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Melchor
24-02-2006, 23:02
It has been a while since I posted any pictures of my work, but I've been quite busy with 'reality' lately. ;)

After reading the Deathwing Tactica, I deceided I had to have a Librarian. As the metal one looks a bit out of place with the new terminators, I deceided to build one myself.

Current status:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP2.jpg

What do you think? Needs more bling? Needs more wires? Tell me! :)

Sandlemad
24-02-2006, 23:08
Not necessarily more bling but more librarial ornamentation. A horned skull here or there and some swirly doo-dads.
And more wires. Probably leading to the sword.
Good stuff so far. That's one of the better scratch psychic hoods I've seen.

Melchor
24-02-2006, 23:09
Thanks!

Credit for the 'hood' goes to Heero-Severus though. ;)

Gen_eV
24-02-2006, 23:59
Looking good so far - I like the use of the Emperor's Champion sword, nice and big for a termy. Where's the shield from btw? It's making me think of the front of a sentinel, but I'm sure I must be wrong. Unless it's all you had left after another conversion.

Heero-Severus
25-02-2006, 00:47
Nice work melchor!

The only thing i could suggest is tidying up the hood, rounding the edges, and evening out the angles. Other than that ... i like it ALOT :D

(oh and thanx for the credit, which i should pass onto gw-us website)

Grimtuff
25-02-2006, 01:06
(oh and thanx for the credit, which i should pass onto gw-us website)

Which then they should pass onto Tom Schadle (AKA Commander Y) ;)

Nice fig BTW!

Gamgee
25-02-2006, 08:24
Nice, but I would like more bling and a dress, I mean robes! I think a high elf archer cape would make a perfect loincloth. (I've used that on my WIP terminator librarian). The horned skull from the skeleton regiment would make a very nice decoration, along with more imperial dangly things from terminator or command sprues!

greets,

Gamgee

EmperorsChamp01
25-02-2006, 09:09
Definitly more wires. THere can never be to many wires on a librarian. lol well he looks really kool just wish you would have used the Yelling head so it would be like he is smiting the Foes of the Emperor!

Darkseer
25-02-2006, 09:14
That is really nice.

You make the Deathwing proud *wipes away a tear*

philbrad2
25-02-2006, 10:26
Nice & simple. Love the use of the EC's sword on a Librarian.

I agree with the comments for a bit more ornamentation. Major gripe is the shoulderpad psychic hood it looks way to thick, looks like his head has been briched into his armour. Perhaps a plasticard rim on the metal shoulderpad ar, looks a bit out of balance with the larger plastic ahoulderpad and arm.

Jansen
25-02-2006, 15:37
Aarr.. No!

Read the Shoulderpad-inscription: "Imperator Deus". The DA see the emperor as a man, not as a god.. I've seen this many times.. Ok, never mind, just a small thing.

Looks pretyy cool otherwise :)

Melchor
27-02-2006, 23:01
Zeikerd... ;)

Update time! Not painted yet though. Sorry for that, been a little busy lately.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP4.jpg

What do you think?

For painting I'm torn between Ultramarine Blue with Bone details (ie. Shoulder pads), or Bone with Ultramarine details. Suggestions?

Velkyn Kyil
28-02-2006, 11:19
I would like to see a loincloth on him. Nothing says "magician" more than some flowing cloth.

green hell
28-02-2006, 14:39
How did you make the Psychic hood? It's fabulous!

Animerik
28-02-2006, 14:47
I would like a robe and books, seals, horned skull and a igger shield (this if it was mine) thats my opinion

Anvils Hammer
28-02-2006, 14:56
Its very nice, but it does need a robe of some kind.

Melchor
28-02-2006, 17:13
@green hell: The psychic hood is a shoulder pad (as I mentioned earlier) and it was a real pain to get right. :D

The robe/loincloth suggestion seems quite popular by the way. I remember seeing a great tutoral for loincloths somewhere on this forum. I'll look it up and get back to you. ;)

Gamgee
01-03-2006, 09:46
For loincloth i'd lie to pimp the high elf archer cloak once more ;) The improvements look great by the way!

Greets,

Gamgee

major_panic
02-03-2006, 06:12
Is this (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20290&highlight=hanging+loincloth+tutorial) the tutorial you were looking for?

The librarian looks good, although I must agree that you add more librarian-y things onto him... perhaps sculpt a book onto his shield or shoulderpad?

Cheers, major_panic

Melchor
02-03-2006, 17:26
Yup, that's the one I was refering to. :)

I worked on the loincloth yesterday. It's not quite finished, but I'm already quite pleased with the result.

The shield is going to have a DA symbol on it by the way, so no books there. I think I'll add some scroll cases and perhaps a bit of chain around the waist with an icon hanging from it.

I'll keep you updated.

immortal99
02-03-2006, 18:20
At the moment it just doesn't look like a librarian, with that cloth you will make a sergeant a librarian! :wtf: Its just one thing you come to associate them with. It would have looked more like a librarian with a book and globe thing on a stick. It looks cool, just not all that librarianish. Loincloths work wonders.

Melchor
02-03-2006, 18:37
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP5.jpg

Is that better? :D

major_panic
03-03-2006, 09:02
Quite a lot better!

If you don't mind some probably dodgy advice, I'd recommend that you put in a little triangle of GS just over where the loincloth covers the groinal area, then make some folds in it.

Then, a couple of small sausages down the length of the loincloth, again pressed to make folds, and you should be set.

Alternatively, you could make little scrollcase things like what some Librarians have and attach them to the loincloth.

Oh, and could I suggest putting a couple of round bits of GS to represent gems or fasteners where the loincloth is attached to the armour?

I just realised that my tutorial doesn't work as well for Terminator models as it does for power armour models... I know it's not as easy as it looks, but you've done a fine job!

Keep up the good work! Cheers, major_panic

PS. I demand a book on him somewhere! :D

Melchor
03-03-2006, 14:59
Thanks for the tips/comments major_panic!
However, bofore I read your post I already did the following:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP7.jpg

Anvils Hammer
03-03-2006, 15:05
looks much better, good job all round!

where did you get the chain?

Melchor
03-03-2006, 15:15
Thanks Anvils Hammer! Is it just me or did your name suddenly become capitalised? ;)

The chains are from my friendly neigborhood model shop. It's sold as anchor chain for model ships.

Anvils Hammer
03-03-2006, 15:43
Thanks Anvils Hammer! Is it just me or did your name suddenly become capitalised? ;)


I just woke up the other day with a supreme sense of self importance :p

immortal99
03-03-2006, 20:40
Brilliant! Sereously, the moment saw it my mind immeadiatly registered it as a libby! Lovely job by the way! I really like everything about the model.

I am learning to touch type as I write this, I have found I have quite a good grasp of where the keys are.

Grand Master Belial
03-03-2006, 23:06
Looking great! Let's see it in paint!

Jericho
04-03-2006, 01:36
Looks really nice man :) I'm not a huge fan of that particular chestplate personally, if I could I would have every one with the aquilla proudly emblazoned on his chest. Anyway I'm kinda surprised there's no book anywhere on the model. It's relatively easy to sculpt that supercool book with a sword through it like you see on so many librarians.

I'll show you how I did mine (on a regular plastic shoulderpad).

1) The basic shape of the book. Simply a couple of rectangles lined up next to each other. Don't worry too much about getting it all 100% perfect. Once it's totally cured you can clean it up with very careful Xacto knife cuts to get 90 degree angles and whatnot.

2) The next day you can add the basic shape of the sword. The top half was pretty simple. A flat rectangular section that was narrower at the top. I notched the narrow section once or twice to look more like a real sword grip. The bottom half was just a tiny point really, sticking out from behind the book. Obviously this sword has to be done thinner than the book to look right :D

3) The third day I put a little blob of greenstuff on the center of the book, and made a solid rectangle that had a uniform border of the book backing showing through on all sides. Then a quick depression in the middle and it's done.

4) The only really fiddly part was the tiny crosspiece thingy on the hilt. Teensie bits of greenstuff don't stick to anything very well so it can be a pain in the butt trying to get it in place. No big deal though.

Anyway it wasn't terribly difficult, just time consuming. If you don't do complex greenstuff work in layering it can end in disaster. One slipup can mess up every bit of work so far, and makes Xacto knife touchups way harder. The only thing I wish I did a bit better was making sure the pages of the book had crisp flat edges, they got a bit out of shape when you press in the crease in the middle.

Orcdom
04-03-2006, 02:33
you can make an open book from the double pouch bit on the space marine tac squad sprue, just turn it over and shave the ends to look like pages and book cover.

Steve

Melchor
04-03-2006, 19:46
Nice sculpt Jericho!

I could also make a GS-cast from the Grey Knight shoulder pad I have lying around. :D

The question is, where to add it? I might try to make a little closed book and hang it from his belt. I'll keep you updated.

Scorpio
04-03-2006, 20:28
looks awesome better then i could do. I would very much like to see it in paint.

-Scorpio

tzeentchgiant
05-03-2006, 16:42
Very cool, I love the tabbard - very good standard on it, but I haven't seen you around about the painting support group in a while, I'd love to see these minis up there too :).

TG

Melchor
06-03-2006, 09:29
You're right about that TG. It might be helpful. And seeing I've got me another tournament season cming up, it might be a good idea. ;)

Melchor
11-03-2006, 00:23
Update time!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarianWIP9.jpg

Still WIP, but I'm working on it. ;)

And here's a little extra for keeping you waiting. ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingObjectiveMarker.jpg

tzeentchgiant
11-03-2006, 00:26
Love that base, and the blue is working out fantastically :).

Very cool.

TG

Sigma
11-03-2006, 00:30
Whoa, I really, REALLY love the base!
Not to mention the Librarian itself, of course;)
Awesome work....

Melchor
11-03-2006, 00:31
The base is going to be my objective marker by the way. Though I might do something similar to this one for my dreadnoughts.

thanks guys!

immortal99
11-03-2006, 07:30
looking great so far, I really like that style of painting. It makes the blue look almost weathered. Very cool, keep up the good work!

Melchor
14-03-2006, 22:56
*RESURRECT*

And he's done, can't get 'proper' pictures of him though but you guys get the idea. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarian1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarian3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/DeathwingLibrarian2.jpg

C&C welcome as usual.

warsmith si
14-03-2006, 23:20
Looks wicked mate :evilgrin:

I've just finished painting up the old librarian terminator for Deathwing......but he looks nowhere near as good as yours.........:cries:

tzeentchgiant
14-03-2006, 23:21
Sweet, a part from the shield though, IMO it throws off the scheme, making it look a bit patchwork.

Sorry to be harsh :(.

TG

Melchor
14-03-2006, 23:23
@TG: It's ok to criticise, it's what I asked for! ;) What would you have done with the shield?

EDIT: explanation for the 'off' colour of the shield. All my Deathwing Terminators have their weapon casings painted DA green. Since the Libby didn't have a weapon aside from his Force Sword (relying on FotA for ranged attacks) I deceided to paint his shield that colour to tie him in with the rest of the force.

Darkseer
14-03-2006, 23:45
That is ace :)

tzeentchgiant
14-03-2006, 23:55
Hmm, I was thinking just paint it blue :p, but for the fluffy reasons I suppose it's fine - maybe clean up the highlighting on it a little though :p.

TG

AventineCrusader
15-03-2006, 00:28
Good to see it all the way done. Nice job on the conversion, too. Are you doing anything else on the base?

Crusader:D

Melchor
15-03-2006, 11:26
The base is going to be the same as the rest of my army, with plasticard tiles, sand and static flock.

Like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%2040k/Deathwing/TermieBase.jpg)one.