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Raellos
14-07-2010, 04:58
I was reading Dave Taylor's radtastic blog, and he mentioned the AT-83 Brigand, which I don't recall. Which got me thinking that I don't really remember much of the traitor armour at all.

So, what Chaos tanks and armoured vehicles are present in Dan Abnett's books?

gitburna
14-07-2010, 08:51
Never read any (of the gaunts ghost books) but the classic one you tend to hear about is the "stalk tank" which I believe is like a cross between a defiler and a sentinel

metal bawks
14-07-2010, 08:58
STeG 4 (I think it's an armoured car)
AT-70 Reaver (medium tank)
AT-83 Brigand (heavy tank)
n20 & n22 pattern half tracks
Usurper SPG

There's some big insect-like walkers too. Probably Daemon Engines.
They also have the occasional Baneblade.

Tonberry
14-07-2010, 09:14
There's also stalk tanks with psykers in little pods. I don't remember what effect they had but it's a cool idea.

Sikkukkut
14-07-2010, 11:06
Asphodel builds several specialised engines for the siege of Vervunhive in Necropolis. There are the flat-crabs, which from memory had thick armoured backs to move up to the Hive's outer fortifications while under fire; can't remember much else about them and I don't have my book here, but they were pretty big. There were some mantis-like things which came at the wall, reared up and used guns and flamers in their "arms" to sweep the top of the wall clear (the lower edge of the Hive's void shield being a bit ragged from all the punishment it was taking), then grabbing onto the parapet and locking themselves into place to provide an armoured stair for Zoican infantry to storm the wall.

Then of course there's Asphodel's command vehicle, the Spike, a big battle fortress that rumbled along on treads with some sort of monster kiss-your-city-block-goodbye plasma cannon on the front.

Oh, and those huge mobile airfields in Double Eagle. I can't remember if they rolled or had lots of mechanical legs under them.

RCgothic
14-07-2010, 11:12
In His Last Command there are some stumble-guns I think they're called? The spherical things with the plasma projectors.

x-esiv-4c
14-07-2010, 11:15
Stumbleguns were awesome!

Dragunov09
14-07-2010, 12:15
Man, I don't recall half of these!

Seems it's time to reread the Ghost books then...shame ;)

Sai-Lauren
14-07-2010, 13:04
Dear Forge World,

Can we have Imperial Armour: The Sabbat Worlds Crusade please?
...

Anyway, there's also Imperial vehicles like the outrider bikes and trucks of Bragg's story in Ghostmaker.

Plus the non-military vehicles - the ferry and Subway trains in Necropolis, the train in Straight Silver, Gaunt's staff car and the borrowed ambulance in Blood Pact...

x-esiv-4c
14-07-2010, 15:22
Sai, that would be awesome!

Mannimarco
14-07-2010, 15:41
They make even half of that and I guarantee I will personally put every member of the teams kids through college with my purchases alone

Dragunov09
14-07-2010, 16:17
Oh man, now that would be the best IA book ever...

Tonberry
14-07-2010, 18:19
D'oh, can't believe I forgot the epic stumble guns. There's nothing more chaos than zorbs with cannons.

Twisted Heretic
15-07-2010, 00:41
There were also the Locust-pattern interceptors in Sabbat Martyr and Double Eagle.

Not to mention more previously-unmentioned Imperial equipment like the Magog (heavy bomber, more primitive than the Marauder) Cyclone (PDF turboprop aircraft) Wolfcub (primitive jet fighter) Drogue (kilometer-long zeppelin used as a transport and command center in Guns of Tanith) and Destrier (heavy lifter, essentially a Valk on steroids).

Anyhow, the AT70 and AT83 were produced on the Chaos-controlled Forge World of Urdesh. Essentially a non-or-lesser-STC answer to the Leman Russ. The AT70 was described as an inferior design, less armor, and lacking the targeters and stabilization of the LR's main gun. The AT83 made up for those shortcomings by the simple expedient of having heavier armor, and a much much bigger gun than its little brother. The StuGs were armored cars, usually mounting some sort of autocannon. The Usurpers mounted fixed artillery shoehorned into a tank-hunting role.

The famous Stalk-Tanks were servitor-controlled walkers, usually mantid in appearance, usually with a multi-laser or automatic solid-slug weapon. The psyker-varient was used as a mobile comm-jammer in Sabbat Martyr.

Tonberry
15-07-2010, 07:30
I also just remembered the possessed/bestial Predator in the one where Gaunt lops off Larkin's foot.

Sai-Lauren
15-07-2010, 08:10
To be honest, I'm surprised GW's not made more of the Sabbat Worlds setting - aside from the novels and the upcoming short stories compilation, there's only been one other book (the Tactica one co-written by DA), and don't get me started on the half-***** way they dealt with the Tanith themselves. :mad:

Oh, wait a second, it doesn't feature Marines that heavily - that'll be why they can't be bothered. :rolleyes:

Tonberry
15-07-2010, 11:10
To be honest, I'm surprised GW's not made more of the Sabbat Worlds setting - aside from the novels and the upcoming short stories compilation, there's only been one other book (the Tactica one co-written by DA), and don't get me started on the half-***** way they dealt with the Tanith themselves. :mad:

Oh, wait a second, it doesn't feature Marines that heavily - that'll be why they can't be bothered. :rolleyes:


Yeah, a really wasted oportunity considering the fan base and the potential. There really is enough stuff to make a whole codex out of the Tanith imo, with the Belladon, Verghast + Pardus for tanks, as well as a million unique characters and special equipment etc.

We can dream :(

malika
15-07-2010, 12:29
Weren't there some Space Marines involved during the Sabbat Wars?

# Iron Snakes
# Raven Guard
# Silver Guard
# White Scars

Sai-Lauren
15-07-2010, 12:53
Iron Snakes - was their novel a Sabbat worlds one, or a 40k era one?
If the latter, they're only mentioned in the end of Necropolis - think the White Scars operate alongside them then as well.

Silver Guard - mentioned in Blood Pact for the reconquest of Balhaut, not actually seen.

Marine chapters are certainly active in the campaign, but they're not the focus of the stories.

malika
15-07-2010, 14:03
That doesn;t really matter. It was more meant as an excuse to get the Sabbat Wars made into a FW set. If they so badly need Space Marines in there because they would otherwise be scared that the campaign wouldnt sell, they could include the above mentioned Chapters in one way or the other...

mightymconeshot
15-07-2010, 14:26
There are also the super seige chaos tanks.
The flat Crab which had a gaint rapid firing bunker busting. I think it was huge like 20 normal tanks wide. It was designed to bring down walls.
Then there were the spider ones which some how had tracks segmented to pull them up walls when they hit them. I dont know what their guns where but i would assume several leman russ or at least a baneblades weapons. I dont have the size but also another huge tank.
Then there is the spike which is a small spacecraft in a pyramid shape.

There was the stumble guns which is a round ball the rider loooked down a thin slit and randomly spewed plasma out of a whole bunch of bumps.
And i dont know if it was metioned as i dont remeber the name but it was the light tank had basically a autocannon but was fast.

Sikkukkut you are describing the super carriers. They are half a km wide i think with an equal amount wide and it is basically a gigantic mobile aircraft carrier on land. It would be an awesome to do a kill team style thing on them.

And the magogs always struck me as being b52s.

Alot of these are repeated so I am using my own knowledge and repeating what others have posted.

StormWulfen
15-07-2010, 22:30
I also just remembered the possessed/bestial Predator

Was it a Predator? I thought it was just another AT-70 or something that got possessed

Tonberry
16-07-2010, 08:04
Was it a Predator? I thought it was just another AT-70 or something that got possessed

I just re-read it and you're right, it wasn't a predator. I guess I read possessed tank and my mind makes a jump assuming it's astartes for some reason :shifty:

The only actual description is that it has a turret cannon and a hull mounted autocannon, which sounds like an inferior pattern Russ, which is exactly what the blood pact tanks are supposed to be: cheap Urdeshi variants.

RCgothic
16-07-2010, 08:13
Was it a Predator? I thought it was just another AT-70 or something that got possessed

Weird. I also envisioned a Predator when reading that segment.

The Judge
16-07-2010, 08:42
Referring back to the Marines in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade, I believe Brother of the Snake is set uite a bit after the Crusade, as one of the famour victories they toast to in BotS is a battle detailed in the Sabbat World Crusade Sourcebook. Ambold Eleven, I believe...