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Valek
01-09-2010, 08:47
Points have going up on most tournaments in the area to 2200 points.

So i started building again with what i wanted in mind and came to the following, i still have 141 points left so any thought what i could or might add to the list.

Please do not suggest blocks, as i hate getting templated to death, the idea is to play with the speed of the Dark Elves, a high thread and shooty list.

so here goes:

1 Dread lord, Ha, Sdc, Sh, Co,
Black Dragon Egg
Crimson Death
Pendant of Kaleath

1 Sorceress, Lvl 2 (Dark)
Dispel Scroll
Guiding eye

1 Death Hag BSB, Cauldron


27 Crossbows, Sh, Full Command
5 Dark Riders, Rcb, Muso
5 Dark Riders, Rcb, Muso



8 Shades, ahw
8 Shades, ahw
5 Cold One Knights, Full Command
Ring of Hotek

1 Warhydra
1 Warhydra


As you can see, i have plenty of warmachine hunters, warhydra and knights to mop up and the cauldron as multiplier. The sorceress is there to keep magic at bay(hopefully) for one to two turns, untill i get in combat, dark give good utility, and the base spell is still one that is much underestimated. But was also thinking of making Sorceress Shadow and giving her tome of furion and seal of ghrond. Razor/cauldron can give some devastating results.

Guiding eye? really needed? what other options would you consider?

What to add?

Valek

knightime98
01-09-2010, 09:45
--Edit--
I just reread your post about no block troops
ah, well, if that's the case you need a heck of a lot more knights and chariots but you are limited
with specials to 50 percent.
-- End Edit --

Wow, where are you troops?
Seriously?

No, Dark Warriors?
No block of troops of any type?

I exclude the Crossbows because they are not really going to fight. They only shoot.

The last game I played with my Dark Elves at 2250 or 2500 points was something like this..
No Ring of Hotek
No ASF banner
No Dual hydras
No pendant of khalef

These are crutches...

Level 4 Supreme Sorceress with Dark Staff and ward save 4+ (NOT THE PENDANT! - call it principal or fluff but the pendant is a crutch and broken!)

BSB - Master w/ward save, and armor

40 Dark Warriors w/cmd, shields
w/ level 2 sorceress (Sacrificial Dagger)

20 Corsairs w/frenzy banner, cmd, xhw

20 Executioners w/cmd, warbanner? (I think)

10x Repeater Crossbowmen
10x Repeater Crossbowmen

5x dark riders with rptr x-bows
5x harpies
5x harpies
1x Repeater bolt thrower
1x War Hydra
1x Cold One Chariot

Anyhow, I had 100 elves fielded with supporting units!

That day, I won both the games against my opponents!

I beat down a Hellpit Abom, and crushed a unit of lothern seaguard with the Hydra (which I almost felt bad about.. however this player had it coming!)

Executioners were awesome! and so were both my Sorceress'.

In any event, you have no troops of any kind? Just a power list really..

My opinion of course.

So it seems to me..

ROCKY
01-09-2010, 10:18
i think your in deep against shooting. armys like empire and dwarves will gun down ur units before u get to combat. also u have nothing to deny ranks or remove steadfast. your units WILL get counter attacked and die and anything flaming will render the hydras useless.

tmarichards
01-09-2010, 10:42
Make your Cauldron a BSB.

Any time you have 100pts left over, take another chariot.

Shades aren't auite so good anymore unfortunately, Black Guard on the other hand are still ace and the Cauldron's 5+ ward save will protect them to a degree.

Valek
01-09-2010, 11:33
Smal error in listing, Cauldron is BSB just forgot to note it.

The Chariot would indeed be ok. And would fit the theme nicely. maybe i might search points to add 2 so i can assist hydra's with one each.

Black guard i must add, I love the models, and in CC they are absolute beasts, but if they get templated even the blessing will not help very much and you will always loose their points. I prefer the coldone knights, with blessing very tought to take out with the +1 attack they are killer, the lord added in should make a ton of casulties.

Valek
01-09-2010, 20:36
Been thinkling with list and came to this any better?

1 Dread lord, Ha, Sdc, Sh, Co,
Black Dragon Egg
Crimson Death
Pendant of Kaleath

1 Sorceress, Lvl 2 (Shadow)
Tome of Furion
Seal of Grond

1 Death Hag BSB, Cauldron


20 Crossbows, Sh, Full Command
20 Crossbows, Sh, Full Command
5 Dark Riders, Rcb, Muso
5 Dark Riders, Rcb, Muso



7 Shades, ahw
7 Shades, ahw
5 Cold One Knights, Full Command
Ring of Hotek, Banner of Eternal Flame

1 Warhydra
1 Warhydra

perfect spells for this setup on wizard should be: signature spell, the minus D3 toughness and mindrazor

Cauldron can make the warriors mean fighters with the right debuff in place.

Valek