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Kiras of the flame
29-08-2010, 15:37
as the title says which would you preffer?

An Arch Lector on a War Altar?

or a Wizard Lord?

Dark Aly
29-08-2010, 15:42
I never used a war alter so my preference would be the wizard. Although i am thinking of an arch lector on foot and a level 4 wizard in 2K.

Korraz
29-08-2010, 15:50
Depends on the army composition.

KaldCB
29-08-2010, 17:03
Both!

The arch lector for ld9 and 2 dispel dice, and a wizard lord to suppoert with magic

Leogun_91
29-08-2010, 17:36
Wizard Lord, but that's only because I have a sweet model for one.

Gaargod
29-08-2010, 19:08
Both with no War Altar (because they need magic gear to be effective).

As KaldCB said, LD9 + 2 DD and +4 to dispel is fairly ncessary.

Novrain
29-08-2010, 19:18
As above both but no war altar! :D

Proctorkorps
29-08-2010, 19:22
why no war altar? doesn't it make him large target, which makes his ld bubble bigger, it's a chariot (the only one in the army) so it gives him impact hits, he's more maneuverable... the only downside is the pointage? is it that bad?

NightAngel
29-08-2010, 19:25
A poll would be helpful.

EDIT -Also shouldn’t this be in tactics?

Stumpy
30-08-2010, 00:12
Well I run both, but that's just me. If I had to choose: arch lector.

Rodman49
30-08-2010, 00:45
I mean, if you play 2500.

Dual Lector and Wizard Lord right? Seems obvious to me.

freddieyu
30-08-2010, 01:30
Both!

The arch lector for ld9 and 2 dispel dice, and a wizard lord to suppoert with magic

I second this:)

My preference however is to have 2 AL, and a level 2 wizard..1 AL to be on the war altar tag teaming with the Stank, the other to be the general (with the crown of command) in the middle of my blocks of state troops...

decker_cky
30-08-2010, 05:12
Both. +2 DD and +4 on dispel rolls makes it really tough to play against, combined with Ld9 and good combat abilities for the lector and great casting on a top lore with the wizard lord. Those two should be the first character choices you fit into any 2000+ pt games.

Kiras of the flame
30-08-2010, 06:51
A poll would be helpful.

EDIT -Also shouldn’t this be in tactics?

to answer both...

I don't know how

It sounds more like a personal choice than a tactic... Both are good choices and I'm wondering what people prefer... not what's a better option...

Leogun_91
30-08-2010, 07:06
Ah....then wizard lord all the way, it has great modelling oppurtunities and more variation IMHO.

Lord of Divine Slaughter
30-08-2010, 08:53
Both. +2 DD and +4 on dispel rolls makes it really tough to play against, combined with Ld9 and good combat abilities for the lector and great casting on a top lore with the wizard lord. Those two should be the first character choices you fit into any 2000+ pt games.

Not worth it. You waste the spell casting potential of Lector/Alter and warrior priests, a single lvl 2 will add a little variation and a good place to stick your PD/DD battery staff.

Also with the change to RiP spells, priests and popes have gotten a subtle boost in this edition. If you're not careful, an empire army will suddenly have 4+ ward characters and unbreakable tar pits everywhere, those little 3+ bound spells can really put a drain on your opponents dice or he'll regret it.

Empire magic is quite powerful, if you take a subtle approach, but going overboard will yield nothing out of the ordinairy

yabbadabba
30-08-2010, 09:00
As my lvl 2 blew up himslef and half his unit in my first magic phase the other day, boat is still out for me.

Novrain
30-08-2010, 09:03
No waraltar a) because I dont own one! b) I play Middenheim so would have to scrathbuild somthing c) becuse I usually cannot fit a lvl4 w/kit PLUS an arch lector with kit PLUS the waraltar

The waraltar is the first thing to go when points get short

Odominus
30-08-2010, 09:45
In 3000pt list I run:

Al (walter) + 2 WP + lv4 mage + lv2 mage with rod of power.

Pretty much guarantees you can at least hold your own in each magic phase.

stwess
30-08-2010, 13:13
If you're not careful, an empire army will suddenly have 4+ ward characters and unbreakable tar pits everywhere, those little 3+ bound spells can really put a drain on your opponents dice or he'll regret it.

4+ but ye, it's nice for getting rid of a few DD or forcing them to use PD in their own magic phase. Though with any high level wizard in your army I'd be hesitant to use more than 1 PD on a prayer, which makes them really easy to dispell. Especially if your opponent is also running a high level caster.

Valek
30-08-2010, 14:01
BOTH, friend of mine uses both in a 2K game, they are the glue to keep his list together.

Combination of Light and a Lvl 4 life mage is quite effective.

The dude on the war altar with van Horstmans is also quite good at holding up units..., Challenge, unbreakable, can cost crucial turns for a unit.
The Lvl 4 does not need any gear. Keep him cheap. Make sure that you intercept attempts to kill him.

CommonPirate
31-08-2010, 00:29
Heyo,

I use both in just about every list I've made.

I never use the War Altar though, as I prefer the Arch Lector to be on foot with my unit of Greatswords or mob of Halberdiers to soak up nasty challenges with Van Horstmans.

The Level 4 always takes the Lore of Light, and the Rod. Light is just an amazing compliment to our troops. WS10, I10, Always strikes first, +1 attack, auto-rallying bubble, and a -1 to hit with ranged/close combat attacks makes our State Troops into elite heavy hitters.

Napoleon Blownapart
31-08-2010, 11:59
Both, definitely both

fubukii
31-08-2010, 19:21
Both with no War Altar (because they need magic gear to be effective).

As KaldCB said, LD9 + 2 DD and +4 to dispel is fairly ncessary.

thread over right here everyone can go home!

ld9 2dd and +4 to dispel and cast gg.