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kamedake88
18-05-2010, 23:22
I was wondering if anyone has encountered any art of an Emperor Class (Imperator) Titan that doesn't look ridiculous. I mean most of the art out there looks like over eager fan-art. What I am looking for is something updated. Case in point; I am a huge fan of the new Reaver titan look over the cartoonish Armour-cast variant; Thats why i ordered three of them. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Occulto
19-05-2010, 00:32
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/244651.page

Not sure if this is what you're after, but someone made an updated Lucius pattern Imperator Titan.

Drakon
19-05-2010, 00:42
did i read that right and you got three FW reavers?

kamedake88
19-05-2010, 01:36
Cool tks for the pic it looks much better than most of the art I've seen. Yes Drakon you read correct, I bought two and received one as a gift for Christmas. Its going to be a long while before I am able to build and paint them though; I have one hell of a hectic schedule and I lack the proper tools and space to do proper work on them. I'm currently on Hiatus from all things Warhammer barring the online side of our most beloved hobby. Seeing As I put on weight this past semester, I have other more important priorities then playing and painting plastic men.

TheWarSmith
19-05-2010, 02:49
Check this one out. BEST thing I've ever seen out there.

http://www.tanksandtrolls.co.uk/40KWarlordTitanNEW.htm

dragonet111
19-05-2010, 06:07
When I watch those picture I always think, Yeah lets try hit.....but in the end I soon discover I just can't:D

Drakon
19-05-2010, 06:40
... Yes Drakon you read correct, I bought two and received one as a gift for Christmas. Its going to be a long while before I am able to build and paint them though; I have one hell of a hectic schedule and I lack the proper tools and space to do proper work on them...

wow I envy you. I have one myself which is all built and currently being painted. Seems easy but its not its quite a painstaking venture, but will be worth it when finished (if i ever finish lol)


When I watch those picture I always think, Yeah lets try hit.....but in the end I soon discover I just can't:D

I know what you mean its been hard enough building a FW one which is just putting it together let alone from scratch. I want to but just dont have the skills yet.

Wishing
19-05-2010, 08:56
That warlord with the movie is pretty funny, especially the pic of the reaver next to the gatling gun. The warlord and reaver used the same weapons back in the day, so theoretically the warlord gatling should fit onto the reaver too... except the warlord gatling is bigger than the entire reaver model. Mildly out of scale, unless it's supposed to be Inquisitor scale..

Wicksy
19-05-2010, 12:40
The Games Workshop in Manchester, UK has a scale version in it's window. Its about 7' high and has leman russ' coming out of it's feet. The model is excellent.

solvay
19-05-2010, 12:47
@ warsmith
that titan you linked to is from the yorkshire store in england and has since then been updated and given a titan ccw and is posed ripping a chaos warhound apart with it

@wicksy
you forgot to mention the one in manchester also has a vanquisher cannon on its crotch :D

kamedake88
19-05-2010, 15:50
The Games Workshop in Manchester, UK has a scale version in it's window. Its about 7' high and has leman russ' coming out of it's feet. The model is excellent.

Damn, I was in the UK last year and went to the london plaza store. At least I got to see their copy of Rogal Dorn. lol

Aethon Shaan
19-05-2010, 17:32
The Games Workshop in Manchester, UK has a scale version in it's window. Its about 7' high and has leman russ' coming out of it's feet. The model is excellent.

Wow really? they used to have a warlord, I'll have to go check out their imperator then.

TheWarSmith
20-05-2010, 02:29
@ warsmith
that titan you linked to is from the yorkshire store in england and has since then been updated and given a titan ccw and is posed ripping a chaos warhound apart with it

It's been updated on that page too. You can see the hand that's holding the defunct chaos warhound(also scratch built).

fiore hellheart
20-05-2010, 16:23
Okay, i know you wanted art, but i havent got any links to art, i do have plenty of information and links to other imperators that people have built though. I hope this helps. (otherwise i've wasted quite a while writing it)

I myself have a good deal of interest in titans, so far from my own searches the only realistic version of an imperator that i've been happy with is the dreamforge leviathan.

Crusader style:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/marineboy/CrusaderMain35.jpg
Blockhead style:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/marineboy/BlockheadMain35.jpg

Okay, i'll admit that they aren't actually imperators, but the leg mechanisms on those are simply gorgeous and look mechanically sound. If you combined that with the original waist up half of the imperator instead, then it would be great. This is something i'm trying to work into my imperator plans.

The other imperators are the mike basai one;http://members.cox.net/mbiasi/ArtWork/imperator.JPG This one i dislike as it is simply too much like the epic version, it retains the bad legs and the upper platform is a bit dodgy as far as im concerned.

There is the Manchester store imperator, unfortunately i cant find any decent pics of it, but you can just about see it in this image from gw website; http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m500782a_Imperator_Titan The one main issue i have with this titan is once again the legs, on the Manchester imperator they are simply far too big. i understand this is both to accomodate it so that it can physically stand.

There is another imperator built by a man named Georg, from Bavaria. This was featured by BoLS here, http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/02/showcase-40k-scale-imperator-titan.html And whilst it is a very good representation of the epic model i personally, once again, do not like the legs.

Yet another imperator shown on Bols is this one by Kyle Amlung and Nathan Comanse. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/02/40k-showcase-imperator-titan-must-see.html This is very good in terms of cunstruction and design, but isnt really a modern style imperator or an onld epic style, but just a beetleback warlord converted to an imperator.

Basically all of these example bring me up to the point that the single weakest poinbt in the design of the imperator and the struggle to make it look realistic, is those legs, they can't be too wide and bowed like the original imperator epic model. This looks unstable, they can't be too thin, certainly the calf area which looks weakest in most. Yet another thing with every single one of these is the pose, they are all standing in established poses with each foot having the toes in a line, this makes no sense as it is a really unstable position and makes the centre of gravity behind the feet in most cases, which is why the Manchester one's legs are really bulky and this one (http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/9/28/55907_md-2009%2C%20Compel%2C%20Games%20Day%2C%20Uk.JPG) has its feet extended behind it so that it can stand securely.

The way to beat this satic and unstable pose is to go dynamic, such as lackofbettername has done so here, (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211270&page=22) This allows it to be better balanced, and it just looks cool too.

Lastly i'd like to apologise for any bad criticism in this post, and whilst i have picked some of the bad points from each of the constructions, it should be remembered that each of these is incredible regardless, and if i had the motivation to build one myself then i would be in a better position to criticise.

Oh, and im not even going to get started on scale...

kamedake88
20-05-2010, 18:43
I guess my vision of what a titan is supposed to look like is jaded by years of Gundam and Armored Core fandom. if one looks at the Apocalypse books and see the size comparison between the Warhound and that gorgeous rendition of a Warlord; that is what I would like to see. Most of what is being produced by garage builders; while works of art in their own respect; look out of place in what my and I think by a larger extent Gamesworkshop's [modern] vision for 40k really is. What I see being built today by Garage builders looks more steam punk then anything else. Just my observation not a criticism.

Garoth
20-05-2010, 20:45
There is the Manchester store imperator, unfortunately i cant find any decent pics of it, but you can just about see it in this image from gw website; http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m500782a_Imperator_Titan The one main issue i have with this titan is once again the legs, on the Manchester imperator they are simply far too big. i understand this is both to accomodate it so that it can physically stand.

I took a pic of that beast when I saw it at Games Day, it was one of the few thing that really managed to impress me. Here (http://picasaweb.google.fi/SotuGaroth/OutriderGatheringGamesDay2009#5388430341579417938) you go.

TheWarSmith
21-05-2010, 02:44
i took a pic of that beast when i saw it at games day, it was one of the few thing that really managed to impress me. here (http://picasaweb.google.fi/sotugaroth/outridergatheringgamesday2009#5388430341579417938) you go.

jenga!! Jenga!! Jenga!!!!

MajorWesJanson
21-05-2010, 08:14
Blah, it's hard enough to get one of the Epic ones from E-bay for a decent price, much less worry about a 40K scale one.

Zenebatos
31-03-2011, 00:08
I think by a larger extent Gamesworkshop's [modern] vision for 40k really is. What I see being built today by Garage builders looks more steam punk then anything else. Just my observation not a criticism.

40K IS a bit of Steampunk with Cyberpunk bits and fantasy chunks in it...

In a universe where steam powered tanks and machines can coexiste with nuclear and fusion cores engines, next to Sacred/Unholy Altars, you find those "steampunk" looking stuffs out of place?...:wtf: