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sSammer
29-05-2010, 00:32
So I really don't like the current 7th ed state troops for the empire (its simply personal opinion). I've been looking to get into empire for a long time now, I love their detachment system and the variety in the army is wonderful. Unfortunately finding and adequate and somewhat effective conversion method for loads of state troops is really hard.

If anyone knows of a place where I could perhaps purchase 6th ed state troops, especially handgunners, I would love to know. Alternatively, if you know of 28mm troops from a company other than games workshop that would serve as good replacements, that would be much welcome too.

I'm not all that opposed to converting the existing state troop models themselves, the only problem is that the tight pants are utterly dissuading to me.

Thanks for all comments and advice :)

Skywave
29-05-2010, 00:55
Had the same concerns when I started my Empire a while ago. After getting some new set like States Troops/Handgunner, I just had to get the 6th edition model instead. I don't like the design they have, the detail quality is poor, and the guns are frickin huge!

I think your best bet would be ebay, and wait for good deals to pop up. I did that and got some sweet deal and a good number of 6th edition models, especially Spearmen and Handgunner from the starter set!

If you want models from other companies, it will be mostly metal an more expensive, like Gamezone (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/) for exemple.

One plastic set I could recommand for State Troops is the War of the Roses box from Perry Miniatures (http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html). You can get maybe 20 halbardiers from 1 box with minimum conversion (like replacing spears tips with halberds blades). The box contain 40 models but have more bows that halberds. But maybe use GW arms on them for more fighty troops. Same price as a GW box, but with 4 time more bodies :)

sSammer
29-05-2010, 01:04
Thanks for the help. I saw some sculpts of unreleased hand gunners here: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222729&

Any chance of these ever being released?

sulla
29-05-2010, 04:54
Sounds like a good idea to me. Especially since halberdiers and archers will be pretty useful in 8th edition. I think halberdiers will become the unit of choice if stepping up, the horde rules and the stubborn rumours are correct. The extra strength will be more valuable than the extra attacks of spears or militiaor the saves of swordsmen I think.

Griefbringer
29-05-2010, 08:17
If you want models from other companies, it will be mostly metal an more expensive, like Gamezone (http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/) for exemple.

Actually, if you go for historical ranges, the metals can actually be slightly cheaper per model than GW plastics. One magic word to look for is Landsknecht.

For example, here is a new range from Artizan:

http://www.artizandesigns.com/list.php?man=20&page=1

Wargames Foundry also has an extensive range, though they are a bit pricy (you can work around the postage costs by ordering them through Caliver Books):

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/CUT/index2.asp

Or for more southern European look, here are a few nice ranges from TAG:

http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=120
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=122
http://www.theassaultgroup.co.uk/store/home.php?cat=124