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tinytom113
30-09-2010, 22:44
Right which is better / scarier

18 black orcs with full comand and war banner with "Armed o the teef " an no Anamosity (The only reason i want the mrealy)

Or 36 Orcy boys with choppa and sheild that do suffer anamosity (+ i do have 2 units of 28 already)

bluemage
01-10-2010, 00:46
What does the rest of your list look like? Are you lacking in high strength attacks? If so go for the black orcs. It sounds like you have enough boyz for a 2,000 point list if you back them up with some disposible night goblins. So without more information on your list I'd go with black orcs, though I don't find orcs very scary in combat.

I also think black orcs might get better in the new book, since they weren't great under 7th.

Lemonbrick
01-10-2010, 12:33
I've tried hordes of black orcs , so far they have been very underwhelming.

Orc boyz might give you more.

Memnos
01-10-2010, 12:49
18 Black Orcs is just 18 wounds desperate to die.

36 Orcs is an anvil that will take some time to grind down.

Without knowing what you intend to do with them, it's difficult to say.

Malorian
01-10-2010, 13:29
Normally I would vote black orcs over orcs, and night goblins over orcs if you are wanting them as an anvil, but the problem is that 18 black orcs just aren't enough to be effective in 8th.

Ghazbad_Facestompa
02-10-2010, 04:31
As much as I like black orcs, I agree with Malorian. 18 just melts away.

Bingo the Fun Monkey
02-10-2010, 07:39
At 2300+ point games, where you should have a couple blocks of orcs with choppa/shield already, inserting a unit of 30 Black Orcs doesn't yield as high of an opportunity cost as opposed to taking any of them below 2000 points. Here, they can truly come into their own providing relatively skilled high strength attacks with a higher element of reliability compared to the rest of your army. Additionally, those things that pose big threats (Poison Gas AoEs, Mortars, Trebuchets, Scraplaunchas, etc) should already have counters present in your list.

kroq'gar
02-10-2010, 08:39
I know i'd rather face the blackorcs- less, and using gw/s they are not that tough (same as an or with a shield)

Two choppas lost their scariness as charging doesnt let you strike first.

Alternatively a large orc block with character support is quite... scary. Put a b/orc in there, he'll stop the quabbling

tinytom113
02-10-2010, 16:39
more boys it is i have 2 large units of 28 already but a 3rd made up of 2 Orcy boy boxes

if i have 36 (6x6 ) with 2 spare models to fill in my other units (coz mounted characters filled a hole which has now appeared in both not they are both going on foot.)

I said 18 coz thants 2 boxes of black orks and 2 spare to convert a warboss on foot and BSB on foot (Both are on boars and hat will suck big in 8th?)
ALSO THEY DON'T HAVE ANAMOSITY!


I'll just take my BSB od the boar at he waste and stick him on legs, then get a nice Black orc Warboss any suggestions. i was thinking:

Black Orc warboss
Heavy Armour
Martog's Best Basha
Warboss Umm's Best Boss 'at
Sheild

Total (199)

P.S thats a total of = 94 boys :D .................. i gotta pain 38 more :(

kroq'gar
03-10-2010, 20:46
Go the boyz... and add some more armour to your boss (even just an ench shield)

Da GoBBo
06-10-2010, 10:06
Even though you allready have 2 big blocks (very wise) I would still vote Orc Boy units, but smaller. 18 Orcs with 2 choppa's cost 126 pts. Spam the field with that. You could go 24 if ye plan on taking the Idol of Mork.

Jazzaar
06-10-2010, 19:15
Big fan of black orcs

tinytom113
09-10-2010, 23:53
this renders my question pointless but hows about a large unit of NG spears intead... i plan to have 2x36 with spears and 20 with bows anyway...