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jdunn
07-07-2010, 21:55
Ok, so as I'm flipping through my Vanilla Marines codex, i come upon the story of the "necron World Engine". this sounds suspiciously like the Death star.

Anyways, the real reason i started this is to ask, does anyone have any idea where i could find out mroe about the world engine, and whether or not the necrons have more of them?

Lord Damocles
07-07-2010, 23:09
Almost everything on the World Engine is in Codex: Space Marines.

There are a couple of tiny references to the incident elsewhere:
Codex: Blood Angels - they suggested the monument on Safehold (pg.16)
Rulebook (5th ed.) - timeline section notes loss of v=contact with worlds in Vidar sector (pg.128)

Hellforged contains what may be World Engines - three of them! Although thanks to Counter's less than amazing descriptions, it's not entirely clear exactly what the contacts are (pg.93).


EDIT: Here's an old thread on the topic, although you'll do well to learn much about the World Engine from it...
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173208&highlight=world+engine

The Inevitable One
08-07-2010, 02:27
The Astral Knights Space Marine Chapter encountered the/a Necron World Engine and were able to destroy it. The Chapter boarded the World Engine and started to destroy flux generators, weapon forges and command nodes. Then they destroyed the sheilds so that the Imperial Navy fire cyclonic torpedoes at it. Unfortunately only the Chapter Master and five Battle Brothers survived, and it is now concluded that the Chapter is wiped out.

I think it is in the 5th Edition Rulebook as Lord Damocles said.

Hellebore
08-07-2010, 03:11
That would be the story of how a dreadnought stood against the advancing hordes of specialist anti tank weaponry weilding undead robots and held them off without a scratch until it decided to blow up with the force of a nuke?

Hellebore

Lord Damocles
08-07-2010, 09:15
I think it is in the 5th Edition Rulebook as Lord Damocles said.
The bulk of the World Engine story is in Codex: Space Marines (5th ed.). jdunn even said so in his post up there ^



The story in the 5th ed. Rulebook is the first part of the fall of Damnos (the second part being in Codex: Space Marines (5th ed.); featuring the amazing Ultramarine Dreadnought Agrippan).

Jonny_N
08-07-2010, 09:37
That would be the story of how a dreadnought stood against the advancing hordes of specialist anti tank weaponry weilding undead robots and held them off without a scratch until it decided to blow up with the force of a nuke?

Hellebore

Matt Ward been here has he? ;)

Lord Damocles
08-07-2010, 09:44
Mat ward: In your codex, killing all your fluff :(

Corax
08-07-2010, 10:40
That would be the story of how a dreadnought stood against the advancing hordes of specialist anti tank weaponry weilding undead robots and held them off without a scratch until it decided to blow up with the force of a nuke?

I believe he used two Wraiths tied together by the tail as nunchucks and unleashed some righteous Dreadnought-fu moves (before self-destructing). :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (One :rolleyes: just isn't enough to express the sarcasm of this post)

Jonny_N
08-07-2010, 12:24
I believe he used two Wraiths tied together by the tail as nunchucks and unleashed some righteous Dreadnought-fu moves (before self-destructing). :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (One :rolleyes: just isn't enough to express the sarcasm of this post)

Venerable Brother: Ancient Norris

Farseer Dave
08-07-2010, 12:31
Matt Ward been here has he? ;)

Theres an easy formula to find out of Matt ward wrote it , goes something like this,

(Random Special Character)+(Terribly written piece of Fluff) = Dead Avatar

Farseer Dave.

The Inevitable One
08-07-2010, 14:35
The bulk of the World Engine story is in Codex: Space Marines (5th ed.). jdunn even said so in his post up there ^



The story in the 5th ed. Rulebook is the first part of the fall of Damnos (the second part being in Codex: Space Marines (5th ed.); featuring the amazing Ultramarine Dreadnought Agrippan).

Oh, sorry.

Dakkagor
08-07-2010, 14:57
I found Agrippans story completely believable, but then again my regular necron player hasn't rolled a flayed result on a vehicle since the codex came out.

MarshallSam
09-07-2010, 00:09
Unfortunately only the Chapter Master and five Battle Brothers survived,

Are you sure about that:eyebrows:? I thought I made that up and used it in my own DIY Chapter:evilgrin:.

Linky (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258716)

thatkid358
09-07-2010, 00:47
I did some searching on lexicanum and it said the Aurora chapter sent elements of their chapter to fight the necron world engine

however on heresy online someone said something about the battle the astral knights had with the necron world engine include 15 space marine strike forces with the astral knights sending the largest strike force.

so it could have been the same battle

Son of Sanguinius
09-07-2010, 04:36
Mat ward: In your codex, killing all your fluff :(

My vote for quote of the day.

Speculation: I would assume that the world engines are meant for planet destruction (how original!) and mobile tomb worlds, but their size makes them difficult to conceal and craft, so there are not many.

Hellebore
09-07-2010, 06:29
Given that aerodynamics are unimportant in space, I wouldn't be surprised if every tomb complex has an inertialess drive in it allowing it to fly around if it chose to.

Thus every tombworld could be a world engine...

Hellebore

Son of Sanguinius
09-07-2010, 06:35
Capable of over-powering the gravity of the local stars?

Stonerhino
09-07-2010, 10:06
Capable of over-powering the gravity of the local stars?
It depends on how the inertialess drives work. One school of thought believes that it's like a Alcubierre Drive. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive) If this is the case then moving a world would be a little difficult. But if the inertialess drives work by creating a field that reduces the mass of everything to zero. Then with a field big enough you could easily move a planet. If you are trying to figure the gravitational pull between two bodies and one has a mass of zero then the end result is zero. G*M*0/R squared=0 everytime and no mater what numbers you punch in for M and R.

So it may be possible for the Necrons to move planets at their will. All they need is drives strong enough and what's even crazier is if their drives are the mass=zero ones. They can move planets FTL.

A little disclaimer: Anyone with drives powerful enough can move a planet. The problem is being able to control the planet's "Flight" without runningnout of energy.

Lord Damocles
09-07-2010, 15:20
I did some searching on lexicanum and it said the Aurora chapter sent elements of their chapter to fight the necron world engine

however on heresy online someone said something about the battle the astral knights had with the necron world engine include 15 space marine strike forces with the astral knights sending the largest strike force.

so it could have been the same battle
It would have to be the same battle, since there's only been one confirmed record of the Imperium taking on a World Engine.



Imperial forces known to have been deployed against the World Engine:
- Vidar Sector Fleet (losses at over one third - 'millions of casualties')
- Ulramarines Strike Force
- Invaders Strike Force (two full Terminator squads lost)
- Aurora Chapter Strike Force
- Astral Knights Strike Force (no survivors - 772 Marines lost. Battle Barge Tempestus wrecked)
- Blood Angels Strike Force (2nd and 4th Companies)
- Ten other Space Marine Strike Forces (Chapters and numbers unknown)

(Codex: Space Marines, pgs.44-5; Codex: Blood Angels, pg.16)

Kage2020
09-07-2010, 15:40
Given that aerodynamics are unimportant in space...
Doesn't that depend on where you are, how fast you're going, and the nature of your propulsion system? :D

Kage