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WizzyWarlock
20-10-2010, 21:34
I'm sure I read this somewhere but I can't seem to find it. Or maybe my mind was playing tricks on me!

Anywho! I wanted to know if you had fast movement, do you get the Swiftstride ability? Also, do Mv 9 get the Vanguard move? I'm not sure about that last one, but hopeful, though I'm sure I read somewhere units of movement 6+ get Swiftstride. Damned if I can find it though.

Eltharil
20-10-2010, 21:39
Maybe you'll find it in 7th edition, maybe.
Vanguard&swiftstride are only for fast cavalery; The basic movement doesn't matter anymore.

Tae
20-10-2010, 21:46
Movement has no relation on whether you get swiftstride or not - it's down to your unit type.

WizzyWarlock
20-10-2010, 21:51
Hmm. Seems a bit strange. If I upgrade my Wood Elf Highborn to an Alter Kindred he gets Movement 9. But no Swiftstride? Doesn't make much sense.

Synnister
20-10-2010, 22:37
Maybe you'll find it in 7th edition, maybe.
Vanguard&swiftstride are only for fast cavalery; The basic movement doesn't matter anymore.

Swiftstride is not a fast cavalry only rule. Multiple unit types have swiftstride. Vanguard is a fast cavalry only rule though.

Chris_
20-10-2010, 22:56
Hmm. Seems a bit strange. If I upgrade my Wood Elf Highborn to an Alter Kindred he gets Movement 9. But no Swiftstride? Doesn't make much sense.He gets no Swiftstride because he is still classed as infantry.

Swiftstride is usually tied to your troop type, Cav, Warbeasts, Monstrous Beast/Cav all get it.

Lord_Elric
20-10-2010, 23:16
Swift stride more represents their ability to accelerate quickly if needed a horse can pick up speed much faster than any human/elf the M characteristic represents the average speed a unit can travel in a given time. thats a logical reason why they shouldnt get it anyway.

WizzyWarlock
21-10-2010, 08:27
Swift stride more represents their ability to accelerate quickly if needed a horse can pick up speed much faster than any human/elf the M characteristic represents the average speed a unit can travel in a given time. thats a logical reason why they shouldnt get it anyway.
Still seems a bit silly if he can run alongside a Fast Cavalry Elven Steed without breaking a sweat. He can run as fast but not when charging or fleeing. Why? Here's hoping they errata that one.

Atrahasis
21-10-2010, 08:33
Swift stride more represents their ability to accelerate quickly if needed a horse can pick up speed much faster than any human/elfHumans reach top speed much more quickly than horses. Over short distances (100m, for example), human runners can outstrip even race horses.

Jesse Owens famously beat a horse in a 100 yard dash even after giving the horse a 20 yard head start.

Eltharil
21-10-2010, 08:35
Still seems a bit silly if he can run alongside a Fast Cavalry Elven Steed without breaking a sweat. He can run as fast but not when charging or fleeing. Why? Here's hoping they errata that one.

They will probably not change the main rule. Maybe in 9th edition.
But they could errata Alter Kindred special rule by adding swift stride to it, that would make sense to me too

Lord_Elric
21-10-2010, 10:21
Humans reach top speed much more quickly than horses. Over short distances (100m, for example), human runners can outstrip even race horses.

Jesse Owens famously beat a horse in a 100 yard dash even after giving the horse a 20 yard head start.

True but what scale do you think your battlefield is then when u have woods only covering 6 inch area hmm Warhammer isnt like 40k as each model in a unit actualy represents a number of troops if it were a real battlefield i cant see and 18inch charge being considered a "short distance"