sub sector and all who enter in.

Your Tyranids aren't here for that reason alone, I'll give you that.

The current system map merely shows positions of 5 planets and their names, soon the positions of forces and general movements will be added on.

daboarder
06-04-2010, 11:17
One thing I'm worried about is the factions being limited to a single planet each. For example I don't think ti would be cool to have space marines just fighting Chaos marines for the entire campaign.

genestealer_baldric
06-04-2010, 11:37
Cool, ask them if they can sign up when the actual forum goes public (not until May, but still, just to get an idea of how many people are up for it). We already have the forum, its just up for the 'command squad' (writers, rules/management, etc)


Your Tyranids aren't here for that reason alone, I'll give you that.

The current system map merely shows positions of 5 planets and their names, soon the positions of forces and general movements will be added on.

i will speak to most of the people tonight and tmrw at the club and i will make them aware of this and point them the way of the forum.

ooo a shinny prize for the nids now thats sounds intresting. :D

thats sounds kool iam glad there are more than 1 or 2 planets or things could of become rather conjested.

jamesterjlrb
06-04-2010, 12:06
One thing I'm worried about is the factions being limited to a single planet each. For example I don't think ti would be cool to have space marines just fighting Chaos marines for the entire campaign.

Hell no, the plot will have more twists and turns than a twisty turny thing. We'll be keeping you on your toes, of that have no doubt. :evilgrin:

jamesterjlrb
06-04-2010, 13:59
The command squad has now finished recruiting. A list is below. Please continue to express support and ask questions and we'll answer as much as we can without spoiling any surprises. Check back here on May 1st when we'll release the Forum, background and start formal signups. Can all members of the command squad who are yet to sign up to the forum please do so. PM me if you need the link.

The Command Squad

Principal Admin

Jamesterjlrb

Region control team

US
-Copella

UK
-Neko

Other
-Axel

Website admin
-Neko

Fluff Team

Overall
-jamesterjlrb
-Sorros
-252nd fire dragoon

Marines
-mightymconeshot
-ithaka
-herald of kairos

Guard
-Bigcheese76

Eldar
-Dio' Ra

Tyranids
-The custodian

Orks
-09Project

Chaos Space Marines
-Culgore

Daemons of Chaos
-Culgore

Dark Eldar
-Yegerjo

Witch hunters
-Copella

Daemon Hunters
-252nd Fire Dragoon


Necrons
-FarseerAhnd'maan

Tau
-Neko

Dark Eldar
-yegerjo


Rules Team
-jamesterjlrb
-bigcheese76
-Da Black Gobbo
-finn
-deff mekz

bigcheese76
06-04-2010, 14:27
Great. Im glad the command squad is finalised and I am ready to get writing fluff and things when necacery.

jamesterjlrb
06-04-2010, 22:32
good, glad to hear it. Fluff writing will start in earnest next week. This week is about setting up the admin etc. for the signups/pinching myself, it's happened so fast :eek:

252nd Fire Dragoon
07-04-2010, 08:03
Aloha,
sweet. Glad I can help. One thing though.. I'll need to get in contact of some sort with the chaos demon fluff writer..Also I have a question if your willing to PM me.

genestealer_baldric
07-04-2010, 08:43
i spoke to a few people at the club last night and people sound intrested they were wondering basically how many games they would need to play to take part?

So far we have people intrested with diffrent factions some are members of warseer allready so they will head this way and sign up others who dont have the net said they will be probbaly using

1 - IG
1 - CSM
1 - Demons
1 - Sis/DE
1 - Eldar

and there will prob be more people involved along soon.

Lanparth
07-04-2010, 08:51
As long as signup isn't a nightmare this could be interesting.

jamesterjlrb
07-04-2010, 10:22
Signups pretty damn easy. We will let you know more soon. As for number of games, 4, in a period of 2 months, 5 times. i.e. 20 games in total over about a year.

Lanparth
07-04-2010, 10:29
Does everyone you need to play against have to be involved in the campaign as well?

Sorros
07-04-2010, 10:39
not necessarily, but it would be a plus/easier if the opponent was on board too. Not necessary, though.

Lanparth
07-04-2010, 10:41
Yea, I don't know how many guys down at the shop are on Warseer. Typically they scorn the internet for ruining the hobby by having people just mathhammer their lists instead of playing what they want and experimenting.

So a lot of them live by what they preach and don't really get involved with the boards.

Hypaspist
07-04-2010, 11:05
I'll raise this to the interest of my local buddies.
I'm certainly interested.
Any points value goes?
(the reason i say this is that I can see us wanting to tie in already organised games and/or our own personal leagues with this as we all obviously have limited get out of jail free cards Free Time :)

x-esiv-4c
07-04-2010, 11:07
I'll hit up my FLGS with this. We have a ton of players there.

jamesterjlrb
07-04-2010, 17:37
I'll raise this to the interest of my local buddies.
I'm certainly interested.
Any points value goes?
(the reason i say this is that I can see us wanting to tie in already organised games and/or our own personal leagues with this as we all obviously have limited get out of jail free cards Free Time :)

Sorry, but it's not in the spirit of the campaign to let you play games before the fluff and stuff is released and we start session 1 in mid june. Other than that if your personal leagues/tournys coincide you're more than welcome to link them up as any standard games can count provided they're played in the two month period.


Yea, I don't know how many guys down at the shop are on Warseer. Typically they scorn the internet for ruining the hobby by having people just mathhammer their lists instead of playing what they want and experimenting.

So a lot of them live by what they preach and don't really get involved with the boards.

We're not going to be running it on Warseer but on our own dedicated forum which is released May 1st. They're more than welcome to have a look at it and join if they want.

lowmanjason
07-04-2010, 18:59
i would like to get in on the necron action. i should be playing a very large 9000 point battle Necron Vs Eldar this month. will that help?

jamesterjlrb
07-04-2010, 19:40
We will be setting a game limit at about 2500 pts except possibly later in the campaign. We have to set some limits and this is one of the ones i've decided on. Apart from this there aren't too many restrictions.

Leth Shyish'phak
07-04-2010, 19:46
I would be very interested in this, I'll try to point some other people in the direction of it too.

Always good to have a story to accompany the piling up of skulls.

*is off to kill, maim and burn*

baphomael
07-04-2010, 21:10
Oooh, I'll be up for this, I always like a good campaign.

Erkenbrand
07-04-2010, 23:25
Both I and the Guard/Imperial forum I am part of - the Crusade of the Saint Carmine, formerly the 12th Army Group of Medusa V fame/infamy - would certainly be interested. We've tried our own small campaigns but we simply don't have enough regular players - a problem I doubt you will face. I'll get them over here ASAP.

Phenski
08-04-2010, 00:05
Hey jamesterjlrb, i saw this thread just as you posted it and just wanted to give it a few days before i answered on your poll/call-out to see the support... Well done! Im very keen, Chaos will be ready!

Primarch-Pyre
08-04-2010, 01:09
i would love the idea as it is hard to find players in my area plus id love to write the story line, as it would give loads of inspiratation for my new book.

Caiphas Cain
08-04-2010, 01:13
I play guard, so I just reached 2000 points. Is 2500 a fixed, all important number, or could I play at 2000 just as well?

jamesterjlrb
08-04-2010, 07:12
That's not a problem at all. I don't really have a 2000pt army although i could scrape one together. It's just i appreciate that some people regularly play at higher points limits and i want to allow people to continue to do so. The minimum points limit will be 1000 as i think its fair to say most people have an army of this size.

daboarder
08-04-2010, 09:01
Can we have games like kill team count in some way? as those extra methods of playing are fun. sure their small and may not HUGELY affect the overall story line but then on the other hand they can be used to fight assasination missions and the like.

Sorros
08-04-2010, 10:36
Actually, having minor special ops missions like that might be kind of cool. Maybe kill team will be take into account, not sure as of right now.

Also, some fluffy lists will be allowed. Guard auxiliaries may fight for the Tau, if they desire, or 'Chaos Mortals' if traitor. A painting competition will also be available.

Erkenbrand
08-04-2010, 12:06
Have you tried contacting the larger faction forums, e.g. the Imperial Guard Boot Camp (http://z4.invisionfree.com/Boot_Camp/index.php?)?

They have just short of 2,000 members so probably worth a sniff.

jamesterjlrb
08-04-2010, 12:11
Smaller games might be taken into account at various points along the campaign but in a specific way i can't tell you just now.

As for boot camo etc, I'm a little bit aprehensive about advertising it there and having a ton of guard players come over and unbalancing the factions. I'd have to advertise all the army-specific forums. At any rate we're waiting until signups start so we can direct them straight to our forum.

Jamie

Deff Mekz
08-04-2010, 13:16
I can't wait for this to start!

magicmonkey
10-04-2010, 07:57
you should do a few kill team/skirmish battles earlier on in the campaign and put the apoc later as more forces come to help
just my ideas

jamesterjlrb
10-04-2010, 08:06
There will be small missions and escalation styke games early on but there will also be a few later on..... :shifty:

bigcheese76
10-04-2010, 09:33
Thats great news, I really like playing kill team with my IG! Loads of terrain.

Darkoth
13-04-2010, 15:21
If you need another person to help run it i'd be interested, just drop me a PM if you need me. :)

magicmonkey
19-04-2010, 17:24
@jamesterjlrb when does your individual website go up and if it has can i have the link

jamesterjlrb
20-04-2010, 07:25
The website goes live on May 1st, touch wood. The link will be posted here and pmed to all those who expressed interest in the poll.

jamesterjlrb
01-05-2010, 17:35
And we're live! We've got our own forum now up and theres loads of fluff on it already and more on its way, signups are now open and i look forward to seeing you there.

The address: http://www.kasabiancampaign.myfastforum.org

RCgothic
03-05-2010, 18:19
The forums don't have an explanation of the campaign rules/the procedure for taking part. Could an admin make a rules sticky that covers the campaign instructions?

Easy E
03-05-2010, 18:39
As a veteran of running online campaigns, be ready for the initial excitement to be high, but then drop off as real life comes into play.

Does this campaign incorporate other GW game systems such as AI, Epic, INQ, or BFG?

Also, have you figured out a way to deal with the overwhelming number of Imps vs. other factions?

Kaptin Grimgrod Rotgut of the Skulsmash Reeverz. Haf teef, will skrap!

Edit: Might I also suggest a sector/system map?

Trains_Get_Robbed
03-05-2010, 20:28
Ugh my bad didn't read directions.

Tu-Shan
03-05-2010, 22:27
Well ive signed ready to purge the Xenos :)

Belisarius
04-05-2010, 03:45
I'm in. Also announced it on serpent's lair and the speartip site. can't wait to see a little more background on the planets and maybe even maps.

jamesterjlrb
04-05-2010, 07:45
The forums don't have an explanation of the campaign rules/the procedure for taking part. Could an admin make a rules sticky that covers the campaign instructions?

Sorry, forgot to do it as i'd put a lot up here and then sort of not put it up there. oops! I'll do it today or tomorrow. Thanks for pointing it out.


As a veteran of running online campaigns, be ready for the initial excitement to be high, but then drop off as real life comes into play.

Does this campaign incorporate other GW game systems such as AI, Epic, INQ, or BFG?

Also, have you figured out a way to deal with the overwhelming number of Imps vs. other factions?

Kaptin Grimgrod Rotgut of the Skulsmash Reeverz. Haf teef, will skrap!

Edit: Might I also suggest a sector/system map?


Unfortunately id on't see there being a way to incorporate specialist games. We are working on a system map and individual planetary maps.

Easy E
05-05-2010, 03:22
Do you mind if I post the campaign link on a few other forums that aren't army specific?

jamesterjlrb
05-05-2010, 07:43
Yeah, go for it.